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Bryan
05-13-2011, 12:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=2GT4YV6xVrw
Robbie?
UndoingTheLaces
05-13-2011, 05:11 PM
Oh no! It's the Police all over again! LOL!
Actually that is a fairly standard 50's riff isn't it? But it does have similarities.
I know there are a few Kate Bush fans here, so you'll appreciate this. I always thought Kate's Eat The Music (http://youtu.be/qM_8vOG-3CY) sounded just like Giles Farnaby's Dream by The Penguin Cafe Orchestra (http://youtu.be/K8h17ZFW7eQ)
mdakd
05-13-2011, 06:30 PM
Oh no! It's the Police all over again! LOL!
Actually that is a fairly standard 50's riff isn't it? But it does have similarities.
I know there are a few Kate Bush fans here, so you'll appreciate this. I always thought Kate's Eat The Music (http://youtu.be/qM_8vOG-3CY) sounded just like Giles Farnaby's Dream by The Penguin Cafe Orchestra (http://youtu.be/K8h17ZFW7eQ)
Wow, they do sound so similar! I had heard about her lifting the pipes in "The Sensual World" / "Flower of the Mountain" from some Macedonian song, but I never heard this. Thanks! :cool:
italian summer overwhelming vibe is san remo festival-ish. i think DS was probably going for that since it fits well with the song title.
caterwench
05-13-2011, 08:48 PM
yes , because it's a " shuffle style" timing, or riff whichever your pleasure.......
sorcerer999
05-13-2011, 10:52 PM
Let's not forget about Richard Ashcroft's "New York", which came out in 2001, two years before Stevie's "Illume". Then of course, since the music was crafted by Lindsey, maybe it was he who did the plagiarising?
Here's "New York".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aKO38bPf7g
Garbo
05-13-2011, 11:05 PM
OMG I just listened that Richard Ashcroft song... hello Illume WOW the similarities are striking :lol:
Let's not forget about Richard Ashcroft's "New York", which came out in 2001, two years before Stevie's "Illume". Then of course, since the music was crafted by Lindsey, maybe it was he who did the plagiarising
my SYW liner notes say "stevie nicks" under Illume as the only songwriter :shrug:
mylittledemon
05-13-2011, 11:20 PM
my SYW liner notes say "stevie nicks" under Illume as the only songwriter :shrug:
Crafting the music to the song and writing the lyrics are totally different beasts. ;)
Crafting the music to the song and writing the lyrics are totally different beasts. ;)
really?!?!? ;)
she's listed as a songwriter - as in music and lyrics on Illume.
my understanding is that IYD has dave stewart listed as a co-author on many songs b/c he crafted the music to stevie's lyrics, no?
Fiver
05-14-2011, 12:03 AM
There are three Stevie songs on SYW that sound like Richard Ashcroft songs.
Illume & New York
Silver Girl & I Get My Beat
Say You Will & C'mon People (We're Making it Now)
And they're all from his album Alone With Everybody.
Here's the other two
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I doubt it's a coincidence. That said, it doesn't keep me from enjoying the songs, in the same way I can like both Eyes of the World and Enchanted.
Janis_no1
05-14-2011, 12:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=2GT4YV6xVrw
Robbie?
:o
whoa it does doesn't it. Someone in Stevie camp has pretty much copied this
louielouie2000
05-14-2011, 12:19 AM
Let's not forget about Richard Ashcroft's "New York", which came out in 2001, two years before Stevie's "Illume". Then of course, since the music was crafted by Lindsey, maybe it was he who did the plagiarising?
Here's "New York".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aKO38bPf7g
Don't forget about how Bombay Sapphires ripped off Sting's Shape Of My Heart, either:
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AliceLover
05-14-2011, 12:35 AM
C'mon People = Say You Will (the song)
jellyman10
05-14-2011, 02:14 AM
And 'C'mon People' is reminiscent of The Four Tops c. 'Reach Out (I'll Be There)'. There's nothing new under the sun. (I nicked that from Eccleciastes, by the way.)
mylittledemon
05-14-2011, 04:21 AM
really?!?!? ;)
she's listed as a songwriter - as in music and lyrics on Illume.
my understanding is that IYD has dave stewart listed as a co-author on many songs b/c he crafted the music to stevie's lyrics, no?
