Stevie Nicks IYD Interviews and Discussion

[CADreaming]

Nick of time
35 years later, Stevie Nicks is still inspired by her breakup with Lindsey Buckingham (http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/music/nick_of_time_0GtiT8GIPciZ1zoguQjulO)

By LARRY GETLEN

Last Updated: 8:10 AM, May 1, 2011
Posted: 7:37 PM, April 30, 2011

While writing the songs for Fleetwood Mac’s classic 1977 album “Rumours,” which remains one of the top 10 best-selling albums in US history, the group was inspired by enough relationship breakdowns, bed-hopping and substance abuse to make the “Jersey Shore” house look like a weekend at Bible camp.

While keyboardist/vocalist Christine McVie and bassist John McVie slogged through a harsh divorce, she wrote “You Make Loving Fun,” on which John had to play, about her new lover, the band’s lighting director.

Meanwhile, vocalist Stevie Nicks and singer/guitarist Lindsey Buckingham were mired in a devastating breakup of their own. So when Nicks wrote “Dreams” and Buckingham wrote “Go Your Own Way” about the bust-up, they each had to sing emotionally charged, bitter lyrics written about themselves.

Almost 35 years later, the legacy of this spiritual connection to former lover and bandmate Buckingham haunts Nicks’ every artistic move.

“When Lindsey and I sing ‘Go Your Own Way,’ we still look at each other with eye-slashing anger,” says Nicks, who last toured with Buckingham and Fleetwood Mac in 2009. “That never goes away, because we can never quite forget that situation.”

It’s hardly surprising, then, that Nicks’ feelings toward him are well-represented on “In Your Dreams,” her first solo album in a decade, out on Tuesday. The song “Moonlight (A Vampire’s Dream)” alternatively addresses her relationship with Buckingham, and the one between Edward and Bella from “Twilight,” two relationships in which she sees deep similarities. After seeing “New Moon” in 2009, Nicks took two verses from an old, unreleased Fleetwood Mac song from the ’70s, and intertwined it with an essay she wrote about the film.

The psychic weirdness between Nicks and Buckingham continues to this day. Buckingham appears on “In Your Dreams” in a song called “Soldier’s Angel” (Fleetwood Mac drummer and fellow ex-Nicks paramour Mick Fleetwood appears on the album as well), and Nicks says that the strange vibes that haunt the former lovers never fade.

“Lindsey and I are difficult people to work together,” says Nicks. “He’ll say to me, ‘I think that song should not be in the third person,’ and I go, ‘Would you say that to Bob Dylan?’ That shuts him up for a second.”

Singing the classics brings up other difficult memories. “Gold Dust Woman,” for example, recalls her days of cocaine abuse so pronounced that she burned a hole through the cartilage in her nose. Surprisingly, though, she says that cocaine was far less damaging to her than drugs that were prescribed by a doctor.

“I skated through the cocaine days pretty safely,” she says. “I went straight to Betty Ford when I knew I couldn’t do it anymore. But the stupid psychiatrist that put me on Klonopin — that was my death sentence.”

Nicks says that a shrink kept her dependent on the drug for seven years just so he could press her for debauched tales of Hollywood.

“If anything would have [killed] me, it would have been that,” she says. “You’re just getting fat and the lights are going out in your eyes. You’re losing [the ages] from 40 to 47, prime years of your life, sitting on a couch gaining 25 pounds. And this doctor just watches you and says, ‘How’s things with you and Lindsey? What about all the other rock stars in the world?’ ”

Despite her sensitivity for those with drug issues, one famous substance abuser has her riled — Lindsay Lohan, whose Stevie Nicks obsession has included butchering her song “Edge of Seventeen,” and talking publicly about wanting to play Nicks in a biopic.

“I thought [that version] was terrible,” says Nicks. “I have to laugh at [talk of her playing me], because I feel very sorry for her. She’s going to the slammer for three months. I would rather die than go to jail. For me, that makes me think even more that she’s insane. She’ll never play me in a movie.”

But aside from such distractions, Nicks is excited to play music that touches on the darker episodes in her life.

“Boring, blah things don’t bring out anything, and there’s just nothing boring or blah about [my or Lindsey’s] lives. We travel through this world in this insane way,” she says. “It’s difficult [to sing about], but it’s also wonderful, because if I had to go up there and sing these songs every night [without that], I would be extremely bored with all of them.”

[Jondalar]

Nick of time
35 years later, Stevie Nicks is still inspired by her breakup with Lindsey Buckingham (http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/music/nick_of_time_0GtiT8GIPciZ1zoguQjulO)

By LARRY GETLEN

Last Updated: 8:10 AM, May 1, 2011
Posted: 7:37 PM, April 30, 2011

While writing the songs for Fleetwood Mac’s classic 1977 album “Rumours,” which remains one of the top 10 best-selling albums in US history, the group was inspired by enough relationship breakdowns, bed-hopping and substance abuse to make the “Jersey Shore” house look like a weekend at Bible camp.

While keyboardist/vocalist Christine McVie and bassist John McVie slogged through a harsh divorce, she wrote “You Make Loving Fun,” on which John had to play, about her new lover, the band’s lighting director.

Meanwhile, vocalist Stevie Nicks and singer/guitarist Lindsey Buckingham were mired in a devastating breakup of their own. So when Nicks wrote “Dreams” and Buckingham wrote “Go Your Own Way” about the bust-up, they each had to sing emotionally charged, bitter lyrics written about themselves.

Almost 35 years later, the legacy of this spiritual connection to former lover and bandmate Buckingham haunts Nicks’ every artistic move.

“When Lindsey and I sing ‘Go Your Own Way,’ we still look at each other with eye-slashing anger,” says Nicks, who last toured with Buckingham and Fleetwood Mac in 2009. “That never goes away, because we can never quite forget that situation.”

