The Weiner Thread

[HejiraNYC]

Okay, first of all, I can't believe there isn't a thread here about U.S. congressional representative Anthony Weiner's Twitter/sexting controversy. Secondly, JTIS, I'm loving every second of it. It's not that I dislike Mr. Weiner at all; in fact, I think he's a great leader and he would have been a shoo-in for eventually becoming mayor of New York City- arguably one of the highest public executive offices in the country. I feel terribly for him because I don't think he did anything wrong in the legal/ethical sense. Yes, what he did was, uh, boneheaded and stupid, but what he does with his, uh, constituents on his own time is his own business and has nothing to do with his ability to lead. Nevertheless, I'm loving all of the jokes, and the fact that his name is "Weiner" is just icing on the cake.

So should he step down from office? Did he cheat on his wife? Is it okay for consensual married adults to sext each other? Would you tolerate your spouse/partner doing this? And most importantly, are you impressed?

[Dodfather]

What did he do? We don't know about this in the UK - although sexting "scandals" have broken with people here too. Hardly a scandal - it's text messages for God's sake!

[louielouie2000]

I think it's pretty absurd... I mean, there isn't even any nudity in the pic that's surfaced. The pic isn't even good enough to tell if we should pat him on the back, or feel sorry for him. :laugh: Honestly, I'm so sick of sex scandals taking down people. We all have bodies. Underneath all of our clothes we're all naked. Naked is how we came into the world. So what's the big effing deal? If Weiner ran on a strict morality platform, I'd say his hypocrisy would warrant a call for him to step down. But he didn't (to my knowledge). So let's quit trying to tar and feather a guy for being born with human body parts. :cool:

[Sorceress]

The problem is that he made up that ridiculous story about his twitter account being hacked--even held a press conference to announce this, thus drawing all of our attention to the situation. I didn't even know anything about the sexting until his cover-up press conference. Then he turns around and admits that he actually HAS been sending pictures to several women. How stupid.

I don't care at all what he does in his personal life, but I take issue with him lying about it. I mean, really. He should have just admitted it initially. He still would have been in hot water, but at least wouldn't look like such an idiot.

[ontheEdgeof17]

I think there are nudes out there that have yet to be released. I'll keep my judgement on this man until then. :p

From his interview, he said his wife knew about this since before they were married. If she wants to be his wife under these circumstances, than that's her beef, not anyone elses. People are in "weirder" marriages than this one. Would it have been a bigger deal if he were single?

I'm so tired of people being afraid of sex and nudity. Why is it so taboo? It's a penis for goodness sakes. It's a vagina. We have one or the other. Why is everyone so ashamed of them. Baffles me.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Update: The penis pic has arrived to the internet, as blurry as it is.

[HejiraNYC]

What did he do? We don't know about this in the UK - although sexting "scandals" have broken with people here too. Hardly a scandal - it's text messages for God's sake!

I would post a direct link to some pictures, but I don't want to run the risk of posting "obscene" material. In any case, the pictures were first leaked on a conservative political blog, biggovernment.com . You'll find that the site is, uh, bulging with embarassing details.

[Beachwood Mac]

Update: The penis pic has arrived to the internet, as blurry as it is.

It just amazes me. As many times as these types of pictures have surfaced how did he possibly think this one wouldn't? Regardless of whether it's his personal life he had to realize the chances he was taking. I could care less about what he does in his personal life. The fact that he had no problem initially lying about it is what bothers me.

[KarmaContestant]

I think the whole thing is silly and a waste of time and media coverage.

If the guy campaigned as "the moral authority" or the "family values guy" than I could understand there being some outrage. As it is, I'm tired of politicians being held to some sort of church-leader role-model standard. If you look back through history, our elected leaders are far from role models - many of them led downright scandalous lives. That doesn't make the things they do ok, but it does make the public look like a bunch of stuck up prudes and pervs for hanging on every word as if the fate of the nation depends on who saw or touched so-and-so's body parts. These men and women have private lives too, and should be allowed to live them without media coverage. It's embarrassing to me to see this all over the news when there are FAR MORE IMPORTANT THINGS to talk about.

[louielouie2000]

I think the whole thing is silly and a waste of time and media coverage.

If the guy campaigned as "the moral authority" or the "family values guy" than I could understand there being some outrage. As it is, I'm tired of politicians being held to some sort of church-leader role-model standard. If you look back through history, our elected leaders are far from role models - many of them led downright scandalous lives. That doesn't make the things they do ok, but it does make the public look like a bunch of stuck up prudes and pervs for hanging on every word as if the fate of the nation depends on who saw or touched so-and-so's body parts. These men and women have private lives, to, and shuld be allowed to live them without media coverage. It's embarrassing to me to see this all over the news when there are FAR MORE IMPORTANT THINGS to talk about.

