Teleprompter? Really??

[Eugene]

I captured this image from the Melbourne EOS video...around the 00:46 second mark.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/throwroses/Teleprompter.jpg

[KarmaContestant]

No doubt she has a hard time remembering the lyrics sometimes.

Aw...Stevie's getting old. :(

[poetinmyheart]

I guess it's comforting to have it there? She may have written the lyrics but imagine a complete mind blank in front of all those people - horrifying :laugh:

[olive]

in the old days she would have to wing it and switch up or add new lyrics ... spontaneous unlike now where every show is exactly like the last the only change she makes now is to drop good songs from the set

[Kena]

I guess it's comforting to have it there? She may have written the lyrics but imagine a complete mind blank in front of all those people - horrifying :laugh:

I totally agree! It probably helps her keep her place more so than just provide her with the lyrics. Some ledgie was talking about that during the unleashed tour...about how the prompter told her to exit stage right and what not.

Crazy thing is, she still messes up the lyrics sometime. Stevie is such a human... I love it! Wonder how long she been using the prompter.

[Josh2003]

I see nothing wrong with it...it's not like she's up there clearly relying on the screens to feed her the words.

[turquoise5]

OK, I must be in the minority here, but I find it disappointing about the teleprompter....especially for the songs she's been performing for decades, you'd think those lyrics would be hardwired into her brain by now. Maybe it's a sign of damage that drugs did.

[gldstwmn]

It's pretty standard in the industry now. The first time I heard of one being used was Ozzy about 12 - 13 years ago. Now everyone seems to have them.

[diane_k]

I've noticed them at a few shows lately. When Dolly was rattling off one of her homespun Smoky Mountain stories, I turned around to look at the crowd and noticed a teleprompter...displaying the story she was telling. At their age, I can see the need for this. Even divas have their senior moments!

[DashingDan]

She sneaked many peaks at it during Soldier's Angel in Boston this summer. Don't blame her at all, that song has to be easy to lose your place in.

I've noticed them at a few shows lately. When Dolly was rattling off one of her homespun Smoky Mountain stories, I turned around to look at the crowd and noticed a teleprompter...displaying the story she was telling. At their age, I can see the need for this. Even divas have their senior moments!

[STEVEHEDRICK]

big deal we love her!

[skcin]

I don't think it's a matter of her forgetting words. She's lost her place in a song many times over the years - nothing new, lol! I see no problem with this or any reason to be upset. :shrug:

[Eugene]

Oh, I'm not upset. Bruce Springsteen has been using one since the early 90's. He isn't singing with his eyes closed. He's looking down at the teleprompter.

My point was that SN can't remember the words and stage cues for 14 songs, when we know ALL the words and stage cues.;)

[beccamorrisfift]

Oh, I'm not upset. Bruce Springsteen has been using one since the early 90's. He isn't singing with his eyes closed. He's looking down at the teleprompter.

My point was that SN can't remember the words and stage cues for 14 songs, when we know ALL the words and stage cues.;)

Ah, but the problem here is that we who know all her stage cues and lyrics are obsessed with her, I doubt she's obsessed with herself. :laugh:

[jkmaletic]

Big deal. I agree that its probably just there for comfort.

Now if she starts using Autotune....



:p

[StandbackStevie]

I think all the artists today use the teleprompters. I think its alright to have them on hand in case you mind goes blank boy do i have those days all the time.

[Hartbreakkid]

Would you rather she lip synch?

[bluefox4000]

Everybody gets older. Artists who use it have said it's more of a comfort. I'm happy She's still performing. There's NOTHING at all wrong with this:nod:

Mick

[LB Freakazoid]

Well, my 2nd husband was a singer and he would forget lyrics all the time and just make them up - singers blank out after singing the same song a gazillion times...

And there's nothing wrong with using prompter.... I'm a professional prompter chick and I would not be able pay my mortgage if singers over 50 COULD remember their lyrics and "casual" banter....

