Emergency

[GoldDustBoy]

This person leaked the complete album on youtube. The quality is terrible, but still... Take a minute to report him/her:

http://www.youtube.com/user/raincaster21

[Jondalar]

I just flagged and reported

[Jondalar]

Do you think the reason the album is being streamed on Rolling Stones website is because they knew some butthole would leak it?

[carrie721]

probably. more than likely they were preempting the european release.

[Jondalar]

raincaster left me a message for reporting him

Why would you report me...thats ****ed up......did u ever wonder HOW i got this...Stevie's publicist has something to do with this ok...stay out of it...thus the reason youtube let me upload it at all. Dont bother.....

His message is a bunch of BS, idiot

[RockALittle250]

raincaster left me a message for reporting him

Why would you report me...thats ****ed up......did u ever wonder HOW i got this...Stevie's publicist has something to do with this ok...stay out of it...thus the reason youtube let me upload it at all. Dont bother.....

His message is a bunch of BS, idiot

Haha exactly!

If Stevie and her people had anything to do with it, the songs would be posted on HER official YouTube channel.

[BTFLCHLD]

quite curious. Did you send a note letting him/her know you were reporting or did youtube provide him/her with that information?

[TakenByTheSky23]

Haha exactly!

If Stevie and her people had anything to do with it, the songs would be posted on HER official YouTube channel.

AND they wouldn't be such rotten quality. Big, big lies.

[Jondalar]

quite curious. Did you send a note letting him/her know you were reporting or did youtube provide him/her with that information?

yeah, I wrote a message to him, I wanted to let him know so he would take it down!!!! That is the point of me reporting him

[carrie721]

Haha exactly!

If Stevie and her people had anything to do with it, the songs would be posted on HER official YouTube channel.

not necessarily. sometimes artists "leak" their stuff anonymously to create hype.

but if he had permission from stevie's publicist and youtube he wouldn't be getting upset over being flagged.

[Heartboy]

Like Stevie says 'Sometimes it's a Bitch"...

Sometimes (more than not) people are morons..:rolleyes:

[-Lillith-]

Whoa what a lie ! :mad:

I tried to flag as well but i dont know if it worked ...

[AliceLover]

While I agree that these should be taken down, let me ask you this:

If the album hadn't leaked anywhere yet, would everyone still be in a fuss? :shrug:

[Jondalar]

While I agree that these should be taken down, let me ask you this:

If the album hadn't leaked anywhere yet, would everyone still be in a fuss? :shrug:

People know that stevie has to compete with people who are almost 40 years youonger, she is going to have a hard enough time selling this album eventhough it truly deserves to be multi-platinum.

the rolling stone stream will go down, but this stuff stays up and will affect sales

[olive]

Haha exactly!

If Stevie and her people had anything to do with it, the songs would be posted on HER official YouTube channel.

no ,they do this all the time ,, especially if her pr is still being handled by that woman who did Madonna no one's going to down load these crappy versions

[Jondalar]

no ,they do this all the time ,, especially if her pr is still being handled by that woman who did Madonna no one's going to down load these crappy versions

It's not good quality and the album is being streamed on RS, so why would they give it to him to leak, he's lying

[GoldDustBoy]

That's bull****! By the quality of the sound I would say that he recorded the album from the RS stream.

[RockALittle250]

It's not good quality and the album is being streamed on RS, so why would they give it to him to leak, he's lying

Bingo.

Stevie and her people pride themselves on the quality of her work.

If they wanted it to "leak" and spread fast, then they would have handed it off to someone with more than 30 subscribers on YouTube :rolleyes:

[GoldDustBoy]

Plus, if they wanted to create a buzz, they would have leaked demos/outtakes or snippets of songs.

[Jondalar]

Bingo.

Stevie and her people pride themselves on the quality of her work.

If they wanted it to "leak" and spread fast, then they would have handed it off to someone with more than 30 subscribers on YouTube :rolleyes:

I'm going to twitter Dave, maybe he can do something about it

[Josh2003]

I'm going to twitter Dave, maybe he can do something about it

I think at this point it's out of Dave's control. Nor would he particularly care, I don't think.