It’s hardly surprising, then, that Nicks’ feelings toward him are well-represented on “In Your Dreams,” her first solo album in a decade, out on Tuesday. The song “Moonlight (A Vampire’s Dream)” alternatively addresses her relationship with Buckingham, and the one between Edward and Bella from “Twilight,” two relationships in which she sees deep similarities. After seeing “New Moon” in 2009, Nicks took two verses from an old, unreleased Fleetwood Mac song from the ’70s, and intertwined it with an essay she wrote about the film.

The psychic weirdness between Nicks and Buckingham continues to this day. Buckingham appears on “In Your Dreams” in a song called “Soldier’s Angel” (Fleetwood Mac drummer and fellow ex-Nicks paramour Mick Fleetwood appears on the album as well), and Nicks says that the strange vibes that haunt the former lovers never fade.

“Lindsey and I are difficult people to work together,” says Nicks. “He’ll say to me, ‘I think that song should not be in the third person,’ and I go, ‘Would you say that to Bob Dylan?’ That shuts him up for a second.”

Singing the classics brings up other difficult memories. “Gold Dust Woman,” for example, recalls her days of cocaine abuse so pronounced that she burned a hole through the cartilage in her nose. Surprisingly, though, she says that cocaine was far less damaging to her than drugs that were prescribed by a doctor.

“I skated through the cocaine days pretty safely,” she says. “I went straight to Betty Ford when I knew I couldn’t do it anymore. But the stupid psychiatrist that put me on Klonopin — that was my death sentence.”

Nicks says that a shrink kept her dependent on the drug for seven years just so he could press her for debauched tales of Hollywood.

“If anything would have [killed] me, it would have been that,” she says. “You’re just getting fat and the lights are going out in your eyes. You’re losing [the ages] from 40 to 47, prime years of your life, sitting on a couch gaining 25 pounds. And this doctor just watches you and says, ‘How’s things with you and Lindsey? What about all the other rock stars in the world?’ ”

Despite her sensitivity for those with drug issues, one famous substance abuser has her riled — Lindsay Lohan, whose Stevie Nicks obsession has included butchering her song “Edge of Seventeen,” and talking publicly about wanting to play Nicks in a biopic.

“I thought [that version] was terrible,” says Nicks. “I have to laugh at [talk of her playing me], because I feel very sorry for her. She’s going to the slammer for three months. I would rather die than go to jail. For me, that makes me think even more that she’s insane. She’ll never play me in a movie.”

But aside from such distractions, Nicks is excited to play music that touches on the darker episodes in her life.

“Boring, blah things don’t bring out anything, and there’s just nothing boring or blah about [my or Lindsey’s] lives. We travel through this world in this insane way,” she says. “It’s difficult [to sing about], but it’s also wonderful, because if I had to go up there and sing these songs every night [without that], I would be extremely bored with all of them.”

She would never use words like slammer or say something in that way. This article is garbage and just another way to get at Lindsay Lohan.

[mikebise]

That Bob Dylan line never gets old! ;)

[saintvox]

Despite her sensitivity for those with drug issues, one famous substance abuser has her riled — Lindsay Lohan, whose Stevie Nicks obsession has included butchering her song “Edge of Seventeen,” and talking publicly about wanting to play Nicks in a biopic.

“I thought [that version] was terrible,” says Nicks. “I have to laugh at [talk of her playing me], because I feel very sorry for her. She’s going to the slammer for three months. I would rather die than go to jail. For me, that makes me think even more that she’s insane. She’ll never play me in a movie.”



Nope.

I specifically remember seeing somewhere that Stevie actually liked that cover, and I'm pretty sure she would have also had to have approve consider it's her song. So yeah, this article is bull.

I find it hard to believe that Stevie would be so, what's the word I'm looking for, inconsiderate maybe, to someone who has a lot of the problems she herself had at that time. I mean, it took Stevie being told that she was going to die if she did drugs again to stop?

[WildHearted]

Had to laugh at her bringing up the Thrown Down fight :lol:

You'd think in all the time they've recorded together Lindsey would have said something else to her that would have upset her...

[fumidesigns]

ha! i like that she says "slammer". how 'old school' of you Stevie!

[CADreaming]

That Bob Dylan line never gets old! ;)

Never! :thumbsup:

ha! i like that she says "slammer". how 'old school' of you Stevie!

I have to admit the slammer line had me laughing out loud. :lol:

[Josh2003]

Yeah, something strikes me as "off" about this. She would never be so blunt as to say that Lohan's version of "Edge" was "terrible." She's much more candid and professional than that.

[Amlyn]

[QUOTE=CADreaming;975221]Nick of time
35 years later, Stevie Nicks is still inspired by her breakup with Lindsey Buckingham (http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/music/nick_of_time_0GtiT8GIPciZ1zoguQjulO)

By LARRY GETLEN

Last Updated: 8:10 AM, May 1, 2011
Posted: 7:37 PM, April 30, 2011

While writing the songs for Fleetwood Mac’s classic 1977 album “Rumours,” which remains one of the top 10 best-selling albums in US history, the group was inspired by enough relationship breakdowns, bed-hopping and substance abuse to make the “Jersey Shore” house look like a weekend at Bible camp.
[QUOTE]

Can't say I ever thought the Rumours-era would be compared to Jersey Shore. Just reminds me of what SnL said during their pre-Unleashed videoed interviews on ET, Access Hollywood, etc., that if the paparazzi was around when they were in their heydey they would have never survived it. hehe

But back to the article. Nothing really new here, same old same old, although like others I laugh at the mention of the Bob Dylan quote from SYW timeframe.

I didn't count but how many references to Lindsey in this one? I might start a drinking game as all the new press unfolds.

[Tellurium]

Eugh, why would people feel the need to make up things that Stevie has said? As if she doesn't say enough weird things as it is. :rolleyes: Oh well.

[mikebise]

Huh? This is the New York Post, right? I am taking that some of you think it's a fake interview. Why?
???

[fumidesigns]

Huh? This is the New York Post, right? I am taking that some of you think it's a fake interview. Why?
???

oh wait.........it's The Post? if so, this is a shady interview! The Post is from the devil and SHOULD NOT be read!

