Indy Cancelled

[sara1998]

Just confirmed with the venue that the show is canceled. I won't buy more tickets if she ever schedules here again. Her management must not think we're important enough to keep us on the schedule.

[mezzoforte]

Maria, I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you and your daughter get a chance to hear her soon, but this must be a huge blow.

[Mac Attack]

Sorry to hear this. What a downer, three days from the show.
I don't know why they couldn't re-schedule. The logistics wouldn't be easy but not impossible.

[Travis]

I really don’t get this. Instead of moving the Atlanta show up 2 days (not much notice for fans), it should have just been re-scheduled for the end of the tour (still annoying but certainly enough time to let fans plan accordingly) and just keep Indy in tact. Nothing that hasn’t already been said, but I feel the frustration.

[fumidesigns]

Just confirmed with the venue that the show is canceled. I won't buy more tickets if she ever schedules here again. Her management must not think we're important enough to keep us on the schedule.

wow! i'm sorry to hear this. must be because of that accident they had there. was she even playing at the same venue?

*hugs* to you!

[sara1998]

The stage incident happened at the fair. Not the same venue.

[fumidesigns]

The stage incident happened at the fair. Not the same venue.

oh dayum. sorry love.

[Regina]

I'm so sorry. I am so not a fan of her management or whoever booked this tour. They've made incredibly stupid moves and cost a lot of people a lot of money (not to mention heartbreak).
And, they've broken trust. It's just too much of a risk to buy a ticket out of state to get stuck with the cost of hotels/airfare, etc.

[gypsy4life]

This would have been my first time seeing her.....I hope she gets better soon...too bad all the way around

[KarmaContestant]

So sorry, guys! What a bummer, for sure. Maybe the show will be rescheduled later?

[HejiraNYC]

I'm sorry if I am sounding unsympathetic, but: GET OVER IT. Seriously. Yes, it's a bummer. Yes, it has messed up people's schedules and/or bank accounts. But that's life- full of unexpected turns of events (which is why they invented travel insurance). There's no need to take it all so personally and to point fingers in blame. Make lemonade out of lemons. Given Stevie's recent history, buying tickets to any show is a bit of a crapshoot, let alone a show that involves airplanes and hotels. I would rather Stevie cancel a show than to have her stressing out over giving a sh*tty, less-than-100% performance. I'm sure she feels bad about this, perhaps more than y'all ever will. Nobody wins here, especially if y'all harbor a grudge.

BTW, I have had three Stevie cancellations this year alone.

[sara1998]

I'm sorry if I am sounding unsympathetic, but: GET OVER IT. Seriously. Yes, it's a bummer. Yes, it has messed up people's schedules and/or bank accounts. But that's life- full of unexpected turns of events. There's no need to take it all so personally and to point fingers in blame. Make lemonade out of lemons. Given Stevie's recent history, buying tickets to any show is a bit of a crapshoot, let alone a show that involves airplanes and hotels. I would rather Stevie cancel a show than to have her stressing out over giving a sh*tty, less-than-100% performance. I'm sure she feels bad about this, perhaps more than y'all ever will. Nobody wins here, especially if y'all harbor a grudge.

BTW, I have had three Stevie cancellations this year alone.

Not all of us can afford 3 cancellations. Have fun at one of your shows.

[wheart]

I'm sorry if I am sounding unsympathetic, but: GET OVER IT. Seriously. Yes, it's a bummer. Yes, it has messed up people's schedules and/or bank accounts. But that's life- full of unexpected turns of events (which is why they invented travel insurance). There's no need to take it all so personally and to point fingers in blame. Make lemonade out of lemons. Given Stevie's recent history, buying tickets to any show is a bit of a crapshoot, let alone a show that involves airplanes and hotels. I would rather Stevie cancel a show than to have her stressing out over giving a sh*tty, less-than-100% performance. I'm sure she feels bad about this, perhaps more than y'all ever will. Nobody wins here, especially if y'all harbor a grudge.

BTW, I have had three Stevie cancellations this year alone.

And what would a Stevie tour be without cancellations??

[tabruns]

I had a cancellation during her Trouble In Shangri-La tour, and a postponed date during the Fleetwood Mac Behind The Mask tour (that latter one was kind of funny....they were supposed to play Sat night but postponed it to Sun night. Sunday night they played and the band was baffled that the crowd was somewhat muted....well the crowd was muted cuz it was *Sunday night*...everyone had to work the next day! lol).

[fumidesigns]

WELL DAYUM! Ed has spoken honey!

[melacine]

I'm sorry if I am sounding unsympathetic, but: GET OVER IT. Seriously.


Wow, that's a bit harsh don't you think? A lot of people are out of money (myself included) and very disappointed at the last minute cancellation. I don't think it's too much to want to vent to fellow fans about it.

[sara1998]

Wow, that's a bit harsh don't you think? A lot of people are out of money (myself included) and very disappointed at the last minute cancellation. I don't think it's too much to want to vent to fellow fans about it.

Considering she canceled Indy during TISL as well. It feels a bit personal.