[Jondalar]

I think at this point it's out of Dave's control. Nor would he particularly care, I don't think.

he is in contact with people who can help, the big wigs

[BTFLCHLD]

curious again. hasnt there been some videos, such as the sneek peek from dave and the secret love video, that individuals captured and then placed on youtube unofficially? and was not the secretlove mp3 that was released early as a download with advance purchase placed into video format for placement on youtube?

[carrie721]

curious again. hasnt there been some videos, such as the sneek peek from dave and the secret love video, that individuals captured and then placed on youtube unofficially? and was not the secretlove mp3 that was released early as a download with advance purchase placed into video format for placement on youtube?

i find your use of logic offensive. :lol:

[cristochango]

Stevie Nicks' youtube account is subscribed to whoever this guy is...

[cristochango]

Never mind, he's subscribed to Stevie.
Embarrassing :)

[WildHearted]

Stevie Nicks' youtube account is subscribed to whoever this guy is...

No, those are his subscriptions - meaning people that user subscribes to, not the other way around.

Edit: It's an easy mistake!

[saintvox]

You guys are so over reacting.

Honestly everyone album leaks nowdays. I'll probably get yelled at, but it's the simple truth. To say that this is going to lose her album sales is to say that every artist with music on Youtube (which is pretty much every artists) is losing a huge amount of sales.

I mean, is it perferable? No. But it's pointless to get this upset imo. But maybe that's just me.

[cristochango]

No, those are his subscriptions - meaning people that user subscribes to, not the other way around.


I was too slow for you. :laugh:

[RockALittle250]

You guys are so over reacting.

Honestly everyone album leaks nowdays. I'll probably get yelled at, but it's the simple truth. To say that this is going to lose her album sales is to say that every artist with music on Youtube (which is pretty much every artists) is losing a huge amount of sales.

I mean, is it perferable? No. But it's pointless to get this upset imo. But maybe that's just me.

That's why i'm not getting upset about it, because:

A. YouTube doesn't allow you to (easily) download songs to your computer
B. This person has 30 subscribers! Oh, the humanity! :laugh:

[BTFLCHLD]

i find your use of logic offensive. :lol: :lol: me too.

As a musician friend recently stated when someone ripd music to put to video montage "YouTube is the intellectual property wild west and chances are they are just big fans of the music."

There is no way the stream would NOT be rippd for upload, sooner or later, crappy audio or HQ. :shrug:

[Heartboy]

But it's pointless to get this upset imo. But maybe that's just me.

No, it's not just you.

I've never been around such a large group of drama queens on the internet.:D

[KarmaContestant]

I've never been around such a large group of drama queens on the internet.:D

:laugh: The forum of any video game is far worse than any Stevie fans could ever aspire to be!

[Jondalar]

:laugh: The forum of any video game is far worse than any Stevie fans could ever aspire to be!

tell me about it, I'm a World of Warcraft fanatic, I play a warlock :)

[olive]

there's HQ version on you tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZifu4hFKiU

[GoldDustBoy]

These are ripped from a CD. :distress: Couldn't they wait ONE WEEK after the album was out? And I know this beyonceshusband guy from youtube. He's been uploading Stevie videos for a long time, and whenever some of his videos are taken down, he reuploads them again. He is obviously a fan, so why does he do this!? Maybe somebody should try to contact him.

[saintvox]

These are ripped from a CD. :distress: Couldn't they wait ONE WEEK after the album was out? And I know this beyonceshusband guy from youtube. He's been uploading Stevie videos for a long time, and whenever some of his videos are taken down, he reuploads them again. He is obviously a fan, so why does he do this!? Maybe somebody should try to contact him.

I like watching Stevie videos on Youtube.:shrug:

It's a good resource imo.

[GoldDustBoy]

I like watching Stevie videos on Youtube.:shrug:

It's a good resource imo.

