FM - tour, EP in 2012 (billboard)

[elle]

http://www.billboard.com/events/fleetwood-mac-returning-for-2012-tour-1005350092.story#/events/fleetwood-mac-returning-for-2012-tour-1005350092.story

Fleetwood Mac Returning for 2012 Tour

Fleetwood Mac will definitely be touring in 2012. Just don't ask anybody for any firm details yet.

"We're so disorganized as a band, I don't know what to tell you," drummer and co-founder Mick Fleetwood tells Billboard.com with a laugh. "All we know is we're working next year. I'll get a phone call that we're going to start rehearsing -- usually in a blind panic because we leave everything (until) way too late. But we're all up for touring in the early summer of next year, I think, and once we start we're much like U2 and the (Rolling) Stones in terms of workload. We basically play until no one wants to book us anymore."

Mashup Mondays: Augustana 'Dreams' Up Fleetwood Mac
http://www.billboard.com/events/fleetwood-mac-returning-for-2012-tour-1005350092.story#/column/mashupmondays/augustana-dreams-up-fleetwood-mac-1005174752.story

Singer-guitarist Lindsey Buckingham, who's currently on the road promoting his new solo album "Seeds We Sow," adds that, "There has been nothing, no time frame yet of any kind. We're just gonna have to wait until probably the first of the year to sit down and figure out some kind of schedule for that."

The trek, Fleetwood Mac's first since its Unleashed Tour in 2009, will follow both Buckingham's album as well as Stevie Nicks' "In Your Dreams," which came out in May and features both Buckingham and Fleetwood. Buckingham says that "there's been talk about doing another Fleetwood Mac album," but Fleetwood feels that's an unlikely scenario, at least before the tour.

"On the face of it we won't have time to make an album, which is somewhat of a shame," he notes. "But I think what we can do, and I hope it does happen, is we can get in and have fun doing two or three (songs), which is so 'now' with all the Internet stuff and people shoving out EPs and separate tracks. So that would probably be our best effort to get three or four new songs before we go out on the road, which I really hope we do."

Lindsey Buckingham on Solo Work, the Mac and 'Glee'
http://www.billboard.com/events/fleetwood-mac-returning-for-2012-tour-1005350092.story#/news/lindsey-buckingham-on-solo-work-the-mac-1005330702.story

Buckingham adds that he's "into whatever the group wisdom would dictate," but as Fleetwood Mac's longtime co-producer he says that he might be willing to hand over those reins for whatever recording project the group would undertake. "I think it might be interesting to get maybe an outside producer in -- not that I wouldn't be hammering on him," Buckingham says. "But still, someone who could sort of deal with the politics and the overview, I would think, would make my job a lot easier."

Even if new material doesn't transpire, however, Fleetwood and his bandmates, including bassist and co-founder John McVie, are confident they have the goods from Fleetwood Mac's 44-year recording catalog to keep people coming out for the shows.

"The (Unleashed) tour was the only tour we've done, ever, where we didn't have a new album," Fleetwood says. "So we actually had a ball really delving into our portfolio of songs and pulled out a few songs that weren't necessarily super, super well-known, and to us they felt like new songs. We got refreshed in terms of the way we present our music, and (the fans) loved it. We are blessed with having so much (music) that, in theory, we never stand a chance of being bored because even though the songs are 30 years old or more, there are so many of them that have never played on stage. That's a blessing to have."

Next year will also mark the 35th anniversary of Fleetwood Mac's landmark "Rumours" album as well, but Buckingham says there's been no discussion yet about doing something special to commemorate that. "Warner Bros. has certainly done its share of rehashing that particular album and reissuing it in various forms," he says. "I could see it as being a bit of a challenge to find another way to do it but, y'know, anything's possible. I'm open to whatever, really."

Buckingham currently has dates booked in North America and the U.K. until the end of the year and may add more for early 2012. Stevie Nicks plays three California shows in October, then heads to Australia in November. And while he waits for Fleetwood Mac to reactivate, Fleetwood is partnering with Cabo Wabo Tequila for a new music and conversation program called "Off The Record." Fleetwood and singer-songwriter Nicole Atkins filmed the first episode during August in his home base of Maui, where he's opening a new club, Fleetwood's On Front, this fall. The episode will premiere Oct. 11 on Cabo Wabo's YouTube page, with a sneak preview posting in late September.