[HejiraNYC]

[QUOTE=HejiraNYC;1007368]I'm sorry if I am sounding unsympathetic, but: GET OVER IT. Seriously. QUOTE]


Wow, that's a bit harsh don't you think? A lot of people are out of money (myself included) and very disappointed at the last minute cancellation. I don't think it's too much to want to vent to fellow fans about it.

I think venting is one thing (and very understandable), but it's another thing to accuse people of bad intentions. And even if the show was canceled due to poor ticket sales (which didn't appear to be the case last time I checked), that's their prerogative. Sometimes it's up to circumstances that are simply beyond Stevie's personal control.

Again, sorry if I am sounding unsympathetic. But I have been there, trust me.

[fumidesigns]

Wow, that's a bit harsh don't you think? A lot of people are out of money (myself included) and very disappointed at the last minute cancellation. I don't think it's too much to want to vent to fellow fans about it.

i understand both of your point of views. it sucks a show got canceled but that's life guys. s-h-_-t happens ya know? i am happy, yet sadden, to report that webster hall was my very first cancellation!

[Macfanforever]

To come to think about.Did Stevie cancel out of any of the last Casino tours in the past few years including the FM unleashed tour,CV tour.Not last Mays shows.plus the Heart and Soul tour not included.

I'm wondering if the outside shows are the problem for her.

[Macfanforever]

i understand both of your point of views. it sucks a show got canceled but that's life guys. s-h-_-t happens ya know? i am happy, yet sadden, to report that webster hall was my very first cancellation!

I agree .Yes I'm still alittle ticked about the Webster/AC show.and NOT rescheduled.Stevie's human too.

[SapphireSister]

I feel for you guys and am so sorry for the disappointment but things could be a lot worse. You or a loved one could have been standing under the stage that collapsed at the state fair. Now that would suck.

[fumidesigns]

I agree .Yes I'm still alittle ticked about the Webster/AC show.and NOT rescheduled.Stevie's human too.

yeah but what can our girl do!? like seriously....she's 63, has given the world herself time and time again. i would be heartbroken, AGAIN, if she cancels JB but i would also totally understand! health before music guys! what hurts more here? her not doing a show or her not being here anymore!?

i need her to be healthy! that's all i pray....let this lil woman be healthy!

oh and *looks up to God* please let her do JB!!!!

[HejiraNYC]

To come to think about.Did Stevie cancel out of any of the last Casino tours in the past few years including the FM unleashed tour,CV tour.Not last Mays shows.plus the Heart and Soul tour not included.

I'm wondering if the outside shows are the problem for her.

There were a handful of cancellations for Unleashed- I think they were somewhere in the West. All I remember with certainty is that when FM came back from the cancellations (Tacoma? Vancouver?), Stevie sounded dreadful. Admittedly there were a number of other shows throughout the tour in which she seemed to be under the weather.

[Macfanforever]

Wow, that's a bit harsh don't you think? A lot of people are out of money (myself included) and very disappointed at the last minute cancellation. I don't think it's too much to want to vent to fellow fans about it.

All of us are in the same boat.Stevie knows that some fans come from out of state. at lease give a better notice for the travelers like most and probably the whole ledge board are travelers.

[Regina]

What is wrong with venting hours after you hear an announcement that something you had been looking forward to for months is cancelled?

No one is pointing a finger at Stevie.

I remember a few months ago, people were A LOT more sympathetic when the Webster Hall thing was cancelled. I don't believe I read one "get over it" back then. What changed?

[Macfanforever]

I feel for you guys and am so sorry for the disappointment but things could be a lot worse. You or a loved one could have been standing under the stage that collapsed at the state fair. Now that would suck.

I agree on that one.I'm a Sugarland fan too.I could be dead too if I traveled the fair tours.

[Macfanforever]

yeah but what can our girl do!? like seriously....she's 63, has given the world herself time and time again. i would be heartbroken, AGAIN, if she cancels JB but i would also totally understand! health before music guys! what hurts more here? her not doing a show or her not being here anymore!?

i need her to be healthy! that's all i pray....let this lil woman be healthy!

oh and *looks up to God* please let her do JB!!!!

I agree.100 percent on her health.

[fumidesigns]

What is wrong with venting hours after you hear an announcement that something you had been looking forward to for months is cancelled?

No one is pointing a finger at Stevie.

I remember a few months ago, people were A LOT more sympathetic when the Webster Hall thing was cancelled. I don't believe I read one "get over it" back then. What changed?

oh so you don't recall the ppl that were like "if you couldn't afford it you shouldnt have paid for a ticket"?

look.....i understand all points of views on this but THIS IS LIFE WE'RE LIVING and s__ happens. he didn't mean anything by it.

*sigh* oh god.......i think this thread is gonna take a nasty turn.....

[vivfox]

Stevie's human too.


She is????

[Macfanforever]

There were a handful of cancellations for Unleashed- I think they were somewhere in the West. All I remember with certainty is that when FM came back from the cancellations (Tacoma? Vancouver?), Stevie sounded dreadful. Admittedly there were a number of other shows throughout the tour in which she seemed to be under the weather.

Thanks Ed.I forgot about that.

[PastelGravel]

There were a handful of cancellations for Unleashed- I think they were somewhere in the West. All I remember with certainty is that when FM came back from the cancellations (Tacoma? Vancouver?), Stevie sounded dreadful. Admittedly there were a number of other shows throughout the tour in which she seemed to be under the weather.