Me too. I like watching everything on youtube, but this is really not the right time. It could hurt her sales, which could hurt her ego, which could make her stop recording. I mean, we were waiting 10 years for a new album, and I am sure that the low sales of TISL and SYW had much to do with it. She is almost 63. She is not going to be able to do this much longer. Fans are buying multiple copies of IYD, and somebody who obviously is a fan is doing the opposite.

[Jondalar]

no ,they do this all the time ,, especially if her pr is still being handled by that woman who did Madonna no one's going to down load these crappy versions

Dave's response:


@DaveStewart
DaveStewart
@jondalar41 that's a pain

[saintvox]

Me too. I like watching everything on youtube, but this is really not the right time. It could hurt her sales, which could hurt her ego, which could make her stop recording. I mean, we were waiting 10 years for a new album, and I am sure that the low sales of TISL and SYW had much to do with it. She is almost 63. She is not going to be able to do this much longer. Fans are buying multiple copies of IYD, and somebody who obviously is a fan is doing the opposite.

Well the problem wasn't that they didn't sell well, the problem is that she was tired from touring and her label told her it was pointless right? I remember her saying if she hadn't been so tired she would have fought back harder.

And honestly....most of her fans have bought multiple copies. There's nothing saying that this person hasn't either right? And also, exposure on Youtube could be good for getting people who don't know Stevie to listen to this album, which could equal new fans and more sales for Stevie. It could be a good thing.

[DefDumbandBlond]

raincaster left me a message for reporting him

Why would you report me...thats ****ed up......did u ever wonder HOW i got this...Stevie's publicist has something to do with this ok...stay out of it...thus the reason youtube let me upload it at all. Dont bother.....

His message is a bunch of BS, idiot

I seriously just laughed out loud at this. I'm sure Stevie's publicist wanted this person to upload what sounds like a recorded version of the songs being played from the speakers that sound like pure sh*t. :laugh: What a bunch of bull.

[Bryan]

You all need to chill. Working yourselves into a panic for youtube uploads when it's already on RS to stream AND already leaked ELSEWHERE is just silly.
This happens with every album in the world,I wouldn't worry about lost sales. 'No publicity is bad publicity' and that kinda stuff. .
Overprotective.

[Jondalar]

Dave is sending in his forces to stop it, SO STOP IT! This is a great album, it deserves to be payed for.


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[Bryan]

:laugh:
I love Dave's soh

[RockALittle250]

As much as I disagree with posting it up because the album has not been released yet, he and the other posts of the songs to YouTube are not posting download links for the songs.

So, in that case, they are only in violation of posting copyrighted material and not for making it available for illegal download.

[Josh2003]

Do you actually think he's seriously doing something about this?

[Sahara]

Holy smokes, the man has an airforce :shocked:
Awesome! :thumbsup:

[saintvox]

I'm sorry.

But this is just so crazy. Someone uploaded the album on Youtube. They didn't try to shoot the president.

Though I think I sense sarcasm. xP

[mikebise]

"The kids need education...

Now we got EMERGENCY!
Emergency on Planet Earth!"

Calling Mr. Moon!!!!

[cristochango]

I'm sorry.

But this is just so crazy. Someone uploaded the album on Youtube. They didn't try to shoot the president.

Though I think I sense sarcasm. xP

I agree with the last part. :p

[mikebise]

Airforce??? :eek:

We must be waiting for the Return of The Space Cowboy! :angel:

I'm going Deeper Underground..... :thumbsup:

[olive]

there are worse things like ..SuperMan Renouncing his U.S. citizenship

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/superman_renounces_us_citizenship_n5ZdXkQIWE7y5EoU6xTZQI

[Jondalar]

I'm sorry.

But this is just so crazy. Someone uploaded the album on Youtube. They didn't try to shoot the president.

Though I think I sense sarcasm. xP

Are you sure they didn't try to shoot the president? I mean, how do you know for sure?

[saintvox]

Are you sure they didn't try to shoot the president? I mean, how do you know for sure?