Besides, doing concerts make for a nice break from all the boring speeches I have to listen to - and intensely pay attention to - try paying attention to the importance of the coloring of the label for french fried onions for 4 hours - argh! Or getting a script that normally takes 20 minutes to format and they give you only 30 seconds before the President goes on stage....
Or listening to some race car driver thanking everyone he's ever known for 20 minutes for driving in a circle (what my last three days consisted of!). I'm not complaining... It just gets boring...

So, I say.... Please singers - use prompter more! The variety helps:)

[Syrah]

I noticed at the sf Fillmore shows she rarely looked down at it. I think it is mainly used to let her know about wardrobe changes. I thought it was cute when it read "go get your cape!" :)

[LB Freakazoid]

My favorite that I've had to put in the script... " Pause and look concerned" and "pause for effect" and... "look amused"
But it's always fun to have phonetically spell out words ... Especially for certain challenged former leaders.... "new-cleee-rrrr". :p

[iamnotafraid]

Now if she starts using Autotune....

:p


Did you listen to In Your Dreams?


I'd rather her get rid of those in-ear monitors than
the teleprompter. She can't help but fool with them
on every stinking song.

Give me the days of Elvis and Led Zeppelin and others
who didn't rely on this technology. They rocked without
it. Come to think of it, Stevie and the Mac did without it
in the 70's and much of the eighties. Possible exception
of a filmed event.

[WildHearted]

If you think In Your Dreams was auto-tuned in any way beyond just standard voice production...

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Also, I don' t have a problem with the teleprompter. Who really cares? She obviously doesn't rely on it too heavily, as she still has flubs, and she's not noticeably locked into it or anything.

[Macfanforever]

I think alot of artists have problems with the ear monitors I was watching these last award show I dont remember if it was the CMA's or the American Music awards last sunday.If I was a singer I would use a teleprompter because I will screw up the words on a tune.I agree about dumping those ear monitors.

[Nicks Fan]

I remember the opening night of the two voices tour. If you watch the bootleg DVD you can see a teleprompter during the lost song when she and Don are singing So You Wanna Be A Rock N Roll Star. I guess at her age fogetting lyrics can happen but it does seem odd that the bulk of her setlist is so tried and true that one would think she would not need help with those songs.

I was at a Melissa Etheridge Concert a few years back and my friends had seen her at one of the shows prior to this concert where they had requested a song from her 2004 album "Lucky" called "When You Find The One" in Montreal where she played it she had to consult a binder that one of her tech guys brought out with lyrics to all of her songs. I have seen her 19 times in concert and have never had that happen. She has flubbed some lines and made light of it on stage but the audience took it in stride and didn't mind.

Matt

[Hartbreakkid]

[QUOTE=Nicks Fan;1028583]I remember the opening night of the two voices tour. If you watch the bootleg DVD you can see a teleprompter during the lost song when she and Don are singing So You Wanna Be A Rock N Roll Star."

Wa-Wa-Wa-What? There's a bootleg DVD of this concert? Is it just the bad fan vids on youtube?

It was so good when they did Hotel California!

[SaidSomething]

So, she just finished a record that she wrote all the lyrics for. Without much rehearsal she played a lot of the new songs...everything happens so quickly memorizing all those songs would be a ton of rehearsal...disappearing Stevie.

I remember papers on the floor to the right of her mic since the Wild Heart tour.
:wavey:
I am so happy that her performances are less stressed, stress affects your voice and I find her more willing to free up her voice for emoting. The in ear replaces the sound system facing the stage. I think that it sucks and can hinder your performance...it so the singers can hear the harmonies of each other instead of randomly sing to blaring music.

[THINKABOUTIT]

IMO guys....it's always the fans who know the lyrics best LOL :)

[SaidSomething]

IMO guys....it's always the fans who know the lyrics best LOL :)

Especially the Night Of 1000 Stevies goers!

