Rock A Little ~ Outtakes, Demos & Alternates

[mikebise]

This thread is for posting Rock A Little outtakes, demos, remixes, alternate versions and live performances, in hopes of compiling a resource for fans of the era, as well as perhaps finding upgrades. Many of the recordings we have have been copied and dubbed so many times on cassettes in the Eighties and Nineties, that sound quality is dismal in quite a few cases. However, an upgrade may always be around the corner, as i've learned on this Board several times.

Not all of these are great sound, but maybe we can find some upgrades! And some of these are very much improved sound from what I used to have. I will label the ones from the Masters; there aren't that many from Rock A Little, unfortunately. Here're a few to get this party started:

"Rose Garden"
http://www.mediafire.com/?t0k8bnmffr110cv

"Night Gallery"
http://www.mediafire.com/?ag1sk2qn94hqhhe

"Thousand Days"
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?5anc3scc0jelyj5

"Thousand Days" (demo)
http://www.mediafire.com/?amnsnb5u1xr57z1

"The Nightmare" (alternate from the Masters)
http://www.mediafire.com/?mwhjzjmzqfm

"Ooh Ooh Baby"
http://www.mediafire.com/?gm4nym2eg0y

"I Can't Wait" (Outtake/extra lyrics)
http://www.mediafire.com/?dhu05zcvidam01q

"Joan Of Arc" (demo)
http://www.mediafire.com/?gm4nym2eg0y

[TheWILDheart]

"At The Fair"
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BMOJNOCV

"Mirror, Mirror"
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOMRY9R3

"Lily Girl"
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4M7JUDLJ

"It's Not A Dream"
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I179CAVP

"Running Through The Garden"
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XWXMCT0N

"Talk To Me (alternate)"
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XKPHBCA7

"Tied Up In Promises"
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EPP0TYC2

[mikebise]

"Rock A Little" (UK b~side version/extended outtake)
http://www.mediafire.com/?uwl55c3t0bc6tdb

"Rock A Little" (alternate outtake)
http://www.mediafire.com/?gy3i5ss92hc28rr

"Rock A Little" (1981 song writing session #1)
http://www.mediafire.com/?6g255ks14n4mf3o

"Rock A Little" (1981 song writng session #2)
http://www.mediafire.com/?3uil5eomtxko5oe

[mikebise]

"Some Become Strangers" (outtake; from the Masters)
http://www.mediafire.com/?mv5jywdmeyw

[mikebise]

"Love Is Like A River"
http://www.mediafire.com/?c68idslazvc3b60

Remember, if you have a better quality sounding version, you're supposed to post it! :wavey:

[windbecame]

WHOA Mike!!! i've been collecting Stevie demos and outtakes for DECADES and i've NEVER heard that outtake of Rock a Little!!! THANK YOU!!!:xoxo:

[HighPassion]

Hey guys!
Kinda new around here, so this is my first post.

Thank you so much for starting this up! I kind of lost all my Stevie demos/outtakes throughout the years. But I shall post whatever I still have :)

Here's a really good acoustic demo of Are you Mine


Are You Mine (Acoustic Demo):
http://www.mediafire.com/?37dd75posc1kzk9


I have a really really HQ version of What Has Rock & Roll Ever Done For You but I've yet to find it... I will post it as soon as I come across it though :)

[gldstwmn]

Lily Girl from RAL?

[TheWILDheart]

Lily Girl from RAL?

Deffo sounds like a RAL demo, but I could be wrong :p

[gldstwmn]

Damen's Stevie Comp
I made this for my friend Damen about 6 or 7 years ago:

Bella Donna:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sc4ijuudisz0i6c

Bombay Sapphires:
http://www.mediafire.com/?awb3thwemw2yp28

Fall From Grace (live at the Blockbuster Awards):
http://www.mediafire.com/?0yus9mygt3z9uy4

I Can't Wait:
http://www.mediafire.com/?52otdpnsopoqemq

I Sing For The Things:
http://www.mediafire.com/?b5rszv1pho79o3i

Kind Of Woman:
http://www.mediafire.com/?7y74b4d2xyej62g

Long Way To Go:
http://www.mediafire.com/?g77g4xlgaze9msa

Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cossc679mw98s1q

My Heart:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9nqoid2o3wdgao2

No Spoken Work (live at Red Rocks):
http://www.mediafire.com/?964jvsgz6vavnr4

Sleeping Angel:
http://www.mediafire.com/?lq11k8y5vouwkdy

Smile At You:
http://www.mediafire.com/?r3kanon0ne4x12v

Some Become Strangers:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mr8bowalab58um8

Talk To Me:
http://www.mediafire.com/?8qrdinkh33mc46x

[mikebise]

"One More Big Time Rock And Roll Star" (full length)
http://www.mediafire.com/?pj3nwdo40bs9tzb

"All Over You"
http://www.mediafire.com/?1nq29gcdrqefnra

"All the King's Horses"
http://www.mediafire.com/?q19tn94lzyipvbm

[jeffd8382]

Here's a somewhat better sounding copy of "All Over You"... it's pretty bright sounding in the treble, but when I tried playing around with equalization, it seemed to only take away from the natural sounding hi-hats and the vocals became too noisy in the mid-range. So here it is, unaltered from the CD I had it on, with the exception of a cleaned up intro and fade-out:

http://www.mediafire.com/?jm4bzbn88z8h4aj

[HighPassion]

I thought it was confirmed that "All Over You" is indeed not Stevie. It was mislabelled often saying it was done with Prince but was confirmed by both sources that it's not Stevie singing in it.

Correct me if I'm wrong :)

[jeffd8382]

"Are You Mine?" (with Billy Burnette) (original = mp3 128kbps)
http://www.mediafire.com/?4gbr23taexb9hq5

"Greta" (RAL demo) (original = lossless)
http://www.mediafire.com/?7wymoiv91ubpvtr

"Lady From The Mountain" (RAL version) (original = mp3)
http://www.mediafire.com/?l6g3xv23ybuytkf

"She Still Loves Him" (original = lossless)
http://www.mediafire.com/?ucityix23ic8d9o

"Tied Up" (1st demo version) (original = mp3/lossy?) - enhanced 2.0 & speed-adjusted
http://www.mediafire.com/?l1p20226oo526iz

"Whole Lotta Trouble" (1986 demo) (original = mp3)
http://www.mediafire.com/?d24t7iii0nebaiu

"What Has Rock 'N Roll Ever Done For You?" (original = mp3)
enhancement 1: http://www.mediafire.com/?7ykdw23r32e51no
enhancement 2: http://www.mediafire.com/?0j481zj9usj1283


I have a really really HQ version of What Has Rock & Roll Ever Done For You but I've yet to find it... I will post it as soon as I come across it though

I'm really looking forward to this... If at all possible, it would be awesome if you could share in lossless form (WAV or FLAC, etc.) :thumbsup: Thanks in advance!

Also, if anyone has lossless versions of any of their postings that are in mp3 form and can share them, that would be terrific! Most of us have mp3s, because they are the ones heavily circulated... but for archival purposes, lossless would be ideal. :)

[markolas]

As far as I know, Lily Girl was an outtake from TOSOTM; if it's got Kenny G on sax, then it's definitely from TOSOTM, not RAL.

I'd love some better-sounding versions of I Call You Missing and Running Through the Garden.

[mikebise]

Thanks so much, Jeff, as always!!! :woohoo:

I had a few more to post today, but mediafire finally started giving me problems: "Prettiest Girl In The World" and "Rock A Bye Baby". Maybe tomorrow.

Again, thanks for cleaning up "All Over You"! It's even clearer!!!! :]

[mikebise]

I'd love some better-sounding versions of I Call You Missing and Running Through the Garden.

Wouldn't we all? That's the point. :) Hopefully, this thread will rustle up some amazing upgrades! :] The upgrades I've gotten of "Greta", "Ooh Ooh Baby" and more have been from threads like this on here, so maybe this will catch someone's eye, and they'll go, "I've got better quality than that!" and post it!

Well, it's my dream... ;)

[MacwoodFleet]

Wouldn't we all? That's the point. :) Hopefully, this thread will rustle up some amazing upgrades! :] The upgrades I've gotten of "Greta", "Ooh Ooh Baby" and more have been from threads like this on here, so maybe this will catch someone's eye, and they'll go, "I've got better quality than that!" and post it!

