Enchanted Vault: "A" Songs [Archive]

ontheEdgeof17

03-31-2011, 11:12 AM

Hey all!

I'm trying, with the help of you, to have somewhat of a "complete" list of Stevie songs in various forms for us to have online. There were a few great sites back in the day and I want to upgrade the list for us to have as a resource for our Stevie collection. What I would like to do is go by song title...beginning with A and getting each on sorted out before we move on.

Good idea/bad idea?

http://enchantedvault.yolasite.com/

GypsyNikita

03-31-2011, 11:18 AM

markolas

03-31-2011, 11:40 AM

It's an excellent idea, of course.

What do you want us to do? Just list the "A" songs that we have? Those Sara Rhiannon screen caps are a good place to start, but there's a lot of repetition and it's confusing. If we could pare that down, it would be great.

Artemis

03-31-2011, 11:42 AM

Loving this idea. Although, I wonder, if it would be at all possible to make seperate sections for each different letter on that website? A-L just blew my mind. :laugh: tooooo many songs, Stevie!

ontheEdgeof17

03-31-2011, 11:42 AM

Yeah. Would be easier just to go letter by letter. The one thing SaraRhianna didn't have is the length of the track. I've been plugging in the track times with what I have.

A songs...so far....please add the A songs I have missed.

Affairs of the Heart

-Behind The Mask Version (4:22)

After The Glitter Fades

-Bella Donna Version (3:22)

Alice

-The Other Side Of The Mirror
Version (5:47)

All Over You

All The Beautiful Worlds

All The King's Horses

All These Years

Amber

Angel

-Tusk Version (4:55)

Annabel Lee

-In Your Dreams Version ()
-TISL outtake (5:11)

Anybody Out There?

-"Early" Demo (3:31)

The Apartment Song

-Playback (Tom Petty) (2:37)

Are You Mine?

At Last

-Stormy Weather Benefit (4:08)

At The Fair

markolas

03-31-2011, 11:48 AM

After the Glitter Fades
- alternate (3:28)
- guitar demo (2:10)
- piano demo (3:56)

All the King's Horses
- demo (5:01)
- drum machine demo (8:02)

Are You Mine?
- solo demo (3:04)
- demo w/ Billy Burnette (3:22)

Those are all the ones I've got (I think).

tbaker3

03-31-2011, 11:53 AM

Such a great idea, I LOVED Sararhiannon.com. I still mourn that site. And if only nicksfix gave me my fix for nicks.... what a waste.

ontheEdgeof17

03-31-2011, 11:54 AM

After the Glitter Fades
- alternate (3:28)
- guitar demo (2:10)
- piano demo (3:56)

I have these, too

artsy demo.....says "everything is so artsy" at the end (3:50) same as your piano demo?

alternate mix (Girls oohh'ing) (3:40)

ontheEdgeof17

03-31-2011, 11:56 AM

Are You Mine?
- solo demo (3:04)
- demo w/ Billy Burnette (3:22)

I only have these 2, as well. SR listed 3....but I thought the interview and solo demo were the same? Am I wrong?

markolas

03-31-2011, 12:01 PM

I have these, too

artsy demo.....says "everything is so artsy" at the end (3:50) same as your piano demo?

alternate mix (Girls oohh'ing) (3:40)

Yeah, those are both the same as what I have.

ontheEdgeof17

03-31-2011, 12:04 PM

These songs have only one version in circulation (that I know of)

All Over You (4:58)

Amber (2:22)

All These Years (2:52)

Anybody Out There (3:31) (love this song!!!)

markolas

03-31-2011, 12:05 PM

I only have these 2, as well. SR listed 3....but I thought the interview and solo demo were the same? Am I wrong?

The solo demo I have has Stevie starting to sing, some guy (Jimmy Iovine?) says "uh-uh" and she starts again. Definitely no interview.

I just listened, and the demo I have listed as w/ Billy Burnette starts with an interview, tho.

