Bin Laden : Dead

[mikephxaz]

interesting that her newest album will released ten years after september 11 2001 and now Usama's death a decade later..she often speaks of how difficult it was to tour during those sad days...now a bit of a celebration

[cristochango]

Remember when South Park did that episode "Osama Bin Laden has farty pants" Where he kidnapped Stevie?

Paybacks a b*tch :D

[ontheEdgeof17]

http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/world/asia/osama-bin-laden-is-killed.html&OQ=_rQ3D1Q26hp&OP=7a6de3e1Q2FfYBDfhQ3DQ60HQ3CQ3DQ3DSqfq633f6gf6qfYQ3DQ3CmhfbH0bfQ3DHbzbpD0MpmbhBMp0HpQ2B0mmBhaQ7ESz m

[mikephxaz]

Remember when South Park did that episode "Osama Bin Laden has farty pants" Where he kidnapped Stevie?

Paybacks a b*tch :D

tooo funnny...that will teach him!

[Artemis]

Wait. What? I feel like I've missed something here.

[LikeAWillow]

****, man. I don't know what else to say. It's been ten years.

[mikephxaz]

turn on the news...hes dead..our missles killed him

[bluefox4000]

He's been reported dead.....nothing confirmed.

Mick

[gldstwmn]

God bless America.

[mikephxaz]

He's been reported dead.....nothing confirmed.

Mick

its confirmed dna test took place all last week

[ontheEdgeof17]

Personally, I don't find this topic a laughing matter. I feel less secure right now, than any moment before. Repercussion could be around the corner.

[mikephxaz]

Personally, I don't find this topic a laughing matter. I feel less secure right now, than any moment before. Reprecussion could be around the corner.

a very bad man was killed...take a deep breath and say a prayer for the families who lost their loved ones on that day and celebrate and laugh:blob2:

[bluefox4000]

its confirmed dna test took place all last week

Yea just heard now.....good riddance.

Mick

[ontheEdgeof17]

celebrate and laugh:blob2:

No thanks.

[Artemis]

Personally, I don't find this topic a laughing matter. I feel less secure right now, than any moment before. Reprecussion could be around the corner.

I have to agree with you. While the world is certainly a better place without this evil, evil man, you have to wonder how those loyal to him will respond, or who will take his place as head of that organisation.

I hate to be a Debbie-Downer, I really do, but I don't think it's a laughing matter. While his death is, obviously, going to make many people happy, I don't think it's the end of everything. :(

[mylittledemon]

I guess Obama is getting re-elected eh :lol:

[gldstwmn]

I'm thinking of the families of the victims of 9/11.

[ontheEdgeof17]

I hate to be a Debbie-Downer, I really do, but I don't think it's a laughing matter. While his death is, obviously, going to make many people happy, I don't think it's the end of everything. :(

You're right. It's not like they don't have other evil lining up to take his place.

We are going to let down our guard and let disaster right back in, I'm afraid.

[mezzoforte]

My brother and dad just ran into my room and we joined in singing "America! F*** YEAH!" à la Team America.

We were excited and making light of it, but on reflection I think Curtis is right: it's not really a laughing matter and we probably are in more danger right now--especially being in New York.
I really don't know how to feel, actually.

[gldstwmn]

I guess Obama is getting re-elected eh :lol:

Oh yeah. They found him in a mansion in Islamabad. This is going to put a huge strain on our relationship with Pakistan.

[gldstwmn]

Personally, I don't find this topic a laughing matter. I feel less secure right now, than any moment before. Repercussion could be around the corner.

Perfectly reasonable response...the Pentagon feels the same way.

[ontheEdgeof17]

...the Pentagon feels the same way.

That's a relief. :lol:

I just hope people realize that the symbol of evil has died, not the evil, itself. It's still a good feeling, though.

[LikeAWillow]

I just hope people realize that the symbol of evil has died, not the evil, itself. It's still a good feeling, though.

Agreed. I've been saying that he's the symptom, not the disease. Obviously, my heart goes out to 9/11 victims and their familes tonight-- how could it not? But I don't know what all this changes.