AGREED!!

Can we please focus on the economy and job creation instead?!

[HomerMcvie]

I don't care at all what he does in his personal life, but I take issue with him lying about it. I mean, really.
Well, come on...I think our first reaction as humans, is to HOPE that if we make some excuse/lie, that HOPEFULLY it will just blow over. Obviously in this technological age, it's more rare for that to happen now...

I have a weiner, and I'm quite fond of it. Ledgie's have seen pics!:cool:

[KarmaContestant]

The fact that he had no problem initially lying about it is what bothers me.

But why? Wouldn't you lie if you were in the same situation? I think the first instinct that most people have when confronted with something they did that might get them in trouble or cause embarassment is "Nope, that wasn't me." It's human nature to lie. It's the first things kids learn to do well on their own.

[KarmaContestant]

So should he step down from office? No.

Did he cheat on his wife? That's up to her, not me.

Is it okay for consensual married adults to sext each other? This needs to be defined within each relationship - there is no broad rule that applies to everyone.

Would you tolerate your spouse/partner doing this? No - but that's our decision.

And most importantly, are you impressed? I didn't see enough to be certain. :woohoo:

[louielouie2000]

Well, come on...I think our first reaction as humans, is to HOPE that if we make some excuse/lie, that HOPEFULLY it will just blow over. Obviously in this technological age, it's more rare for that to happen now...

I have a weiner, and I'm quite fond of it. Ledgie's have seen pics!:cool:

Exactly. Every single man loves their weiner and has taken pics of it at some point or another. :laugh: In fact, the Daily Show has just uncovered evidence where Edison invented the light bulb because his weiner was poorly lit 12 hours of the day... :lol: ;)

Like KarmaContestant pointed out, what really peeves me about this whole thing is the fact that there is now a full blown witch hunt for Weiner (teehee). Our elected officials need to be focusing on our flailing economy and stagnant job creation instead. :nod:

[markolas]

What did he do again? Tweet a pic of his penis? I have to admit this story has not captivated my attention.

[louielouie2000]

What did he do again? Tweet a pic of his penis? I have to admit this story has not captivated my attention.

He tweeted a pic of his bulge. Much ado about nothing.

[markolas]

He tweeted a pic of his bulge. Much ado about nothing.

That's all??? You'd think he was having an affair with a 14-year old from the way people are talking. Geez.

How old is this guy? It sounds like something a junior high school boy would do, and it certainly makes me question his maturity, but it's hardly a federal case.

[KarmaContestant]

That's all??? You'd think he was having an affair with a 14-year old from the way people are talking. Geez.


Well, you have to remember that to those people, a man's semi-nude body is a thing of great horror and fear - definitely something to be kept hidden and never talked about or revealed unless conception is in the works, and then of course only under total darkness so no one can remember any details about what they saw. :rolleyes:

[Beachwood Mac]

But why? Wouldn't you lie if you were in the same situation? I think the first instinct that most people have when confronted with something they did that might get them in trouble or cause embarassment is "Nope, that wasn't me." It's human nature to lie. It's the first things kids learn to do well on their own.

The problem is it has become a distraction. It was a distraction with Craig, Foley, Vitter, Ensign, Studds, etc. You would hope that with the problems facing this country that those in power would learn from their colleagues mistakes. This isn't something that happened years ago, it was very recent. I may be naive but not everyone takes pictures of their junk and sends it out in to cyberspace. My guess is that he will be forced out, not because he did something wrong, but because it's all about the upcoming elections and not wanting any distractions.

[HejiraNYC]

He tweeted a pic of his bulge. Much ado about nothing.

Well, it's not just the bulge pic. The emerging details are painting Weiner as some kind of creepy misogynistic, soulless chronic exhibitionist with a sexting addiction. An isolated bulge pic is one thing, but the other details are far more damning, IMHO.

Yes, politicians are supposed to focus on jobs and the economy. But when was the last time that happened when it wasn't an election year? And the sad truth of the matter is that jobs and the economy are the opposite of sexy. The Weiner story is great for the media: the TV ratings are way up and the newspaper headlines are hysterical.

[Richard B]

It is more than just underwear photos. It's the whole thing. The funny thing is how he bragged about how great his junk is...but the reality is laughable. Let me put it this way, his nose is bigger.

The sad and pathetic truth to this is this man is too old to be doing this.

[louielouie2000]

Well, it's not just the bulge pic. The emerging details are painting Weiner as some kind of creepy misogynistic, soulless chronic exhibitionist with a sexting addiction. An isolated bulge pic is one thing, but the other details are far more damning, IMHO.

Yes, politicians are supposed to focus on jobs and the economy. But when was the last time that happened when it wasn't an election year? And the sad truth of the matter is that jobs and the economy are the opposite of sexy. The Weiner story is great for the media: the TV ratings are way up and the newspaper headlines are hysterical.