Well, it's my dream... ;)

That's my dream, too. Here's a great uninterrupted Stevie Nicks Live at Red Rocks recording I remastered if anyone's interested. Sounds much better than what's available.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/kkd61bw13jennm3/01%20Stevie%20Nicks%20Live%20at%20Red%20Rocks%20%28Uninterrupted%20Remix%29.m4a

[mikebise]

That's my dream, too. Here's a great uninterrupted Stevie Nicks Live at Red Rocks recording I remastered if anyone's interested. Sounds much better than what's available.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/kkd61bw13jennm3/01%20Stevie%20Nicks%20Live%20at%20Red%20Rocks%20%28Uninterrupted%20Remix%29.m4a

Ooh, thanks!!! I Can't Wait to download this tomorrow!!!!! :woohoo:

[HighPassion]

I found one of the versions of What Has ... but I'm sure I have one way clearer than this. This is from the "tango sessions" compilation.
It's ripped at 192 kbps straight from the LOSSLESS format (Unfortunately I don't have the lossless version...)

What Has Rock & Roll Ever Done For You:
http://www.mediafire.com/?paaz66a7sarh9bd


Even though it's from a Tango compilation, it's very Rock a Little. Just misplaced I guess

[DarkUponLight]

I CALL YOU MISSING

I only have ONE copy of this song, it's decent, but not the best. If anyone has better quality than what I have posted below, PLEEEEEASE upload it ;)

http://www.mediafire.com/?r8dt4z0nfj2118z

[DarkUponLight]

What Has Rock & Roll Ever Done For You:
http://www.mediafire.com/?paaz66a7sarh9bd


<b>Even though it's from a Tango compilation, it's very Rock a Little. Just misplaced I guess</b>

I heard a long time ago that this song was her "divorce song" to Kim Anderson & that it was intended for Rock a Little, but maybe she didn't have the room & held it over for Tango, but decided ultimately against it? Who knows... there's so many demos that have different versions from different periods of time/albums, that still never ended up being used, so this is yet another I guess...

[HighPassion]

I heard a long time ago that this song was her "divorce song" to Kim Anderson & that it was intended for Rock a Little, but maybe she didn't have the room & held it over for Tango, but decided ultimately against it? Who knows... there's so many demos that have different versions from different periods of time/albums, that still never ended up being used, so this is yet another I guess...

Yeah that's true. I heard before that there's a RAL era version of "Sorcerer" floating around.
But vocally on this What Has Rock & Roll Done For You, it sounds more like it was recorded in the Rock a Little era - and like, I guess being as none of these compilations were made professionally, someone might've bunched it in with other Tango demos. :shrug:

Not like it really matters anyway lol. Although I thought I should put that in because some people around here seem to be really condescending about what-stevie-demo-belongs-where :P

[KarmaContestant]

I've posted these before, but this is a good place to put them again. This folder has the best sounding Mirror Mirror alternates that I've heard - and they're lossless. A great Thousand Days demo is in there as well. The sound quality is really amazing on these!

http://www.mediafire.com/?l4z520f6fbv95

[HighPassion]

I've posted these before, but this is a good place to put them again. This folder has the best sounding Mirror Mirror alternates that I've heard - and they're lossless. A great Thousand Days demo is in there as well. The sound quality is really amazing on these!

http://www.mediafire.com/?l4z520f6fbv95

:blob1::blob2::eek::lol::woohoo:


I am going to soon have enough LOSSLESS Rock A Little demos for a whole CD!! Where do these things show up?!

[KarmaContestant]

:blob1::blob2::eek::lol::woohoo:


I am going to soon have enough LOSSLESS Rock A Little demos for a whole CD!! Where do these things show up?!

I got some masters recently in the mail, and these were on a CD that was labeled as something else - I think it was a mistake, but the person never wrote back when I asked about them. I was pleasantly surprised, and the sound quality really is a drastic improvement.

[HighPassion]

I got some masters recently in the mail, and these were on a CD that was labeled as something else - I think it was a mistake, but the person never wrote back when I asked about them. I was pleasantly surprised, and the sound quality really is a drastic improvement.

No kidding. I never really bothered listening to the other versions of Mirror Mirror solely because they were too muffled.
Where do you find these masters that you can buy? Because I've looked on e-bay and can't really find any.

I would love to get my hands on some of the original tapes of demos if possible. Like, the compilations (ex: Uncirculated Rumours, Rocking a Little on the Other Side of the Mirror) because I'd like to upload them in lossless format just to preserve quality. All mine totally SUCK now. And a lot of them are starting to skip towards the end....

[KarmaContestant]

No kidding. I never really bothered listening to the other versions of Mirror Mirror solely because they were too muffled.
Where do you find these masters that you can buy? Because I've looked on e-bay and can't really find any.

I would love to get my hands on some of the original tapes of demos if possible. Like, the compilations (ex: Uncirculated Rumours, Rocking a Little on the Other Side of the Mirror) because I'd like to upload them in lossless format just to preserve quality. All mine totally SUCK now. And a lot of them are starting to skip towards the end....

There are reels on eBay every now and then, but the best way to get masters is just by trade, or online sites like this.

Many of those demo compilations are hard to find in lossless quality because they've been traded so many times. Every now and then you'll get lucky.

[gldstwmn]

I am having problems downloading the following three files from this thread. Is anyone else experiencing problems with these files (all on mediafire)?


From Post #10:
I Can't Wait:
http://www.mediafire.com/?52otdpnsopoqemq

All the other files downloaded just fine but these three won't.

It's working for me but if you want I'll try posting it on Megaupload.

[jeffd8382]

I've posted these before, but this is a good place to put them again. This folder has the best sounding Mirror Mirror alternates that I've heard - and they're lossless. A great Thousand Days demo is in there as well. The sound quality is really amazing on these!

http://www.mediafire.com/?l4z520f6fbv95

Thanks for posting these again, Mathew! These are excellent and definitely worth downloading for anyone that hasn't heard them yet. :thumbsup:

[mikebise]

You know?

I see no evil... and I speak no evil...
I'M IN LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But I don't think I should say anything to anyone... ;)

Yes, I CAN!

[SuiteShangriLa]

Here's another Greta from the Rock A Little era.

Greta #2
http://www.mediafire.com/?krsfsik4gn1kc9m

[SuiteShangriLa]

I think this might be just a tiny bit better sounding than what was already posted??

I Call You Missing (RAL)
http://www.mediafire.com/?akubr66pogjla1c

[KarmaContestant]

WHOA Mike!!! i've been collecting Stevie demos and outtakes for DECADES and i've NEVER heard that outtake of Rock a Little!!! THANK YOU!!!:xoxo:

Likewise! Thanks much, Mike. :angel:

[mikebise]

Happy to share and help upgrade. Yes, I can...

"Well I thought that there was a connection...
Well I’m almost there
And I think it’s right...
There you go again
Well I think I meant
'Give me a little time'...

Well she sees no evil, and she speaks no evil
I don’t think that they say anything to anyone
But you…"

[KarmaContestant]

No Spoken Word - Outtake (Be Aware...)
http://www.mediafire.com/?8er1911jybyb6p7

No Spoken Word - Outtake/Alternate
http://www.mediafire.com/?84syg7g74zz58qb

Battle of the Dragons w/Tom - #1
http://www.mediafire.com/?fu0h8nh850689h0

Battle of the Dragons w/Tom - #2
http://www.mediafire.com/?fd4y9dqwc4c2mje

Imperial Hotel - With Full End Lyric
http://www.mediafire.com/?3y23a2fr1v51qi4

Chanel, Chanel
http://www.mediafire.com/?9mt7fmqp5ya831f

[mikebise]

Ooh, thanks for posting those, Mathew! I'm downloading them tomorrow. I wonder, will there be some upgrades????

There she goes again, and she says,
“Do you think that this could be the one?”

Well she sees no evil, well she’s in love!
And he speaks no evil, she’s in love!
I’m afraid they say anything to anyone...

[jeffd8382]

:wavey:
Here are 3 more enhanced versions from demos posted in this thread...

"Joan of Arc (Take 9 - 03_09_1986)" (original = lossy/mp3?)
http://www.mediafire.com/?8gfn8y82abgs9ok

Notes:
This one had excellent fidelity, but was really soft and very treble-y (imo), so I did some re-equalization, boosted the overall volume, and played with the stereo image a bit.

"Rose Garden" (RAL demo version) (original = mp3 160 kbps)
http://www.mediafire.com/?ycou3azydsa20da

Notes:
This one really sounded good to begin with... I just lowered the intro volume to match the rest of the track, tried adding some high frequency details with a plug-in I use, re-equalized a little, and edited fade-out.