[bluefox4000]

never let your guard down. someone else will come along. they always do:distress:

Mick

[Josh2003]

If 9/11 ruined Trouble in Shangri-La for Stevie, how soon until she starts saying that the death of Bin Laden ruined In Your Dreams?

:lol:

Too soon?

[fumidesigns]

All I can say is "pray" guys! This is nothing to laugh about at all!!! I'm beyond worried!

[Musicman408]

God Bless America and the world! This is great news!

[gldstwmn]

That's a relief. :lol:

I just hope people realize that the symbol of evil has died, not the evil, itself. It's still a good feeling, though.

There's a crowd of people outside the White House singing the national anthem. after everything we've been through in the last ten years I think the country needs to collectively exhale. And good riddance to bad rubbish. I don't feel happy, in fact I feel more moved to tears. But if we are attacked again then it's all for naught. It's going to take a while to process this information. That one event changed the lives of every single one of us. I can only imagine that it must have felt like this when Germany fell in the second world war and Hitler committed suicide. I'm sure people wondered if there was going to be more. We'll have to wait and see what the president says. In the coming days we'll know much, much more.

[ontheEdgeof17]

She needs to pull out Soldier's Angel pronto!

[bluefox4000]

i don't see cause for celebration......i'm scared sh*tless

Mick

[CADreaming]

If 9/11 ruined Trouble in Shangri-La for Stevie, how soon until she starts saying that the death of Bin Laden ruined In Your Dreams?

:lol:

Too soon?

Oh geesh... :laugh:

[fumidesigns]

i don't see cause for celebration......i'm scared sh*tless

Mick

Me too!!!!!!!!!

[tabruns]

If 9/11 ruined Trouble in Shangri-La for Stevie, how soon until she starts saying that the death of Bin Laden ruined In Your Dreams?

:lol:

Too soon?

This is stupid. She actually has a point about TISL. It went Gold with a month after release. The sales slowed down significantly after that, which is debatable as to the 9/11 connection, but its true that her tour was thrown off significantly and commerce DID slow down a lot shortly after 9/11. I think she has a point.

[LikeAWillow]

This is stupid. She actually has a point about TISL. It went Gold with a month after release. The sales slowed down significantly after that, which is debatable as to the 9/11 connection, but its true that her tour was thrown off significantly and commerce DID slow down a lot shortly after 9/11. I think she has a point.

I'm sorry but who.cares?

[mylittledemon]

I thought it was because she shipped half a million copies but then it never shipped anymore...?

Ding dong Osama's dead.

I'm not rejoicing though.

[Josh2003]

Oh.

I was not intending for this to be a chit-chat topic, more of a joke about Stevie, but if the Moderators see fit to move it here, I guess that's out of my hands.

[Josh2003]

This is stupid. She actually has a point about TISL. It went Gold with a month after release. The sales slowed down significantly after that, which is debatable as to the 9/11 connection, but its true that her tour was thrown off significantly and commerce DID slow down a lot shortly after 9/11. I think she has a point.

Oh grow up. I was making a joke about the irony around the timing of this event.

[mylittledemon]

Oh.

I was not intending for this to be a chit-chat topic, more of a joke about Stevie, but if the Moderators see fit to move it here, I guess that's out of my hands.

I thought it was funny actually which is why I moved it here ;)

[estranged4life]

When McVeigh was executed not many here celebrated...The terror outlived the act.

Like many I am concerned now, I'm not dancing with joy with his killing.




Back to the underground...

[Josh2003]

I thought it was funny actually which is why I moved it here ;)

I can't argue with that logic ;-)

[mylittledemon]

I can't argue with that logic ;-)

haha yes I thought your joke was more weighty here. I guess time will tell. :lol:

[Josh2003]

I agree with those who have expressed discomfort at the celebrations that are going on.

Am I happy that justice has been served? Absolutely.

But to grave dance in the manner that some people are...I just find appalling.

And as even as a die-hard Democrat, it SICKENS me that so many people are talking about this as an Obama victory, or a Bush failure. This is a serious time for America, and HARDLY the place to point political fingers.