[mezzoforte]

Huh? This is the New York Post, right? I am taking that some of you think it's a fake interview. Why?
???

THIS.

Newspapers are generally way too afraid of libel suits to make up fake interviews. And why would the Post have to? I think the interview is legit.

[WildHearted]

Nope.

I specifically remember seeing somewhere that Stevie actually liked that cover, and I'm pretty sure she would have also had to have approve consider it's her song.

Well, I'm pretty sure that Stevie would have approved it before it was recorded, not after, in order for them to get the rights to it and everything. So it's not like she would have heard it before hand necessarily.

Anyway, I can't recall whether or not she's said anything about the song (only her "Over my dead body comments" regarding the movie hah) but she may very well have.. nor do I really say I can make a judgement over the validity of the article. It doesn't really sound like the way Stevie usually speaks but that could just be bad transcription.. also, it seems like the NY Post would be reliable but I'm not an avid newspaper reader or anything so really I wouldn't know.

[LikeAWillow]

I'm going to choose to believe (despite that odds) that it's a misquoting. I don't like to think that Stevie is the sort of person who would make that comment.

[Artemis]

I can't see Stevie out-right calling it "terrible" I could see her saying something rambly like "Not as powerful as my version because she was so young when she recorded it, and she hasn't gone through all the stuff I had, I mean, by then, I was still recovering from the Lindsey breakup and there was that whole thing with Mick..." etc etc.

Plus, I REALLY can't see Stevie calling someone else insane. The amount of times she's been called it, I doubt she'd use it as an insult. :laugh:

[WildHearted]

Well, she called Bob Dylan 'totally crazy' haha.

[TinyDancer]

I am by no means a Lindsey Lohan fan, but I don't get why Stevie comes down on her so hard. If there would have been cameras and paparazzi around during the height of Stevie's career she would have been painted in IN AN INCREDIBLY unflattering light- Sex, booze, abortions, drugs, teetering on the verge of insanity. She has luckily been able to avoid that for the most part and control her own image. If she would have been stalked by the media like Lindsey Lohan it would have been ugly.

[fumidesigns]

I'm going to choose to believe (despite that odds) that it's a misquoting. I don't like to think that Stevie is the sort of person who would make that comment.

i KNOW it's a misquoting! the post does that all the time! :mad:

[mezzoforte]

Mmmhmm.
I really can't think of anything Stevie's said or done that bothers me as much as the repeated rants on Lindsay Lohan. Lilo is a gorgeous, talented girl who's obviously having a rough time. But she's trying to get better and scared as hell of going to jail, so I don't see why anyone feels the need to kick her while she's down. I would hope everyone would go easy on her, but especially Stevie--she's basically been there.

But while I don't want to believe Stevie said it, I think she probably did:shrug:

[mikebise]

"Now you tell me that I'm crazy...
It's nothing that I didn't know..." ;)

[Jondalar]

Mmmhmm.
I really can't think of anything Stevie's said or done that bothers me as much as the repeated rants on Lindsay Lohan. Lilo is a gorgeous, talented girl who's obviously having a rough time. But she's trying to get better and scared as hell of going to jail, so I don't see why anyone feels the need to kick her while she's down. I would hope everyone would go easy on her, but especially Stevie--she's basically been there.

But while I don't want to believe Stevie said it, I think she probably did:shrug:

When I saw her talk about lohan in an interview, there wasn't really any venom. She just wants Lohan to get off the drugs. This interview is absolute BS. The voice of it is completely National Enquirer and it's a real shame. They do anything to get at Lohan and its hurting Stevie.

[The Catdancer]

I don't think she really said that about Lindsay Lohan. She can be firm and she obviously has an opnion about Lohan but I don't think she'll say in public that she (or anybody else) is insane and laughs about her 'going to the slammer'. She's not cruel. If anything I remember her saying she wanted Lohan to clean up her act and get off drugs but that's about it.

[michelej1]

Oh, I love the fact that her doctor was asking her about her and Lindsey. This is a practitioner after my own heart.

Please, she and Lindsey may look at each other during GYOW with eyes slashing full of anger sometimes, but most of the time when I saw them on the SYW and Unleashed tour they were looking at each other during the shackin' up line and smiling.

As for the Bob Dylan comment shutting Lindsey up for a second -- that's not because he didn't have anything to say. It's because he was biting his tongue. He was quiet because he had blood in his mouth.

Michele

[njova]

He was probably biting his tongue from telling her "but Stevie you're no Bob Dylan". :laugh:

[Dodfather]

“[B]I thought [that version] was terrible,” says Nicks. “I have to laugh at [talk of her playing me], because I feel very sorry for her. She’s going to the slammer for three months. I would rather die than go to jail. For me, that makes me think even more that she’s insane. She’ll never play me in a movie.”

”

Oh please. If she was that irritated by it she could have said no to Lindsay recording and releasing it. Plenty other artists have said a big fat no to others covering their songs.

[WildHearted]

Oh please. If she was that irritated by it she could have said no to Lindsay recording and releasing it. Plenty other artists have said a big fat no to others covering their songs.

Well, I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have heard it before she gave them the rights to record it..

That said, she probably should have realized that Lindsay Lohan is no singer and judged accordingly before giving away the rights if she was going to care.

[jellyman10]

'Misquoting' is a term PR people and celebs use when what they really mean is 'I did say that, but I also said a lot of other things, some of which make the bit you quoted not come over quite so bad'.

I see no reason to believe SN didn't say these things. They sound harsher than what she's said in the past. Maybe she was tired or grouchy or whatever? But she probably did them.

Now, what REALLY annoys me about this article is the 'bed-hopping' line. They do this is every blimmin article about FM ever written, and as far as we know, apart from the legit couples, there was only ONE other hook-up in that band. One out of four other hetero possibilities:

Stevie and John? No.
Christine and Mick? No.
Christine and Lindsey? No.
Stevie and Mick? Yes.

People, they were hardly even trying.:rolleyes:

[Jondalar]

'Misquoting' is a term PR people and celebs use when what they really mean is 'I did say that, but I also said a lot of other things, some of which make the bit you quoted not come over quite so bad'.