"Love Is Like A River" (RAL demo version) (original = mp3 320 kbps)
http://www.mediafire.com/?96za82eqb3exabu

Notes:
This one was a tough one... the sound had been boosted to the point where there was EXTREME clipping/distortion in the sound (particularly in the right channel). So luckily I found the mp3 I had of this, I opened it in MP3Gain to try and figure out what the right volume level should be. Then I used a plug-in that can shape the waveform (add punch to loud noises) to try and add some dynamics back into the sound. I then tried playing with the stereo image some, re-equalized, light noise reduction, etc... It still doesn't sound too great, but I think it's a little better.

Enjoy!

[mikebise]

Oh, thanks for doing that, Jeff! Poet, as always, of technology.... Thank you!

"Oh, just remember when you are alone
That I at least have a right to say I miss you!
I miss you..."

[jeffd8382]

Oh, thanks for doing that, Jeff! Poet, as always, of technology.... Thank you!

"Oh, just remember when you are alone
That I at least have a right to say I miss you!
I miss you..."

You're welcome! Right at the moment I was posting, there was a huge bolt of lightning and I got a shock on my computer and it restarted... kinda creepy! I wasn't sure if the post had gone through or not... glad it did so I didn't have to remember what I typed lol!

"Everything all around me is electric now!" AH!!

[mikebise]

Spooky! :eek:

"It's a mystery to me now...
And the days are flying!
Oh, well, I always seem to...
You like me, don't you?!"

;) :shrug:

[Silylily]

You know?

I see no evil... and I speak no evil...
I'M IN LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But I don't think I should say anything to anyone... ;)

Yes, I CAN!

You're so adorable. ;)

[mikebise]

Some nice upgrades going on!!!!!

Anyone wanna try the sax outtake of "Thousand Days"????? We need an upgrade!

"Chanel, Chanel... Is that really your name?"

:]

[mikebise]

"Rock A Bye Baby"
http://www.mediafire.com/?u2o2lq79gad7yxf

[KarmaContestant]

So
"Chanel, Chanel... Is that really your name?"

:]

Probably not - I wonder if it's the elusive song listed at the copyright site as "In The Darkness". "Well, they can't stand up in the darkness..."


Anyone wanna try the sax outtake of "Thousand Days"????? We need an upgrade!




Well, here's mine. http://www.mediafire.com/?ut3a47qnal8oq15 Not great, but it is what it is.

[KarmaContestant]

"Running Through The Garden"
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XWXMCT0N



Thanks!

This was a slight upgrade for me. It's a slightly smaller file size that mine, at the same kbps and running time, but plays brighter with more airspace and seems to have slightly less speaker-busting crunchy sounds.

[KarmaContestant]

Not a demo or an outtake: the promo 45 radio edit of Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You.

http://www.mediafire.com/?mrslb9cz40qtdst

[mikebise]

That fade edit is really neat! And thanks for the single as the artwork as well!!!

I also think the "Thousand Days" outtake was an upgrade for me. :] That is one of my Holy Grail songs, like "Julia" from The Wild Heart (which was posted here last month in fantastic sound finally!). So I'm ALWAYS on the lookout for a better Rock A Little "Thousand Days"!

[HighPassion]

"Rock A Bye Baby"
http://www.mediafire.com/?u2o2lq79gad7yxf

I think my boxers got a little wet.


Is this from your transfers your doing? I've never heard this good quality of one. Even though it's not perfect, it's still awesome.

[KarmaContestant]

That fade edit is really neat! And thanks for the single as the artwork as well!!!

I also think the "Thousand Days" outtake was an upgrade for me. :] That is one of my Holy Grail songs, like "Julia" from The Wild Heart (which was posted here last month in fantastic sound finally!). So I'm ALWAYS on the lookout for a better Rock A Little "Thousand Days"!

Likewise. I'm always on the elusive quest to put together a Mirror Mirror album, and of course better sounding tracks make the whole proejct more enjoyable.

[mikebise]

What would you put on your Mirror, Mirror album? Things like this fascinate me!

Ooh, I hate mediafire being so slow to upload these days... :(

[gldstwmn]

"Rock A Bye Baby"
http://www.mediafire.com/?u2o2lq79gad7yxf

Oh.My.God.:shocked: This song has to be about the marriage.

[KarmaContestant]

What would you put on your Mirror, Mirror album? Things like this fascinate me!



Glad you asked! Here is my current playlist. It's...in a state of flux, I'm not sure that I like the running order. Each side is about 22-and-a-half-minutes long. Mirror Mirror, Battle of the Dragons, Rock A Little and HAEWAFY are official or promo releases, but the other tracks are outtakes/alternates.

I wanted to include Are You Mine and Reconsider me, but both feel out of place on this particular collection of songs.

Side A is great up until The Nightmare, which seems out-of-order. I haven't found a sequence yet for side B that I like.

Side A:
Mirror Mirror
Chanel Chanel
Love Is Like A River
Running Through The Garden
The Nightmare
She Loves Him Still

Side B:
Battle of the Dragons
Rock A Little
Thousand Days
No Spoken Word
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You

[mikebise]

Awesome! Hey, when Chris gets her "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You?" versions transferred, maybe one of those will go on your Mirror, Mirror. What about "One More Big Time Rock And Roll Star"?

I'm working on a darker Rock A Little, centered around "Night Gallery", which is similar to the song "Rock A Little" for me. Let me work on it a little more...

[gldstwmn]

I love Night Gallery. And yes, it shouldn't be too much longer on the tape transfers of HAEWAFY. :)

[mikebise]

It's hard for me to decide on "Prettiest Girl In The World". This version was only 128, but it's not distorted or warbly.

"Prettiest Girl In The World"
http://www.mediafire.com/?i75sntyzf0kt23b

[Christopher]

Awesome! Hey, when Chris gets her "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You?" versions transferred, maybe one of those will go on your Mirror, Mirror. What about "One More Big Time Rock And Roll Star"?

I'm working on a darker Rock A Little, centered around "Night Gallery", which is similar to the song "Rock A Little" for me. Let me work on it a little more...

Yes. I imagine the initial shelved recordings to be even darker than what ended up on RAL.
I would definitely add "At The Fair" in my mix and maybe "Something Exquisite" even though it bares strong resemblances in melody & structure to "No Spoken Word", but its still a good song. "But if you do not run the race ~ How will you know? If you do not run it ~ then you cannot win it, ever!"

~Mirror Mirror~

Running Through The Garden
Love is Like A River
She Still Loves Him
Night Gallery
At The Fair
Battle Of The Dragon

Jimmy Come On Back
She Calls Him Missing
Chanel Chanel
Something Exquisite
City Of Hope
One More Big Time Rock n'Roll Star
Mirror Mirror

I excluded any RAL tracks, because there is enough material to have had 2 entire records - one in 84' and another in 85':shrug:

[KarmaContestant]

I've tried to keep my playlist to the length that an album released in 1984/85 would have been, but it's been hard to limit the song choices.

I left off At The Fair and Night Gallery because both sound like demos, and no versions have circulated that sound like almost-complete studio tracks...

I don't think Jimmy Come Back would have been recorded if Jimmy had not walked off the project, so....would this song even exist in a world where Mirror Mirror was released?

Something Exquisite and One More Big Time Rock n'Roll Star - I love these songs, but not as much as Thousand Days and the RAL tracks I used. Hard choices!

If the Mirror Mirror album had been released, I don't think RAL (the album)would have ever have happened. I'm fairly certain that No Spoken Word and The Nightmare and Rock A Little would be there as songs, but....the rest of them seem unlikely, with the exception of I Sing For The Things.

I'm guessing that Tied Up In Promises, Imperial Hotel, Talk To Me, I Can't Wait, Some Become Stranger, Sister Honey - maybe even HAEWAFY - none would have been recorded (or maybe even written) if Mirror Mirror had happened as planned. These all feel like 'emergency' tracks: Oh noes! Jimmy is gone and we have to start over and still get an album out reasonable quickly! What can we use and who can collaborate to make this happen!?

Ah, speculation!

[Thrown_Down]

Excuse my ignorance here, but exactly why did Jimmy walk out on Stevie and 'Mirror Mirror'/'Rock A Little'?

[KarmaContestant]

Excuse my ignorance here, but exactly why did Jimmy walk out on Stevie and 'Mirror Mirror'/'Rock A Little'?

As the story goes, her life and antics were just too crazy for him to continue on the project. Too many drugs, too little work going on. Stevie was difficult to deal with and he just threw his hands up and left.

I've also read that it was a mutual parting of ways.