[Josh2003]

haha yes I thought your joke was more weighty here. I guess time will tell. :lol:

...or more offensive :-X

[mylittledemon]

exactly! LOL :lol:

[LikeAWillow]

Really, someone explain the humor to me. A man is dead. There are thousands who died with under his influence and the influence of others of similar beliefs. I like to think I can sense a good joke. Where's this one at?

[Enchanted_Stevi]

Whoa...I would have never known unless 7 news sent breaking news to Ashley's phone....cuz I probs wouldnt even gone on fb or anything since I'm getting ready for bed..

I actually dont know how to respond to this...I am really scared that they might retaliate, yet i'm rather relieved that he's finally dead..

[louielouie2000]

I'm simply listening to Soldier's Angel & Illume, remembering 9/11 and am contemplating all those who have served our country in uniform. This is a triumphant & powerful day to be an American indeed.

[mylittledemon]

Really, someone explain the humor to me. A man is dead. There are thousands who died with under his influence and the influence of others of similar beliefs. I like to think I can sense a good joke. Where's this one at?

josh and i were joking about stevie's sales... but as for Bin Laden I don't find it funny. I was neither happy nor sad to hear about his death.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Other May 1st Events:


1945: Death of Hilter


2003 – 2003 invasion of Iraq: In what becomes known as the "Mission Accomplished" speech, on board the USS Abraham Lincoln (off the coast of California), U.S. President George W. Bush declares that "major combat operations in Iraq have ended".

[mylittledemon]

Hitler died on April 30th. :sorry:

Oh and it's May 2nd here... so did the news break on the 1st or the 2nd? Hmm... ;)

[ontheEdgeof17]

Hitler died on April 30th. :sorry:

Oh and it's May 2nd here... so did the news break on the 1st or the 2nd? Hmm... ;)

Yeah...but it wasnt announced until the 1st.

bin Laden's been dead a week, at least.

[mylittledemon]

pff... Bin Laden's been a zombie for the last couple of years. I bet it'll come out that they've had his head/brain in a glass jar. ;)

[delongpre]

Tonight the announcement of Osama Bin Laden's demise was all over our TVs. We know how 9-11 afffected Stevie and that she was here during that time, feeling that energy. How appropriate that she be back here this week as we come full circle at the news of tonight! Looks like this album will be surrounded by a lot of emotional cleansing!

[BombaySapphire3]

Oddly the first thing I thought of was ..you can stick a fork in the rather dubious lineup of Republican Presidential candidates for 2012..they're done.

[louielouie2000]

It feels like with this one event that America has instantly entered into a new era, and can start to repair the pain & bridge the divides of this past decade.

[mylittledemon]

God I hope that's true. America has felt like a different place (and justifiably so) for a loooooooong time.

[louielouie2000]

God I hope that's true. America has felt like a different place (and justifiably so) for a loooooooong time.

Yes. It's been like being on the other side of the mirror... in a very dark parallel universe. It feels like "the ghost is gone" now, though. I hope we can all learn to treat each other better once again.

[mezzoforte]

I hope so. And I hope that this brings some closure for all of us (I think we can assume that everyone was affected in some way), and especially for the families of those who died on 9/11 and since then.

But I can't help but be skeptical that this really changes things. I don't think we're any safer for it, and I don't think the world is safer for democracy, really. The forces that led to 9/11 are still very much alive, and there's not a real fix for that on the horizon.

Still, I can't help but be grateful that we won't approach the 10th anniversary with the knowledge that he's still out there.

God I'm so jumbled. I don't know if I'm making any sense.

[mylittledemon]

mezzo, i think you are right to be skeptical. It's probably more likely that someone worse will rise to take Bin Laden's place than for this to be the end of it.

[louielouie2000]

I hope so. And I hope that this brings some closure for all of us (I think we can assume that everyone was affected in some way), and especially for the families of those who died on 9/11 and since then.

But I can't help but be skeptical that this really changes things. I don't think we're any safer for it, and I don't think the world is safer for democracy, really. The forces that led to 9/11 are still very much alive, and there's not a real fix for that on the horizon.

Still, I can't help but be grateful that we won't approach the 10th anniversary with the knowledge that he's still out there.

God I'm so jumbled. I don't know if I'm making any sense.

