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mezzoforte
10-17-2011, 12:00 PM
Aaron Echart just signed on (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/10/aaron-eckhart-beach-boy-dennis-wilson-drummer.html?mid=twitter_vulture) to play Dennis Wilson in The Drummer, which will cover the last six years of Wilson's life.
I think it's safe to assume the movie will include his relationship with our Christine.
Thoughts? Feelings? Opinions?
And once again, we may turn to the question: who's fit to play Chris?
WildHearted
10-17-2011, 12:26 PM
Cate Blanchett?
HejiraNYC
10-17-2011, 12:38 PM
Aaron Echart just signed on (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/10/aaron-eckhart-beach-boy-dennis-wilson-drummer.html?mid=twitter_vulture) to play Dennis Wilson in The Drummer, which will cover the last six years of Wilson's life.
I think it's safe to assume the movie will include his relationship with our Christine.
Thoughts? Feelings? Opinions?
And once again, we may turn to the question: who's fit to play Chris?
Ugh... Aaron Eckhart? Really? He plays the same character in every movie. Unless Dennis Wilson was a sarcastic, snarky, smooth-talking a-hole, I don't see how this casting will work. Isn't Joaquin Phoenix available for this?? Josh Brolin??
Indeed, Christine has to be featured at some point in this movie... although I wonder how they will be able to write this part of ths screenplay without Christine's direct participation. Even though Christine was only in her mid-late 30s at the time, she definitely seemed to come across much more mature or regal, even. And though she had an undeniable physical appeal, she had a bit of a... "funny face," which is pretty much non-existent in the current crop of younger Hollywood actresses; you would never find a young Meryl Streep, Barbra Streisand or Bette Midler in Hollywood today, which is a shame. That being said, given her chameleon-like quality, I think Charlize Theron (with some prosthetics) could probably do Christine well. She seems to have the kind of gravitas needed for this sort of role.
michelej1
10-17-2011, 12:49 PM
you would never find a young Meryl Streep, Barbra Streisand or Bette Midler in Hollywood today, which is a shame.
Funny you should say this because I was just thinking Friday that Jennifer Ehle had the look of a young Meryl Streep. Now, I didn't get to see her flex her acting chops that much in Ides, but I thought she had that slightly off-center look.
Michele
TrueFaith77
10-17-2011, 12:50 PM
Cate Blanchett?
Charlize Theron
Both are so monstrous. Dear God, No. (I actually think they are probably the two worst actresses in movies today.)
Besides, I believe that Christine contains within her the soul of England. Therefore, I think she should be played by an English actress.
I've been saying Sally Hawkins since BEFORE Happy-Go-Lucky (I loved her in All or Nothing and Vera Drake!). Plus she reminds me of Katrin Cartlidge, who really would have been my choice had she not passed untimely, so it would be almost like she's playing both Katrin and Christine (a la Eddie Izzard playing Charlie Chaplin, but signifying Orson Welles in Cat's Meow).
Ugh... Aaron Eckhart? Really? He plays the same character in every movie. Unless Dennis Wilson was a sarcastic, snarky, smooth-talking a-hole, I don't see how this casting will work. Isn't Joaquin Phoenix available for this?? Josh Brolin??
Your point is valid about Aaron, until one considers that he recently gave his greatest ever performance, in Battle: Los Angeles. He's everything he's usually not. So soulful, moving, patriotic, humane, hunky. I cried buckets.
Meanwhile, Josh Brolin's inflated ego deflates every role.
WildHearted
10-17-2011, 12:52 PM
She is so monstrous. Dear God, No.
Besides, I believe that Christine contains within her the soul of England. Therefore, I think she should be played by an English actress.
Oops, I thought Cate Blanchett was English - the only movie I've ever seen that she was in was the one where she played Queen Elizabeth.
She just physically kind of reminds me of Chris for some reason, idk idk.
mezzoforte
10-17-2011, 12:56 PM
Funny you should say this because I was just thinking Friday that Jennifer Ehle had the look of a young Meryl Streep. Now, I didn't get to see her flex her acting chops that much in Ides, but I thought she had that slightly off-center look.