I guess I just don't understand people expecting politicians to act as morale authorities. That's not what their job is. If people want a morale leader, go to church. If people feel Weiner tweeting pics of his weiner isn't in their state's best interests, don't elect him next time around. But trying to tar and feather a man for doing something that's absolutely not illegal is just so dumb to me. It'd be different if he ran on a morality platform. Then I'd say "off with his head!" But alas, he didn't.

[HejiraNYC]

I guess I just don't understand people expecting politicians to act as morale authorities. That's not what their job is. If people want a morale leader, go to church. If people feel Weiner tweeting pics of his weiner isn't in their state's best interests, don't elect him next time around. But trying to tar and feather a man for doing something that's absolutely not illegal is just so dumb to me. It'd be different if he ran on a morality platform. Then I'd say "off with his head!" But alas, he didn't.

Politicians are not moral authorities. But they are appointed to be leaders, which requires a certain strength of character, or at least the appearance of it. Politics is not a meritocracy based on ones ability and credentials. Politics is, well... political. Either people like you or they don't. It is a popularity contest. It is more about saying the right things and being able to deliver the message effectively than about actually having an original or constructive thought. I too think the sexting was no big deal, but you do have to question the fortitude of someone who has the inability to simply own and take responsibility for an apparent impropriety. To me, lying is the worst thing a public figure can do.

[KarmaContestant]

I may be naive but not everyone takes pictures of their junk and sends it out in to cyberspace.

:laugh: Not everyone, but millions do it all the time! No one cares because they aren't actors/singers/sports stars/politicians.

I guess I just don't understand people expecting politicians to act as morale authorities. That's not what their job is. If people want a morale leader, go to church. If people feel Weiner tweeting pics of his weiner isn't in their state's best interests, don't elect him next time around. But trying to tar and feather a man for doing something that's absolutely not illegal is just so dumb to me. It'd be different if he ran on a morality platform. Then I'd say "off with his head!" But alas, he didn't.

Bingo.

[markolas]

Well, it's not just the bulge pic. The emerging details are painting Weiner as some kind of creepy misogynistic, soulless chronic exhibitionist with a sexting addiction. An isolated bulge pic is one thing, but the other details are far more damning, IMHO.

What other details?

[DavidMn]

Hey Ed and Curtis, is he your rep?

[KarmaContestant]

Politicians are not moral authorities. But they are appointed to be leaders, which requires a certain strength of character, or at least the appearance of it. Politics is not a meritocracy based on ones ability and credentials. Politics is, well... political. Either people like you or they don't. It is a popularity contest. It is more about saying the right things and being able to deliver the message effectively than about actually having an original or constructive thought. I too think the sexting was no big deal, but you do have to question the fortitude of someone who has the inability to simply own and take responsibility for an apparent impropriety. To me, lying is the worst thing a public figure can do.

I do *sort of* see your point with this, but disagree to an extent. We do expect politicians to be honest about, well, politics - but that's as far as it should go in my opinion. Weiner's weiner has nothing to do with his job, and it certainly has nothing to do with the political arena.

I work in Finance & government contracting. Everything I do with numbers at work is monitored carefully. Complete transparency at work is an absolute must. What I do on my personal time has nothing to do with my job. As an American, I expect the laws of this nation to defend that principle. I believe this whole Weinergate thing needs to just go away. The obsession some people have with it represents the true moral degredation of our country.

[HejiraNYC]

Hey Ed and Curtis, is he your rep?

Nah- his district is the heavily blue collar "white" outer parts of Brooklyn and Queens.

[HejiraNYC]

I do *sort of* see your point with this, but disagree to an extent. We do expect politicians to be honest about, well, politics - but that's as far as it should go in my opinion. Weiner's weiner has nothing to do with his job, and it certainly has nothing to do with the political arena.

I work in Finance & government contracting. Everything I do with numbers at work is monitored carefully. Complete transparency at work is an absolute must. What I do on my personal time has nothing to do with my job. As an American, I expect the laws of this nation to defend that principle. I believe this whole Weinergate thing needs to just go away. The obsession some people have with it represents the true moral degredation of our country.

I hate to break it to you, but morality clauses are a way of life for many people in public life. Celebrities, athletes, politicians must follow a certain code of conduct, regardless of whether or not it is spelled out or is legally binding. The right to privacy for public figures is not always assured.

[Spoinny]

I hate to break it to you, but morality clauses are a way of life for many people in public life. Celebrities, athletes, politicians must follow a certain code of conduct, regardless of whether or not it is spelled out or is legally binding. The right to privacy for public figures is not always assured.

Agreed. Weiner is a liar and would have continued to lie if there wasn't more and more evidence of what he did. I really could not care what he does in his personal life, but when he was caught, he lied about it, then retracted it later on. Great leadership/policies/political motivations, etc, he's still just another narcissistic lying politican and deserves whatever negative attention he gets at this point.