[WildHearted]

Guess I should save up my money.

[WelshWitchPMD]

Buckingham currently has dates booked in North America and the U.K. until the end of the year and may add more for early 2012

Please don't let this be a maybe. Please let this happen and do my one show and then Fleetwood Mac can do whatever!

[Sanne2]

Not sure how I feel about them touring again without a new album (I doubt they're able to deliver an EP in that time too)
Not that it will stop me from going, but if they're doing this they better make it really ****ing special and pull some rare songs from the catalogue or drag Christine along with them.

[mottabam]

Yeah, I'd really at minimum like to see them put out an EP before touring. Even if they don't I'm sure I'll be there for a few shows.

[AliceLover]

All of the press indicates, to me, that they are already BOOKED to play in 2012. Whether that means they have to play a certain number of shows or they are bound by contract. Its strange to me that Lindsey, Mick, and Stevie would all be talking about TOURING with the Mac in 2012. Everything seems so rushed. It seems to me that maybe they were given 2 years after the last tour to pull together an album and then tour 2012? I don't know, all of this sounds fishy. Why are they in such a hurry? Lindsey and Stevie could ride out their new albums well into next year; I think they would be happy to do it as well.

What really SUCKS about the Mac tour is that its going to be the same set as the last tour. They really can't and won't change much set list wise. I guess the only possibility is that Stevie is going to have to do either Angel or Sisters of the Moon.

[MacShadowsBall]

I hope they tour and put out a new album, since they both have gotten their solo career fix out of their systems.

[LilyRose]

I would love for them to do an EP, of course, but I'd see them tour anyway. I didn't see any of the 2009 shows, so it will be a new experience for me regardless. However, I would love, love, love for Stevie to do Sisters of the Moon!! I think she's aware people want to hear it again.

[Macfanforever]

Wow thanks for the heads up.An EP.What they hold 5 tunes.

[Neal]

I just love they way they talk about the Unleashed Tour, as if it was some wild & crazy, fly-by-the-seat-of-our-pants event! It was the SYW tour with "Storms" subbing for "Beautiful Child".

Not to say I didn't love both shows I forked out $$$ for... :o

[PenguinHead]

I just love they way they talk about the Unleashed Tour, as if it was some wild & crazy, fly-by-the-seat-of-our-pants event! It was the SYW tour with "Storms" subbing for "Beautiful Child".

Not to say I didn't love both shows I forked out $$$ for... :o

Exactly my thoughts! Absent of the "newer" songs from the Say You Will album, their set list was mostly their standard fare. Are they kidding themselves? The joke is apparently on us.

[Morgana]

I don't know, all of this sounds fishy.

Hmmmmm......*Raising an eyebrow here* It does indeed sound rushed and, "fishy!"

It would be awesome to see a new cd or a few songs such as an EP, but unless they have already done some work and it's ready to go.....new songs just aren't gonna happen! :distress: And that leaves a possible option; they are banking on the fact their old fan base still loves them :xoxo: and will come no matter what. :blob2:

If they added a different set list other than the old standby it might be doable! Like mentioned, do Angel or SOTM! *wishing aloud* "And please.....please....come to Raleigh or Greensboro and DON'T CANCEL this time!"

That really irritated me, got tickets to Unleashed....Greensboro, NC......then they cancelled and didn't reschedule!

[GypsySorcerer]

I didn't attend a show on the Unleashed tour, so if they go on the road next year, I'll likely go. I would love some new material, but I'm not optimistic. :shrug:

[sushud82]

I'd like to say that I won't pay for another Greatest Hits re-hash, but they're counting on me to be a sucker. I just can't miss them if they're in town but I was really disappointed with the Unleashed tour. What was Unleashed about it? The ticket prices? Feh!