I was at both those shows...no cancellations there. Stevie was awesome.

[glamorousnymph]

Wow, that's a bit harsh don't you think? A lot of people are out of money (myself included) and very disappointed at the last minute cancellation. I don't think it's too much to want to vent to fellow fans about it.

Wait a minute. Do you mean there is no refund for canceled show?

[Josh2003]

I remember a few months ago, people were A LOT more sympathetic when the Webster Hall thing was cancelled. I don't believe I read one "get over it" back then. What changed?

Exactly! :nod:

[Eugene]

"Illness" has become LiveNationspeak for "we didn't sell enough tickets and we're going to lose money if this show happens".

Went through the same thing with Elvis Costello @ The Borgata last month.

[Macfanforever]

Wait a minute. Do you mean there is no refund for canceled show?

No problem getting concert ticket refund.but the travel expense.Gas.Tolls,Plane.Train.Hotel .No

[HejiraNYC]

What is wrong with venting hours after you hear an announcement that something you had been looking forward to for months is cancelled?

No one is pointing a finger at Stevie.

I remember a few months ago, people were A LOT more sympathetic when the Webster Hall thing was cancelled. I don't believe I read one "get over it" back then. What changed?

But fingers were being pointed at the management and the promoters. Are they responsible? Who knows. :shrug: The fact is that people vented about Webster without swearing off Stevie forever or blaming people. In essence, people got over it.

[WelshWitchPMD]

Melacine and Maria I am so sorry that your show got canceled. I was one of the Webster Hall crew and while I know she was sick I'm still somewhat bitter about it. I just wanted to chime in and show my support. Melacine, I am a big fan of your blog by the way.

[glamorousnymph]

No problem getting concert ticket refund.but the travel expense.Gas.Tolls,Plane.Train.Hotel .No

Ah, I see. I live in New England and have never had to "travel" to a concert, so that didn't occur to me.

[daniellaaarisen]

This is making me pretty damn nervous about flying back east to see her again...

[PastelGravel]

This is making me pretty damn nervous about flying back east to see her again...

Me too but we just gotta believe all will be ok. 2 weeks tomorrow until my concert in NY...

Sending love to all who are missing Indy :(

[sara1998]

I found good seats to Cincy, but I don't know if she's going to cancel or not. Not real sure what to do.

[daniellaaarisen]

I found good seats to Cincy, but I don't know if she's going to cancel or not. Not real sure what to do.

I'd buy them -- worse situation, she cancels and you get a full refund. I don't think she's going to cancel that show unless she cancels Atlanta too.

[Macfanforever]

A long time ago probably back in the 80's .I came up with a rule about traveling distance.Its the 300 mile radius
rule.I'm in Connecticut which is the best place to be right in the middle of the action.I know 300 miles dont get me anywhere.So if things like cancelations happen which did happen a few times .I just have to write off the gas and tolls,hotel..but I would love to travel like you guys to go see her.Will rules are made to get broken.

[Macfanforever]

I found good seats to Cincy, but I don't know if she's going to cancel or not. Not real sure what to do.

I wonder if Livenation will or could transfer the money from the canceled show to the next good show.

[Macfanforever]

No problem getting concert ticket refund.but the travel expense.Gas.Tolls,Plane.Train.Hotel .No

Oops I forgot Bus.

[tabruns]

"Illness" has become LiveNationspeak for "we didn't sell enough tickets and we're going to lose money if this show happens".

Went through the same thing with Elvis Costello @ The Borgata last month.

I thought Stevie had sold about 80% of the seats?

[Morgana]

There were a handful of cancellations for Unleashed- I think they were somewhere in the West. All I remember with certainty is that when FM came back from the cancellations (Tacoma? Vancouver?), Stevie sounded dreadful. Admittedly there were a number of other shows throughout the tour in which she seemed to be under the weather.

I was really bummed when Greensboro, NC was cancelled during the Unleashed Tour, one of the few Mid-Atlantic concerts. But, alas, Stevie has always had fragile health and this is nothing new. I think the frustrating aspect off all of this is her management isn't communicating to her fans more effectively as to what is happening.

[Livia]

I've known since the Mirage tour - "Plan at Your Own Risk." No matter where I travel or why, I always book on Southwest, since they always give full credit that can be used in the future. If Southwest doesn't fly there, then I wouldn't consider going. And yes, I've had shows cancelled on me after I've already flown somewhere the day before. It sucked. I got over it. I didn't blame Stevie or her management. I just said to a co-worker this morning, "I'm glad I went to Houston because now she's sick and postponed Atlanta." Sad but true, it wouldn't be a Stevie tour unless she got sick.

The stage collapse was tragic, but I would bet my entire SN/Mac collection that it has NOTHING to do with Stevie cancelling Indy.

[Eugene]

I thought Stevie had sold about 80% of the seats?

I was referring to Indianapolis.