Because I saw him on a birthday card today at Meyers?

Stevie for President! :thumbsup:

[Heartboy]

Though I think I sense sarcasm. xP

:lol::lol::lol:

Someone needs to take their 'chill' pills!:wavey:

[saintvox]

I'm interested what this means for the people who uploaded Secret Love to Youtube when it leaked?

Was there this prompt an "investigation" when that happened?

[used karma]

Why are some people so dramatic about this ****? Too much time on their hands!

[GoldDustBoy]

Why are some people so dramatic about this ****? Too much time on their hands!



Insomnia and a stomach ache from hell in my case. :)

[AliceLover]

Wow, that was so uncalled for. I'm telling you, if the album wasn't leaked, everyone would be singing a different song about the youtube videos.

Absolutely ridiculous.

[WildHearted]

Didn't the album come out today in some places outside of the US?

I don't get the huge deal. Every artists songs end up on youtube... and like someone else mentioned, they aren't providing links to download them - really what's the difference? If people don't listen to them on Youtube, they can just go listen to them on Rolling Stone right now...

[BTFLCHLD]

And do we really need two threads on the topic? http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=46848 :rolleyes:

[used karma]

You all need to chill. Working yourselves into a panic for youtube uploads when it's already on RS to stream AND already leaked ELSEWHERE is just silly.
This happens with every album in the world,I wouldn't worry about lost sales. 'No publicity is bad publicity' and that kinda stuff. .
Overprotective.
I agree. It's obnoxious.

[StreetAngel86]

people are already uploading mp3s of songs onto tumblr ... and NOT secret love
im like for realz
that is pathetic

come on people control your sh!t and make people BUY it

at least wait a WEEK until it actually comes out in most places :P

[saintvox]

people are already uploading mp3s of songs onto tumblr ... and NOT secret love
im like for realz
that is pathetic

come on people control your sh!t and make people BUY it

at least wait a WEEK until it actually comes out in most places :P

Assuming those people didn't already buy it? :shrug:

[jannieC]

And do we really need two threads on the topic? http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=46848 :rolleyes:

I merge, and I merge, and then I merge some more.

[LikeAWillow]

Yes, please. Let's halt Stevie's publicity. That's the way to get album sales!

People don't buy records anymore without sampling them first. An album needs to make an impression for my generation to buy it. Let the audience hear the music, trust the music, and trust that if it's good enough, they'll want to support it.

[saintvox]

Yes, please. Let's halt Stevie's publicity. That's the way to get album sales!

People don't buy records anymore without sampling them first. An album needs to make an impression for my generation to buy it. Let the audience hear the music, trust the music, and trust that if it's good enough, they'll want to support it.

My exact words and feelings. :thumbsup:

[Jondalar]

Yes, please. Let's halt Stevie's publicity. That's the way to get album sales!

People don't buy records anymore without sampling them first. An album needs to make an impression for my generation to buy it. Let the audience hear the music, trust the music, and trust that if it's good enough, they'll want to support it.

it's way too premature for any youtube, the song is streaming on RS website, the quality if bad, let them hear it on RS

[carrie721]

Yes, please. Let's halt Stevie's publicity. That's the way to get album sales!

People don't buy records anymore without sampling them first. An album needs to make an impression for my generation to buy it. Let the audience hear the music, trust the music, and trust that if it's good enough, they'll want to support it.

jesus, calm down with your thoughtful analysis of the situation and freak out already. christ.

[Jondalar]

jesus, calm down with your thoughtful analysis of the situation and freak out already. christ.

totally!!!!!!!!

[carrie721]

totally!!!!!!!!

my spidey senses tell me you are not joking.

[LikeAWillow]

it's way too premature for any youtube, the song is streaming on RS website, the quality if bad, let them hear it on RS

What youtube is good for, though, is for people who wouldn't KNOW to seek out Rolling Stone. Say somebody is listening to Edge of Seventeen (or Landslide, if we're talking Glee generation) and they see an IYD song promoted on their sidebar. They're going to click it. And maybe they'll fall in love. I trust the quality of these songs enough to think they'll be intrigued. And then they're going to google the "In Your Dreams" that they see in the comments. And then they're going to see that it comes out May 3rd. And then they're going to tell themselves to remember to get it on Itunes.