Michele
Indeed she does. I was just watching Independence Road, and was startled by her Streepishness. But I wouldn't classify Ehle among the pretty ingenues to which Ed refers.
mezzoforte
10-17-2011, 12:57 PM
Oops, I thought Cate Blanchett was English - the only movie I've ever seen that she was in was the one where she played Queen Elizabeth.
She just physically kind of reminds me of Chris for some reason, idk idk.
I adore Cate Blanchett, and she certainly plays English well. I'm with you, WildHearted--I think Cate is the best casting we could hope for.
HejiraNYC
10-17-2011, 01:44 PM
Funny you should say this because I was just thinking Friday that Jennifer Ehle had the look of a young Meryl Streep. Now, I didn't get to see her flex her acting chops that much in Ides, but I thought she had that slightly off-center look.
Michele
Wow, she really does look like Meryl, albeit, a less idiosyncratic version of her; she still has a decidedly mainstream beauty aesthetic about her.
http://desmondwallace.freeblog.hu/files/Jennifer%20Ehle2.jpg
You know it's a sad state of affairs when Jennifer Aniston is cast as the frumpy-looking ex-wife a la "Just Go with It." Call me old school, but I don't think really attractive people (in the conventional sense) can pull off comedy acting.
jbrownsjr
10-17-2011, 01:45 PM
I adore Cate Blanchett, and she certainly plays English well. I'm with you, WildHearted--I think Cate is the best casting we could hope for.
I like her too.
beccamorrisfift
10-17-2011, 03:33 PM
I wonder what Christine's thoughts are on this ?
It would be really interesting to see her portrayed by an actress, I can't see any really famous Hollywood woman doing it, I would love it if they found some undiscovered British girl with the same dry wit as Chris.
I adored Joaquin Phoenix in Walk the Line but based on appearance I think they made a decent choice in casting Aaron Eckhart. I'm so intrigued to see this film.
I realize it's a new project but does anyone have any ideas on release dates ?
chiliD
10-17-2011, 03:59 PM
I dunno, I kind of like the Aaron Eckhart casting...
http://bp1.blogger.com/_fD8u_13bUcI/R5-0qf__XNI/AAAAAAAAAEc/bhSw5cvwAiA/s320/Aaron+Eckhart.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/Dennis_Wilson.jpg
...Cate WOULD make a good "Christine McVie", as well...
http://www.makeupfor-women.com/wp-content/uploads/massupload/773619kate-blanchett-_1.jpg
http://retrorebirth.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/christine-mcvie-fleetwood-mac-birthday-july-12.jpg
just too bad that they're on that era because the BEST Christine from The Dance to now is definitely...
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Chopard+Trophy+Red+Carpet+63rd+Cannes+Film+rXXiJYRizf2l.jpg
http://www.fmlegacy.com/Graphics/Christine_092603.jpg
beccamorrisfift
10-17-2011, 04:03 PM
McVie and Mirren could be sisters !
chiliD
10-17-2011, 04:04 PM
McVie and Mirren could be sisters !
They'd have to be either twins or half-sisters...they're pretty close to the same age.
aleuzzi
10-17-2011, 07:50 PM
Cate's too bony and slim. Whoever plays Christine has to be tall, long, but also a bit harder-featured. And she must be able to do that voice!
TrueFaith77
10-17-2011, 08:01 PM
Cate's too bony and slim. Whoever plays Christine has to be tall, long, but also a bit harder-featured. And she must be able to do that voice!
Ergo: Katrin Cartlidge. :(
or Sally Hawkins!
jbrownsjr
10-17-2011, 08:02 PM
Cate's too bony and slim. Whoever plays Christine has to be tall, long, but also a bit harder-featured. And she must be able to do that voice!