You're 100% right about this. We're not more safe because Bin Laden is dead. This doesn't mean the world reverts back to the way it was on September 10, 2001, either. But this IS a definitive moment. The man who masterminded the killing of 3,000 Americans (and subsequently thousands of others in the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan) is now dead. This can be the unity event we've all been hoping for. We finally have peace of mind that the man who assaulted & forever changed our country has been brought to justice. Now we can hopefully move on with our lives and begin focusing on the many other big issues that challenge us. No, the war on terrorism isn't over. It probably never will be. But the hunt for Bin Laden finally is. :nod:

[Meowi]

Personally, I don't think it is a laughing matter or a reason to celebrate. As an Australian, I don't know what to say because no one I knew was struck in the tragedies of terrorism.

[HomerMcvie]

This is stupid. She actually has a point about TISL. It went Gold with a month after release. The sales slowed down significantly after that, which is debatable as to the 9/11 connection, but its true that her tour was thrown off significantly and commerce DID slow down a lot shortly after 9/11. I think she has a point.

Does this mean that Steve E. is the catalyst for destruction?:mad:

[greatdarkwing]

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8950354-big-day-for-us-military-obama-bigger-day-for-stevie-nicks
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Johnny Stew]

Funny that someone other than us die-hard fans noticed that. I just posted about it in the IYD chart position thread. Truth be told, it has me kind of puzzled too.

[louielouie2000]

For those who want to discuss the more political aspects of this news development, please do so in the thread located in the Chit Chat section:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=46934

Let's please keep the Stevie Nicks board dedicated to Stevie Nicks. Anything goes in Chit Chat, though. :thumbsup:

[louielouie2000]

Funny that someone other than us die-hard fans noticed that. I just posted about it in the IYD chart position thread. Truth be told, it has me kind of puzzled too.

I wonder if that's demographics at work? She's not trending on google. Obviously this doesn't apply to you at all, but when I think of those who use yahoo I think of older, more traditional people. Which is perhaps more of a Stevie demographic? :shrug:

[mylittledemon]

The gastric bypass being in the top 10 made me :lol:

[louielouie2000]

The gastric bypass being in the top 10 made me :lol:

Says a lot about our society and priorities, doesn't it? Not to mention gastric bypass was trending more than gas prices... which are hitting $4/gallon across the US, threatening to stall our very tepid economic recovery.

And Paris Hilton and Katie Holmes are trending more than Mother's Day. Wow. Another indication of our priorities.

And a pop album is bigger news than the most reviled villain in the world being killed after a 10 year hunt. Am I the only one who finds this extremely disturbing? :distress:

[mylittledemon]

We pay about $8 a gallon, I don't wanna hear it! :lol:

[mezzoforte]

These questions come up every time "trending" does.
"What are our priorities?" "Why does everyone care so much about third nipples?" "Is 'Miley Cyrus toe ring' really more important that a presidential primary?" etc.

And listen: I get it. I definitely thought it was weird that Stevie was trending higher than Bin Laden. But troubling as the implication may be, I don't think we need to fret for our national character, or anything. We're looking a comparatively small sliver of the population (Do you yahoo? I don't!). I'm pretty sure that if you actually polled Americans, 99.99% would consider the death of Bin Laden to be more important. And just because people are looking up Katie Holmes more often than Mother's Day doesn't necessarily mean they consider her more important.
I mean, I love my mother--she's very possibly my favorite human. But I can't say I've felt the need to look up Mother's Day on a search engine lately. And I probably have looked up some random s***. Doesn't mean I consider "sand swallow nesting" more important. In fact, it really doesn't mean anything at all.
Maybe Katie Holmes is just all kinds of fun to yahoo?:shrug::p

Anyway, just my opinion.

[StandbackStevie]

It's great they captured and killed Bin Laden but It doesn't mean an end to terrorists It wouldn't surprise me someone else will popp up and be just as bad if not worst than him. why bury his body at sea so soon they killed him last week on Easter and now making announcement that he died they should show the world his dead body.