I see no reason to believe SN didn't say these things. They sound harsher than what she's said in the past. Maybe she was tired or grouchy or whatever? But she probably did them.

Now, what REALLY annoys me about this article is the 'bed-hopping' line. They do this is every blimmin article about FM ever written, and as far as we know, apart from the legit couples, there was only ONE other hook-up in that band. One out of four other hetero possibilities:

Stevie and John? No.
Christine and Mick? No.
Christine and Lindsey? No.
Stevie and Mick? Yes.

People, they were hardly even trying.:rolleyes:


if you believe that, you want to believe that, because its obviously over the top and Stevie is pretty savy about her career nowadays

[Sahara]

I find it strange that Stevie would reference that particular quote from Destiny Rules. Has she ever talked about it elsewhere? That and the odd language around Lindsey Lohan makes me wonder.

More to the point, is anyone else a little disturbed by the phrase "eye-slashing"?? :shocked:

[Josh2003]

I find it strange that Stevie would reference that particular quote from Destiny Rules. Has she ever talked about it elsewhere? That and the odd language around Lindsey Lohan makes me wonder.

More to the point, is anyone else a little disturbed by the phrase "eye-slashing"?? :shocked:

Exactly...I doubt that Stevie even remembers that little exchange the way that we do.

[WildHearted]

What exactly does eye-slashing mean?

[jannieC]

The line about the shrink keeping her around to get information about her and Lindsey caught my eye. My first thought (before reading any comments) was that her language seemed off in this interview. I thought it was fake (or embellished) too. :shrug:

[SummerlongBoots]

Hello!

My name is SummerlongBoots and I am a Stevie-holic. (Hopefully, the crowd responds, "Hi Boots.") :wavey:

Long time fan. Long time lurker. Newbie.



I saw this article on AOL and just had to share:

http://www.spinner.com/2011/04/29/stevie-nicks-in-your-dreams/?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk1%7C211586


Stevie Nicks Admits Undying Love for Lindsey Buckingham, Dedicates New Album to Fan Who Succumbed to Cancer

After Stevie Nicks released 'Trouble in Shangri-La' in 2001, she thought she'd never record another solo album again. The process was tiresome and besides, she still had her longtime band Fleetwood Mac to satisfy her musical creativity.

Now, 10 years later, she's back with 'In Your Dreams' -- a rich, dynamic album co-written and co-produced by Eurythmics guitarist Dave Stewart, and featuring Fleetwood Mac's Mick Fleetwood on drums and ex-boyfriend Lindsey Buckingham on guitar and vocals. From a San Francisco hotel room, on a rare night off from her recent tour with Rod Stewart, Nicks told Spinner about gaining inspiration from a lost friend, how recording this album changed her life and why she and Lindsey are like Bella and Edward from 'Twilight.'

On your recent tour with Rod Stewart, was there a friendly rivalry between the two of you? Would you ever tell him before a show, "I'm going to go out and wipe the floor with you tonight?"

Oh no, you would never say something like that to Rod Stewart [laughs]. Even though he's only a few years older than me, he is from a generation before me. Rod Stewart was a big rock star before Lindsey and I even moved to Los Angeles. He was one of my big inspirations: Rod Stewart, Led Zeppelin, Janis, Jimi ...
[B]
You and Lindsey got a record deal in 1972 as Buckingham Nicks. Would you have been signed in 2011?

The music business is in terrible shape right now because artists don't sell ten million albums anymore. [Labels are] not making all that money, so they can't have a whole slew of bands that they're helping and developing. Lindsey and I were really lucky. I was just a waitress for four years, and he wasn't [working]. It was okay because we worked on our music, we had a four-track Ampex tape recorder, and we were able to survive.

But I don't see how the kids can do it today. I feel sorry for them. I want it to happen, because in 20 years, I don't want everybody to be just listening to the Rolling Stones and Fleetwood Mac and Led Zeppelin; I want this generation to have their own rock stars that last. But it's going to be very hard for the kids that are popular right now to still be doing this when they're 40.

We're so used to hearing about how your albums have had difficult gestation periods, but you've said that making 'In Your Dreams' was great -- it must be a relief.

Well, this is how it should be. When you make records with Fleetwood Mac, they're difficult. That's not to say they're not amazing -- they obviously are, and that's why I am famous; every time I drive up to my gorgeous house, I go, "This is the house that Fleetwood Mac built." So did we argue? Yes. Did we have fights? Yes. But was the music that came out of it fantastic? Yes. However, it was difficult.

Even making my own records -- between 'Bella Donna' in 1981 and 'Shangri-La' in 2001 -- was difficult. [With this album], I have been reminded that you can make great music and have a good time doing it, and that you don't have to be heartbroken and freaking out. [You can] go back to your poetry from the last 30 years, and if you want those passionate, crazy moments, you can find them in your writing.

How did you start the process?

Dave Stewart came over to my house in the Palisades, and I gave him a binder of my poetry and said, "See if there's anything that appeals to you." Dave always has a guitar around his neck, and he started playing, and I just sort of started reciting my poetry, and all of a sudden, in about an hour, we had this amazing song.

I have never been interested in writing with anybody -- not Lindsey, not anybody. And all of a sudden, I could actually understand why Lennon and McCartney wrote together, or Rodgers and Hammerstein, or any of the great songwriting teams. I don't know 1000 chords, and Dave doesn't have a book of 40 poems. When you put those two things together, you have this amazing amount of wisdom and knowledge. Those five minutes where it all started was a brilliant moment. Stars went off. When it was done, I said, "Well, I'm a changed woman." And we just continued.

We filmed the whole thing. Dave's an amazing cinematographer. He is like a child: he sees the world as a place filled with stars and moons and ideas. It very much rubbed off on me and all my people. Every night, my goddaughter would cater dinners for 10 or 12 people, and it reminded me of what I think it must have been like in Paris in the '20s, where you would have all those crazy artists: Coco Chanel and Man Ray, and [they] would sit around a big, long table and have these amazing dinners and talk about politics and art. We actually did that, and we filmed it. It was the way everybody should live. It was a sparkling moment that forever will live in my heart, and I want to leave this behind to the next generation.

