PDA

View Full Version : Ken Caillat Sues HarperCollins For Breach of Contract


vivfox
03-08-2011, 11:34 AM
Tuesday, March 08, 2011

Ken Caillat is best known in the music business as the man who produced Fleetwood Mac's 1977 album Rumours, one of the best-selling rock records of all time.
That credential in turn garnered him a $555,000 advance from HarperCollins' It Books imprint to write Starting Rumours, an oral history of the making of that record, which the publisher won at auction from Caillat's agent Peter McGuigan of Foundry Media. But last month, Caillat filed suit against the publisher in Ventura County Superior Court alleging that he was rightfully owed his entire advance, and that HarperCollins had breached their contract by not paying him for a manuscript they rejected, and did not sufficiently explain why they rejected it.

The original proposal promised Caillat would obtain new interviews with all the Fleetwood Mac members, as well as with associated studio executives, friends, lovers, roadies and other people who would have been involved with the making of 'Rumours.' As such the original contract draft language said the book would be "based on original interviews with band members."
According to the complaint, "after some doubt arose as to whether the Fleetwod Mac bandmembers would agree to new interviews for the book," the final contract was changed to allow for "some previously published interviews" with band members. Caillat received $138,750, or one-quarter of the total advance, after the contract was executed.

According to the complaint, the first signs of trouble emerged in January 2010, approximately one month before the full manuscript was due to It Books. Caillat submitted "a draft which was approximately one half of the planned manuscript," only for it to be rejected. Caillat reworked the manuscript and submitted a completed draft in May. That, too, was rejected, as It Books is said to have admitted the manuscript "was not even read before the rejection...[which] was based solely on the fact that there were no new interviews from the band, despite the fact that it was not required by the contract." What's more, It Books wanted Caillat to pay back the portion of the advance they had paid him.

Caillat, naturally, thought otherwise, and states HarperCollins violated the terms of their own contract, which said the company "shall give the author a detailed letter requesting specific changes and revisions" if the manuscript delivered was not acceptable. Instead, It Books "did not provide [Caillat] with a letter...as required by the contract, and provided no information as to desired revisions."

Caillat seeks to recover the full balance of the advance as well as $500,000 in punitive damages spurred by "having to incur attorney's fees to defend his rights" and to defend against HarperCollins' claim that he owed them the first quarter of the advance. A spokesperson for HarperCollins had not yet responded to requests for comment; Caillat's editor, Kate Hamill, is no longer with the company. -- S.W.

http://beattiesbookblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/fleetwood-mac-album-producer-sues.html

vivfox
03-08-2011, 11:35 AM
Well it looks like we won't be getting this book. Few promises ever pan out in the Fleetwood Mac Universe.

louielouie2000
03-08-2011, 11:42 AM
Over half a million for a book advance?! :shocked: I might have expected that figure for a key band member, but not a co-producer who was only involved in 3 of Fleetwood Mac's studio albums.

I figured there was trouble behind the scenes... we first heard about Ken writing this book quite some time ago now. I tend to agree with Viv... this book is almost certainly dead in the water now :distress:.

Dodfather
03-08-2011, 12:20 PM
I had wondered how things were progressing with this. Publishers are notorious for this kind of behaviour. Several authors have sued them for unexplained rejection of manuscripts and for issues reharding the advance. The most famous example is when Joan Collins sued Random House in I think the early 90s for exactly this - rejecting a manuscript and giving little or no explanation - and she won.

If It Books did seemingly admit that the menuscript wasn't read then Ken has a good case. There will be a lot of wrangling but it's oddly fitting for a book about Rumours! I'm hopeful that after all of this the book will be snapped up by another publisher. It's mostly written after all.

A friend of mine is having similar issues with a publisher regarding an academic book he's written, they stipulated certain arguments be made and they are querying them. He's having to gather a load of outside professional opinion to prove the validity of his content. It's ridiculous!

GypsySorcerer
03-08-2011, 12:43 PM
Well it looks like we won't be getting this book. Few promises ever pan out in the Fleetwood Mac Universe.

Pretty much. I'm still disappointed they canned the remastered albums.

HejiraNYC
03-08-2011, 02:21 PM
I think the first sign of trouble for me was when he came to the Ledge to ask for anonymous people's opinions about Rumours. My first reaction at the time was, "wow, he must be hard up for material." It is a shame and a bit of a surprise that he was not able to obtain any new interviews with the band. I thought they were all on good terms, especially when it came to Christine. But then again, do you think there would have been any shocking new revelations? We've heard plenty about the drama and the drugs. And the really juicy tidbits will either remain a secret eternally or will end up in someone else's autobiography ten years from now. And we saw/heard a good bit about the recording on the Classic Albums - Rumours DVD.

If I were Ken's editor, I would have probably asked him for his own biography, with an emphasis on the 1977 - 1979 era that transformed the musical landscape forever. I would have been fascinated to read about his responsibilities as a producer and the daily grind of working in the studio. Where did he draw inspiration? How did he know when a song was finished? How much money did he make? Did he bang Sweet Connie? Admittedly, such a book would not have warranted a half million-dollar advance, but it would have definitely appealed to a very select group of people.

Villavic
03-08-2011, 03:00 PM
Viv... this book is almost certainly dead in the water now :distress:.

I thought I'd feel dissapointed.. but actually I don't. More Rumours journals? More of the same? We alredy read detailed tales of the Rumours sessions thru Mick, Carol Ann, Brunning, VH1, etc...