Also, the record just came out and some vids on youtube show a bunch of guys singing all the new songs with her on her Wiltern Birthday Show.
:blob2:

[Aussie W/Heart]

IMO guys....it's always the fans who know the lyrics best LOL :)

Well not quite true, i still stuff up the lyrics when singing along to Rhiannon, even after all these years:shrug: lol..

[WildHearted]

I can't sing 'Gold Dust Woman' in the correct order half the time. I know all the words, obviously, I just forget which ones go where...

And that's one of my all-time favorites. Come to think of it, it's my ringtone at the moment.

[vivfox]

Also, the record just came out and some vids on youtube show a bunch of guys singing all the new songs with her on her Wiltern Birthday Show.


You can thank some really awesome Ledgies for this.:woohoo:

[SaidSomething]

You can thank some really awesome Ledgies for this.:woohoo:

Hey...you guys had the first vids posted on youtube...I though wow...great sound...and you captured the edge of 17 in her...she was almost ready to burst with excitement...and that there, is the whole reason I love her, the new record...except for 1 song and I feel UnAmerican almost to even suggest...this could have been.

Thank you gust for picking up the show...but more importantly the whole vibe going on.

Thank you...:blob2:

[skuncles]

I would much rather she and anyone use a teleprompter rather than lip-synch. There's NO shame at all in using the prompter. Billy Joel used to keep a huge book on piano with all of his lyrics in it, he said it was there "just in case". Obviously he wouldn't have time to flip thru in the middle of the song, but it made him feel better (he now has the prompter down inside the piano).
I've seen Dolly Parton several times and her ENTIRE show is on the prompter including her "off the cuff" jokes (that she's been telling for 35 years!). She has said that it's really easy to lose your place in the song on stage.
Streisand has said the prompter has helped with her stage fright, she's long been afraid of forgetting the words in front of crowd (which is why she rarely tours). They made a huge deal when Sinatra started using it.
With Stevie and many others as well, there have to be songs that you just go into autopilot during. You start daydreaming and next thing you know you're lost. Don't forget Stevie has messed up the lyrics a ton of times over the years, the recording of "The Dance" had to be stopped while Stevie tried to get "Dreams" right because she forgot how it started.
Whether your on stage or the president, the prompter is only there to keep you on target, that's all.

[Nicks Fan]

[QUOTE=Nicks Fan;1028583]I remember the opening night of the two voices tour. If you watch the bootleg DVD you can see a teleprompter during the lost song when she and Don are singing So You Wanna Be A Rock N Roll Star."

Wa-Wa-Wa-What? There's a bootleg DVD of this concert? Is it just the bad fan vids on youtube?

It was so good when they did Hotel California!


Yes there was one floating around. I have a copy though at this moment I have no idea where it is LOL. Overall the quality is pretty good. The sound in Don Henley's set is not great but it isn't bad I found Stevie's set was pretty good for the sound quality.

Matt

[skcin]

I would much rather she and anyone use a teleprompter rather than lip-synch. There's NO shame at all in using the prompter. Billy Joel used to keep a huge book on piano with all of his lyrics in it, he said it was there "just in case". Obviously he wouldn't have time to flip thru in the middle of the song, but it made him feel better (he now has the prompter down inside the piano).
I've seen Dolly Parton several times and her ENTIRE show is on the prompter including her "off the cuff" jokes (that she's been telling for 35 years!). She has said that it's really easy to lose your place in the song on stage.
Streisand has said the prompter has helped with her stage fright, she's long been afraid of forgetting the words in front of crowd (which is why she rarely tours). They made a huge deal when Sinatra started using it.
With Stevie and many others as well, there have to be songs that you just go into autopilot during. You start daydreaming and next thing you know you're lost. Don't forget Stevie has messed up the lyrics a ton of times over the years, the recording of "The Dance" had to be stopped while Stevie tried to get "Dreams" right because she forgot how it started.
Whether your on stage or the president, the prompter is only there to keep you on target, that's all.