[BTFLCHLD]

I may be naive but not everyone takes pictures of their junk and sends it out in to cyberspace. as always, you're adorable. :xoxo:

In reading the transcripts, IMO weiner is totally guilty of being immature and desperately horny. Knowing the inflamed reaction that would ensue should he be caught, one would think he would have used that last remaining brain cell to create a pseudo screenname. :shrug:

[KarmaContestant]

I hate to break it to you, but morality clauses are a way of life for many people in public life. Celebrities, athletes, politicians must follow a certain code of conduct, regardless of whether or not it is spelled out or is legally binding. The right to privacy for public figures is not always assured.

And...people thinking this is ok is part of the problem. This is also why stars like Madonna and Gaga do so well - they don't care one iota about what "the public" think or say about them and what they do. People admire that quality. "And I'm not sorry - it's human nature" Perhaps it would have been best for Mr. Weiner if he had just said "Yeah, that's my junk. You like it? If not, mind your own business." Too little, too late I guess.

You can't deny that whoever the person, or whatever the situation, this country has a sick obsession with what everyone else is doing behind closed doors. It's not right, but maybe it's just human nature as well.

[daniellaaarisen]

Why the HELL would he use Twitter for this? That's PUBLIC. And loaded photos on YFrog are directly linked with your account so it's not like he could get out of it....

I'm just amazed that he was stupid enough to use Twitter for this.

[APerfectLie]

^ I don't think he meant to use twitter, but if so then he is hella retarded.

My only problem with the whole thing is that he was asked "How did you know these women weren't underage?" His response: "I didn't."

[markolas]

What women?

[APerfectLie]

What women?

The women he was sending the pics to.

[markolas]

I thought he just put it on Twitter. :confused:

[BTFLCHLD]

I thought he just put it on Twitter. :confused:

weiner timeline of events (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/anthony-weiner-scandal-timeline-deceit/story?id=13781381)<br><br><br>

[markolas]

Twitter confuses the hell out of me, but how can you tweet something to just one person. I thought whatever you posted, anyone who had access to your feed could see.

Other than that, it looks like he was just swapping dirty pictures with a woman he met on FB. Sketchy, but not really any of my business.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Twitter confuses the hell out of me, but how can you tweet something to just one person. I thought whatever you posted, anyone who had access to your feed could see.

I think he was texting these women pictures, but somehow, one ended up on his twitter that everyone could see, and in turn, he said his Twitter was hacked.

[KarmaContestant]

I think he was texting these women pictures, but somehow, one ended up on his twitter that everyone could see, and in turn, he said his Twitter was hacked.

That's my understanding as well. He didn't post the photo on Twitter himself - he sent it to a 'friend' and it ended up on Twitter without his knowledge or consent.

So....when it first started being talked about, he denied it, and rightfully so in my opinion, because it was private and never meant to be made public.

You can never, ever trust anyone with a lewd photo of yourself. :laugh: Just don't do it!

[Beachwood Mac]

I think he was texting these women pictures, but somehow, one ended up on his twitter that everyone could see, and in turn, he said his Twitter was hacked.

This is from an article about how it apparently happened. The title of the article:

Simple typo that exposed weiner :laugh:

It's extremely easy to slip-up and turn a private Twitter message into a public posting. Weiner apparently confused a DM with an "@ mention," a public Twitter post directed at a specific user but visible to anyone on the service.

To send a DM to a Twitter follower using TweetDeck, the Twitter application Weiner was reportedly using when he sent the fateful photo, a user prefaces a tweet with the letter D, followed by the Twitter username of the person he or she wants to communicate with privately (e.g. "D bbosker"). To send an @ mention, a user would preface a tweet with the @ symbol followed by the Twitter username of the person he or she wants to converse with in a targeted, but public, way (e.g. "@ bbosker").

[RickRobert]

HAHAHA what a great name. Almost as great as this guy from around here called Dick Cockroft...

[markolas]

This is from an article about how it apparently happened. The title of the article:

Simple typo that exposed weiner :laugh:

It's extremely easy to slip-up and turn a private Twitter message into a public posting. Weiner apparently confused a DM with an "@ mention," a public Twitter post directed at a specific user but visible to anyone on the service.

Okay, that makes sense. I think the people who created the Twitter interface must've done so while they were high. It's the most arcane thing ever.

[Dodfather]

I think the whole thing is silly and a waste of time and media coverage.