[KarmaContestant]

I have to take back what I said about Talk To Me probably not being recorded if Mirror Mirror had happened:

The song was written by Chas Sandford, who co-wrote John Waite's "Missing You". Sandford also plays most of the instruments on "Talk to Me". The song was brought to the attention of Nicks by producer Jimmy Iovine, "who was always on the hunt for a hit song." Stevie says she didn't like the song at first because she had trouble with the vocals, but Iovine persisted and she eventually recorded it. Jim Keltner was in the studio next door doing some drum overdubs during the recording process. After Nicks explained her dilemma, Keltner gave her some words of encouragement and offered to stay with her and be her audience. Nicks sang the song twice during the session and then it was finished.

And this is interesting as well:

Jimmy Iovine was originally brought in to produce the album and worked on the original demo recordings in 1984. However, he parted ways with Nicks midway through the recording sessions, claiming he did not like the direction in which Nicks wanted to take the album. It was later revealed that the two had been in a relationship for several years, and he left production of Rock a Little due to their break-up and Nicks' subsequent relationship with Eagles member Joe Walsh (for whom she penned her much-loved ballad "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You"). Keith Olsen, Rick Nowels and Nicks herself took over production duties after Iovine's departure.

[KarmaContestant]

Found this on NickFix, part of a Jim Ladd interview from 1998:

Stevie: Okay, the great story that goes along with Reconsider Me is in 1985 when I was doing Rock A Little, Jimmy Iovine brought me this song. Warren Zevon wrote it, and, of course I love Warren because I've known Warren since before Lindsey and I joined Fleetwood Mac. Warren and Waddy were some of our friends so we go back a long way. He brought this song to me. Jimmy thought it was a very important song for me to do. He thought it was like "Stop Draggin More Heart" was in a way. It was that kind of a career changing song. And, of course, you couldn't tell me anything in 1985 and I just really didn't want to do another person's song, you know? So, I at the end, I did record I it and then when all the songs were recorded in the end, you know, a couple songs had to go, I pulled it because it wasn't one of my songs and now, I didn't even remember that Reconsider Me existed until Atlantic went back in all their vaults and found a bunch of stuff-a bunch of wild and crazy stuff that's been lost forever…and um…they loved it and I said great, you know, great. It's a great song. I was very surprised that I sung it well because I didn't really remember recording it that much so I didn't really remember the fine tune parts of it, but when they played it for me I thought 'wow, it's a great song'. I'm not a real 'reconsider me' gal but it's okay because I didn't write this. I can sing this and I can interpret this for Warren and I hope everybody really likes it.

[mikebise]

No, "Talk To Me" was recorded in May 1985, after Stevie and the record company coaxed Jimmy into coming on back to try to get some hit singles for Stevie. They recorded 5 songs that May. The plan was to get them done and release the album in August 1985.

So, Jimmy left, but he also returned. Ginny Kamano herself said that "Talk To Me" was recorded in May 1985 when Iovine returned to record 5 more songs with Stevie. Maybe that's when "Reconsider Me" was recorded as well, May 1985.

[SaidSomething]

I was just wondering if anyone had a clear version? Its my name but all I've heard from the ones I've heard was the he broke my hand and went on starving...then will be bop...you're taking my part out...sheesh.

[mikebise]

Oh, I love your lyrics!!!! :lol:

I don't have a good version.

There were several "Jimmy, Come On Back"s in that first eBay win of about 4 weeks ago. Let's hope that winner shares with us all.

[HighPassion]

Thanks for the info KC. I think it's kinda funny that Stevie doesn't even remember a lot of RAL. I feel that Reconsider Me just didn't fit the album at that time. I'ts one of Stevies most dated sounding albums... And I so much like better a lot of the unreleased stuff. Maybe that's why Jimmy didn't like where it was going;.... She had all this great material, and then ended up deciding on Imperial Hotel and Sister Honey...

[starshine]

Thanks for the info KC. I think it's kinda funny that Stevie doesn't even remember a lot of RAL. I feel that Reconsider Me just didn't fit the album at that time. I'ts one of Stevies most dated sounding albums... And I so much like better a lot of the unreleased stuff. Maybe that's why Jimmy didn't like where it was going;.... She had all this great material, and then ended up deciding on Imperial Hotel and Sister Honey...I have to agree with this statement esp the end about IH & SH those songs are just 'fillers' to me. All flash no substance really. Now I know some people like them and thats fine but sometimes I think what was left on the 'cutting' floor so to speak was better than what we'd ended up with. Plus as we have mentioned many many times I always wonder if the original concept LP that is : Mirror, Mirror with just Jimmy Iovine himself--I do wonder if itself would've been a much better product?? I would hope so but well I guess we'll not ever know. Does anyone have any clue what songs were originally recorded for Mirror, Mirror. I'm sure we've discussed this before at length but I just don't recall other than MM and maybe One More Big Time R & R Star --I still think this was recorded earlier because of Stevie's voice than? same with Battle of The Dragon. I do think I would've loved MM better than RAL but we'll never know will we? sad but true.:shrug::D

[mikebise]

"At The Fair"
http://www.mediafire.com/?po4swhgiosgnmwa

"Are You Mine?" (duet with Billy Burnette)
http://www.mediafire.com/?daldtk9jovzoh75

"No Spoken Word" (demo)
http://www.mediafire.com/?2c0h580fxrccq39

[mikebise]

"No Spoken Word" (outtake ~ "Be aware!")
http://www.mediafire.com/?x9100cns5w9h5be

"The Nightmare" Piano demo 1
http://www.mediafire.com/?d23a5chur1a032l

"The Nightmare" Piano demo 2
http://www.mediafire.com/?70r3g9i2h768u6a

[mikebise]

"Tied Up In Promises" 2
http://www.mediafire.com/?fhhzevv942xt2of

[HighPassion]

So are these actually from a LOSSLESS source? I'm listening to them and notice that even though they're in WAV format, they're still very lossy and not much different than an mp3 version... Like, they still have that compressed sound.

So are they ripped as a wav file from an mp3 source?

[mikebise]

I had posted this same alternate Single Remix of "I Can't Wait" a few months ago, but I found it on another CD, and it sounds better to me. Maybe not. Still ripping glitches in it, not from me. (I think it sounds better, and there are some extra Stevie vocals!)

"I Can't Wait" - Alternate Single Remix
http://www.mediafire.com/?ih01zw9auuu5558

[SaidSomething]

Hi you guys. Happy Easter, to those who celebrate. And for those who don't...I hope today is just as meaningful to you as well.

I have an odd request. I have had some painful losses recently and some of those I love are having a hard time...my Mum, Sue, Kristin....you don't know them but I just like to give posts a bit of me.

Anyway, I am sure some of you have been where I am sometimes...kind of sad but, you just keep going...and you keep things" up" the best you can.

So, here is my request. Stevies sad but thread of hope songs actually helpp me feel better...its weird, I don't know if you guys go through something kind of deep...and you had a demo or song playing on loop at the time...

I lost my sister and grandmother in my arms not long ago...

When I was driving in the rain without my glasses to the hospital...after she was gone, I had the clearest Sanctuary playing...and it was like a session cd.

The silver springs multi demo/outtake...etc...were for my sister.

Time is going to be really bright...and I was hoping someone had a collection.
you guys have been keeping me going as I take my computer phone...and all of you with me...everywhere I am pulled...and go. You make me smile.

[HighPassion]

Hi you guys. Happy Easter, to those who celebrate. And for those who don't...I hope today is just as meaningful to you as well.

I have an odd request. I have had some painful losses recently and some of those I love are having a hard time...my Mum, Sue, Kristin....you don't know them but I just like to give posts a bit of me.

Anyway, I am sure some of you have been where I am sometimes...kind of sad but, you just keep going...and you keep things" up" the best you can.

So, here is my request. Stevies sad but thread of hope songs actually helpp me feel better...its weird, I don't know if you guys go through something kind of deep...and you had a demo or song playing on loop at the time...

I lost my sister and grandmother in my arms not long ago...

When I was driving in the rain without my glasses to the hospital...after she was gone, I had the clearest Sanctuary playing...and it was like a session cd.

The silver springs multi demo/outtake...etc...were for my sister.

Time is going to be really bright...and I was hoping someone had a collection.
you guys have been keeping me going as I take my computer phone...and all of you with me...everywhere I am pulled...and go. You make me smile.

Aw, this was so touching. It's so true though, songs work magic when you're in a certain mood. Especially Stevie songs. I know I've had a billion moments with them. Keep your chin up :thumbsup:

[Silylily]

Hi you guys. Happy Easter, to those who celebrate. And for those who don't...I hope today is just as meaningful to you as well.

I have an odd request. I have had some painful losses recently and some of those I love are having a hard time...my Mum, Sue, Kristin....you don't know them but I just like to give posts a bit of me.

Anyway, I am sure some of you have been where I am sometimes...kind of sad but, you just keep going...and you keep things" up" the best you can.