[ButterCookie]

I actually whispered "God Bless America" upon reading this title. But I agree that it's not funny and is scary, too. My thoughts will be with every citizen of the USA, the families and survivors of 9/11 and every other good soul on this earth until this awful mess goes far far away into a nice little void in time and space.

[McTrouble]

Personally, I don't find this topic a laughing matter. I feel less secure right now, than any moment before. Repercussion could be around the corner.

My first thoughts too - what is going to be unleashed now?

[McTrouble]

You're right. It's not like they don't have other evil lining up to take his place.

We are going to let down our guard and let disaster right back in, I'm afraid.

I am hoping it will be just the opposite - security will be upped for sure.

[GODDESS6]

Now I lay me down to sleep, one less terrorist this world does keep. With all my heart I give my thanks, to those in uniform regardless of ranks. You serve our country and serve it well, with humble hearts your stories tell. So as I rest my weary eyes, while freedom rings our flag still flies. You give your all, do what you must...with God we live and God we trust. Amen. ~ STAND UP FOR OUR TROOPS

[Silver Springs]

I have to agree with you. While the world is certainly a better place without this evil, evil man, you have to wonder how those loyal to him will respond, or who will take his place as head of that organisation.

I hate to be a Debbie-Downer, I really do, but I don't think it's a laughing matter. While his death is, obviously, going to make many people happy, I don't think it's the end of everything. :(

I couldn't agree more. Though he's gone he still has masses of followers who fight in his name. His death most probably will add fuel to their fire and just incite further hatred towards those they fight against. Having said that, I suppose even without them, in the world as it stands today there's always a reason to be afraid.

[sparky]

Now I lay me down to sleep, one less terrorist this world does keep. With all my heart I give my thanks, to those in uniform regardless of ranks. You serve our country and serve it well, with humble hearts your stories tell. So as I rest my weary eyes, while freedom rings our flag still flies. You give your all, do what you must...with God we live and God we trust. Amen. ~ STAND UP FOR OUR TROOPS


I agree with this also.

I will never agree with all our military does, but after hearing Soldier's Angel and having a few buddies who have been there and back...I agree. I have no idea what this means. And no one walks away from this battle, though a few of my buddies have.

The battle rages on and I know not who is righteous and who is not.

But this is a victory.

I only wish I knew how much the sacrifice meant. And what it has been for. For a few friends of mine never returned and I still stand here wondering why I lost them, and what that means. I hope they died for the right thing. I may never know. I am glad this horrible man is gone. I only wonder if the loss of my buddies makes it worth it. Personally I cannot measure the loss. Good men. Sweet and honest men who committed themselves for a larger cause. In the big picture I may never know. None of my buddies made it to Walter Reed or got a Stevie Ipod. They were lost in the desert. I hope their loss makes a difference as their loss to me meant the world.

The World. To Me.

I pray it was worth it.

[GODDESS6]

there is closure & yes happiness in osama death~ but i don't think americans are taking this lightly~ i know i'm not sitting here thinking it's over..."check please", not at all~ you know there is going to be an attempt at retaliation, this scares me to death~ but i'd be lying if i didn't say i sighed a big sigh of relief when i saw the news, that osama is no longer~

i deal w/ our troops on a daily basis~ i run a daycare for military babies, i live a mile from SAC offutt air force base~ thankfully everyone of my parents & friends who have served over there have come home alive & in one piece~ some of them have friends & comrades that weren't so lucky~ we had a rash of soldier's funeral here this past two weeks, a whole group hit by an IED~ was so sad seeing the bodies returned & the services held for them~

every time i hear of yet another soldiers death i can't help but weep for them, i want them home~

[RickRobert]

Good :wavey:

[bluefox4000]

terrorists are like whack-a-mole. you get rid of one....5 more will pop up.....this is NOT an end to evil. I believe we better strap in.

Mick

[Josh2003]

For those who want to discuss the more political aspects of this news development, please do so in the thread located in the Chit Chat section:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=46934

Let's please keep the Stevie Nicks board dedicated to Stevie Nicks. Anything goes in Chit Chat, though. :thumbsup:

I tried, but it got moved over here!

[skcin]

That's a relief. :lol:

I just hope people realize that the symbol of evil has died, not the evil, itself. It's still a good feeling, though.