Would love to some new material released before a tour, but it sounds like its a done deal even though the deets are sketchy. I don't know much about the inner workings of The Mac, but sounds like somebody needs to get paid.

/cynicism

[Christopher]

Exactly my thoughts! Absent of the "newer" songs from the Say You Will album, their set list was mostly their standard fare. Are they kidding themselves? The joke is apparently on us.

I'd like to say that I won't pay for another Greatest Hits re-hash, but they're counting on me to be a sucker. I just can't miss them if they're in town but I was really disappointed with the Unleashed tour. What was Unleashed about it? The ticket prices? Feh!

Would love to some new material released before a tour, but it sounds like its a done deal even though the deets are sketchy. I don't know much about the inner workings of The Mac, but sounds like somebody needs to get paid.

/cynicism

YUP! Another "Greatest Hits" tour with *deep cuts* thrown in... Y A W N!! Yes, I enjoyed Beautiful Child & Storms etc. However, this time if they do not at the minimum put out an EP I will be so disappointed & disillusioned in these guys! C'mon, Lindsey has been more prolific and expedient in his whole career (3 solo albums in 5 yrs!) and Stevie with IYD - there is no excuse to go in with the help of an outside producer & put together an EP of at least 4 stellar songs!:nod::cool: I mean it's a money grab no matter what, may as well throw a few bones to the true fans of their art! Stevie has never sounded better vocally (get that on tape NOW) & I can't believe Lindsey would be down for another GH tour w/o some new material.:shrug:

I'm not buying that this is exactly official. No contracts have been signed, according to Mick, and didn't Billboard through Irving Azoff publish a similar story that the Mac would be touring in 2010!? Oh, how the managers and agents just want to get their cut of the FM touring $$$!! They could care less about new material, hopefully Stevie & Lindsey will see to it differently.

[louielouie2000]

I just don't get it- Stevie & Lindsey are both totally high on their respective new albums, calling them their best solo works to date. Both are hugely creatively charged from the experience. Both are getting the best critical reviews of their careers. It wouldn't surprise me if the industry recognizes both with awards for their new work. Both are getting more press than they have since the Dance. So why on earth would they just shut down all this tremendous forward motion and relegate Fleetwood Mac to an oldies recital? The stars are aligned for Fleetwood Mac to make really great music together, AND for it to be critically praised. Why on earth would they pass that up? :shrug:

[CADreaming]

Probably negotiating with WB or seeing what other options to pursue...

[McTrouble]

I just don't get it- Stevie & Lindsey are both totally high on their respective new albums, calling them their best solo works to date. Both are hugely creatively charged from the experience. Both are getting the best critical reviews of their careers. It wouldn't surprise me if the industry recognizes both with awards for their new work. Both are getting more press than they have since the Dance. So why on earth would they just shut down all this tremendous forward motion and relegate Fleetwood Mac to an oldies recital? The stars are aligned for Fleetwood Mac to make really great music together, AND for it to be critically praised. Why on earth would they pass that up? :shrug:

This is the perfect opportunity for their final and possibly greatest album ever - if they pulled that off, I think we would forgive them endless "hits" tours from then on!

[HejiraNYC]

This is the perfect opportunity for their final and possibly greatest album ever - if they pulled that off, I think we would forgive them endless "hits" tours from then on!

To be fair, they've only done one "hits" tour.

I think Fleetwood Mac has every right to hit the road and make as much cash as they can grab at this point in their lives. They do realize that time is marching on quickly and that they should squeeze in a tour whenever/wherever possible while they still have the ability to do large, arena-scale shows. What's different this time vs. Unleashed? Lindsey and Stevie have new(ish) albums under their belts. If they tour without putting out an EP (which seems to be more than likely), they will most definitely incorporate new solo songs into the set. "Secret Love" is a given since Mick plays drums on it and it is considered to be a Rumours era song. "Soldiers Angel" = Duh! I wouldn't be surprised to see three songs from each of their respective solo albums appear in the setlist, which is comparable to the number of new songs we would normally get from a Fleetwood Mac tour. This combined with one or two obscure treasures from the past plus all the hits, I think would make a fantastic show! Sign me up!