KarmaContestant

03-31-2011, 12:06 PM

I'm at work, or I'd totally be helping out. :woohoo:

ontheEdgeof17

03-31-2011, 12:06 PM

The solo demo I have has Stevie starting to sing, some guy (Jimmy Iovine?) says "uh-uh" and she starts again. Definitely no interview.

I just listened, and the demo I have listed as w/ Billy Burnette starts with an interview, tho.

Yeah...the duet one is the interview one...just listened to it, as well.

I love this....just listened to All These Years....and haven't in ages.....great lil tune

ontheEdgeof17

03-31-2011, 12:14 PM

All The Beautiful Worlds

Outtake #1 (5:32)
Outtake #2 (5:42) better quality

KarmaContestant

03-31-2011, 12:16 PM

I only have these 2, as well. SR listed 3....but I thought the interview and solo demo were the same? Am I wrong?

For some reason, I think there might be three. The Billy Burnette one, the solo one with Jimmy saying 'uh-uh-uh' in the beginning, and then maybe another one without Jimmy speaking - but that might just be an edit of the same track.

KarmaContestant

03-31-2011, 12:18 PM

All The Beautiful Worlds

Outtake #1 (5:32)
Outtake #2 (5:42) better quality

They are the same track, at different speeds. Should both be listed?

ontheEdgeof17

03-31-2011, 12:21 PM

They are the same track, at different speeds. Should both be listed?

I don't think. If there is no variation but speed.

ontheEdgeof17

03-31-2011, 12:22 PM

At The Fair (3:04) just has one demo in circulation. Correct?

KarmaContestant

03-31-2011, 12:23 PM

I don't think. If there is no variation but speed.

I'm sure of it. It can be hard to tell sometimes with all the cassette copies that circulated for two decades.

Only one At The Fair.

ontheEdgeof17

03-31-2011, 12:30 PM

Any Alice outtakes? I don't have any.

KarmaContestant

03-31-2011, 12:32 PM

Any Alice outtakes? I don't have any.

Only master reel cuts - wait, I might be confusing it with Juliet.

There was a version that was listed as an outtake and circulated, but was really just a crappy recording of the album version slowed down and sped up and passed off as an alternate.

APerfectLie

03-31-2011, 02:11 PM

ontheEdgeof17

03-31-2011, 02:19 PM

So is this just going to be a list, or will mp3's also be linked with each version?

Just a list, for now....

.....then we can link them.

The Stevie demo world seems like a mess right now. I just want to make it nice and tidy.

APerfectLie

03-31-2011, 02:29 PM

Just a list, for now....

.....then we can link them.

The Stevie demo world seems like a mess right now. I just want to make it nice and tidy.

Agreed! About two months ago I decided I wanted to make a digital vault of Stevie demos and live performances, so i snagged up theothersideofthemirror.com but have yet to even begin!

DarkUponLight

03-31-2011, 02:42 PM

I'm not sure what you guys are doing, but I used to have my own Stevie site back in the day called Bella Diva. It's still out there in cyberspace, but I closed the front access page YEARS ago cuz I no longer had time to keep up with it. I can post links to the individual frames so you can access demo lyrics if that's what you're needing. It was Sara Maitland aka SaraRhiannon.com who helped me do all the lyric pages on my page to begin with, so most all of what you see in the demo section is the same thing you used to see on her page before it was closed down. I must warn you though... it's SERIOUSLY out of date...

http://rockgypsy.tripod.com

http://rockgypsy.tripod.com/frames.html

http://rockgypsy.tripod.com/noframes.html

You should be able to access all the areas of the site from one of those links. Enjoy! ;)

NOTE: When you're on the demo pages, you can't click the song names to see the lyrics because the old html links are broken & need re-written, so just scroll down the page to find the song you're looking for...

ontheEdgeof17

03-31-2011, 02:49 PM

I need help with ATGF and Angel. When I moved to NYC....I put all my demos in my parent's attic and just put one version of each in my itunes...:distress:

markolas

03-31-2011, 03:16 PM

I need help with ATGF and Angel. When I moved to NYC....I put all my demos in my parent's attic and just put one version of each in my itunes...:distress:

What do you need help w/ in regard to ATFG? I only have the studio version of Angel.

gldstwmn

03-31-2011, 03:25 PM

Thanks for doing this. I have the discs but not the archives. Also if memory serves The Penguin discographies may be of some help to you here.

gldstwmn

03-31-2011, 03:27 PM

I only have these 2, as well. SR listed 3....but I thought the interview and solo demo were the same? Am I wrong?