The song 'Moonlight (Vampire's Dream)' was influenced by 'Twilight: New Moon,' and the album teaser, with its vampires, is a bit like 'True Blood.' The rise of fantasy in pop culture right now seems to resonate with your own longtime aesthetic. Is America catching up to you?

I think they are. The first and the third verse in 'Moonlight' were written in the mid-'70s. The second verse -- "She's lonely, lost, and disconnected" -- was written in Brisbane right after I saw the movie. So the song, really, is ancient times up to today.

The chorus -- "It's strange, she runs from the ones she can't keep up with" -- is all about the love affair between Bella and Edward [in 'New Moon']. But "Some call her strange lady from the mountains/Others say she's not really real," that's written in 1976. The same with the third verse: "He loves her, but he loves his life alone as well" -- people would think that was written about Edward, but it was written about Lindsey. So this really is an ancient song that encompasses my strange and everlasting relationship with Lindsey Buckingham, and Bella and Edward, all mixed into one.

There was something vampiric, then, between you and Lindsey?

It is! Our love affair. As much as we fight and have our differences of opinion on almost everything, if anything were to happen to either of us, I would be the first one there and he would be the first one here. So it is a story [about how] love never dies.

'Cheaper Than Free' ends 'In Your Dreams' and you and Dave Stewart sing, "What's more important than freedom?/Being needed." A simple couplet, but it sounds meaningful.

We went to Village Recorders [in L.A.] to do our basic drum and bass tracks, and Reese Witherspoon came down. Dave was [going to be] taking a week in Nashville to do some recording, and she said, "Well, I have a condo there, and if you want to stay there, you can." I said, "That would be cheap, Dave." And Reese said, "What's cheaper than free?" And Dave Stewart and Stevie Nicks looked at each other and went, "Oh my God! What a great country song this could be."

I thought it was going to be a tongue-in-cheek goofy song, and it ended up to be anything but. We were both very surprised. I believe in my heart that that song will live on forever. I said to everybody, "We have to really treat this song with kid gloves, because this may be the best song that [the duo of] Dave Stewart and Stevie Nicks ever does."

'In Your Dreams' is dedicated to "Sara, my sweet girl," tell me about her?

Sara was a girl that had a very rare kind of cancer, and our friend Lisa Loeb connected me and her parents. They brought her to a show, and we became very close. She was about 21 when I met her, and she'd been fighting this cancer since she was 17. I was in very close contact with her and her parents through three years. In 2008, [after a Fleetwood Mac tour], I flew to Pennsylvania and spent a day with her. She died three days later.

I lost my best friend to leukemia 30 years ago. There was a very similar feeling, except that when I lost Robin [Anderson], I was on the road and everybody was high, so it was horrible. I never got to really grieve about that because I was in the midst of this whole big Fleetwood Mac thing. But when Sara died, I was in Mexico in a very quiet house, and I was hit extremely hard. She loved my music so much, and she wanted me to do another record so much, and I was still on that "I'm never going to do another record" kick.

I just loved her so much, and it was very hard to lose her. She fought a really good fight between 17 and 24, and I dedicated the record to her because I felt in so many ways that it belonged to her.

Hence all the references to angels on the album?

Well, I don't know. I felt her presence very strongly when we were making this record, and I felt that if I'd had a daughter, she would have been very much like this girl. I will write a song about her the next time. I've written many, many poems about her, but to write a song about her -- I don't want it to be sad; I want it to be about how brilliant she was. That takes a little while.

Looking back on your life, is there one moment that makes you proudest or happiest?

The opposite of regret is this record, because I didn't really think it was possible to make a record like this. My greatest joy was that I was able to do something that proved I can continue to do this for another ten years. [Beforehand], I really felt I don't want to do this anymore, because it's just a lot of work, and I'm not very happy with what I come out with. Maybe I'm going to flip into "I'm an artist; I have 40 pieces of art that I think are really good," or "I'm a poet. I'm going to write a poetry book," or "I'm going to write the story of my life," or "I'm going to make a book of letters that I've written to people over the last 30 years."

This [album] has changed my life -- it has made me go, "I can't wait to make another record." I would like to start tomorrow, go back to my house and just tell everybody to be there Monday.

A lot of regrets that I had got wiped out by this last 12 months.

[CADreaming]

Exactly...I doubt that Stevie even remembers that little exchange the way that we do.

Only if she or their people are reading these boards and know exactly what we pick out and relate to them. They're not stupid. I did find that to be hilarious though. Either it was a PR person or Stevie was throwing the ball right at us.

[Ghost_Tracker]

Not to be too jaded, but I wonder if the record company reminded her to push the Lindsey Buckingham love/hate angst thingy for added publicity effect, or if she knows to do it herself by now? . . . . :angel:




pssst - I know someone from the chat room who asked her about it in person, and she started cracking up and said "girl, we broke up TWENTY-FIVE YEARS ago!"

[Ghosty]

hi summerlongboots! love your username!


i think they will always have a connection, they dreamed together, they had their dream come true together, they had up's and downs together, toured for years together. and she seems to keep her ex's still close in her thoughts. i guess when she sings those old songs all the time, it'd be hard not to.

[CADreaming]

Not to be too jaded, but I wonder if the record company reminded her to push the Lindsey Buckingham love/hate angst thingy for added publicity effect, or if she knows to do it herself by now? . . . . :angel:

Oh poo! Stop raining on the love parade! ;)



pssst - I know someone from the chat room who asked her about it in person, and she started cracking up and said "girl, we broke up TWENTY-FIVE YEARS ago!"

And what year did she say that?? :laugh:

[Ghosty]

i can't picture sn saying "girl, ....." anything. and she talks about many of her ex's all the time as if they just had a special moment, and how they'll be in love in a certain sense, so i couldn't picture her saying that. and to a fan -why say that if you're trying to create the illusion to your fans?

i dunno.