So, here is my request. Stevies sad but thread of hope songs actually helpp me feel better...its weird, I don't know if you guys go through something kind of deep...and you had a demo or song playing on loop at the time...

I lost my sister and grandmother in my arms not long ago...

When I was driving in the rain without my glasses to the hospital...after she was gone, I had the clearest Sanctuary playing...and it was like a session cd.

The silver springs multi demo/outtake...etc...were for my sister.

Time is going to be really bright...and I was hoping someone had a collection.
you guys have been keeping me going as I take my computer phone...and all of you with me...everywhere I am pulled...and go. You make me smile.

That was sweet and made me cry. God bless you, angel. :angel:

[SaidSomething]

I didn't mean to be so blue...life is what you make it. What you focus on grows...and I've been rolling in luxury and then didn't have a couple buck for smokes...but, I have been blessed and loved without condition...and I also love without fear. With age comes wisdom and I realize all along...I've been the richest guy in the world.

So hit it...

Thank you for your words you guys...I'm smiling.


My request is what I didn't actually post.

Does any one have the Sanctuary compilation and Silver Springs compilation?

Xo
Jim

[HighPassion]

I didn't mean to be so blue...life is what you make it. What you focus on grows...and I've been rolling in luxury and then didn't have a couple buck for smokes...but, I have been blessed and loved without condition...and I also love without fear. With age comes wisdom and I realize all along...I've been the richest guy in the world.

So hit it...

Thank you for your words you guys...I'm smiling.


My request is what I didn't actually post.

Does any one have the Sanctuary compilation and Silver Springs compilation?

Xo
Jim


Hmm... Were they compilations of different versions of those songs? I do have the songs themselves, but no compilations listes as such:shrug:

[mikebise]

"It's Not A Dream"
http://www.mediafire.com/?r6p7wu3u79280v7

[mikebise]

The sound is not great, but definitely worth having for Stevie historical purposes:

"Talk To Me" - Demo
http://www.mediafire.com/?smvh6kmzcu2qvxm

[Ghosty]

Awesome! Hey, when Chris gets her "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You?" versions transferred, maybe one of those will go on your Mirror, Mirror. What about "One More Big Time Rock And Roll Star"?

I'm working on a darker Rock A Little, centered around "Night Gallery", which is similar to the song "Rock A Little" for me. Let me work on it a little more...


That sounds like it'd be a very cool cd. I like Night Gallery a lot. Rockabye Baby has sort of a dark feel too. And Rock a Little I LOVE.

I've always wanted to make my own versions of OSOTM which I'd change to Mirror Mirror. And do my own Street Angel called Maybe Love. But I don't have very good sound quality demos. I should download some of these on this thread.

[mikebise]

"Mirror, Mirror" 5 - B-Side version
http://www.mediafire.com/?bukgwkrjw59t3c7

Remember, although released in 1994 as the b-side to the US cassette single of "Blue Denim", this is a 1984 recording from Rock A Little, not re-recorded for Street Angel.

[mikebise]

Not great quality, but all of these feature very cool alternate vocals by Stevie:

"Sister Honey" - Outtake (cuts)
http://www.mediafire.com/?cgqcauoy7sngsh9

"She Still Loves Him" 2
http://www.mediafire.com/?zm7c78yuvs0t278

"The Nightmare" - Outtake 2
http://www.mediafire.com/?g99ygtmq06bje5o

"The Nightmare" - Outtake 3
http://www.mediafire.com/?iqw9y52rutfr3hc

[mikebise]

"I Can't Wait" (Outtake/extra lyrics)
http://www.mediafire.com/?dhu05zcvidam01q


This version sounds pretty crappy, doesn't it? :eek:
;)

[KarmaContestant]

^^^ Thanks, Mike. Looking forward to those Nightmare outtakes, and Sister Honey as well.

[RavenOfRhiannon]

I can't take all the credit for this, as I found someone on here a few years ago who had almost the exact same playlist. I just put the 'Juliet' outtake/demo (?) on it.

Mirror, Mirror
Rock a Little (Extended Non-LP Version)
All the Beautiful Worlds
Talk to Me (Time/Life Remix)
Lady from the Mountains
One More Big Time Rock & Roll Star (Full-End Lyric)
The Nightmare (Vocal Mix)
Battle of the Dragon (Remix)
Juliet
What Has Rock & Roll Ever Done for You
No Spoken Word (Live)
Joan of Arc
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You (45 Version)

[SapphireSister]

"It's Not A Dream"
http://www.mediafire.com/?r6p7wu3u79280v7

What's this?? :shrug:

[gldstwmn]

What's this?? :shrug:

You've never heard this song before?

[SapphireSister]

You've never heard this song before?

Ok yes now that I've listened to it I have definitely heard it before but I just didn't recognize that title. Maybe I have it saved under something else or it just never stood out. It's rare though that there is a demo I don't recognize right off the bat.

[mikebise]

Yeah, I don't see a lot of people posting "It's Not A Dream" a lot, or any other versions, aside from the keyboard/drum machine demo that's with "Blue Lamp".

[jeffd8382]

Yeah, I don't see a lot of people posting "It's Not A Dream" a lot, or any other versions, aside from the keyboard/drum machine demo that's with "Blue Lamp".

Yeah, this is true! Thank you so much for posting all of these demos/outtakes... I don't think I had heard this version of "It's Not A Dream" before either. You'll be glad to know it's definitely a lossless source too! :thumbsup:

I have a couple of tracks I plan on sharing here too... that is if mediafire will let me upload it. :rolleyes: For some reason over the last couple weeks, most of the time my uploads stall and then fail. The upload speed starts good, then it starts fluctuating, dropping and then stalling altogether... Is anyone else having this problem? I've tried disabling my browser plug-ins and temporarily disabling my anti-virus program (which makes me very uncomfortable), but nothing seems to make it any better.

[mikebise]

Yeah, this is true! Thank you so much for posting all of these demos/outtakes... I don't think I had heard this version of "It's Not A Dream" before either. You'll be glad to know it's definitely a lossless source too! :thumbsup:


Well, Jeff, I am RE-uploading ALL of my Stevie CDs to my computer now JUST for that potential purpose.

"Dig it?!!" ;):thumbsup:

[mikebise]

BTW, it's been 100 years since I've listened to cassettes or vinyl, but did Rock A Little cassettes have slightly longer versions of some songs, like a few seconds longer than the CD? Like "Some Become Strangers" and "No Spoken Word"?

Like, for example, the 12" vinyl of "Rooms On Fire" is several seconds longer than the CD-single release. Just wondering. :shrug:

"Poet... Priest Of Nothing... Legend..."

[HighPassion]

Well, Jeff, I am RE-uploading ALL of my Stevie CDs to my computer now JUST for that potential purpose.

"Dig it?!!" ;):thumbsup:

Well I know you pretty much ignore every post that I write, and it's not really any weight off my shoulder, but could I make a suggestion?

If this is what you're doing, don't you think it would be easier to be a bit more organized about it? People have to dig and search through so much around these - and like, often times download doubles of the exact same thing.

I know you're saying it's because something could be better quality than the other - but even so - sorting things like that would be much easier if there was some system to it.

Like, why don't you just re-edit your first post whenever you have a new song to post? Then people don't have to dig and search?

Or why dont you post WHICH compilation a song comes from?

I'm just saying this because collecting demos can become very tedious and disorganized - so a distributor should really do all they can to try to keep it as organized as possible in consideration for the other fans.


Again, I'm pretty sure this is going to be overlooked by you. And I don't really care, but I'm just saying this in consideration for other people downloading in here.

[KarmaContestant]

BTW, it's been 100 years since I've listened to cassettes or vinyl, but did Rock A Little cassettes have slightly longer versions of some songs, like a few seconds longer than the CD? Like "Some Become Strangers" and "No Spoken Word"?

Like, for example, the 12" vinyl of "Rooms On Fire" is several seconds longer than the CD release. Just wondering. :shrug:

"Poet... Priest Of Nothing... Legend..."

I think this happened a lot with vinyl. Vinyl has more time for fades and the track time could be subjective. I might think the track ends when I hear no more of the song, but the person recording track times might consider the silence between tracks to be part of the preceding track.

[mikebise]

I think this happened a lot with vinyl. Vinyl has more time for fades and the track time could be subjective. I might think the track ends when I hear no more of the song, but the person recording track times might consider the silence between tracks to be part of the preceding track.

Well, I meant a few extra seconds vocals by Stevie as it's fading. Just like the extended "Rooms On Fire" example, where there is some more Stevie on the vinyl than on the CD-single. Maybe I'm hearing things.