Agreed.


So the consipracy theorists already started this morning - saying he's not dead since they didn't give the media a photo of his corpse. :rolleyes:

[ontheEdgeof17]

So the consipracy theorists already started this morning - saying he's not dead since they didn't give the media a photo of his corpse. :rolleyes:

As far as I know, he was only identified by his face. No one is talking if DNA was really obtained or not. He was quickly buried. Shady.

[skcin]

As far as I know, he was only identified by his face. No one is talking if DNA was really obtained or not. He was quickly buried. Shady.

I heard dna was obtained & matched to a sister's dna that the U.S. had. Then he was "buried at sea."

[ontheEdgeof17]

I heard dna was obtained & matched to a sister's dna that the U.S. had. Then he was "buried at sea."

You're right. They confirmed it about an hour ago.

[johnb84]

I like that he was buried at sea so that no place could become a shrine to this monster. I wonder if it was recorded or documented in some way. You are essentially throwing away the symbol of pure evil and you're just throwing him in the sea?!

[CreepingDeath]

Good riddance.

[mylittledemon]

I tried, but it got moved over here!

haha... that's what Louie was saying... that it should be moved (which I did)... I don't think Louie can move things in the Stevie forum. Only me. ME!!!!! (smacks gavel down) ;)

[mylittledemon]

I like that he was buried at sea so that no place could become a shrine to this monster. I wonder if it was recorded or documented in some way. You are essentially throwing away the symbol of pure evil and you're just throwing him in the sea?!

I kinda think they should've just blasted him out into space. You know, like what happens to your poo and pee when using the toilet on an airplane. FAWOOOSH!

[louielouie2000]

I don't think Louie can move things in the Stevie forum. Only me. ME!!!!! (smacks gavel down) ;)

Correct. Throw the book at these darn kids! ;) :lol:

I kinda think they should've just blasted him out into space. You know, like what happens to your poo and pee when using the toilet on an airplane. FAWOOOSH!

I like the idea of his body burning up in reentry into the atmosphere. But then having that evil rain down upon the globe? *shudder* :( I like the idea of his body rotting and turning into crab food better.

[mylittledemon]

I like the idea of his body rotting and turning into crab food better.

Why don't they just get Superman to fly his body into the sun?

[louielouie2000]

Wow, so apparently bin Laden used one of his wives as a human shield when the bullets started flying:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/02/brennan-we-would-have-taken-bin-laden-alive_n_856541.html

What a freaking COWARD!! Wow.

[Macfanforever]

Good Riddance.

[Villavic]

First of all.. I must say I'm glad he finally was shot down, though my mood was never in a "celebrate" status.

however... This article is interesting.

What is fair, right, justifiable... not necessarily is within the legal..
Wether is an act of war or not is a key legal circumstances because an armed combatant in the context of a war can be legally shot. Not the suspect or convicted of a crime, which must be brought to justice, trial.

http://www.suite101.com/content/was-the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden-legal-a369000

[Villavic]

I coldn't find this BBC page in english, but it's exactly what I was afraid of. This attitude will generate nothing but more hate, violence, and murders from the extremists.

Bin Laden death on sale! Less than 3 hours after the President announcement, merchandise is available: T-shirts, mugs, hats, stickers, bags:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/noticias/2011/05/110502_obama_muerte_ventas_marketing_jmp.shtml

I can't imagine myself drinking my coffee in a mug with this topic. It's completely understandable that the american people may see this new with.. joy, or satisfaction. But IMHO it should be a bit more sober, discret.

[bluefox4000]

I coldn't find this BBC page in english, but it's exactly what I was afraid of. This attitude will generate nothing but more hate, violence, and murders from the extremists.

Bin Laden death on sale! Less than 3 hours after the President announcement, merchandise is available: T-shirts, mugs, hats, stickers, bags:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/noticias/2011/05/110502_obama_muerte_ventas_marketing_jmp.shtml

I can't imagine myself drinking my coffee in a mug with this topic. It's completely understandable that the american people may see this new with.. joy, or satisfaction. But IMHO it should be a bit more sober, discret.