[HejiraNYC]

I've known since the Mirage tour - "Plan at Your Own Risk." No matter where I travel or why, I always book on Southwest, since they always give full credit that can be used in the future. If Southwest doesn't fly there, then I wouldn't consider going. And yes, I've had shows cancelled on me after I've already flown somewhere the day before. It sucked. I got over it. I didn't blame Stevie or her management. I just said to a co-worker this morning, "I'm glad I went to Houston because now she's sick and postponed Atlanta." Sad but true, it wouldn't be a Stevie tour unless she got sick.

The stage collapse was tragic, but I would bet my entire SN/Mac collection that it has NOTHING to do with Stevie cancelling Indy.


Whenever I travel for Stevie or FM, I always make sure to have a Plan B, which is basically stuff I would do on vacation- the beach, a hike, another show, etc. Sometimes it really is about the journey as much as the destination. Everything happens for a reason, so there really is nothing you can do about it but make the best of it.

[paleshadow]

Just confirmed with the venue that the show is canceled. I won't buy more tickets if she ever schedules here again. Her management must not think we're important enough to keep us on the schedule.

Sorry your show got canceled. I'd be disappointed if it was canceled just because she was sick, but to cancel a show I was going to in order to make up a previously canceled show somewhere else is kind of crappy in my opinion, so I can understand how you feel.

[fumidesigns]

Yeah that's what I thought! Knock it off!

[vivfox]

I've known since the Mirage tour -


I was thinking about this earlier, how she gets sick on every tour, beginning on the 1982 tour.

[Livia]

Whenever I travel for Stevie or FM, I always make sure to have a Plan B, which is basically stuff I would do on vacation- the beach, a hike, another show, etc. Sometimes it really is about the journey as much as the destination. Everything happens for a reason, so there really is nothing you can do about it but make the best of it.

Yep - as someone who LOVES to travel...I put aside some cash each month for my "future travel fun fund," for whatever/whenever. I've purposely gone to shows in cities I've never previously visited - arrive a day or two before the concert and go site-seeing. The concert is just the icing on the cake...

[sara1998]

I bought 9th row center to Cincy. God, I hope she doesn't cancel this one.

[PastelGravel]

Yep - as someone who LOVES to travel...I put aside some cash each month for my "future travel fun fund," for whatever/whenever. I've purposely gone to shows in cities I've never previously visited - arrive a day or two before the concert and go site-seeing. The concert is just the icing on the cake...

That's pretty much how I'm looking at it. When would I go to NYC under normal circumstances? Will be great.

I really want this show to happen though, never been 2nd row before...crossing fingers and toes.

[MacMan]

There were a handful of cancellations for Unleashed- I think they were somewhere in the West. All I remember with certainty is that when FM came back from the cancellations (Tacoma? Vancouver?), Stevie sounded dreadful. Admittedly there were a number of other shows throughout the tour in which she seemed to be under the weather.

They postponed Edmonton and Calgary in Canada 5/12 & 5/13 2009 because of illness (Stevie) but played Vancouver on 5/15. I'm sure they would have postponed that show too.. but that show grossed one of the largest amounts on the tour. She did look a bit rough that night. Then played Tacoma and 5/16 and on the day of the show in Sacramento 5/18 - they initially postponed the show - but it was later cancelled.

The tour was initially supposed to end 6/20 in New Orleans but they tacked on the rescheduled Edmonton 6/23 and Calgary 6/24 shows likely because they were high grossing dates and it's hard to give that up otherwise how do you justify driving your trucks from New Orleans all the way up to western Canada.

These postponed vs cancelled shows are all about money. If the money is there to make it feasible... they'll work our a rescheduled date.. but if it's not worth going from a business point of view.. they'll just cancel.

[MacMan]

Cincinatti is what about 100 miles away?.. There are still some seats left in Cincinatti... Not great one, but that's an option if you can swing it.

[mezzoforte]

Whenever I travel for Stevie or FM, I always make sure to have a Plan B, which is basically stuff I would do on vacation- the beach, a hike, another show, etc. Sometimes it really is about the journey as much as the destination. Everything happens for a reason, so there really is nothing you can do about it but make the best of it.

Agreed. I haven't been doing this long, but I've already learned not to fly for Stevie unless I would be okay if she delayed/canceled. Unless I know people there and could find other fun things to do there, it's just not worth the risk. We all know that this is hardly unheard of for Stevie, and should plan with the awareness that illness is always a strong possibility.
Cancellations will always be a huge disappointment, but the stakes don't have to be so high.

[BellaSoprano71]

The stage incident happened at the fair. Not the same venue.

This used to be Deer Creek and it is a venue...not a "setup" stage....this happened to me on the TISL tour..... :( :(

[Blueletter18]

I bought 9th row center to Cincy. God, I hope she doesn't cancel this one.

I've got good seats for Cinci too, and it's a 6 hour drive for me-and the weekend before the fall semester begins... Wow, I sure hope it's not cancelled or postponed!

[Regina]

But fingers were being pointed at the management and the promoters. Are they responsible? Who knows. :shrug: The fact is that people vented about Webster without swearing off Stevie forever or blaming people. In essence, people got over it.