"Am I wasting my time? Make up your mind pleeeaaasssse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Put the blame on me if you want to ~ ooh, very well NOW!

HOW WILL WE FEEL TWENTY YEARS FROM NOW???!!!

OH YEAH!!!"

[KarmaContestant]

Or why dont you post WHICH compilation a song comes from?

I'm just saying this because collecting demos can become very tedious and disorganized - so a distributor should really do all they can to try to keep it as organized as possible in consideration for the other fans.


Daniel, I think you have some great suggestions (I like the idea of updating the original post, but many boards have a time-limit on the window to edit a post), but as a long time collector of demos, I feel comfortable saying it's up to the collector to organize their collection the way they see fit.

As an example, I don't keep any demo compilations because there is so much duplication and the sources vary tremendously and the playing speed of the tracks can vary depending on the tape deck that was used to transfer the songs to CD - for these reasons and more I find it easier to keep one list of demos/alternates, A to Z, and upgrade songs for quality whenever possible.

The days of fan-made demo compilations are over, really. I agree that it might be helpful to know if the version of Silver Springs you are downloading is from Ivory Keys or Mirrorball or Valentine Demos or Songs of Rhiannon, but it's irrelevant in the long run when you end up with 16 copies of the same piano demo spread across multiple compilations.

[HighPassion]

Daniel, I think you have some great suggestions (I like the idea of updating the original post, but many boards have a time-limit on the window to edit a post), but as a long time collector of demos, I feel comfortable saying it's up to the collector to organize their collection the way they see fit.

As an example, I don't keep any demo compilations because there is so much duplication and the sources vary tremendously and the playing speed of the tracks can vary depending on the tape deck that was used to transfer the songs to CD - for these reasons and more I find it easier to keep one list of demos/alternates, A to Z, and upgrade songs for quality whenever possible.

The days of fan-made demo compilations are over, really. I agree that it might be helpful to know if the version of Silver Springs you are downloading is from Ivory Keys or Mirrorball or Valentine Demos or Songs of Rhiannon, but it's irrelevant in the long run when you end up with 16 copies of the same piano demo spread across multiple compilations.

Mmmm this is true. :thumbsup:

However, with re-editing a post. You seem to get quite a long perioud of time to do this. Like, I posted something yesterday morning and I can still go back and edit it... I mean, it's evident that eventually it will time out, but making an effort while you can can pay off in the long run. It just seems more practical to me, but to each their own.

[mikebise]

"It's too much, baby... To be continued...!!!" :thumbsup:
;)

[KarmaContestant]

"It's too much, baby... To be continued...!!!" :thumbsup:
;)

Mike, you're killing me with all these lyric posts. They're starting to feel like episodes in a long TV drama. :laugh:

[mikebise]

Mike, you're killing me with all these lyric posts. They're starting to feel like episodes in a long TV drama. :laugh:

"Oooohhhhhh.... Well, I always seem to!
You like me, don't you?!?!
But you can't hide the feeling!
I heard someone said something about ~
He said: 'Dig it'?!?!!!" :thumbsup:

I wanna who is it....

[mikebise]

Mathew, hopefully there will be some more Rock A Little recordings with better sound to post soon! "It's too much, baby... To be continued..."

"Speak no evil!" ;)

[jeffd8382]

Hey everyone... I'm pleased to report that finally mediafire is working for me today.. yay! Mike recently posted a piano demo of "The Nightmare" (thanks, Mike!).. so I went back to a CD I had from a long time ago to compare the sound quality. I found that the one I had actually had better fidelity (some more hiss too, but c'est la vie!), so I thought I would share it here (in two parts, although the CD has them together in one long track). In addition, the preceding track on the CD is titled "Gypsy Beggars" and sounds like it was recorded at the exact same time as "The Nightmare" piano demo (piano & vocals are at the same level and same spot in stereo image). For anyone wondering, the CD compilation was titled "Twisted", but I've seen it more often referred to as "Enchanted Outtakes". I used some gentle noise reduction to reduce hiss a little and faded hiss at beginnings and ends.

"Gypsy Beggars" (piano demo):
http://www.mediafire.com/?dd13zs5crv7le91

"The Nightmare" (piano demo - part 1):
http://www.mediafire.com/?h2c5mk85zkhbw7u

"The Nightmare" (piano demo - part 2):
http://www.mediafire.com/?8bowrbd8y884gv4

Hopefully this will be an upgrade for some of you!

:wavey:

[mikebise]

I just got through downloading, Jeff, and the enhancements are spectacular! Thanks!

[markolas]

Is Tied Up in Promises from RAL? I have two versions, but one is labeled Wild Heart, the other is TOSOTM. I also have Prettiest Girl labeled as from TOSOTM.

[KarmaContestant]

Is Tied Up in Promises from RAL?

Yes, it is.

[randydesertrat]

As you all are no doubt aware, most of the Rock A Little outtakes and demos speeds are quite fast due to multiple copying and sharing via cassette format back in the day. At times Stevie sounds like a girl of 13 or a singing chipmunk! I have always wanted to get around to restoring these fast tracks to their proper speed and pitch. I have begun with Mirror, Mirror since we have a finished released track for a guide.

There are seven known tracks of Mirror, Mirror out there; the released track plus six outtakes. I am posting the outtakes here in WAV format. They have been restored to proper pitch and speed and have been optimized in volume to Odb. The audio quality of the tracks varies but is mostly good.

Of the six outtakes there are two different versions of the song. The first version is the "rock version" with the steady beat, different melody and lyrics. The second version is the one with the same backing track as the released version with five different vocal takes by Stevie.

Mirror, Mirror [Version #1]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2uun5elj3wc2ykl

There is no known complete copy of this version in circulation. In this outtake the music fades out midway through and then fades back in. For this pitch restored version I have spliced these two sections together so that the music never completely fades away and it sounds more like one take. For the pitch restoration I used the song "Rock A Little (Go Ahead Lily)" as my guide and that seemed a good match.


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #1]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?hnbcwwg28v1csrn

The melodies vary greatly in the five takes of this second version. They are primarily identified by Stevie's last line in each take. In this first take the last line is "In spite of what you say, well I really wanted you".


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #2]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?8fbw2i11bc8avww

In this second take Stevie's last line is "Now this will leave you haunted, I really wanted you!"


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #3]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mhb4h31zczgkbby

In this third take Stevie's last line is "Well ask your mirror, well I really wanted you...."


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #4]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ulgadkl9gwobwr7

In this fourth take Stevie's last line is "This will leave you haunted in your mirror".


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #5]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?e8pls894e28jyjc

This fifth take includes most of Stevie's final vocal with a few different lines that were later re-recorded. In this take Stevie does not sing the bridge or the last chorus. The vocal ends at the instrumental section and the song remains instrumental from there to the end. The ending on this take fades out instead of finishing cold like the others do.

Enjoy everybody! Hopefully I'll get to restoring more of the Rock A Little fast tracks soon.

[HighPassion]

As you all are no doubt aware, most of the Rock A Little outtakes and demos speeds are quite fast due to multiple copying and sharing via cassette format back in the day. At times Stevie sounds like a girl of 13 or a singing chipmunk! I have always wanted to get around to restoring these fast tracks to their proper speed and pitch. I have begun with Mirror, Mirror since we have a finished released track for a guide.

There are seven known tracks of Mirror, Mirror out there; the released track plus six outtakes. I am posting the outtakes here in WAV format. They have been restored to proper pitch and speed and have been optimized in volume to Odb. The audio quality of the tracks varies but is mostly good.

Of the six outtakes there are two different versions of the song. The first version is the "rock version" with the steady beat, different melody and lyrics. The second version is the one with the same backing track as the released version with five different vocal takes by Stevie.

Mirror, Mirror [Version #1]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2uun5elj3wc2ykl

There is no known complete copy of this version in circulation. In this outtake the music fades out midway through and then fades back in. For this pitch restored version I have spliced these two sections together so that the music never completely fades away and it sounds more like one take. For the pitch restoration I used the song "Rock A Little (Go Ahead Lily)" as my guide and that seemed a good match.


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #1]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?hnbcwwg28v1csrn

The melodies vary greatly in the five takes of this second version. They are primarily identified by Stevie's last line in each take. In this first take the last line is "In spite of what you say, well I really wanted you".


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #2]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?8fbw2i11bc8avww

In this second take Stevie's last line is "Now this will leave you haunted, I really wanted you!"


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #3]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mhb4h31zczgkbby

In this third take Stevie's last line is "Well ask your mirror, well I really wanted you...."


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #4]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ulgadkl9gwobwr7

In this fourth take Stevie's last line is "This will leave you haunted in your mirror".