[WildHearted]

i can't picture sn saying "girl, ....." anything. and she talks about many of her ex's all the time as if they just had a special moment, and how they'll be in love in a certain sense, so i couldn't picture her saying that. and to a fan -why say that if you're trying to create the illusion to your fans?

i dunno.

Not too long ago - when doing promo for IYD/H&S, at the end of a radio interview the guy was like, "You've talked about Lindsey a lot so I just have to ask, do you still pine for him?" And Stevie goes, "Do I pine for him? No, we broke up 35 years ago!" and then went on to talk about how after all this time there's no way they couldn't be friends and a part of each others lives etc...

I just can't remember which radio interview it was, exactly, or else I would link it.

[CADreaming]

Not too long ago - when doing promo for IYD/H&S, at the end of a radio interview the guy was like, "You've talked about Lindsey a lot so I just have to ask, do you still pine for him?" And Stevie goes, "Do I pine for him? No, we broke up 35 years ago!" and then went on to talk about how after all this time there's no way they couldn't be friends and a part of each others lives etc...

I just can't remember which radio interview it was, exactly, or else I would link it.

Actually, she didn't give that time frame - she went back to the pat 'we broke up in 1976'...

Hilarious though.

[WildHearted]

Actually, she didn't give that time frame - she went back to the pat 'we broke up in 1976'...

Hilarious though.

My mistake - that was how I remembered it, but I only listened once and it was months ago! The way she said it was certainly funny, regardless. :lol:

[Ghosty]

pining is different, she hopefully doesn't pine for any ex's. but they must have some spot for each other, even if it's like ex-wife and ex-hubby. they spent so many years together, they grew into adults together. i'd imagine all of fleetwood mac must sort of have that family feeling with each other. and with lb and sn together before the mac too. i would think when you hit your dream like that with another person, there will always be that connection. doesn't have to be romantic, but some sort of love or some sort of ties.hopefully a friendship. it'd be nice to think they had that.

[WildHearted]

pining is different, she hopefully doesn't pine for any ex's. but they must have some spot for each other, even if it's like ex-wife and ex-hubby. they spent so many years together, they grew into adults together. i'd imagine all of fleetwood mac must sort of have that family feeling with each other. and with lb and sn together before the mac too. i would think when you hit your dream like that with another person, there will always be that connection. doesn't have to be romantic, but some sort of love or some sort of ties.hopefully a friendship. it'd be nice to think they had that.

I definitely think they do. Actually I think anyone who tries to dispute the above is really reaching.. they've been a part of each others lives (in and out, lol) for 45 years, have gone through everything they went through together, of course they have a connection and intense feelings for each other, romantic or not.

I was just saying that I wouldn't be too surprised nor concerned if Stevie said 'we broke up 25 years ago' depending on what was asked - the question was not specified in that story, just that it was about LB.

[Ghosty]

oh - i get ya now.

[Artemis]

Now, what REALLY annoys me about this article is the 'bed-hopping' line. They do this is every blimmin article about FM ever written, and as far as we know, apart from the legit couples, there was only ONE other hook-up in that band. One out of four other hetero possibilities:

Stevie and John? No.
Christine and Mick? No.
Christine and Lindsey? No.
Stevie and Mick? Yes.

People, they were hardly even trying.:rolleyes:

JUST saw this and had to comment. :laugh: While I agree that it's irritating when Fleetwood Mac are called "the most incestuous band in rock" I... don't think Stevie and Mick were the only hookup. If you google, there's a load of speculation that something happened with Christine and Lindsey in Switzerland (I thiiink). Although, I don't think Christine would do that to Stevie, I quite like the thought of Christine and Lindsey having an affair, mainly cause their musical chemistry is SOOO good, and I imagine it would spill over into the boudoir. :laugh:

[tabruns]

You're forgetting the affair between Lindsey and John.


Just kidding. :)

[michelej1]

You're forgetting the affair between Lindsey and John.


Just kidding. :)

Mick once described how he would curl up spooning with Peter when sleeping and said they were like brothers and I thought, "Well, that doesn't sound like brothers, exactly."

Michele

[louielouie2000]

Mick once described how he would curl up spooning with Peter when sleeping and said they were like brothers and I thought, "Well, that doesn't sound like brothers, exactly."

Michele

What a horrid visual. :eek: Now Mick's propensity to wear women's clothing suddenly all makes sense... :laugh:

And yeah, blech, I would never, EVER cuddle with my brother. That's just all kinds of oogie. :shocked:

[michelej1]

What a horrid visual. :eek: Now Mick's propensity to wear women's clothing suddenly all makes sense... :laugh:

And yeah, blech, I would never, EVER cuddle with my brother. That's just all kinds of oogie. :shocked:

This is Mick discussing Peter, from that Rock Family Tree interview:

I loved him. I adored him. You know, y'know I'll say it openly: we'd sleep together. You know and it was a brother thing. When it was cold, we'd curl up in bed together and keep warm, nothing sexual or anything. Don't get me wrong, but it was that close.

Hey, when it's cold at night, I guess you do what you gotta do.

Michele

[gypsy4life]

This HAS to be misquoted.
Stevie is much too classy, and just plain nice to say those outright things about Lohan. I mean, this is the woman who endured a truly "terrible" duet with Taylor Swift, knew it was terrible, and STILL managed to say nice things about her in magazines!!

The interview is probably paraphrased and misquoted to the point of falsehood.

[michelej1]

What exactly does eye-slashing mean?

:laugh: I know, right? I realize that she meant that they glare at each other with narrowed eyes (which they don't even do during that song anymore), but the way its phrased just makes it sound like they were so angry that eyes were cut.

Michele

[jellyman10]

While I agree that it's irritating when Fleetwood Mac are called "the most incestuous band in rock" I... don't think Stevie and Mick were the only hookup.

As much as I just said what I said, there's a quote from John that's always intrigued me. It's in one of the docs, either 'Don't Stop' or the Rumours 'Classic Albums', and he says something like 'I think the only two people who weren't at it were me and Mick'.

