Singles and Movie? [Archive]

saintvox

04-30-2011, 10:09 PM

The album cover has a sticker which says "Featuring Secret Love & Cheaper Than Free" That's a pretty good indication of what the next single will be. :distress:

Not really.

It just means that both of them were released before the album.

And I've seen lots of songs do that with songs that weren't singles. I never understood it. :shrug:

Musicman408

04-30-2011, 10:22 PM

I was telling my roommate that I could totally see New Orleans being played in a Chamber of Commerce visit New Orleans commercial! :nod:

RockALittle250

04-30-2011, 10:24 PM

I have a strong feeling that the title track will be the next single. It would require no radio edit.

If it's not IYD, then it needs to be another track that differs from Secret Love, in that, it should not be another ballad.

CADreaming

04-30-2011, 10:25 PM

RockALittle250

04-30-2011, 10:26 PM

IYD could be a country single today. It has that feel.

If the likes of Taylor Swift recorded it with the exact same production by Dave, it would be a guaranteed hit at Top 40 radio.

tabruns

04-30-2011, 10:27 PM

Not really.

It just means that both of them were released before the album.

And I've seen lots of songs do that with songs that weren't singles. I never understood it. :shrug:

Because they think people might have seen the "Cheaper Than Free" video and recognize that its on this album. It might be the 2nd single.....Nicks seems to think its an amazing song....and while some on here really dislike it, there are others who love it. So who knows for sure.

I just can't see there being only two singles off the album. Trouble in Shangri-La got "Every Day", "Planets of the Universe" and "Sorcerer". I imagine there will at least be a 3rd single, so IF "Cheaper Than Free" is single #2, "In Your Dreams" is likely single #3 (that's my guess).

CADreaming

04-30-2011, 10:30 PM

If the likes of Taylor Swift recorded it with the exact same production by Dave, it would be a guaranteed hit at Top 40 radio.

Oh, I think Stevie could get a Top 40 out of it now. Taylor's would prob get a Top 10. :rolleyes:

Country still relies on video too - they could do a nice one with this.

cristochango

04-30-2011, 10:53 PM

I think I may cry if In Your Dreams is a single... :p

I can really see

For What It's Worth
Wide Sargasso Sea (remixed for radio)
Annabell Lee (remixed for radio)
Ghosts are gone

tabruns

04-30-2011, 10:59 PM

I think I may cry if In Your Dreams is a single... :p

I can really see

For What It's Worth
Wide Sargasso Sea (remixed for radio)
Annabell Lee (remixed for radio)
Ghosts are gone

Well like it or not "In Your Dreams" is really catchy. I mean we can all cite our favorite songs and say "these should be singles"....it takes a bit more to try to figure out objectively what will likely go over best on the radio.

michelej1

04-30-2011, 11:19 PM

The album cover wrapper has a sticker which says "Featuring Secret Love & Cheaper Than Free" That's a pretty good indication of what the next single will be. :distress:

Wow. Movies have focus groups. Why can't the record companies do that and see which songs a preview audience likes best, if they want to choose a single.

CTF is the worst song on the album and I know that diehard fans don't gravitate to the same pop confections that mass audiences love, but I don't even think CTF is commercially attractive. Maybe Hannah Montana and one of the Jonas Bros. could make it a hit, but other than that . . .

Oh, ugh. Just the fact that Dave has it on his album too would be reason enough for me not to make it a single. The execs are stupid.

Michele

michelej1

04-30-2011, 11:21 PM

IYD could be a country single today. It has that feel.

I don't get country when I hear IYD, but FWIW, definitely. If she got country rotation with that thing the single could go gold or platinum.

Michele

tabruns

04-30-2011, 11:22 PM

Wow. Movies have focus groups. Why can't the record companies do that and see which songs a preview audience likes best, if they want to choose a single.

CTF is the worst song on the album and I know that diehard fans don't gravitate to the same pop confections that mass audiences love, but I don't even think CTF is commercially attractive. Maybe Hannah Montana and one of the Jonas Bros. could make it a hit, but other than that . . .

Oh, ugh. Just the fact that Dave has it on his album too would be reason enough for me not to make it a single. The execs are stupid.

Michele

But again, this is just your opinion. There are other people on this board who *love* "Cheaper Than Free". The idea of testing for a single is intriguing though.

michelej1

04-30-2011, 11:47 PM

But again, this is just your opinion. There are other people on this board who *love* "Cheaper Than Free". The idea of testing for a single is intriguing though.

But there is a consensus. An overwhelming number of people hate Silver Girl. That doesn't mean that there are not some who love it. It just means it's not a favorite on average.

Michele

tabruns

04-30-2011, 11:49 PM

But there is a consensus. An overwhelming number of people hate Silver Girl. That doesn't mean that there are not some who love it. It just means it's not a favorite on average.