If the guy campaigned as "the moral authority" or the "family values guy" than I could understand there being some outrage. As it is, I'm tired of politicians being held to some sort of church-leader role-model standard. If you look back through history, our elected leaders are far from role models - many of them led downright scandalous lives. That doesn't make the things they do ok, but it does make the public look like a bunch of stuck up prudes and pervs for hanging on every word as if the fate of the nation depends on who saw or touched so-and-so's body parts. These men and women have private lives too, and should be allowed to live them without media coverage. It's embarrassing to me to see this all over the news when there are FAR MORE IMPORTANT THINGS to talk about.

Yawn. Sorry but is that it? A politician in a quasi-sex "scandal"? Nothing to see there!

[markolas]

I'm over it.

[HomerMcvie]

Could a mod please change my name to Homer McWeiner?

[henryscutter]

Im just not a political person, but maybe I should get into politics so I have more free time to goof off. I work 50 hours a week and barely have time for my Ledge obsession, I don't know where I would find the time to look for all this Strange :lol:

[mylittledemon]

I came here for Weiner. Where is it?! :shrug:


Could a mod please change my name to Homer McWeiner?

If only... :D

[KarmaContestant]

Could a mod please change my name to Homer McWeiner?

:shrug: I could be WeinerContestant.

:sorry::lol::lol:

[APerfectLie]

:shrug: I could be WeinerContestant.

:sorry::lol::lol:

I will be APerfectWeiner ;)

[HomerMcvie]

If only... :D
You did figure out who I am on The Chain, right?

Sandy C*nt!!!!

God, I LOVE that name!

When I got it changed to that, I literally laughed for a month straight!:laugh:

[louielouie2000]

I will be APerfectWeiner ;)

We have a WEINER folks!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[mylittledemon]

We have a WEINER folks!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

And the weiner is...

:laugh:

[louielouie2000]

:shrug: I could be WeinerContestant.

:sorry::lol::lol:

:lol: I thought you were against sexting? :p

[KarmaContestant]

:lol: I thought you were against sexting? :p

Busted! :lol:

[mezzoforte]

I only gave this thread a quick scan, but has anyone mentioned that his wife is apparently preggers (http://gawker.com/5810072/anthony-weiners-wife-is-pregnant)? Yowch. I can't imagine going through all of this so publicly before bringing a child into the world.

As for the scandal? Eh, it's all legal and I'm certainly not outraged. I am, however, continually blown away that intelligent, successful, fiercely ambitious politicians so often bring themselves down by their dumb-sticks. Really, guys? You claw your way to the top and make enormous personal sacrifices, but can't keep it zipped? C'mon now!
And if you really must sext, learn how to be discreet online. This should not be *that* hard.

[xxxmx]

weinerweinerweinerMweiner

x x x weiner x

Don't know which I like more...


My problem with all of this is the way it changes my perception of a person. I am super-political and really thought this guy was "going places" - but now when I see his picture, I just see another smarmy dude who can' keep it in his pants. I am so over cheaters.

[mylittledemon]

My problem with all of this is the way it changes my perception of a person. I am super-political and really thought this guy was "going places" - but now when I see his picture, I just see another smarmy dude who can' keep it in his pants. I am so over cheaters.

honest to God, I never heard of the guy until this thread :shocked: :lol:

[KarmaContestant]

honest to God, I never heard of the guy until this thread :shocked: :lol:

Up until this fiasco, he was regarded as one of the most articulate and powerful speakers in Congress. Fiercely liberal and a true guardian of the middle class. At least, that is my opinion of him from seeing him on CSPAN coverage.

If he can overcome this - which I'm sure he will with time - he has a bright future.

[Richard B]

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If he can overcome this - which I'm sure he will with time - he has a bright future.

Oh sure, he will be just fine. We always have room for another lying, cheating loser in politics. Perfect.

[HejiraNYC]

Oh sure, he will be just fine. We always have room for another lying, cheating loser in politics. Perfect.

It's interesting that people call this "cheating." Really? There has been no physical contact and presumably no real conversation. Okay, he's shameless. And he's definitely an exhibitionist and a narcissist. But then again, aren't all people who aspire to be in the public spotlight exhibitionists/narcissists to some degree? Politics and stardom are not games for the meek and humble. If anything, Tweeting out (private) c*ck pics seems to be consistent with the personality profile of people in this line of work.

IMO, sexting is tantamount to window shopping. If I was Mrs. Weiner (tee hee), I would actually encourage Mr. Weiner to sext, which is certainly a less harmful outlet than having a real affair or harboring resentment about the strict confines of the marriage. I do not automatically assume that online flirting and sexting is a slippery slope leading to real-world indiscretions. Clearly, Anthony Weiner will never be satisfied with courting the attention of just one woman, so sexting is just one way to cope with those urges.

[KarmaContestant]

Oh sure, he will be just fine. We always have room for another lying, cheating loser in politics. Perfect.

Judgemental much?

He did not cheat.

He only lied to protect his privacy - a move that is ok, since he did NOTHING illegal.