OK-I was totally the one who blamed management so I'll explain my reasoning.
Stevie has always had health problems with outdoor venues. So, what did they do? They booked nearly 20 shows with nearly all of them (I believe) outdoors. They smooshed the schedule so it takes place within the time span of a month. And, they booked such an incredible amount of press in between that it would be hard for anyone to not get sick. I think I wrote all this out before and edited way too much.
63 is not that old but, given the fact that Stevie no longer lives this fast-paced life all year-long, it's too much.
They just should have taken some of that into account.
And, I was more or less talking about me not willing to travel long distances.
But, although I'm not willing to do the traveling I once did (and I don't encourage anyone else one way or the other), I'm definitely not writing her off by any stretch of the imagination.

[JamieK]

Sorry for the let down about the cancelled show! I hope you can all get to see another one somehow ... and to J who just lost his mom ... keep the memories alive, she would want you to be happy!

[CADreaming]

OK-I was totally the one who blamed management so I'll explain my reasoning.
Stevie has always had health problems with outdoor venues. So, what did they do? They booked nearly 20 shows with nearly all of them (I believe) outdoors. They smooshed the schedule so it takes place within the time span of a month. And, they booked such an incredible amount of press in between that it would be hard for anyone to not get sick. I think I wrote all this out before and edited way too much.
63 is not that old but, given the fact that Stevie no longer lives this fast-paced life all year-long, it's too much.
They just should have taken some of that into account.


I understand you're point and really hate this happened. But, it's not all management's fault either as far as these bookings / schedules go. Stevie cannot sell in an arena as a headliner. She herself said she told her management to book her for the shed tour this summer and that she was intentionally over extending herself in order to promote her album. She got a late summer start to even do those shows so they had no choice but to schedule them all into August.

She is a self-proclaimed workaholic and if it means helping the bottom line, if Stevie says yes then her people are going to gladly make those schedules. I don't know how it all works now, but they probably have "interview days" set up where that's all you do that day and truthfully I would want to get those over with so I could spend the rest of the week doing something else. They never make her do more than 2 concerts in a row. So she should be ok there. She mentioned in an interview that she does what it takes to prepare for her schedules - flying in early to get adjusted to time zones and to have enough time to rest, even taking sleeping pills to make sure she does sleep.

Stevie is a powerful woman and can put her foot down if she chooses. She didn't want to and it may have gotten to her a little. She'll bounce back. I'm just sorry any shows were canceled/postponed.

[DavidMn]

Oops I forgot Bus.

I was wondering when you'd show me some respect!:laugh:

[charmed forever]

This is really disappointing. The second show she's cancelled in Indy. TISL was understandable, and even this is understandable on a health standpoint--her health comes first. That being said, it looks really bad that she can reschedule the Atlanta show and leave Indy fans in the dust. I'll always love Stevie, and I understand that she is indeed volatile on her tour presence, but this is a bit of a slap in the face. I guess I just need some time to "get over it."

[DavidMn]

I bought 9th row center to Cincy. God, I hope she doesn't cancel this one.
Are you taking your daughter?

[Macfanforever]

I was wondering when you'd show me some respect!:laugh:

I'm sorry David.

[Livia]

No one's singling out Indianapolis as THE city to cancel - it's just an unfortunate coincidence.

Stevie has always had tour-related health problems. I don't believe they are specific to outdoor venues. I'm tellin' ya, she needs to use a Neti pot, dammit! :rolleyes:

CADreaming said everything else I was gonna say. :p

Sidebar - my other all-time favorite performer, Butch Walker, just announced his tour dates today. And once again, there is not ONE single city booked west of the Mississippi River. The closest show he's got to Texas is Nashville. Of course, it's the same weekend I'm seeing Dolly Parton here and Lindsey Buckingham in Houston. Instead of being a Bitter Betty and blaming his management for not scheduling his shows to suit ME and MY needs - I look at it as an opportunity for another adventure. Cleveland perhaps? I've never been there, and would love to visit the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum.

[The Catdancer]

This is really disappointing. The second show she's cancelled in Indy. TISL was understandable, and even this is understandable on a health standpoint--her health comes first. That being said, it looks really bad that she can reschedule the Atlanta show and leave Indy fans in the dust. I'll always love Stevie, and I understand that she is indeed volatile on her tour presence, but this is a bit of a slap in the face. I guess I just need some time to "get over it."

She has left the Pacific NW in the dust for ages, she never comes here.

Sorry about the cancellation, it must suck to have tix and be all excited but when she's sick there's not much anybody can do. I hope she feels better soon!

[SuiteShangriLa]

No one's singling out Indianapolis as THE city to cancel - it's just an unfortunate coincidence.

Stevie has always had tour-related health problems. I don't believe they are specific to outdoor venues. I'm tellin' ya, she needs to use a Neti pot, dammit! :rolleyes:

CADreaming said everything else I was gonna say. :p

Sidebar - my other all-time favorite performer, Butch Walker, just announced his tour dates today. And once again, there is not ONE single city booked west of the Mississippi River. The closest show he's got to Texas is Nashville. Of course, it's the same weekend I'm seeing Dolly Parton here and Lindsey Buckingham in Houston. Instead of being a Bitter Betty and blaming his management for not scheduling his shows to suit ME and MY needs - I look at it as an opportunity for another adventure. Cleveland perhaps? I've never been there, and would love to visit the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum.