Now, it could be the way it's been edited, to make it look like a direct response to the voiceover talking about the craziness within the band at the time of Rumours, and that John was actually talking in a wider sense about the FM 'family' or the hedonism of '70s SoCal culture in general, but it's always made me think that, even as exaggeration for comic effect, it's some sort of an acknowledgement that there were other hook-ups?

And yes, I agree that Lindsey-Christine is far more likely than Christine-Mick. And I do wonder about Stevie-John. Even once. Just once?

[mezzoforte]

As much as I just said what I said, there's a quote from John that's always intrigued me. It's in one of the docs, either 'Don't Stop' or the Rumours 'Classic Albums', and he says something like 'I think the only two people who weren't at it were me and Mick'.

Now, it could be the way it's been edited, to make it look like a direct response to the voiceover talking about the craziness within the band at the time of Rumours, and that John was actually talking in a wider sense about the FM 'family' or the hedonism of '70s SoCal culture in general, but it's always made me think that, even as exaggeration for comic effect, it's some sort of an acknowledgement that there were other hook-ups?

And yes, I agree that Lindsey-Christine is far more likely than Christine-Mick. And I do wonder about Stevie-John. Even once. Just once?

I could be wrong, but I thought John said he and Lindsey were the only two who hadn't hooked up. So I guess John was sometimes included in those kinky Peter-Mick spooning parties.

Anyway, yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least one random, drunken hook-up between Stevie and John or Chris and Lindsey. Who was it who said something about how their collective flaw was their tendency to tiptoe into each other's rooms? Something like that. A really affair would surprise me, but a one-nighter wouldn't.

[kak125]

The biggest mistake I ever made was giving in to my friends and going to see a psychiatrist. It was in the mid-1980s, and I had just gotten out of Betty Ford. I was feeling buoyant and saved and fantastic. But everyone said, “We’re sure you’re going to start using again. You should go to a psychiatrist.” Finally, I said, “All right!” and went. What this man said was: “In order to keep you off cocaine we should put you on the drug that we’re using a lot these days called Klonopin.” Stupidly, I said, “All right.” And the next eight years of my life were destroyed.

Klonopin is in the Valium family, but Valium is fuzzy and Klonopin is insidious because it’s so subtle that you can hardly tell you took it. I got through 1986 and 1987. Thank God I’d already written the words for my record The Other Side of the Mirror. But what started happening was that if I didn’t take it, my hands started to shake. I felt like I had a neurological disease or Parkinson’s. I started not being able to get to Lindsey Buckingham’s house on time, and I would get there and everybody was drinking, so I’d have a glass of wine. Don’t mix tranquilizers and wine. Then I’d sing horrific parts on his songs, and he would take the parts off. I was hardly on Tango of the Night, which I happen to love.

The next six years were terrible. Looking back on it, I think this therapist was basically a groupie. He loved hearing stories of rock and roll and he started upping my dose. He watched me go from a beautiful, 125-pound, newly sober woman who had the world at her feet to a 170-pound woman who had the lights go out in her eyes.

Finally, in 1993, I’d had enough. I said, “Take me to a hospital.” I went in for 47 days, and it made Betty Ford look like a cakewalk. My hair turned gray and my skin molted. I could hardly walk. You can detox off heroin in 12 days. Coke is just a mental detox. But tranquilizers—they are dangerous. I was terrified to leave, and I came away knowing that that would never happen to me again.

I learned so much in that hospital. I wrote the whole time I was there, stuff that I consider to be some of my best writing ever. I learned that I could have fun and laugh and cry with amazing people and not be on drugs. I learned that I could live my life and still be beautiful and fun and still go to parties and not even have to have a glass of wine. I never went to therapy again after that—why would I?

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/01/my-favorite-mistake-stevie-nicks.html

[AnthonyMI]

I learned that I could have fun and laugh and cry with amazing people and not be on drugs. I learned that I could live my life and still be beautiful and fun and still go to parties and not even have to have a glass of wine. I

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/01/my-favorite-mistake-stevie-nicks.html


AMEN!


Lindsey Lohan, and pretty much every teenager on the planet, needs to hear these words more often

[tabruns]

The biggest mistake I ever made was giving in to my friends and going to see a psychiatrist. It was in the mid-1980s, and I had just gotten out of Betty Ford. I was feeling buoyant and saved and fantastic. But everyone said, “We’re sure you’re going to start using again. You should go to a psychiatrist.” Finally, I said, “All right!” and went. What this man said was: “In order to keep you off cocaine we should put you on the drug that we’re using a lot these days called Klonopin.” Stupidly, I said, “All right.” And the next eight years of my life were destroyed.

Klonopin is in the Valium family, but Valium is fuzzy and Klonopin is insidious because it’s so subtle that you can hardly tell you took it. I got through 1986 and 1987. Thank God I’d already written the words for my record The Other Side of the Mirror. But what started happening was that if I didn’t take it, my hands started to shake. I felt like I had a neurological disease or Parkinson’s. I started not being able to get to Lindsey Buckingham’s house on time, and I would get there and everybody was drinking, so I’d have a glass of wine. Don’t mix tranquilizers and wine. Then I’d sing horrific parts on his songs, and he would take the parts off. I was hardly on Tango of the Night, which I happen to love.

The next six years were terrible. Looking back on it, I think this therapist was basically a groupie. He loved hearing stories of rock and roll and he started upping my dose. He watched me go from a beautiful, 125-pound, newly sober woman who had the world at her feet to a 170-pound woman who had the lights go out in her eyes.

Finally, in 1993, I’d had enough. I said, “Take me to a hospital.” I went in for 47 days, and it made Betty Ford look like a cakewalk. My hair turned gray and my skin molted. I could hardly walk. You can detox off heroin in 12 days. Coke is just a mental detox. But tranquilizers—they are dangerous. I was terrified to leave, and I came away knowing that that would never happen to me again.