He's far from being a loser. And might I remind you that Bill Clinton is considered a honest to goodness political legend - indeed a hero in some circles around the world - despite his actual lies and cheating with Monica Lewinski.

Good people make mistakes. I do, Surely you have as well. We are all worthy of forgiveness and the opportunity to make things right.

[BTFLCHLD]

weiner is a terrible flirt. anyways, didn't they graduate from online sexting to landline phone sex?

[TrueFaith77]

Up until this fiasco, he was regarded as one of the most articulate and powerful speakers in Congress. Fiercely liberal and a true guardian of the middle class. At least, that is my opinion of him from seeing him on CSPAN coverage.

If he can overcome this - which I'm sure he will with time - he has a bright future.

It is amazing how people perceive things differently than each other. I always thought Weiner was the worst kind of so-called liberal. As Pauline Kael used to say: "the left make great haters." And articulate? He routinely got trounced by the blondebots at Fox and was proven a hypocrite by king-of-the-hypocrites Glenn Beck.

[KarmaContestant]

It is amazing how people perceive things differently than each other. I always thought Weiner was the worst kind of so-called liberal. As Pauline Kael used to say: "the left make great haters." And articulate? He routinely got trounced by the blondebots at Fox and was proven a hypocrite by king-of-the-hypocrites Glenn Beck.

I don't watch Fox so I wouldn't have seen any of that, but I can believe that since he talks before he thinks.

I do think he's articulate though, and in my book he's the best kind of liberal - vocal, loud and argumentative, and the Right certianly has plenty of those types.

I never wanted to see his weiner though. :distress: A lady I work with "accidentally" clicked a link that said in huge letters "CLICK HERE TO SEE THE UNCENSORED PICTURE" while I was in her cube. :laugh:

[Beachwood Mac]

If anything, Tweeting out (private) c*ck pics seems to be consistent with the personality profile of people in this line of work.


I don't recall ever hearing about any congresswomen sending out private pics of their privates. :shrug:

I still find it hard to believe he thought he wouldn't get caught. You send pictures out, identify yourself to the person you are sending them to, you don't know this person and you expect it will remain private. Not very smart.

[mylittledemon]

Judgemental much?

He did not cheat.

He only lied to protect his privacy - a move that is ok, since he did NOTHING illegal.



Exactly. The American public is forgiving. Look at Bill Clinton... he lied under oath, got busted, then came out and admitted he lied... and he's still doted on to this day.

[SuzeQuze]

It's interesting that people call this "cheating." Really? There has been no physical contact and presumably no real conversation. Okay, he's shameless. And he's definitely an exhibitionist and a narcissist. But then again, aren't all people who aspire to be in the public spotlight exhibitionists/narcissists to some degree? Politics and stardom are not games for the meek and humble. If anything, Tweeting out (private) c*ck pics seems to be consistent with the personality profile of people in this line of work.

IMO, sexting is tantamount to window shopping. If I was Mrs. Weiner (tee hee), I would actually encourage Mr. Weiner to sext, which is certainly a less harmful outlet than having a real affair or harboring resentment about the strict confines of the marriage. I do not automatically assume that online flirting and sexting is a slippery slope leading to real-world indiscretions. Clearly, Anthony Weiner will never be satisfied with courting the attention of just one woman, so sexting is just one way to cope with those urges.

Men and women have different feelings about cheating. To most women this is cheating. I bet to his wife it sure feels like cheating.

According to the timeline posted he sent the image to a college student via Twitter. She must have blown the whistle or something. I don't think he publicly tweeted the photo. So he's a stupid jerk but he's not a complete idiot.

[louielouie2000]

Men and women have different feelings about cheating. To most women this is cheating. I bet to his wife it sure feels like cheating.

I'd be pretty humiliated if I were his wife, no doubt. Mainly because the whole thing is being played out in front of the entire world. But There aren't any rules/laws/etc that I'm aware of which say politicians who have extra marital affairs/sext must resign/be excused of their duties. I still think it's absolutely absurd that Clinton was impeached over getting a bj. Why is it even anyone's business what politicians do with their sex organs? :shrug:

Americans are so hypocritical about sex IMO: sex fascinates us endlessly & we gobble up sex scandals, but we also fear & loathe anyone who exhibits any signs of being a sexual person. Yes, what Weiner did was completely stupid & irresponsible. But honestly, he's far from being a sexual deviant with his behavior. It's not like he was molesting children or raping the handicapped. He just took a pic of his (fairly average) junk. That's something that 90+% of men have done at some point in their lives.

I guess that's why I love these sex scandals: they prove just how sexual and crazy people are. I just wish we as a society would learn something from these events, and become a bit more understanding of human nature and be a bit more open with our sexualities. But that's just the raging liberal in me coming out. :laugh:

[daniellaaarisen]

WeinerArisen! :laugh:

[KarmaContestant]

WeinerArisen! :laugh:

:lol:

And again.