This stuff......sorry to say makes me not so proud to live here. How stupid is that? We did not end terror. This blind celebration makes me sick......sorry but it does:distress:

Mick

[mylittledemon]

Why in the hell did they bury him already? I've heard the excuse that he's supposed to be buried within 24 hrs due to some tradition... what the--? So what proof is there that he is in fact dead, and that it is Bin Laden that they've killed? :distress:

[GODDESS6]

Why in the hell did they bury him already? I've heard the excuse that he's supposed to be buried within 24 hrs due to some tradition... what the--? So what proof is there that he is in fact dead, and that it is Bin Laden that they've killed? :distress:

they matched his dna w/ brain tissue they had from his sister~

they also said burial at sea was because he had to be buried 24 hours after death & they didn't want a grave for people to go to & no country wanted his body~

[mylittledemon]

So there's no real proof that it was him, then? I mean, that's what that says to me.

Unless- they use his brain tissue to clone a new version of his head! Of course... without the beard people might not recognize him... Hmm...

[Villavic]

So there's no real proof that it was him, then? I mean, that's what that says to me.

Unless- they use his brain tissue to clone a new version of his head! Of course... without the beard people might not recognize him... Hmm...

It will be like the Anastasia mistery. They compared an Anna Anderson tissue with a relative but when Anna was already dead (the tissue was kept in a hospital from an old surgery.. I never knew hospitals keeps tissue from patients:confused:). The analysis said Annas was not Annastasia. But who knows? In this case it's a far more serious dilemma

It's true about the islamic tradition of burying within 24 hr, but why they respected that, and not other factors in this episode?? Hummm....

[Lee]

Well, I'm glad he's dead & they were just a little too nice about the way they disposed of his body, JMO. The people on 9/11 didn't get a proper burial.

As far as celebrating his death, well, not so fast. You are always going to have some nut job ready to replace him. Nothing will be the same again & it (terrorism) will never end.

Lee :(

[Bryan]

He's been dead for a number of years.
Looks like Obama & co. just secured their places for the next term.What a desperate move.Spinning a story about killing the big bad man who was out to get you.:rolleyes:
I hate the way they play people in politics.And it works a treat every time

[mylittledemon]

He's been dead for a number of years.

That could very well be the truth... especially since the world didn't see his body.

"Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles, lest the Lord see it and be displeased, and turn away his anger from him."

[Villavic]

That could very well be the truth... especially since the world didn't see his body.

"Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles, lest the Lord see it and be displeased, and turn away his anger from him."

Who knows? If nobody saw his body, he may have been dead for years, or maybe he's alive living in Borneo. It's like saying Adolf Hitler died in Argentina in 1964. These doubts could produce speculation for years.

I like your phrase between quotes!

[LittleCharmer]

"Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles, lest the Lord see it and be displeased, and turn away his anger from him."

I'm not normally one for Bible quotes, but the first part of this sums up my feelings about this. Yes, he was a hideous scumbag and undoubtedly deserves what he's received, but to actively celebrate anybody's death is, in my eyes, a vile reaction.

Also, as many have said, my first reaction was 'How can people genuinely believe this is the end of terrorism and everything's going to be alright now?'

The whole thing makes me horribly uneasy.

[Villavic]

Also, as many have said, my first reaction was 'How can people genuinely believe this is the end of terrorism and everything's going to be alright now?'


Depends on the terrorist group organization. In this case I'm afraid they are well organized, enough to continue their activities.

Peru suffered of terrorism for more than 10 years, since the early 80s. Unlike the US, we suffered attacks continuosly within our country. They were peruvians living in Peru, not foreign people visiting our country sometimes. Car bombs, black outs, murders, etc..

The leader, Abimael Guzman, was responsible for 30,000 deaths (I guess this number is more than Bin Laden's). He was captured in 1992. He was sentenced for life imprisonment (still alive). Well Shining Path didn't dissapear but it is almost. It has been reduced to its minimal expresion and we now live in peace and joy. Tourism increased a lot, cities have been modernized, we grow in all aspects, we even have good (economic) years during the 2008-2009 international crisis (one of the few countries with economical growth in the region).

But that was Shining Path. I guess Al Qaeda is stronger and better organized.