I learned so much in that hospital. I wrote the whole time I was there, stuff that I consider to be some of my best writing ever. I learned that I could have fun and laugh and cry with amazing people and not be on drugs. I learned that I could live my life and still be beautiful and fun and still go to parties and not even have to have a glass of wine. I never went to therapy again after that—why would I?

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/01/my-favorite-mistake-stevie-nicks.html

"Tango of the Night"?

Well I guess this explains why Stevie's vocals are largely absent from the Tango In The Night album.

[Kena]

Call me crazy :shocked:, but I absolutely believe that any kind of hook up that could have happened did... Stevie and Christine hooked up with all the boys sometime or another. C'mon now...would you hook up with each of them? I sure would. They each have their own special charm. Although we don't hear many specific details about any hook ups outside of the relationships - other than Stevie and Mick - does everyone know every person you've ever hooked up with?

Maybe my mind ain't right but I rather like the idea of Stevie's promiscuousness - she does it so well - because she's not a ho, rather a woman who was comfortable in her body and herself that she shared herself with many many many mens. A lover of making love. Or a ho. Depends on your view of things. Anyways, you can't blame it on her, blame it on her wild heart.

[TheWILDheart]

I love that she is a TINT fan. This is a great piece and I'm so happy to see that she is proud of herself for pulling herself through it. GO STEVIE!!

[jellyman10]

Call me crazy :shocked:, but I absolutely believe that any kind of hook up that could have happened did... Stevie and Christine hooked up with all the boys sometime or another. C'mon now...would you hook up with each of them? I sure would. They each have their own special charm. Although we don't hear many specific details about any hook ups outside of the relationships - other than Stevie and Mick - does everyone know every person you've ever hooked up with?

Maybe my mind ain't right but I rather like the idea of Stevie's promiscuousness - she does it so well - because she's not a ho, rather a woman who was comfortable in her body and herself that she shared herself with many many many mens. A lover of making love. Or a ho. Depends on your view of things. Anyways, you can't blame it on her, blame it on her wild heart.

Amen. I agree with you, especially about Stevie - 'a lover of making love' is an excellent description. :nod:

My gripe was really with the way that rumours (yes, that word) have become fact. It is just routinely reported that they were all bed-hopping with each other as if it's all been admitted, when it really hasn't. And while I can totally dig indulging in speculation here on the Ledge, with fellow FM geeks who've read every word these people have ever uttered, I get tired of reading articles that are clearly just repeating previous assertions. But then I kind of do suspect there were more hook-ups than we know about, so now I've just confused myself...:o

[Artemis]

I guess we'll just have to wait another 20 years for Stevie's autobiography, I'm sure it'll be scandalous. Although, I'd be far more interested in Stevie's "little black book" as it were :laugh:

[michelej1]

It sounds like the therapist was a bigger problem than the Klonopin itself. I wonder if he's still practicing.

Michele

[Annabell Lee]

He was clearly a fame chasing whore who wanted to get " close " to someone like Stevie. Why else would he continue to pick her brain for stories, rumors, etc. ? I have to wonder if he's still practicing............ :mad:

[studyinscarlet]

Stevie needs to own her Klonopin addiction. 'It's the therapists fault...' is old. You abuse a drug yourself. If you don't like the med don't take it. Take only the prescribed dosage. Giving an addict an addictive drug was stupid, but it's basically the addict's fault if they abuse.

[Josh2003]

Stevie needs to own her Klonopin addiction. 'It's the therapists fault...' is old. You abuse a drug yourself. If you don't like the med don't take it. Take only the prescribed dosage. Giving an addict an addictive drug was stupid, but it's basically the addict's fault if they abuse.

Wow, long time no see! Welcome back!

[jannieC]

It sounds like the therapist was a bigger problem than the Klonopin itself. I wonder if he's still practicing.

Michele

I know, right? Ouch. I wonder how I would feel treating someone famous.

[Chris_Sydney]

Great to hear she is fond of 'Tango In The Night' as an album. I always wondered whether there was some bitterness towards that record because of everything that was happening at the time.


x

[RockALittle250]

Here's an interview that Stevie did with E! regarding Glee. It's a "fireside chat". One of her 46 i'm assuming ;)

http://nickslive.blogspot.com/2011/05/video-new-footage-of-stevie-nicks.html

[louielouie2000]

Oh good, she put the giant roller thingies in her hair before she did this interview. I like it when Stevie's hair has some waves in it :)

[WildHearted]

Why is it that in these interviews her eyes look HUGE, but when she's on stage it's like she can barely open them?

She looks pretty :) But she definitely sounds a little sick.. poor thing.

[DarkUponLight]

Oh good, she put the giant roller thingies in her hair before she did this interview. I like it when Stevie's hair has some waves in it :)

You & me, both. I think this is the best her hair has looked since Soundstage. I love the waves in Storytellers too. :thumbsup:

[DarkUponLight]

Why is it that in these interviews her eyes look HUGE, but when she's on stage it's like she can barely open them?


Probably because when she's in interview settings, she doesn't have big huge annoying spotlights on her the way she does onstage. Those stage lights are intense. They are like headlights, only brighter & they pack a lotta heat too.

[Josh2003]

I wonder if this interview was part of the whirlwind "46 interviews in 48 hours" that allegedly contributed to her illness.

She does sound like she's a little under the weather. Her voice sounds a bit raspier/nasally...like she might have a cold.

[fumidesigns]

Probably because when she's in interview settings, she doesn't have big huge annoying spotlights on her the way she does onstage. Those stage lights are intense. They are like headlights, only brighter & they pack a lotta heat too.

i was just about to say this. those lights are a killer.........

[michelej1]

And yes, I agree that Lindsey-Christine is far more likely than Christine-Mick. And I do wonder about Stevie-John. Even once. Just once?

I think of John picking a giggling Stevie up during the Tusk photo shoot and I remember Mick saying that Stevie and John spent hours laughing over a Playboy magazine when they were both high. I can see something happening between them when they were under the influence.

And I wouldn't bet everything that Christine and Lindsey had never been intimate.

But yes, I can't imagine a Christine/Mick attraction on either side. Michele