:sorry:
off topic...but, any idea how much tickets for Butch Walker will be in CLEV? :lol:
i wanna go!

[Livia]

Yay, another Butch fan! I ADORE HIM!! His tickets are usually no more than $20-25. Do you know anything about the Beachland Ballroom? He usually plays tiny venues. I love the Exit/In (Nashville) and The Social (Orlando).

[sara1998]

Are you taking your daughter?

Thanks for asking, David! Yes, this will be her first Stevie show. She's only been begging for 10 years now. haha!

[SuiteShangriLa]

Yay, another Butch fan! I ADORE HIM!! His tickets are usually no more than $20-25. Do you know anything about the Beachland Ballroom? He usually plays tiny venues. I love the Exit/In (Nashville) and The Social (Orlando).

ive never been there, shame on me. but from what i hear, its pretty small. like, high school auditorium small! cant wait to get his new cd Spades. from what ive heard so far i sounds awesome! if his tickets are that cheap im going for sure!

[DavidMn]

Thanks for asking, David! Yes, this will be her first Stevie show. She's only been begging for 10 years now. haha!ll be there too. I would love to meet you and your daughter!:thumbsup:

[sara1998]

ll be there too. I would love to meet you and your daughter!:thumbsup:

I'm sure we'll all meet up!

[fringed n fab]

Ok so I don't have to catch up reading a million pages, what is going on with Stevie? Is she ok? Gonna be ok?

[Livia]

ive never been there, shame on me. but from what i hear, its pretty small. like, high school auditorium small! cant wait to get his new cd Spades. from what ive heard so far i sounds awesome! if his tickets are that cheap im going for sure!

The wallpaper on my home computer is a pic of me kissing Butch on the cheek. :) I'm talking REALLY tiny venues, way smaller than a high school auditorium. Places that only hold about 200-250. Looks like the Beachland has a ballroom and a tavern side - they both have live music. I hope Butch is on the Tavern side. Tix go on sale this Friday. I've only heard "Summer of 1989" so far - waiting 'til I get the whole enchilada. I pre-ordered package #3, with the vinyl, t-shirt and playing cards.

[CADreaming]

Ok so I don't have to catch up reading a million pages, what is going on with Stevie? Is she ok? Gonna be ok?

I don't think anyone knows what's going on, just speculation. I'm counting on the show on Wednesday.

[tabruns]

I was referring to Indianapolis.

Yes, and so was I. Actually the latest I saw was 90% of the seats sold out.

[fringed n fab]

I don't think anyone knows what's going on, just speculation. I'm counting on the show on Wednesday.

Ah I see... we all worry about her and her pushing herself I'm sure. Hope she's ok and feels better soon and takes care of herself.

[CADreaming]

Ah I see... we all worry about her and her pushing herself I'm sure. Hope she's ok and feels better soon and takes care of herself.

I know! I wish she would pace herself more if that would help.

[fumidesigns]

I know! I wish she would pace herself more if that would help.

Do u guys think it's less of a strain when she's with the boys?

[fringed n fab]

Do u guys think it's less of a strain when she's with the boys?

No not really. Traveling and the road and shows nightly would get to a 20 year old after long. So I can imagine what she must feel like at her age. She's forever our timeless Stevie, but she's not 27 anymore and can't take on tours like that today. She has to think of herself and take care of herself. :) I just don't want the business to overrun her.

[MacMan]

Actually travelling now-a-days on tour at her level is probably pretty easy, it's not like us everyday people who have to do all the leg work for travel ourselves... All that is done for her. She flies private, she has a driver in every city to get her where she needs to be, a tour manager to watch over the schedule and keep things rolling who likely makes sure people are where they are supposed to be for her. She doesn't do her own schlepping of luggage or checking into hotels, that's all done for her... All the personal scheduling stuff is done by her assistant for the most part.

What would be taxing and stressful is that time before a show when she says she has a little stage fright and nervousness that goes away once she's on stage.. That part, even though it's nervousness, is really stress on the system. Then the show. 2 hours on stage giving it her all... She probably boards her plane right after the show for the next city and unwinds... That part would be the taxing part the constant up and down of adrenaline... The travel part would be a piece of cake... Time zones and the not being in one place long enough to really relax would get to you too.

[CADreaming]

Actually travelling now-a-days on tour at her level is probably pretty easy, it's not like us everyday people who have to do all the leg work for travel ourselves... All that is done for her. She flies private, she has a driver in every city to get her where she needs to be, a tour manager to watch over the schedule and keep things rolling who likely makes sure people are where they are supposed to be for her. She doesn't do her own schlepping of luggage or checking into hotels, that's all done for her... All the personal scheduling stuff is done by her assistant for the most part.

What would be taxing and stressful is that time before a show when she says she has a little stage fright and nervousness that goes away once she's on stage.. That part, even though it's nervousness, is really stress on the system. Then the show. 2 hours on stage giving it her all... She probably boards her plane right after the show for the next city and unwinds... That part would be the taxing part the constant up and down of adrenaline... The travel part would be a piece of cake... Time zones and the not being in one place long enough to really relax would get to you too.