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #5]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?e8pls894e28jyjc

This fifth take includes most of Stevie's final vocal with a few different lines that were later re-recorded. In this take Stevie does not sing the bridge or the last chorus. The vocal ends at the instrumental section and the song remains instrumental from there to the end. The ending on this take fades out instead of finishing cold like the others do.

Enjoy everybody! Hopefully I'll get to restoring more of the Rock A Little fast tracks soon.

I Like You :)
Thanks for your hard work!!

[jeffd8382]

As you all are no doubt aware, most of the Rock A Little outtakes and demos speeds are quite fast due to multiple copying and sharing via cassette format back in the day. At times Stevie sounds like a girl of 13 or a singing chipmunk! I have always wanted to get around to restoring these fast tracks to their proper speed and pitch. I have begun with Mirror, Mirror since we have a finished released track for a guide.


Thank you very much for taking the time to do this... it is one of those things that always kinda bothers me. One of the problems I have with this era (in deciding whether to fix this or not) is her voice can sound quite different on various tracks (probably due to her voice changing significantly during the mid-80's)... sometimes even at the wrong speed, her voice will sound natural. But other times (like the Mirror Mirrors you posted), it is obvious the speed is unnaturally fast. Usually when I'm working on enhancing tracks, I don't mess with the speed unless I'm certain it's sped up (or too slow). There are a few cases when it's slightly sped-up where I wonder if it was intended to be that way... an example of a commercially released sped-up track is the Time-Life version of "Talk To Me". If you slow it down, you realize her voice is natural when it's in tune with the album version... however, the music is also significantly slower then, so I assume that's probably why they sped it up (to keep a faster tempo). Anyways... thanks again... much appreciated! :thumbsup:

[StevieNicksfann]

"Mirror, Mirror" 5 - B-Side version
http://www.mediafire.com/?bukgwkrjw59t3c7

Remember, although released in 1994 as the b-side to the US cassette single of "Blue Denim", this is a 1984 recording from Rock A Little, not re-recorded for Street Angel.

oh wow, I never knew this! Always assumed it was re-recorded like If You Were My Love and got kicked off the album again

[Stevieforever]

I never knew that either, I always thought her voice sounded more like mid-80s but always assumed that since it came out in 1994, it was re-recorded. So, what about "Thousand Days"? Was it re-recorded, or was it also a mid 80s vocal also that was released as a B-side like "Mirror Mirror"?

[mikebise]

Ginny Kamano sent out a letter in early 1993 stating that Stevie had newly re-recorded "Thousand Days" (which had preciously been recorded for Rock A Little in 1984) with production by Chris Lord-Alge. This was a new version done for Street Angel.

[mikebise]

Mirror, Mirror [Version #1]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2uun5elj3wc2ykl

There is no known complete copy of this version in circulation. In this outtake the music fades out midway through and then fades back in. For this pitch restored version I have spliced these two sections together so that the music never completely fades away and it sounds more like one take. For the pitch restoration I used the song "Rock A Little (Go Ahead Lily)" as my guide and that seemed a good match.

"You must know, Lily..."

This is awesome work, Randy!!!!!! I can finally understand Stevie now!!!!!!!!

Thanks for this! :woohoo:

[76sparky]

Heres a link to My RAL Live shows

http://www.mediafire.com/?ku1x006jpbju0

Theres about 45 shows in there

Posted this link in Demos as well.

OSOTM shows uploading as I type

[equeen102289]

Holy crap I am in rock a little heaven. Thank you so much for all of these!!

[mikebise]

Yes, thanks for these RAL concerts!!!

I had the 08/05/1986 MSG show on cassette, but haven't listened to it in about 12 years or more. That "Rhiannon"!!!!!!

"There IS a Legend!"

"Well, she's taken by surprise!"

And WHY is everyone screaming like crazy near the end???!!! I wish there was video!!!!

LOVING these shows! Thanks, Sparky!!!!!

[PenguinHead]

"Mirror, Mirror" 5 - B-Side version
http://www.mediafire.com/?bukgwkrjw59t3c7

Remember, although released in 1994 as the b-side to the US cassette single of "Blue Denim", this is a 1984 recording from Rock A Little, not re-recorded for Street Angel.

I have that cassette! I believe that Mirror Mirror is one of Stevie's most obscure song in her catalog of official releases. It should have been included on the third disc of her Enchanted box set! Was it ever included on a foreign CD single? Otherwise, all we have is a cassette version!

It's strange, considering that it was to be the title track of her album that became Rock a Little. I would love to hear her Street Angel version. It's too bad it wasn't released as a b-side on Blue Denim or Maybe Love. So now it lays dormant in a studio vault, along with Call You Missing, along with dozens of others.

Hopefully, eventually, when Stevie stops producing music, someone will mill the remants, and squeeze several albums (0r a box set) and her unreleased work, along with various alternate/demo versions of released songs, as well as a bunch of complete live concert CDs from every era of her career.

[mikebise]

That 1984 "Mirror, Mirror" is only officially released on the US Cassette Single of "Blue Denim" from July 1994. So, since "Real Tears" was available in several formats (CD-Single, vinyl, cassette) in several countries, that makes "Mirror, Mirror" Stevie's most obscure b-side, most definitely.

The original track listing for Enchanted had "Real Tears" and "I Pretend" on it. But "Real Tears" got replaced on Disc 2 by "Kind Of Woman" and "I Pretend" was dropped from Disc 3 by "It's Late". :shrug:

[jeffd8382]

:wavey:
With thanks to Randy for bringing up the topic of speed issues on various demos/outtakes, I went back to the "Tied Up (In Promises)" demo I worked on enhancing awhile back. I was sure it was slightly sped-up, so I slowed it down a little. Something about the equalization I did always bugged me. Lately, I have been toying with a new technique for equalizing poorer quality sources: I look at the frequency spectrum of the file and try to make some equalization adjustments based on that... you can visually see things that need to be adjusted which my ears would never be able to discern on their own. I think the sound is much improved from before... and it's nice to have it sounding more natural due to what I am hoping is the "correct" speed.

"Tied Up" (1st demo version) (original = mp3/lossy?) - enhanced 2.0 & speed-adjusted
http://www.mediafire.com/?l1p20226oo526iz

& for anyone who wants the improved equalization at the unaffected speed:
"Tied Up" (1st demo version) - enhanced 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/?5p3al1w9elok6lz

Randy, please feel free to check the speed on this and see what you think!

Hope everyone likes it and finds it an improvement over what we had before! :woohoo:

[mikebise]

Just awesome, Jeff!!!!

Even if the winner of the eBay Motherload never shares his versions of "Tied Up", at least we have this great one!

[mikebise]

I re-uploaded this copy of "She Still Loves Him" from one of Maureen's Mystery Box CDs, and I think it sounds even better than when I found it last year in April 2010. Is it just from losslessness? There's even less hiss at the intro (to my ears).

"She Still Loves Him" Take 1
http://www.mediafire.com/?wxhdbi3sidq5h4t

I think it's spectacular!

Below is not as good, but a great performance by Stevie:

"She Still Loves Him" Take 2
http://www.mediafire.com/?wlua8rv1c9zmkdf

[mikebise]

"The Shirrell Sisters thank you very much! Ha ha HA!"

"Chanel, Chanel" Take 3
http://www.mediafire.com/?zfnbyznqx44tug4

[jeffd8382]

Even if the winner of the eBay Motherload never shares his versions of "Tied Up", at least we have this great one!

Yeah, the ones on those tapes that person won couldn't possibly be better than this is now! :p Oh please prove me wrong, whoever you are out there!! :D
:]

I re-uploaded this copy of "She Still Loves Him" from one of Maureen's Mystery Box CDs, and I think it sounds even better than when I found it last year in April 2010. Is it just from losslessness? There's even less hiss at the intro (to my ears).

Thanks Mike, as always, for sharing these gems!!!!

The sound is definitely clearer on this version than the source from last year.... only trouble is this source has heavy noise reduction at the beginning & ends. When enhancing, I mixed in the intro/outro (my fav. Swedish word...why don't we adopt this??) from the earlier version so we can hear a bit of what was lost in the noise reduction... of course this adds a little noise too, but I think it works.