I still vividly recall seeing Stevie come in late on "dreams unwind" during Rhiannon cuz she was spinning & lost her place - Buffalo Show, Dance Tour, 11/97. You can hear it on the bootleg too! :nod:

[teedeerocks]

I would much rather she and anyone use a teleprompter rather than lip-synch. There's NO shame at all in using the prompter. Billy Joel used to keep a huge book on piano with all of his lyrics in it, he said it was there "just in case". Obviously he wouldn't have time to flip thru in the middle of the song, but it made him feel better (he now has the prompter down inside the piano).
I've seen Dolly Parton several times and her ENTIRE show is on the prompter including her "off the cuff" jokes (that she's been telling for 35 years!). She has said that it's really easy to lose your place in the song on stage.
Streisand has said the prompter has helped with her stage fright, she's long been afraid of forgetting the words in front of crowd (which is why she rarely tours). They made a huge deal when Sinatra started using it.
With Stevie and many others as well, there have to be songs that you just go into autopilot during. You start daydreaming and next thing you know you're lost. Don't forget Stevie has messed up the lyrics a ton of times over the years, the recording of "The Dance" had to be stopped while Stevie tried to get "Dreams" right because she forgot how it started.
Whether your on stage or the president, the prompter is only there to keep you on target, that's all.

Oh I would so love to see "The Dance" rehearsal video.Does anyone know if it is even out there?I mean one with all the flubs,not one where all the rehearsed songs came out flawless.

[PenguinHead]

Did you listen to In Your Dreams?


I'd rather her get rid of those in-ear monitors than
the teleprompter. She can't help but fool with them
on every stinking song.

Give me the days of Elvis and Led Zeppelin and others
who didn't rely on this technology. They rocked without
it. Come to think of it, Stevie and the Mac did without it
in the 70's and much of the eighties. Possible exception
of a filmed event.

All musicians utilize the technology that exists at any given era. Sound and production standards for shows are much higher now than in the days of Elvis and Led Zeppelin. Using monitors and teleprompters is not a sign of weakness or deficiency. Most artists don't rely too heavily on teleprompters, but they are a helpful reference - a safety net of sorts.

[Machu]

I don't think it's a problem. She probably needs it "just in case" or maybe if she forgets what verse she's on. It's not like she stares at it. In fact, I've never seen her look down at it.

[teedeerocks]

I don't think it's a problem. She probably needs it "just in case" or maybe if she forgets what verse she's on. It's not like she stares at it. In fact, I've never seen her look down at it.

I'm sure many of you (maybe all of you) have seen this but it seems appropriate considering the topic:http://youtu.be/WM9A13u5SIc.Also,it looks to me like Stevie is getting a little irritated with Lori.What do y'all think?

[olive]

it's just one more convenience to make all that money she is making to perform the songs she sang a million times less stressful for her

[kak125]

I'm sure many of you (maybe all of you) have seen this but it seems appropriate considering the topic:http://youtu.be/WM9A13u5SIc.Also,it looks to me like Stevie is getting a little irritated with Lori.What do y'all think?

Thanks for posting this video. I found a few other ones from the GMA rehearsal on youtube as well. They are so good. I could just sit there and watch Stevie all day long.

Landslide & For What Its Worth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hquyY7IBJ0c - lol her hand motions on For What Its Worth are hysterical.

[teedeerocks]

Thanks for posting this video. I found a few other ones from the GMA rehearsal on youtube as well. They are so good. I could just sit there and watch Stevie all day long.

Landslide & For What Its Worth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hquyY7IBJ0c - lol her hand motions on For What Its Worth are hysterical.

You're welcome kak125 and I'm glad you enjoyed it.Yes those hand gestures are funny - I guess she needed something to do with her hands:laugh:I think she got a little too close to the mike when she said something along the line of "I don't even know the words to that song" and then slightly shakes her head and rolls her eyes.Even she knows she's a goofball:)And when she sings sorta under her breath,"No one knows how I feel blah blah blah".Do you think she seemed irritated by Lori or is it just me?

[vivfox]

it looks to me like Stevie is getting a little irritated with Lori.What do y'all think?


Do you think she seemed irritated by Lori or is it just me?