Exactly. And, I have friends her age who have a lot more trouble sleeping. So, that could really be a problem for her and add to the strain on her physically and cause her to get more run down.

[carrie721]

The wallpaper on my home computer is a pic of me kissing Butch on the cheek. :) I'm talking REALLY tiny venues, way smaller than a high school auditorium. Places that only hold about 200-250. Looks like the Beachland has a ballroom and a tavern side - they both have live music. I hope Butch is on the Tavern side. Tix go on sale this Friday. I've only heard "Summer of 1989" so far - waiting 'til I get the whole enchilada. I pre-ordered package #3, with the vinyl, t-shirt and playing cards.

re: beachland, since the numbers band is playing that night, i would guess he is on the ballroom side. it's still an intimate setting, though. and if you do go, check out the end of the numbers band set -- they are local legends.

[jannieC]

A few hours in Red Rocks and I felt like *I* was pushing 63. Dancing (swaying, really) in FLATS and walking around the venue gave me the most painful muscle pains in my calves for <i>days</i>. Just sayin'. :shrug:

[Hawkeye]

There was one recent extensive tour where she made it the whole tour without a single cancellation or postponment. I'm obviously not counting the 2010 "Not a Tour" tour since it was just six shows. I want to say her whole 2005 Two Voices/Gold Dust Tours went off without any cancellations. And I think the 2007 Crystal Visions tour was the same. Correct me if I'm wrong if anyone was personally effected by a cancelled show or just remembers. I also can't remember the SYW tour getting cancelled at any point. And if thats true thats impressive since that was 135 shows.

TISL was probably the worst health related Stevie tour. Even shows she didnt cancell, it was so obvious she was singing sick. Unleashed had many cancelled shows too, but I'm thinking 2003-2008 was a rare 5 year healthy period for Stevie.

[Livia]

re: beachland, since the numbers band is playing that night, i would guess he is on the ballroom side. it's still an intimate setting, though. and if you do go, check out the end of the numbers band set -- they are local legends.

I resurrected the Butch thread in Chit Chat - presale and meet/greet packages go on sale tomorrow!

Thanks for the info, but I think I'm gonna go to FL for Halloween and the last show. :D

[TwistedGypsy]

I do believe that Butch and Lindsey are playing the same night here in Atlanta. There is no choice for me but I would love to see Butch again.

No one's singling out Indianapolis as THE city to cancel - it's just an unfortunate coincidence.

Stevie has always had tour-related health problems. I don't believe they are specific to outdoor venues. I'm tellin' ya, she needs to use a Neti pot, dammit! :rolleyes:

CADreaming said everything else I was gonna say. :p

Sidebar - my other all-time favorite performer, Butch Walker, just announced his tour dates today. And once again, there is not ONE single city booked west of the Mississippi River. The closest show he's got to Texas is Nashville. Of course, it's the same weekend I'm seeing Dolly Parton here and Lindsey Buckingham in Houston. Instead of being a Bitter Betty and blaming his management for not scheduling his shows to suit ME and MY needs - I look at it as an opportunity for another adventure. Cleveland perhaps? I've never been there, and would love to visit the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum.

[fringed n fab]

Neti pot? Never even heard of one till I looked it up. She put her entire face down in a vaporizer years ago so I'm sure she's aware of similar techniques. I just want her to take care of herself on this tour.

[LilyRose]

Neti pot? Never even heard of one till I looked it up. She put her entire face down in a vaporizer years ago so I'm sure she's aware of similar techniques. I just want her to take care of herself on this tour.

LMAO!

And every time I use the Neti Pot I feel like I just waterboarded myself, but damn if it doesn't work.

[darklinensuit]

I'm guessing the big-leather-don't-you-people-touch-my-soft-Steviehands-directly-gloves will make their return for the Edgewalk once the tour resumes.

Sorry for the fans of Indiana who got thrown down...again. :(

- Jake

[TwistedGypsy]

LMAO!

And every time I use the Neti Pot I feel like I just waterboarded myself, but damn if it doesn't work.

My dad has been telling me to get one and after hearing about it on here I am going to get one today. I've had this crud for over a week and I'm afraid if I keep coughing and hacking my man gonna leave me! :rolleyes:

[AnthonyMI]

Neti Pot is AMAZING! It is literally like douching your face. You feel fresh and can breathe and smell, and it gets rid of all the dust and congestion in your sinuses. We should all pitch in and get Stevie a nice one

[Mac Attack]

Do u guys think it's less of a strain when she's with the boys?

Heck yeah, I do. Stevie doesn't have to bust it out on every song of the set. She gets to rest on some songs and the solos.

[sara1998]

Neti Pot is AMAZING! It is literally like douching your face. You feel fresh and can breathe and smell, and it gets rid of all the dust and congestion in your sinuses. We should all pitch in and get Stevie a nice one

I spit soda on this one! Lol!!! I use one too. I'm the sinus infection queen, and they help tremendously. About to go to the doctor in just a few minutes because I have a sinus infection right now! Haha!