:lol:

[SuzeQuze]

I'd be pretty humiliated if I were his wife, no doubt. Mainly because the whole thing is being played out in front of the entire world. But There aren't any rules/laws/etc that I'm aware of which say politicians who have extra marital affairs/sext must resign/be excused of their duties. I still think it's absolutely absurd that Clinton was impeached over getting a bj. Why is it even anyone's business what politicians do with their sex organs? :shrug:

Americans are so hypocritical about sex IMO: sex fascinates us endlessly & we gobble up sex scandals, but we also fear & loathe anyone who exhibits any signs of being a sexual person. Yes, what Weiner did was completely stupid & irresponsible. But honestly, he's far from being a sexual deviant with his behavior. It's not like he was molesting children or raping the handicapped. He just took a pic of his (fairly average) junk. That's something that 90+% of men have done at some point in their lives.

I guess that's why I love these sex scandals: they prove just how sexual and crazy people are. I just wish we as a society would learn something from these events, and become a bit more understanding of human nature and be a bit more open with our sexualities. But that's just the raging liberal in me coming out. :laugh:

I think it's less about her public humiliation and more about the personal hurt. He betrayed his wife. His pregnant wife.

I actually don't think he should step down either. I agree that is absurd and agree on the Clinton impeachment also being absurd. What a waste of time and money. It was disgusting. Star obviously had some sexual repression going on.

We should learn from these stories, yes. Our actions have consequences and think before you do stuff! Usually this type of behavior is about an inability to relate to others on any sort of deep level. Seeing people as objects is safer. We all need to turn our compassionometers up. Well, not me, mine is in overdrive and I need to turn that s--- down! ;)

I mean for Weiner too, he is human and we all screw up. Hopefully he can get some help, get his act together, step up and be a good husband to his beautiful wife, and a good father to his unborn child. Then maybe he can be a decent politician. Is that an oxymoron?

[darklinensuit]

I don't recall ever hearing about any congresswomen sending out private pics of their privates. :shrug:


You haven't seen the Bella Abzug pics yet? :lol::sorry:

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

Exactly. The American public is forgiving. Look at Bill Clinton... he lied under oath, got busted, then came out and admitted he lied... and he's still doted on to this day.

I think it depends. Some people have charisma/charm & can get away with a lot. Then there are others (Tonya Harding, etc.) who don't find America so forgiving.

- Jake

[Dodfather]

WeinerArisen! :laugh:

Best one yet!! :laugh:

[Richard B]

Judgemental much?
Sure, why not? He's in a position to be judged. I guess i could be indifferent, but then that is so passive.


He did not cheat.

He only lied to protect his privacy - a move that is ok, since he did NOTHING illegal.

He's far from being a loser. And might I remind you that Bill Clinton is considered a honest to goodness political legend - indeed a hero in some circles around the world - despite his actual lies and cheating with Monica Lewinski.

Good people make mistakes. I do, Surely you have as well. We are all worthy of forgiveness and the opportunity to make things right.
Yes people make mistakes. However in certain career sectors, I believe integrity is key. I just find lying first, then being honest later when a person can no longer back track or convince others of the first lie, to be a less than desirable attribute.

But then hey, I'm just one person who will not make any difference what so ever in the outcome of his career.

[skcin]

Sure, why not? He's in a position to be judged. I guess i could be indifferent, but then that is so passive.


Yes people make mistakes. However in certain career sectors, I believe integrity is key. I just find lying first, then being honest later when a person can no longer back track or convince others of the first lie, to be a less than desirable attribute.

But then hey, I'm just one person who will not make any difference what so ever in the outcome of his career.

I agree with all of this. :nod:

[mezzoforte]

New favorite video: Jane Lynch and Bill Maher give a dramatic reading (http://gawker.com/5810967/bill-maher-and-jane-lynch-give-dramatic-reading-of-weiners-dirty-facebook-messages) of the dirty facebook messages. Love!

Sure, why not? He's in a position to be judged. I guess i could be indifferent, but then that is so passive.


Yes people make mistakes. However in certain career sectors, I believe integrity is key. I just find lying first, then being honest later when a person can no longer back track or convince others of the first lie, to be a less than desirable attribute.

But then hey, I'm just one person who will not make any difference what so ever in the outcome of his career.

I basically agree--integrity should matter. Opinions will vary on whether the messages were ethically wrong, but they were definitely sleazy and covering them up was a betrayal of his office. I'm also stunned by the idiocy: his e-mail was weiner.rep, at least some of these women knew exactly who they were contacting, and he really didn't think it would get out? Really? He may well bounce back eventually, but I hope the qualities he's displayed give New Yorkers serious doubts, at least.