Michele

Early on I would have agreed that there was consensus....now I'm not so sure. Once the RS page was up I was seeing more and more people saying they liked or loved "Cheaper Than Free".

Also Nicks herself loves the song and thinks its one of the best things on the album. :shrug:

louielouie2000

05-01-2011, 12:06 AM

Early on I would have agreed that there was consensus....now I'm not so sure. Once the RS page was up I was seeing more and more people saying they liked or loved "Cheaper Than Free".

Also Nicks herself loves the song and thinks its one of the best things on the album. :shrug:

The problem with Cheaper Than Free is it's just so slow and draggy, and doesn't really go anywhere. People would immediately flip the station if they heard that crap come on (I would!).

In Your Dreams is just so upbeat and chugging. I can totally hear it on the radio. Yeah, it's not the best song on the album... but it's the best song for radio.

tabruns

05-01-2011, 12:19 AM

The problem with Cheaper Than Free is it's just so slow and draggy, and doesn't really go anywhere. People would immediately flip the station if they heard that crap come on (I would!).

In Your Dreams is just so upbeat and chugging. I can totally hear it on the radio. Yeah, it's not the best song on the album... but it's the best song for radio.

It's the best song for certain types of radio. I could see "Cheaper Than Free" making it on country stations....but who knows. I'm not a record exec or radio station mgr so I couldn't do more than speculate.

Jondalar

05-01-2011, 12:37 AM

The next single should be In Your Dreams. It is the one song from this album I can see getting airplay in all different types of formats. Stevie sounds great on the song and it shows she has lots of energy.

However, In Your Dreams is not my favorite song from the album. I think it sounds like a hit though.

tabruns

05-01-2011, 12:41 AM

If there was a God, "Moonlight" would be a #1 hit. :)

Jondalar

05-01-2011, 12:45 AM

If there was a God, "Moonlight" would be a #1 hit. :)

I think that when people research Moonlight on iTunes or other places and discover this song, she is going to get a lot more album sales. It's haunting and lyrically people will identify with it.

AliceLover

05-01-2011, 01:05 AM

The stickers mean nothing. On both Under the Skin and Gift of Screws, the sticker listed songs that never were singles: Down on Rodeo, Love Runs Deeper, The Right Place to Fade.

michelej1

05-01-2011, 01:13 AM

I think that when people research Moonlight on iTunes or other places and discover this song, she is going to get a lot more album sales. It's haunting and lyrically people will identify with it.

Putting "vampire" parenthetically in the title might help it get more search hits.

The next single should be In Your Dreams. It is the one song from this album I can see getting airplay in all different types of formats. Stevie sounds great on the song and it shows she has lots of energy.

But they will have to push it to the different type of radio stations, if they want the airplay. Even if it sounds country, for instance, it won't get that attention or rotation, because of who she is. Whatever Kid Rock and Sheryl Crow did to get country play (with a song that doesn't even sound like it fits that genre to me), Stevie people should do for her. I know with the Eagles Long Road Out of Eden it seemed like they made a concerted effort to expose it to a different (bigger) audience, with promotional contests and giveaways on the country stations. Michele

WildHearted

05-01-2011, 09:24 AM

I think For What It's Worth and In Your Dreams are her best shots at singles. They're both insanely catchy, melody wise, and In Your Dreams is very driven.

Musicman408

05-01-2011, 09:37 AM

Now how does this work- if we all got together and sent a bunch of requests for In Your Dreams to a bunch of country stations, after the album is released, even if this isn't selected as a single, might they play it?

tbaker3

05-01-2011, 11:03 AM

I wouldn't be suprised if Moonlight was a single. It might explain the title change. "Lady from the Mountain," to a casual listener might sound kind of lame. A song with "vampire" in the title may entice people into giving it more of a chance. I wish the fans could vote. Mine would be Moonlight, hands down.

WildHearted

05-01-2011, 12:12 PM

I actually much prefer the title Lady From The Mountain. It definitely still fits with the song and is both more and less ambiguous than Moonlight (which seems to me just to be a derivative of Twilight and New Moon) all at the same time.. it catches my ear more, personally.

Sahara

05-01-2011, 06:09 PM

I think For What It's Worth and In Your Dreams are her best shots at singles. They're both insanely catchy, melody wise, and In Your Dreams is very driven.
I agree -- they're not my favourites, but so radio-friendly :nod:

cristochango

05-01-2011, 06:15 PM

Am I the only one that can hear Italian Summer being a single, this summer?

Jondalar

05-01-2011, 06:17 PM

Am I the only one that can hear Italian Summer being a single, this summer?

It's a single, but I don't know where it would get played, I like it a lot. I definitely see a lot of drag queens wanting to do this song.