"She Still Loves Him" (take 1, source 2 - Maureen's Mystery Box) - enhanced
http://www.mediafire.com/?hk9728fhrdh4rs4

For anyone who has missed it, here's the first enhanced version from the older source:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ucityix23ic8d9o

For anyone interested.. here are my nerdy notes to Mike on what I did with it/issues I encountered:

The first thing I noticed when I looked at the spectrum is a huge spike around 15.6kHz... from reading about this, it appears to be caused by television/comp. monitor interference. I guess when a television is near a recording source, the recorder will pick up interference from that TV/monitor. This has even happened in recording studios, where they sometimes have monitors in the studio whose interference actually gets recorded into the tracks when they're made. Good engineers should have been able to prevent this, but years ago I guess it wasn't as well known of an issue and some people can't even hear the high-pitch whine. One example that has always bugged me: Celine Dion's song "A New Day Has Come". In certain sections on the radio/shorter album version, there is this annoying whine... kicks in when she starts singing "A new day..." towards the beginning, right after the echoey snare drums.

Interesting notes of difference between the sources: the speed was ever so slightly slower in this one; the left/right channels were switched; the signal was inverted (if you open a file in a wave-editing program, and zoom in anywhere to see the wavey lines up-close... they were inverted so that when the lines would go up in each L & R side, they went down in the other file & vice-versa)... if that makes sense. There was also a buzzing/clicking noise heard mostly on the left channel in the new file. I tried fading different and using more noise reduction, but I don't think it worked too well. So the solution I used was to mix in the beginnings and fade-outs of the first enhanced version (after adjusting speed, switching the L&R channels & inverting the signal so they matched this version). You still hear a little clicking sound throughout the file, but there's really no way I know how to get rid of it without ruining the sound.

[mikebise]

"Imperial Hotel" - Instrumental With Backing Vocals
Source: Rock A Little Master Reel 08/19/1985

http://www.mediafire.com/?iqng3hbo1c2kv9n

[randydesertrat]

As you all are no doubt aware, most of the Rock A Little outtakes and demos speeds are quite fast due to multiple copying and sharing via cassette format back in the day. At times Stevie sounds like a girl of 13 or a singing chipmunk! I have always wanted to get around to restoring these fast tracks to their proper speed and pitch. I have begun with Mirror, Mirror since we have a finished released track for a guide.

There are seven known tracks of Mirror, Mirror out there; the released track plus six outtakes. I am posting the outtakes here in WAV format. They have been restored to proper pitch and speed and have been optimized in volume to Odb. The audio quality of the tracks varies but is mostly good.

Of the six outtakes there are two different versions of the song. The first version is the "rock version" with the steady beat, different melody and lyrics. The second version is the one with the same backing track as the released version with five different vocal takes by Stevie.

Mirror, Mirror [Version #1]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2uun5elj3wc2ykl

There is no known complete copy of this version in circulation. In this outtake the music fades out midway through and then fades back in. For this pitch restored version I have spliced these two sections together so that the music never completely fades away and it sounds more like one take. For the pitch restoration I used the song "Rock A Little (Go Ahead Lily)" as my guide and that seemed a good match.


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #1]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?hnbcwwg28v1csrn

The melodies vary greatly in the five takes of this second version. They are primarily identified by Stevie's last line in each take. In this first take the last line is "In spite of what you say, well I really wanted you".


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #2]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?8fbw2i11bc8avww

In this second take Stevie's last line is "Now this will leave you haunted, I really wanted you!"


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #3]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mhb4h31zczgkbby

In this third take Stevie's last line is "Well ask your mirror, well I really wanted you...."


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #4]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ulgadkl9gwobwr7

In this fourth take Stevie's last line is "This will leave you haunted in your mirror".


Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #5]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?e8pls894e28jyjc

This fifth take includes most of Stevie's final vocal with a few different lines that were later re-recorded. In this take Stevie does not sing the bridge or the last chorus. The vocal ends at the instrumental section and the song remains instrumental from there to the end. The ending on this take fades out instead of finishing cold like the others do.

Enjoy everybody! Hopefully I'll get to restoring more of the Rock A Little fast tracks soon.

JUST A HEADS UP EVERYONE. I RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING E-MAIL THIS MORNING. ONE OF THE MIRROR, MIRROR FILES WAS SUSPENDED DUE TO A DMCA CLAIM BY SOMEONE IN FRANCE CLAIMING TO BE AUTHORIZED TO ACT ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER OF THE COPYRIGHT. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHO THIS PERSON IS? HERE IS THE TEXT:

The file "Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #4].wav" has been suspended

Dear MediaFire User:

MediaFire has received notification under the provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") that your usage of a file is allegedly infringing on the file creator's copyright protection.

The file named Mirror, Mirror [Version #2, Vocal #4].wav is identified by the key (ulgadkl9gwobwr7).

As a result of this notice, pursuant to Section 512(c)(1)(C) of the DMCA, we have suspended access to the file.

The reason for suspension was:
BDM user "samantha" says: Hello, My Name is Hervé Lemaire , CEO of LeakID, I am legal representative of LEAKID clients which does business under the name leakid client, Authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed. You are hereby given notice valid under the DMCA copyright infringement notification requirements, 17 U.S.C.512. I am the designated agent of the owner of the copyrights of the images and audio/visual works listed below. I believe that the images and audio/visual works listed at the times cited below are being copied and distributed in a manner that has been not authorized by the owner of the copyrights, its agent or the law. All link below containing pirated versions of LEAKID clients copyrighted works. The information in the notice is accurate, under penalty of perjury. Please remove all linksAs soon as possible, we will check them everyday. Thanks to inform us ab out your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal. Very truly yours, Hervé Lemaire Leakid 15 bis rue de chateaudun 92250 La garenne colombes France 0033698211000 OFFICE 2010

Information about the party that filed the report:

Company Name: LeakID
Contact Address: 15 bis rue de chateaudun, 02250 La garenne colombes, France
Contact Name: Hervé Lemaire
Contact Phone:
Contact Email: [email protected]

[holidayroad]

^ I had a similar situation happen with one of the Secret Love demos I had uploaded at Mediafire.

"The file "Stevie Nicks - Secret Love - Old Demo 1980.mp3" has been suspended


Dear MediaFire User:


MediaFire has received notification under the provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") that your usage of a file is allegedly infringing on the file creator's copyright protection.

The file named Stevie Nicks - Secret Love - Old Demo 1980.mp3 is identified by the key (gr7sto1lgjuhrho).

As a result of this notice, pursuant to Section 512(c)(1)(C) of the DMCA, we have suspended access to the file.

The reason for suspension was:

Under penalty of perjury, we submit that we are authorized to act on behalf of the IFPI Represented Companies in matters involving the infringement of their sound recordings, including enforcing their copyrights and common law rights on the Internet.

Information about the party that filed the report:

Company Name: IFPI
Contact Address: 10 Piccadilly London W1J 0DD United Kingdom
Contact Name:
Contact Phone:
Contact Email: [email protected] "

[UndoingTheLaces]

Yeah but are those legitimate companies that complained or bootleggers that were mad you were posting stuff they were selling.

[holidayroad]

Yeah but are those legitimate companies that complained or bootleggers that were mad you were posting stuff they were selling.

I really don't know. I wasn't storing at Mediafire to share. I had it there for backup in case my computer stopped working.

[steffmad]

WOW, i never thought that there are so many Demos and Versions, wow :cool:
Thx for all the uploads from all that kind members, what an amzing first day for my Holidays.

[BrownEyedGirl26]

WOW, i never thought that there are so many Demos and Versions, wow :cool:
Thx for all the uploads from all that kind members, what an amzing first day for my Holidays.

Welcome to the Ledge, I hope you'll like it here!

[baboles]

Does anyone have a these for download?
http://youtu.be/Qbw1ZOiJynE
http://youtu.be/Rd5FsRA1UIw

[holidayroad]

Does anyone have a these for download?
http://youtu.be/Qbw1ZOiJynE
http://youtu.be/Rd5FsRA1UIw


Something Exquisite http://www.mediafire.com/?pg293372c27u8rf
Running Through the Garden RAL http://www.mediafire.com/?xyj4dr01d4k59mc

[baboles]

Something Exquisite http://www.mediafire.com/?pg293372c27u8rf
Running Through the Garden RAL http://www.mediafire.com/?xyj4dr01d4k59mc

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

[Spikey]

Thanks holidayroad- never heard that version before!

Is there a better quality version of RTTG out there? This one's so lossy..

[lena_pink]

Mirror, Mirror [Version #1]:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2uun5elj3wc2ykl

There is no known complete copy of this version in circulation. In this outtake the music fades out midway through and then fades back in. For this pitch restored version I have spliced these two sections together so that the music never completely fades away and it sounds more like one take. For the pitch restoration I used the song "Rock A Little (Go Ahead Lily)" as my guide and that seemed a good match.

Would anybody mind re-uploading this one, please? This is my favourite version of "Mirror, Mirror", and since this is apparently the only copy in circulation I'd love to hear an enhanced version. Thanks in advance :)