It's just you.

[michelej1]

One time in Europe she called Cory Buckingham out for streaming the words on the teleprompter wrong. Back then, Cory was in charge of it.

Michele

[teedeerocks]

It's just you.

Alrighty then....

[teedeerocks]

One time in Europe she called Cory Buckingham out for streaming the words on the teleprompter wrong. Back then, Cory was in charge of it.

Michele

Yes I remember reading that somewhere.I guess Stevie really does rely on the ol' prompter.I guess she doesn't listen to her songs 50 times a week like we do:)She's too busy taking self - portraits;).

[Newzchspy]

One time in Europe she called Cory Buckingham out for streaming the words on the teleprompter wrong. Back then, Cory was in charge of it.

Michele

Does/did Cory input them or what??? How can you get them wrong unless its all being manually done??

I noticed during Lindsey's sessions for SoundStage that they did not use teleprompters , BUT used simple handwritten set lists on the floor near his foot pedals.

[lovethemac1]

Does/did Cory input them or what??? How can you get them wrong unless its all being manually done??

I noticed during Lindsey's sessions for SoundStage that they did not use teleprompters , BUT used simple handwritten set lists on the floor near his foot pedals.

They have set lists in front of Lindsey during concerts. On the floor right by his mic. I have one. And I have one from his solo show a few years ago too. He must have good eyesight, the printing is not that big.

[michelej1]

Does/did Cory input them or what??? How can you get them wrong unless its all being manually done??

I noticed during Lindsey's sessions for SoundStage that they did not use teleprompters , BUT used simple handwritten set lists on the floor near his foot pedals.

Cory was streaming the wrong song when it wasn't time for it in the set, apparently.

Michele

[bwboy]

I think every concert I've ever been to had teleprompters on stage, so I think it's funny anyone is bothered by this. Guess what, they even put the set list on the stage, too.

[WatchChain]

I think all the artists today use the teleprompters. I think its alright to have them on hand in case you mind goes blank boy do i have those days all the time.

You are correct. The use of teleprompters during live concerts has become fairly commonplace nowadays. Depending on where you are sitting and your view of the stage, you might have view of them. When I'm at an arena show, I like to buy tickets on the SIDE of the arena, so I have a close up view from the side. I've witnessed more than a few artists using these teleprompters in the past few years.

[LB Freakazoid]

Does/did Cory input them or what??? How can you get them wrong unless its all being manually done??

I noticed during Lindsey's sessions for SoundStage that they did not use teleprompters , BUT used simple handwritten set lists on the floor near his foot pedals.

Whenever I prompt singers, the tour manager gives me a word file and I load that file into the prompter program. Either the entire show is in the same doc, or each song is a different file. I can pull up whatever song at any given time and also given a hard copy of the set list so I can arrange the songs in the proper order. If something was wrong in the prompter, it's 99.9999999% of the time because someone gave the wrong file/info. People on stage LOVE to blame prompter peeps when THEY mess up! Ha!

Usually, freelance prompter peeps use the professional programs, and they run around $3500 for each computer ( you have to have a the main and a back up running simultaneously). I use Telescript Pro. The cheaper ones ( under a $1000) are great for video shoots, however, for live, you need a pro with pro gear that's reliable.

[vivfox]

Whenever I prompt singers, the tour manager gives me a word file and I load that file into the prompter program. Either the entire show is in the same doc, or each song is a different file. I can pull up whatever song at any given time and also given a hard copy of the set list so I can arrange the songs in the proper order. If something was wrong in the prompter, it's 99.9999999% of the time because someone gave the wrong file/info. People on stage LOVE to blame prompter peeps when THEY mess up! Ha!

Usually, freelance prompter peeps use the professional programs, and they run around $3500 for each computer ( you have to have a the main and a back up running simultaneously). I use Telescript Pro. The cheaper ones ( under a $1000) are great for video shoots, however, for live, you need a pro with pro gear that's reliable.


Thank you for explaining this. I love technology explained.