Must. renew. passport.

[Macfanforever]

I hope for new tunes EP or CD..Of course.They wont get radio airplay on todays radio.Of course I love to see Christine pop in on the recording and lend her voice,but Thats not going to happen.Hum.I wonder what will be the name of the upcoming tour and EP will be."Unleased PT2"."Hello Again" tour.

[Morgana]

I hope for new tunes EP or CD..Of course.They wont get radio airplay on todays radio.Of course I love to see Christine pop in on the recording and lend her voice,but Thats not going to happen.Hum.I wonder what will be the name of the upcoming tour and EP will be."Unleased PT2"."Hello Again" tour.

Maybe they'll copy the Eagles and call it Farewell Part 1? :shrug:;)

[michelej1]

What's different this time vs. Unleashed? Lindsey and Stevie have new(ish) albums under their belts. If they tour without putting out an EP (which seems to be more than likely), they will most definitely incorporate new solo songs into the set.

I like your idea, if we can't get new FM material, but I'm far from thinking it will "most definitely" happen. I think they would be even more afraid of playing new solo songs in a FM concert than they are of playing new FM songs. In fact, I'd see them as being more likely to bundle a Fleetwood Mac tour into a BN re-release and do "new" BN songs before any SWS or IYD songs. Although, if they did venture there, I think Soldier's Angel would certainly make the cut.

Michele

[jbrownsjr]

I like your idea, if we can't get new FM material, but I'm far from thinking it will "most definitely" happen. I think they would be even more afraid of playing new solo songs in a FM concert than they are of playing new FM songs. In fact, I'd see them as being more likely to bundle a Fleetwood Mac tour into a BN re-release and do "new" BN songs before any SWS or IYD songs. Although, if they did venture there, I think Soldier's Angel would certainly make the cut.

Michele

Maybe they'll do the whole Mystery to Me album in order. :]

[TrueFaith77]

Interesting that they want to do an EP before the tour... to see if they get on in the studio? It's confusing... to promote the tour?

Maybe they should do new songs on tour and release a live album a la The Dance... and then if they get on, fold those songs into a full album, which will have songs everybody knows, having been on the tour and live album...

[Silver Springs]

Why do I feel as though this EP won't happen, and that the new tour shall simply be a rehash of a "greatest hits" tour, like Unleashed? I have absolutely no idea why I would feel this way. I have no reason at all to do so :rolleyes:

[ButterCookie]

Maybe they'll do the whole Mystery to Me album in order. :]

Now, you see, I WOULD fork out £100+ to see that happen. I will not fork out the obnoxious ticket prices for the same old repackaged set that I refused to pay out for in 09.

No Christine, no dice.

[HomerMcvie]

Maybe they'll do the whole Mystery to Me album in order. :]

Now where's the "like" button?:confused:

[LilyRose]

Maybe they'll do the whole Mystery to Me album in order. :]

Bahahaha! That's my 3rd favorite Mac album, but without Christine it would be blasphemous!

They better change **** up though. I'm over the people who only hear Rumours songs. They can sit at home and listen to the album if that's the case.

[snroxman]

Please, Please, Please... Perform "Dreams". It's been years (!) since we've heard the Fleetwood Mac arrangement :)

Okay, with that out of the way, I'd love to see an EP, but I'd be shocked if it actually happened. We can hope!

With the limited time between now and next summer to and make it easier, I'd love to see them record several simple acoustic tracks, and use that as the EP. Remember how well "Gypsy" went over as an acoustic performance with just Stevie and Lindsey? Everyone loved it.

[TrueFaith77]

I love how MIck is all like: we have so many songs to pull out of the catalogue. We did so many on the last tour and teh crowd loved it: umm... Storms... and what else?

So now we might get a rare gem like... IDWTK or Crystal... but just one, and they'll act like they have taken a chance. sigh.

[Macfanforever]

I hope they bring SOTM back to life on tour.

[HejiraNYC]

With the limited time between now and next summer to and make it easier, I'd love to see them record several simple acoustic tracks, and use that as the EP. Remember how well "Gypsy" went over as an acoustic performance with just Stevie and Lindsey? Everyone loved it.