[fumidesigns]

Heck yeah, I do. Stevie doesn't have to bust it out on every song of the set. She gets to rest on some songs and the solos.

she needs to do that more then. i'm sure they probably work her nerves lol, but she can't keep putting this strain on herself and then canceling dates. it's not good for her and not good for us.

maybe only smaller venues....

maybe, and i hate to say this, don't tour at all..........*dodges bullets*

[ontheEdgeof17]

maybe, and i hate to say this, don't tour at all..........*dodges bullets*

I love her touring, but I kinda agree.

Maybe do 10-20 shows a year....here and there....and not bunched all together in a month. She could rest her voice and have longer setlists and a bigger crowd draw.

[fumidesigns]

I love her touring, but I kinda agree.

Maybe do 10-20 shows a year....here and there....and not bunched all together in a month. She could rest her voice and have longer setlists and a bigger crowd draw.

true true true! :nod:

and after i said all that..............there goes the JB thread!

[mezzoforte]

I hope she continues to tour--she does, after all, love to perform. She shouldn't work a schedule like this again, though. This has clearly been a huge strain on her immune system, and at her age, any viruses she picks up could become very serious, very quickly.
I'm sure spreading out a tour would be far more expensive and I obviously don't know the financial implications, but I hope her health will be top priority going forward. She probably shouldn't be performing two nights in a row, let alone three.

[Macfanforever]

The last minute on the fly tour planning got to stop.If her people plan a tour normally
like other artists.Book a 6 months to a year ahead of time to get better nights like weekends and spread out the dates .This will make it better for Stevie and also the fans.

[gypsy4life]

I don't understand why the people who hooked these shows crammed them all so closely...I don't care what age you are..this would be tiring...she's a legend...she shouldn't have to beat the pavement like a twenty year old....I mean she is like the field of dreams....let her play somewhere...and they will come!!!

[Macfanforever]

I don't understand why the people who hooked these shows crammed them all so closely...I don't care what age you are..this would be tiring...she's a legend...she shouldn't have to beat the pavement like a twenty year old....I mean she is like the field of dreams....let her play somewhere...and they will come!!!

I agree 100 percent.No need to crammed concert tour.I can see they benefit on save money be keeping the trucks and the roadies on the road for a short month then taking the timedoing a tour for 3 months.Ya save money,In the meantime the artist gets sick because of rushing around with alittle recoup time..The lady is 63 years old .give her a break.

[mystical1]

Stevie has always had tour-related health problems. I don't believe they are specific to outdoor venues. I'm tellin' ya, she needs to use a Neti pot, dammit! :rolleyes:

ROFL:laugh: good one!!:D


Actually travelling now-a-days on tour at her level is probably pretty easy, it's not like us everyday people who have to do all the leg work for travel ourselves... All that is done for her. She flies private, she has a driver in every city to get her where she needs to be, a tour manager to watch over the schedule and keep things rolling who likely makes sure people are where they are supposed to be for her. She doesn't do her own schlepping of luggage or checking into hotels, that's all done for her... All the personal scheduling stuff is done by her assistant for the most part.

What would be taxing and stressful is that time before a show when she says she has a little stage fright and nervousness that goes away once she's on stage.. That part, even though it's nervousness, is really stress on the system. Then the show. 2 hours on stage giving it her all... She probably boards her plane right after the show for the next city and unwinds... That part would be the taxing part the constant up and down of adrenaline... The travel part would be a piece of cake... Time zones and the not being in one place long enough to really relax would get to you too.

Seriously??? read all that is below here...you be 63 years old and have to wear high heeled boots and dance around a stage for 2 hours a night..night after night..in a different bed, different city..it takes it toll...and regardless whether somebody is doing everything for her or not..unless they are physically picking her up and carrying her or she is in a wheel chair its gotta be hard to do all that and then walk ...have you ever watched how she is when she comes off stage?? she has help...you can tell its hard for her...give the poor woman a break..im amazed she is doing as well as she is

No not really. Traveling and the road and shows nightly would get to a 20 year old after long. So I can imagine what she must feel like at her age. She's forever our timeless Stevie, but she's not 27 anymore and can't take on tours like that today. She has to think of herself and take care of herself. :) I just don't want the business to overrun her.



63 is not that old but, given the fact that Stevie no longer lives this fast-paced life all year-long, it's too much.
They just should have taken some of that into account.


A few hours in Red Rocks and I felt like *I* was pushing 63. Dancing (swaying, really) in FLATS and walking around the venue gave me the most painful muscle pains in my calves for <i>days</i>. Just sayin'. :shrug:

[MacMan]

ROFL:laugh: good one!!:D

Seriously??? read all that is below here...you be 63 years old and have to wear high heeled boots and dance around a stage for 2 hours a night..night after night..in a different bed, different city..it takes it toll...and regardless whether somebody is doing everything for her or not..unless they are physically picking her up and carrying her or she is in a wheel chair its gotta be hard to do all that and then walk ...have you ever watched how she is when she comes off stage?? she has help...you can tell its hard for her...give the poor woman a break..im amazed she is doing as well as she is

Lynn... Yes seriously... Re-read what I posted... I agree it's all part of the 'taking a toll', I'm saying the travel part is probably the easier end of the deal and the actual show lead up on the day, the show itself for 2 hours on stage... and then the coming down from that afterwards can wear you out.. Plus the constant in motion never sitting still long enough to really relax.