I mean, really, who would expend the effort and potential for viruses to download the songs of youtube? Hardcore fans. We already have pre-orders. Who cares if we download? We're not a consideration here. Again, this is about winning over the people who don't already have pre-orders, and I guarantee you, those people aren't converting sh*tty youtube versions.

[Jondalar]

my spidey senses tell me you are not joking.

:) :) :) :) :)

[mezzoforte]

it's way too premature for any youtube, the song is streaming on RS website, the quality if bad, let them hear it on RS

Maybe, but people who aren't that familiar with Stevie are more likely to open a youtube vid someone sends them than go to the RS website and stream the whole cd.

[saintvox]

Wow....

Honestly...

This is almost as bad as the Gaga fans flagging Rihanna's S&M video so that it would flop.

Well maybe not quite THAT bad.

[carrie721]

Wow....

Honestly...

This is almost as bad as the Gaga fans flagging Rihanna's S&M video so that it would flop.

Well maybe not quite THAT bad.

let's be honest, all fans are terrible.

[BTFLCHLD]

I merge, and I merge, and then I merge some more. thanks jannie. :xoxo:

Technically, if there was a spike in views plus subsequent embed/shares happening, we can call ATTENTION to The Ledge threads that started this DISEASE.

WTG!!
HAHA radar love
ive only fully listened to secret love
awaiting CD release

[DefDumbandBlond]

It would bother me a lot more if the versions on YouTube were crystal clear versions cut right from the disc. It's SO easy to download files off of YouTube what with the tons of software downloads and websites out there, unfortunately for so many people who do nothing but download, a ripped song off of YouTube is good enough and they won't go out and buy the actual CD. :eek: It's great being able to sample songs because of so many sites that provide that feature, I'm just not a huge fan of freely downloading everything (as much as I can help it, because some stuff you just can't find anymore!) The artists deserve to reap as many benefits as they can from what they put out. Even if they don't always 'need it' in a financial sense, still......

It just all depends on how you look at it really, of course in a sense of promotion and getting her material out there and known to a wider audience it's great. As others have mentioned, the best thing you could hope for is that after sampling the music, casual fans will want to actually go out and support her. In this day & age it's completely unavoidable so there's no use trying to fight it all.

[kick.inside]

Some people might disapprove of this and I'm sorry, but honestly, I did record all the songs off of the Rolling Stone website yesterday so I could put them on my iPod. However, I'm not posting them anywhere, I'm not sharing them with anyone, and it's not going to be a loss of any sales because I've already pre-ordered a copy and I plan on buying a couple more copies as gifts for family members and a couple friends. I only recorded them because I totally fell in love with them and wanted to be able to listen to them anywhere. I was impatient. I'll most likely end up deleting them off my iPod on the 3rd and putting the better quality CD rips on there.
I do think it's a crappy deal though when people put the songs on YouTube before the album's released (yeah, it happens all the time, but that's no excuse). It doesn't bug me as much if they do it after the release, because then people have had the chance to buy the album. If they do it before though, they can just download them from YouTube and convert them to just audio, and that way they don't have to spend any money purchasing the album when it comes out. It really could hurt album sales and that sucks. In Your Dreams is amazing and it should sell a bajillion copies. Stevie deserves it.
The part that really bugs me is that the people who are putting them on YouTube (there are several copies of each song up by now) seem to be big fans. They of all people should realize how important it is that the album sells, and how much it would hurt Stevie if they knew what they were doing (I'm assuming she wouldn't be too pleased). Some fans.
The whole thing is BS if you ask me.
Just my two cents.