;) Dunno... maybe she just had the basic chord structure down on Illume. You know how she can plonk the piano a bit and have the "core" of the song? Lindsey probably took it from there. :shrug:
astro-addy
05-14-2011, 05:46 AM
But Robbie ripped off the Cranberries, When Your Gone, for that song!
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Bryan
05-14-2011, 07:45 AM
Let's not forget about Richard Ashcroft's "New York", which came out in 2001, two years before Stevie's "Illume". Then of course, since the music was crafted by Lindsey, maybe it was he who did the plagiarising?
Here's "New York".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aKO38bPf7g
I had an mp3 of a Lindsey radio interview from 00-03 where he NAMED Richard Ashcroft as one of the 'current' artists he listened to.
Perhaps there are specific reasons she did a U-Turn on SYW album,because I know she liked it early on.She must have got wind about Lindsey's manipulation of her songs,turning them into Ashcroft tributes LOL
While we're here may aswell add Ashcroft:smug a$$hole!
RickRobert
05-14-2011, 08:58 AM
Okay everyone, try this!
1. Sing the chorus of The Winner Takes It All by ABBA over Italian Summer's chorus
2. Clean your brains off the walls
WildHearted
05-14-2011, 11:41 AM
Sweet Girl sounds like One of Us by Joan Osborne in the verses...
sorcerer999
05-14-2011, 11:58 AM
Don't forget about how Bombay Sapphires ripped off Sting's Shape Of My Heart, either:
<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_0J0toYZB6Q?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Woah! Didn't know about that one! Also, didn't she say in an interview somewhere that she had originally wanted Sting to sing on "Bombay Sapphires" with her?
I guess it's all been done before. Everybody really does rip off everybody else>:nod:
louielouie2000
05-14-2011, 01:34 PM
Wide Sargasso Sea obviously pulls several key guitar parts from this song as well:
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Thanks to CaliforniaDream for pointing this out! I always love finding when Fleetwood Mac & Stevie "borrow" riffs. :D
Fiver
05-14-2011, 01:49 PM
Sweet Girl sounds like One of Us by Joan Osborne in the verses...
It also sounds like Free Fallin' to me.
WildHearted
05-14-2011, 02:24 PM
It also sounds like Free Fallin' to me.
Totally does, you're right.
David
05-14-2011, 05:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=2GT4YV6xVrw
Robbie?
Kinda.
But it also sounds like howdy-doodoo.
Hippocampus
05-14-2011, 06:44 PM
I doubt it's a coincidence. That said, it doesn't keep me from enjoying the songs, in the same way I can like both Eyes of the World and Enchanted.
To my ears, Enchanted rather seems to be a continuation of How Still My Love (which theoretically predates Eyes of The World).
PenguinHead
05-21-2011, 09:19 PM
All artists are influenced by other artists, and some are quite frank about it. As the saying goes "Steal from the best."
Dreamz19
05-21-2011, 11:20 PM
The Ashcroft songs are VERY similar. I heard the New York one before, but not the other songs. I actually like some of his songs more. After learning some time ago that she stole from The Police, I started loving BOTN more than EO17.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz1mEMiNPHQ
jeffd8382
05-22-2011, 12:22 AM
Okay everyone, try this!
1. Sing the chorus of The Winner Takes It All by ABBA over Italian Summer's chorus
2. Clean your brains off the walls
Thank you! That chord progression has been bugging me since I first heard it.. not annoying me (I like the song a great deal), but I couldn't place what other song it made me think of.... you solved it for me! :thumbsup:
I'm actually disappointed in myself, now that I realize it, that I couldn't figure it out myself.. given that I've heard "The Winner Takes It All" hundreds of times.. lol!
Musicman408
05-22-2011, 08:14 AM
Wide Sargasso Sea obviously pulls several key guitar parts from this song as well:
<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MYjyjfB7-gs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Thanks to CaliforniaDream for pointing this out! I always love finding when Fleetwood Mac & Stevie "borrow" riffs. :D
Totally love that song- have never heard it before! Thanks for sharing! Love the WSS guitar riff ;)
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