Nope. The third is from a Jim Ladd interview at 4 in the morning and I'll post in when I can.

StevieNicksfann

03-31-2011, 03:45 PM

Yes thank you for doing this. I'll help with what I can. For me, it's so hard to discern what is different, if anything, between 5 million takes of a particular song. So ideally, I would love to see, for example, Annabel Lee - Take 1 - time - and then a few words - like more rock version than take 25 or something along those lines. Right now, I seem to download some things that are labeled differently but are really the same track and now I can't tell which song is what sometimes. i.e. Talk To Me alternative version being the same as mastermix version as the same as the version on the 1985 It's Rock N Roll hits version, etc...

KarmaContestant

03-31-2011, 05:34 PM

I need help with ATGF and Angel. When I moved to NYC....I put all my demos in my parent's attic and just put one version of each in my itunes...:distress:

I only have one version of Angel that's not from a reel. Angel - Tusk Outtake/Alternate w/longer ending, with a running time of 5:02. It might be on a reel as well.

After The Glitter Fades.. There's the Uncirculated Rumours demo with the country twang at 2:19, the one labeled as 'artsy' at 3:53. A piano demo at 3:52 (same as 'artsy' demo) All three are on master reels. Master Reel Demo Compilation Dated 1/8/1980 and Gems 7 ½ ips ½ Track ¼ Inch Reel. Also the BN demos at 2:17; there are two of them both labeled with Vocals, Drum, Slide Guitar & Bass.

There are numerous master takes and mixes of ATGF as well.

Here's a screenshot of mine:

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2974/atgf.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/atgf.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

mikebise

03-31-2011, 05:44 PM

"Angel" definitely has an outtake. Same lead vocals until after "No great pretender...", then it's different vocals for a bit, until "I still look up...". The mix is also very different.

There are many outtake vocals of "After The Glitter Fades". This will take some time. Some of those "Take 5", etc., are the exact as the album, but some are true outtakes.

"All The King's Horses" has two from 1980, as well as a Rock A Little era version.

mikebise

03-31-2011, 05:59 PM

Affairs Of The Heart
-The Other Side Of The Mirror demo 5:02
-Behind The Mask alternate mix with extra vocals 4:55

After The Glitter Fades
-Early demo 2:17

All The King's Horses
-1980 demo 5:27
-1980 demo 7:25
-Rock A Little demo 8:09

Angel
-Tusk outtake vocal/alternate mix 5:00

Dark Angel

03-31-2011, 06:33 PM

I saw the Demo Diaries from Sara's site posted earlier. I also have one from Shel's trading site, (welshwitch.net), if you want it.

starshine

03-31-2011, 06:39 PM

Such a great idea, I LOVED Sararhiannon.com. I still mourn that site. And if only nicksfix gave me my fix for nicks.... what a waste.I am in so agreement with you. I love that web site too. I always went there for info on Stevie than I ever did to the Nixsfix. I loved the lyrics pages and the photos and the album pages for Stevie solo and FMac. I did miss some to print though which still bums me out. I was so saddened when it went away. Buckingham/Nicks is a good site too with lyrics of released and unreleased material too. Anyway, just wanted to say that I agree with you about the sararhiannon site. I'd still go to it today if it was up and running. :shrug::distress:

mikebise

03-31-2011, 07:16 PM

A few thoughts ~

Since we're trying to make this an unofficial official resource, can we do away with the multiple fan~madeup titles, like freakin' "Mistress Of My Fate"? Stevie copyrighted "The Dealer" several times between 1979 and 1981, and there is not one single "Mistress Of My Fate" in there, or listed on any of the Masters. It's "The Dealer".