I'n general, though, I'm honestly unsure of whether these sorts of scandals should change the way we vote. I'm willing to bet most politicians have some skeletons in the closet--politics just seems to attract these guys. And almost all show a lack of integrity at some point, whether it's in covering up an element of their personal lives or suddenly becoming pro-ethanol before the Iowa caucus. It would be nice to have the luxury of requiring integrity but we generally don't, and bad men can be effective leaders (see: Clinton, William J., Giuliani, Rudolph W.)

[Beachwood Mac]

WILMINGTON, Delaware — Top Democratic leaders urged U.S. Rep. Anthony Weiner to resign on Saturday, calling the disgraced Democrat's actions "indefensible" after admitting sending graphic photos to women online.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla, the chair of the Democratic National Committee, and Steve Israel, chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, released statements within minutes of each other Saturday.

"Congressman Weiner has the love of his family, the confidence of his constituents, and the recognition that he needs help," Pelosi said in a statement. "I urge Congressman Weiner to seek that help without the pressures of being a Member of Congress."

Weiner, and outspoken liberal, has acknowledged sending sexually explicit messages over the Internet to a half-dozen women over the past three years and then lying about it. Weiner is married to Huma Abedin, a top aide to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton; Abedin is pregnant with the couple's first child.

“It is with great disappointment that I call on Representative Anthony Weiner to resign,” Wasserman Schultz wrote in her statement. “The behavior he has exhibited is indefensible and Representative Weiner’s continued service in Congress is untenable.”

Amid increasing calls for Weiner to resign, Pelosi had said that the decision should be up to him and his constituents. In a recent poll of registered voters in Weiner's district, 56 percent said he should stay in office while 33 percent said he should leave.

Pelosi has asked the House Ethics Committee to investigate whether Weiner used any government resources. He has said he does not believe he did.

At least nine House members and three senators said Weiner should resign. He has repeatedly said he would not.

[LikeAWillow]

Usually this type of behavior is about an inability to relate to others on any sort of deep level. Seeing people as objects is safer. We all need to turn our compassionometers up. Well, not me, mine is in overdrive and I need to turn that s--- down! ;)


This is a complete sidenote to the discussion, but I'm really not sure if that's what we need to learn from this example.

If his wife really did know what was going on, it's quite possible that she and her husband discussed the fact that he could have online flings with these women if it were solely about attraction and not remotely about emotion. He may have known that he would struggle with monogamy, and perhaps they found a creative solution within their marriage to work with those limitations. As long as the women knew as well that they were purely sex objects (which, from the conversations that have surfaced, it certainly seems they must have), then this is actually a rather interesting attempt to prevent his wife from harm. Attempting to minimize hurt from the life of someone you care for seems to be well within the definition of compassion to me.

[SuzeQuze]

This is a complete sidenote to the discussion, but I'm really not sure if that's what we need to learn from this example.

If his wife really did know what was going on, it's quite possible that she and her husband discussed the fact that he could have online flings with these women if it were solely about attraction and not remotely about emotion. He may have known that he would struggle with monogamy, and perhaps they found a creative solution within their marriage to work with those limitations. As long as the women knew as well that they were purely sex objects (which, from the conversations that have surfaced, it certainly seems they must have), then this is actually a rather interesting attempt to prevent his wife from harm. Attempting to minimize hurt from the life of someone you care for seems to be well within the definition of compassion to me.

That is an interesting position. Has it been reported that his wife knew about this behavior? I would bet money that she did not.

[LikeAWillow]

That is an interesting position. Has it been reported that his wife knew about this behavior? I would bet money that she did not.

It actually is being reported that way.

[SuzeQuze]

It actually is being reported that way.

Interesting. Good thing I didn't actually bet any $$$! :lol: I stand corrected.

[LikeAWillow]

Interesting. Good thing I didn't actually bet any $$$! :lol: I stand corrected.

Yup. The whole thing is so ridiculous. I can't even handle it. I know I'm probably in the minority when I say that I prefer my politicians to be good liars, but god, this shouldn't even upset normal people's moral compasses.

[SuzeQuze]

Yup. The whole thing is so ridiculous. I can't even handle it. I know I'm probably in the minority when I say that I prefer my politicians to be good liars, but god, this shouldn't even upset normal people's moral compasses.

Yeah for me the story is over. Let him and his wife sort it out, it's none of our business. I really don't care about the details and I certainly don't want to see that picture of him shirtless ever again.

[LikeAWillow]

Why Did I Image Search That?

Burned On My Retinas Forever.

[SuzeQuze]

Why Did I Image Search That?

Burned On My Retinas Forever.

Right? Dr. Drew had it on his show zoomed in and being panned up and down. Really? I'm traumatized! Weiner is taking a leave of absence to seek treatment. http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/11/weiner.scandal/index.html?hpt=hp_t1