When has that ever happened? Fleetwood Mac (since 1975 anyway) has never merely crapped out something rushed and half-a$$ed (well, okay, perhaps with the exception of "Ricky" :lol: ). They have too much of a polished legacy to uphold.

[SteveMacD]

When has that ever happened? Fleetwood Mac (since 1975 anyway) has never merely crapped out something rushed and half-a$$ed (well, okay, perhaps with the exception of "Ricky" :lol: ). They have too much of a polished legacy to uphold.

And THAT'S the problem.

[jbrownsjr]

And THAT'S the problem.

Agreed, in my opinion each time they tour these same tunes sound less and less polished, and boring even.

[KenshiMaster16]

This needs to be their setlist. Hands down. It'll never happen but it should be. Featuring stuff from White Album, Rumours, Tusk, Mirage, Tango and Say You Will with notable singles, new songs and tracks never performed on a tour before. It's perfect and still thinking slightly outside of the box.

The Chain
Dreams
I Know I'm Not Wrong
Gypsy
Peacekeeper
*New Stevie Song*
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Tusk
Sara
Big Love
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
Straight Back
*New Lindsey Song*
Seven Wonders
I Don't Want To Know
Gold Dust Woman
Not That Funny
I'm So Afraid
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
Sisters Of The Moon
Don't Stop
Silver Springs

[kimmersxa]

all this talk about them bringing back "sisters of the moon" is too exciting! (sigh) now to start saving that money! :]

[iamnotafraid]

They should go to Third Man Records.
Jack could have them an EP in a couple
of days.

[ButterCookie]

They should go to Third Man Records.
Jack could have them an EP in a couple
of days.

That's if Stevie decided to show up ;)

[Macfanforever]

Again will radio play FM's new tunes.I doubt it.SYW did get good airplay.Stevie's IYD got scrach.Will in my area.

[michelej1]

Agreed, in my opinion each time they tour these same tunes sound less and less polished, and boring even.

I agree that the tunes start to sound boring, but not really because they're less polished. I think they're mostly too polished. Although, Lindsey is doing something with NGBA that has strung it out and taken all of the song out of it. That one I wouldn't considered polish any longer. Free Brushes, people!

Michele

[jmn3]

I love how MIck is all like: we have so many songs to pull out of the catalogue. We did so many on the last tour and teh crowd loved it: umm... Storms... and what else?

In their heads, I think they look at Monday Morning (last played 1980), Go Insane (last played 1997, first time played with full band in 2009), obviously Storms, and Oh Well (last played 1994, last played with Lindsey 1982).

Ridiculous to me, but I think they look at that kind of stuff when making these statements. Not to mention, I think they still consider I Know I'm Not Wrong and Sara as something different.

[APerfectLie]

I love how MIck is all like: we have so many songs to pull out of the catalogue. We did so many on the last tour and teh crowd loved it: umm... Storms... and what else?

So now we might get a rare gem like... IDWTK or Crystal... but just one, and they'll act like they have taken a chance. sigh.

Well if they pull out Crystal, here is to hoping Stevie takes lead vocals!

I don't know. With three band members talking about DEFINITELY touring, it seems that there may be a Greatest Hits compilation (perhaps like Crystal Visions with a DVD?) coming out next year that they are already aware of. That being said tho, they all talked about how there was going to be some Unleashed Greatest Hits pack and re-release of Rumours in 2009, which never saw the light of day, so maybe they are all talking out of their asses again and no tour will happen.

[Fiver]

I guess they've got ants in their pants to go out there and make the most of the whole Glee thing. Really hoping for that EP or atleast some of the new solo songs incorporated into the set.

But I'll be going to a show anyway, since I didn't become a fan until after Unleashed.

[Spikey]

I think I need to quote "da man" Lindsey about small and big machines. I have no doubt that's his motivation. Given his contributions to Mac albums have all been solo tracks since 1982, it's almost 30 years since he specifically wrote a Mac track (or many of them, anyway, maybe he wrote a new one or two for SYW and Tango).