Do away with poor descriptions like "Wall Of Sound Demo" for "Thrown Down". It is a fully~produced outtake from Trouble In Shangri~la, included on the rare 16~track version. Same with "Blues Demo" for "Beauty And The Beast" ~ all of Fleetwood Mac is there on this recording, which is included on the same Master with the completed versions of Stevie's 5 songs on Tusk. It's an outtake from Tusk or a Tusk~era full~band studio recording.

If a song has a title, do away with old guessed~at titles. Make it:
Goodbye Baby
~Piano demo
~Rumours demo
~TISL demo #1
~TISL demo #2
~ Trouble In Shangri~la album version
~ Trouble In Shangri~la extended album version

... and so forth, and not dragging "The Tower" into this. Same with "Goodbye Baby".

"Lady From The Mountains" has an "S" at the end! :)

mikebise

03-31-2011, 07:19 PM

"The Maker Of Birds" is the copyrighted title, not "Three Birds Of Rhiannon".

"Forsaken Love" is the multiple~copyrighted title, not "Mistaken Love".

ontheEdgeof17

04-01-2011, 09:51 AM

A few thoughts ~

Since we're trying to make this an unofficial official resource, can we do away with the multiple fan~madeup titles

That's my goal! There will be no 'Tower" or "No Light"...

"Lady From The Mountains" has an "S" at the end! :)

Thanks. I'm still changing titles around and such.

The A list looks good...sans ATGF....

ontheEdgeof17

04-01-2011, 09:53 AM

Nope. The third is from a Jim Ladd interview at 4 in the morning and I'll post in when I can.

Thanks! :wavey:

markolas

04-01-2011, 10:21 AM

I agree w/ Mike (more or less) about the guessed-at/made-up titles. Also, there should be more of a distinction between demo, outtake, etc. The Tusk version of BATB is not a "demo," and neither is Smile at You, ATBW, or the completed Shangri-La version of Thrown Down.

markolas

04-01-2011, 10:22 AM

The A list looks good...sans ATGF....

What exactly is the issue with ATGF?

ontheEdgeof17

04-01-2011, 10:23 AM

What exactly is the issue with ATGF?

Just have to listen to the reels to see if some stuff overlaps.

gldstwmn

04-01-2011, 11:00 AM

Are You Mine from the Jim Ladd show:

http://www.mediafire.com/?lc11c9kxcg198dr

nickster

04-03-2011, 01:15 PM

I do not have any of the Buckigham Nicks Raw Demos nor the Master Reels...anyone that can/would be so kind as to upload those....p-p-please??? (Sense the desparation and begging? :nod:)

I only have one version of Angel that's not from a reel. Angel - Tusk Outtake/Alternate w/longer ending, with a running time of 5:02. It might be on a reel as well.

After The Glitter Fades.. There's the Uncirculated Rumours demo with the country twang at 2:19, the one labeled as 'artsy' at 3:53. A piano demo at 3:52 (same as 'artsy' demo) All three are on master reels. Master Reel Demo Compilation Dated 1/8/1980 and Gems 7 ½ ips ½ Track ¼ Inch Reel. Also the BN demos at 2:17; there are two of them both labeled with Vocals, Drum, Slide Guitar & Bass.

There are numerous master takes and mixes of ATGF as well.

Here's a screenshot of mine:

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2974/atgf.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/atgf.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

mikebise

04-03-2011, 01:34 PM

What the Hell does "artsy demo" mean?

JimSATX

04-04-2011, 11:56 AM

I swear I can remember seeing the title "Arabesque" on some old demo lists a long time ago, But I've never heard of anyone who's actually heard the song. Does anyone know if this actually exists? I only thought of it because I read somewhere that the old movie with Sophia Loren is coming out on DVD this week. If it's a real track, I'm guessing Stevie based it on this movie?