And she has to say Shetvie and Shtudio and Linsdeeeee
sushud82
10-18-2011, 10:34 AM
I just can't imagine who would really pull off a good Christine. It's hard for me to envision what the role would be like as well - will it be a big part or will she just be in the background? She would've been in her mid 30s then, but her age or look are not necessarily going to be a big concern to filmmakers. Everyone I think of would be too old (Emma Thompson), too young (Cary Mulligan) or too American (Michelle Williams).
Cate Blanchett?
i second that - she'd be perfect.
TrueFaith77
10-18-2011, 01:03 PM
did y'all miss the sally hawkins memo?
did y'all miss the sally hawkins memo?
no. blanchett is much better fit:p
TrueFaith77
10-18-2011, 01:27 PM
no. blanchett is much better fit:p
Do you hate Christine?
chiliD
10-18-2011, 01:27 PM
... Katrin Cartlidge...
or Sally Hawkins!
Katrin Cartlidge would be a good Sharon Celani. :shrug: :nod: Christine? Uh....no
Sally Hawkins would be a good Chrissy Hynde. :shrug: :nod: Christine? Again...uh....no.
Do you hate Christine?
why? i actually like Cate, btw.
TrueFaith77
10-18-2011, 04:39 PM
why? i actually like Cate, btw.
Well, that is beyond me. You want her to do to the beloved Christine what she did to Katharine Hepburn. :(
TrueFaith77
10-18-2011, 04:40 PM
Katrin Cartlidge would be a good Sharon Celani. :shrug: :nod: Christine? Uh....no
Sally Hawkins would be a good Chrissy Hynde. :shrug: :nod: Christine? Again...uh....no.
It's not JUST about appearance. It's about conveying someone's soul. Since Cate has no soul, she's not capable of doing it for anyone, much less Christine McVie (an actual Brit).
Well, that is beyond me. You want her to do to the beloved Christine what she did to Katharine Hepburn. :(
well, you know more than me - haven't seen her portrayal of Hepburn so i might need to defer to your judgement there. i did like her in the roles i've seen her in and i do think she has physical resemblance, especially face.
i agree that it is not all in the looks, but looks / sound are definitely a big part of it. for example, i hated Joaquin Phoenix in the role of Johnny Cash since he has zero physical resemblance, and more importantly, he sounds nothing like him when he sings. i know he's got all these accolades and awards for the role, but that still means nothing to me. for me one of the essential things about Johnny Cash was his deep gorgeous voice, he could sing anything and it would sound good. and Phoenix sounds nothing like him when he sings, it was like i was not even listening to Cash's songs when they were performed in the movie... so although i liked the movie, i could never really get into it and think that i'm supposed to be watching movie about Cash - it was just a good story that mimicked his life story, but Phoenix was NOT Johnny Cash.
aleuzzi
10-18-2011, 05:10 PM
It's possible that the movie won't even feature Christine, that the story will gloss over Wilson's relationship with her and perhaps relegate her to someone who is mentioned but never seen. Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants.
BombaySapphire3
10-18-2011, 05:12 PM
True..they did a television biopic and Christine was not in it at all.
michelej1
10-18-2011, 06:13 PM
so although i liked the movie, i could never really get into it and think that i'm supposed to be watching movie about Cash - it was just a good story that mimicked his life story, but Phoenix was NOT Johnny Cash.
Reese wasn't June either. She may have done a nice acting job, she may have played part of an interesting country singing duo, but she wasn't June Carter Cash. By contrast, I think Sissy Spacek was Loretta Lynn.
Michele
chiliD
10-18-2011, 06:27 PM
It's not JUST about appearance. It's about conveying someone's soul. Since Cate has no soul, she's not capable of doing it for anyone, much less Christine McVie (an actual Brit).
No matter, appearance DOES make a difference. At least for me, if the actor/actress is a close resemblance to the person they're portraying, I'll let more slide than if I have to really stretch my imagination to make the portrayer fit the role appearance-wise.
Like that 90's TV bio-drama about the Beach Boys...none of them even came CLOSE to looking like any of the Wilson brothers...it just wasn't believeable to me.
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