He's in it for money for his family and solo career. And I can't blame him, although I'd love new FM stuff in the vein (though not finished product) of SYW/their new solo albums.



Personally, I can't get really excited about an "Unleashed 2" tour. Where's Lindsey's spiel about it, when he's been giving us all this "Rumours 2" and Tusk?

The setlist that was posted sounds pretty close to what we'd get, although, of course, Straight Back has a "Meatloaf's hit album's" chance of being played.

Anyway, watch this space, or not. I have a bad feeling, as someone else said, that we'll be disappointed and it will be a second hits tour with no new music.. But I'm happy to be wrong.

[iamnotafraid]

That's if Stevie decided to show up ;)

I bet if Jack promised her one of The Black Belles
witch hats she'd show up.

[MacShadowsBall]

Thought I'd bump this back up....:cool:

[jellyman10]

Sometimes I cannot fathom my attachment to this band. They are revoltingly avaricious. If they do tour in 2012, I will be entering every radio contest going, in every country in the bloody world, in order to see them without paying.

[chiliD]

I think it's BEYOND time that Fleetwood Mac scale back it's "Big Machine" pompous attitude and realize that they're NOT the "big sh*t" they still think they are. Time to downsize BEFORE they get the big slap in the face. The declining of doing the Clinton party is positive proof. They can't do a set without rehearsing for three weeks? What kinda crap is that? For as long as they've been playing, they should be able to play a 90 minute set by just showing up at the same place at the same time. There's just too much BS in Mac-ville anymore. Their next project should probably be their "Farewell". They're quickly becoming a parody of themselve.

[jellyman10]

They can't do a set without rehearsing for three weeks? What kinda crap is that? For as long as they've been playing, they should be able to play a 90 minute set by just showing up at the same place at the same time.

I agree, although I didn't buy the rehearsal thing as LB's legit reason for not doing the Clinton gig. I think he just didn't want to do it and played upon Stevie's fear of being unrehearsed to escape her wrath over rejecting such an 'honour', given the hissy fit she threw over the inauguration.

[jellyman10]

There's just too much BS in Mac-ville anymore. Their next project should probably be their "Farewell". They're quickly becoming a parody of themselve.

Oh, you're right. I still feel all Brokeback Mountain I-wish-I-knew-how-to-quit-you about them, though. :( Maybe it will pass. Maybe I need to go cold turkey for a month. :p

[HomerMcvie]

I think it's BEYOND time that Fleetwood Mac scale back it's "Big Machine" pompous attitude and realize that they're NOT the "big sh*t" they still think they are. Time to downsize BEFORE they get the big slap in the face. The declining of doing the Clinton party is positive proof. They can't do a set without rehearsing for three weeks? What kinda crap is that? For as long as they've been playing, they should be able to play a 90 minute set by just showing up at the same place at the same time. There's just too much BS in Mac-ville anymore. Their next project should probably be their "Farewell". They're quickly becoming a parody of themselve.

I agree with every word. The Dance should have been the Farewell Tour. To me, it was. Now they're just beating some old dead horse...

[SteveMacD]

It's been 19 years since "The Chain" came out. They've released just two studio albums, two live albums, and a best-of since. Can we quit being under the illusion they're really a band anymore?

[jbrownsjr]

I agree with every word. The Dance should have been the Farewell Tour. To me, it was. Now they're just beating some old dead horse...

Dead horses sound better than that. I mean how many times can you hear these same songs that get worse everytime they play them.

Somebody help!!!

[HejiraNYC]

^^Perhaps it's time for y'all to consider starting an "I Hate Fleetwood Mac" forum. Seriously. I will just never understand why people bother to focus their time and energy on a band that they dislike with such venom.

[mezzoforte]

I think it's BEYOND time that Fleetwood Mac scale back it's "Big Machine" pompous attitude and realize that they're NOT the "big sh*t" they still think they are. Time to downsize BEFORE they get the big slap in the face. The declining of doing the Clinton party is positive proof. They can't do a set without rehearsing for three weeks? What kinda crap is that? For as long as they've been playing, they should be able to play a 90 minute set by just showing up at the same place at the same time. There's just too much BS in Mac-ville anymore. Their next project should probably be their "Farewell". They're quickly becoming a parody of themselve.