[tabruns]

Some people might disapprove of this and I'm sorry, but honestly, I did record all the songs off of the Rolling Stone website yesterday so I could put them on my iPod. However, I'm not posting them anywhere, I'm not sharing them with anyone, and it's not going to be a loss of any sales because I've already pre-ordered a copy and I plan on buying a couple more copies as gifts for family members and a couple friends. I only recorded them because I totally fell in love with them and wanted to be able to listen to them anywhere. I was impatient. I'll most likely end up deleting them off my iPod on the 3rd and putting the better quality CD rips on there.
I do think it's a crappy deal though when people put the songs on YouTube before the album's released (yeah, it happens all the time, but that's no excuse). It doesn't bug me as much if they do it after the release, because then people have had the chance to buy the album. If they do it before though, they can just download them from YouTube and convert them to just audio, and that way they don't have to spend any money purchasing the album when it comes out. It really could hurt album sales and that sucks. In Your Dreams is amazing and it should sell a bajillion copies. Stevie deserves it.
The part that really bugs me is that the people who are putting them on YouTube (there are several copies of each song up by now) seem to be big fans. They of all people should realize how important it is that the album sells, and how much it would hurt Stevie if they knew what they were doing (I'm assuming she wouldn't be too pleased). Some fans.
The whole thing is BS if you ask me.
Just my two cents.

I agree with you.

[Jondalar]

I think it's good that RS put it on their website. They knew the album would somehow be leaked in Europe because they got it on the 28th. Plus, there are a lot of people who were turned off by Stevie's previous album. They want them to have a chance to listen to it and hear how great it sounds and then take it down from their website. They'll have to buy it to keep listening to it.

The only way that would change is if people post it on youtube permanently, which they are trying to do. You can put it on your ipod from RS, but I'm sure the quality is not all that great and after hearing the album, a person would want it in the best quality possible. They would buy it.

[wheart]

Well the problem wasn't that they didn't sell well, the problem is that she was tired from touring and her label told her it was pointless right? I remember her saying if she hadn't been so tired she would have fought back harder.

so she was too tired to fight back yet wasn't too tired to record another album? This just doesn't make any sense. I think it was a combination. She was probably really tired from touring and wanted/needed a little break plus she was advised that making a cd at that time was not in her best interest. So her decision not to make a another cd in 2005 was a probably a combination of things. I don't buy that she didn't have some say in the matter.

[DefDumbandBlond]

Some people might disapprove of this and I'm sorry, but honestly, I did record all the songs off of the Rolling Stone website yesterday so I could put them on my iPod. However, I'm not posting them anywhere, I'm not sharing them with anyone, and it's not going to be a loss of any sales because I've already pre-ordered a copy and I plan on buying a couple more copies as gifts for family members and a couple friends. I only recorded them because I totally fell in love with them and wanted to be able to listen to them anywhere. I was impatient. I'll most likely end up deleting them off my iPod on the 3rd and putting the better quality CD rips on there.


I did the same. I'm getting the CD and I'm not going to share the files anywhere so I don't see a problem with it really.

[saintvox]

so she was too tired to fight back yet wasn't too tired to record another album? This just doesn't make any sense. I think it was a combination. She was probably really tired from touring and wanted/needed a little break plus she was advised that making a cd at that time was not in her best interest. So her decision not to make a another cd in 2005 was a probably a combination of things. I don't buy that she didn't have some say in the matter.

I can't find the quote but she says something along the lines of the label telling her that it didn't matter because everyone would just download the album and not buy it. So she took their word instead of fighting it more because she was tired than anything.

But I mean, honestly Stevie does need to accept that she won't sell as much as she used to no matter what she does. Music has become much more diverse than when you had to go down to the record store and choose between 3 cds.

[Jondalar]

I can't find the quote but she says something along the lines of the label telling her that it didn't matter because everyone would just download the album and not buy it. So she took their word instead of fighting it more because she was tired than anything.

But I mean, honestly Stevie does need to accept that she won't sell as much as she used to no matter what she does. Music has become much more diverse than when you had to go down to the record store and choose between 3 cds.

Her manager told her it would sale and there was no point to it. The record business was in terrible shape.