Stevie Nicks has been a parody of herself since 1981. Doesn't mean she's not glorious.

And as long as they want to play, and people want to hear them, why shouldn't they play? And if they want to rehearse and take it seriously--if they're still that concerned with getting it right and not just drifting through the motions--isn't that impressive?
Don't get me wrong: I think two weeks rehearse for the Clinton show would be absurd. But I don't see how it proves that FM's time is over.

[beccamorrisfift]

Stevie Nicks has been a parody of herself since 1981. Doesn't mean she's not glorious.

And as long as they want to play, and people want to hear them, why shouldn't they play? And if they want to rehearse and take it seriously--if they're still that concerned with getting it right and not just drifting through the motions--isn't that impressive?
Don't get me wrong: I think two weeks rehearse for the Clinton show would be absurd. But I don't see how it proves that FM's time is over.

GIMME FIVE ! :D

[jellyman10]

I don't hate them, not at all. Just having a bit of a vent. Probably need SortaSavage to post something amusing in the Stevie photo thread to bring me back. :laugh::laugh:

[AliceLover]

I think it's BEYOND time that Fleetwood Mac scale back it's "Big Machine" pompous attitude and realize that they're NOT the "big sh*t" they still think they are. Time to downsize BEFORE they get the big slap in the face. The declining of doing the Clinton party is positive proof. They can't do a set without rehearsing for three weeks? What kinda crap is that? For as long as they've been playing, they should be able to play a 90 minute set by just showing up at the same place at the same time. There's just too much BS in Mac-ville anymore. Their next project should probably be their "Farewell". They're quickly becoming a parody of themselve.

Actually, you're completely wrong. Fleetwood Mac hasn't been this popular since the Dance. I have young 13 and 14 year old students that are all into Rumours. Ever since the Glee episode, they have been dominating the younger demographic. The album has been in the top 100 albums chart since the episode in May. This next outing will probably be bigger than the last. They are very much still relevant, more today than in the past 15 years.

[jbrownsjr]

^^Perhaps it's time for y'all to consider starting an "I Hate Fleetwood Mac" forum. Seriously. I will just never understand why people bother to focus their time and energy on a band that they dislike with such venom.

Maybe you shouldn't focus on understanding Hejira. Maybe you don't understand because you assume wrong. Maybe because we don't hate Fleetwood Mac. I personally can't stand their last few tours and setlist. Loving new Stevie album. Really enjoying GOS and ready to buy LB's new solo album after I digest Stevie's. Further, I have been listening to Mac's albums for 30 years and still pop their songs on. I have great interest in their old and new music. Just can't stomach another Lindsey/Stevie corpse like show of theirs. That's all.

[louielouie2000]

I don't see why everything has to be black & white and mutually exclusive. I am still allowed to love all things Fleetwood Mac prior to 1990, yet abhor what the band has relegated itself to since. It's possible to avidly look forward to new studio work from the band, but eschew all quickie cash grab tours.

Fandom is like a buffet: we all pick out different things we like and feast ourselves on them. We also all have things we don't care for and wish weren't present so that something better could take up it's valuable real estate. :)

[jbrownsjr]

I don't see why everything has to be black & white and mutually exclusive. I am still allowed to love all things Fleetwood Mac prior to 1990, yet abhor what the band has relegated itself to since. It's possible to avidly look forward to new studio work from the band, but eschew all quickie cash grab tours.

Fandom is like a buffet: we all pick out different things we like and feast ourselves on them. We also all have things we don't care for and wish weren't present so that something better could take up it's valuable real estate. :)

I like real estate!! lol

[MacShadowsBall]

I remember this thread from back in Sept of last year that elle posted. It seems revelent given the last developments.

http://www.billboard.com/events/fleetwood-mac-returning-for-2012-tour-1005350092.story#/events/fleetwood-mac-returning-for-2012-tour-1005350092.story