I'd feel more expectation for a Tango book, a Mirage book, mentioned before on those books but not so detailed.

louielouie2000
03-08-2011, 03:53 PM
I thought I'd feel dissapointed.. but actually I don't. More Rumours journals? More of the same? We alredy read detailed tales of the Rumours sessions thru Mick, Carol Ann, Brunning, VH1, etc...

I'd feel more expectation for a Tango book, a Mirage book, mentioned before on those books but not so detailed.

You're definitely onto something there. I am betting far crazier stuff went down during the Tango period than Rumours could ever dream of. What began during the Rumours era came to a head by the time Tango rolled around, and then imploded dramatically. We already know some stuff, such as the physical fight between Lindsey and Stevie that lead to Lindsey's leaving the band... but I bet that's only the tip of the sordid iceberg.

markolas
03-08-2011, 04:39 PM
I remember when he came on here asking questions and thought it was kind of odd. I never paid much attention to it because the Rumours horse has been beaten to death several times now. What else is there to say about it that hasn't been said over & over again?

KarmaContestant
03-08-2011, 04:46 PM
Yeah.... I totally see the side of Harper Collins. A book of collective interviews from the past three decades doesn't exactly present anything new or interesting. Publishing that would have been a poor business decision on thier part.

If I were Ken, I'd put more effort into it and try again to fulfill the original intent.

chiliD
03-08-2011, 06:07 PM
...the Rumours horse has been beaten to death several times now.

Not just the horse, but all its offspring & clones, as well.

markolas
03-08-2011, 06:12 PM
Yeah.... I totally see the side of Harper Collins. A book of collective interviews from the past three decades doesn't exactly present anything new or interesting. Publishing that would have been a poor business decision on thier part.

If I were Ken, I'd put more effort into it and try again to fulfill the original intent.

Well, but if they felt that way, they shouldn't have locked themselves into a contract to begin with. You can't sign a contract and then decide you just don't think it's a good idea anymore.

markolas
03-08-2011, 06:19 PM
Not just the horse, but all its offspring & clones, as well.

Bleh. I'm just sick of it. Let's have the Mirage & Tango remasters, pls. Also, I would love for someone to explain this to me. A couple of years ago, two of Laura Nyro's most obscure albums were finally put on CD after 25-30 years. Now, first of all, most people have probably never even heard of Laura Nyro, so the market for these discs was very small, and I doubt much money at all was made. Yet somebody saw fit to release them.

Mirage & Tango were both #1 albums. Surely the market for them is many, many times the market for those LN albums (which hardly anybody bought to begin with, and that is not a knock against those works at all - I love them). So I don't get the "Oh, they just wouldn't sell" excuse. Is it simply that they wouldn't make as much money as WB (or whoever) would like, not that they wouldn't turn a profit?

MacShadowsBall
03-08-2011, 07:13 PM
I would be interested in this book, but if its more about the gossip of Lindsey and Stevie and not about the actual music, then I probably wouldn't be that interested. :sorry:

Now some material/book etc about Christine and John's ups and downs and eventual divorce would be something different. :nod:

jbrownsjr
03-08-2011, 09:45 PM
Not just the horse, but all its offspring & clones, as well.

I would love to read about how Stevie and Lindsey were breaking up during that period, and how John and Christine were getting divorced. And how Mick was getting divorced too. Also, I would like to read how those situations informed the music organically. And finally, how the album shot to number 1 for 40 weeks and how everyone expected a Rumours II but they did Tusk anyway in Linsdey's bathroom.

aleuzzi
03-11-2011, 12:16 AM
I would love to read about how Stevie and Lindsey were breaking up during that period, and how John and Christine were getting divorced. And how Mick was getting divorced too. Also, I would like to read how those situations informed the music organically. And finally, how the album shot to number 1 for 40 weeks and how everyone expected a Rumours II but they did Tusk anyway in Linsdey's bathroom.

I never knew any of this. I wonder if the songs reflect the breakups.

jbrownsjr
03-11-2011, 08:15 AM
I never knew any of this. I wonder if the songs reflect the breakups.

We should research this Aleuzzi!:lol:

Dodfather
03-11-2011, 08:18 AM
I'd feel more expectation for a Tango book, a Mirage book, mentioned before on those books but not so detailed.

You're definitely onto something there. I am betting far crazier stuff went down during the Tango period than Rumours could ever dream of. What began during the Rumours era came to a head by the time Tango rolled around, and then imploded dramatically. We already know some stuff, such as the physical fight between Lindsey and Stevie that lead to Lindsey's leaving the band... but I bet that's only the tip of the sordid iceberg.

Agree with both of you - this book is what we're waiting for and would fill in a lot of the blanks and perhaps help "define" FM outwith Rumours for once.

Gailh
03-11-2011, 02:45 PM
It is a shame and a bit of a surprise that he was not able to obtain any new interviews with the band. I thought they were all on good terms, especially when it came to Christine.

I thought he and Christine had a bit of a tiff after In The Meantime? Apparently he didn't like the final mix.

She didn't return his call about his book is what I read

Gail

mezzoforte
03-11-2011, 03:32 PM
I thought he and Christine had a bit of a tiff after In The Meantime? Apparently he didn't like the final mix.

She didn't return his call about his book is what I read

Gail

Yup. I'm too lazy to look up the thread, but he sounded pretty negative about Christine and especially the time they spent working on In the Meantime. There was definitely an implication about her drinking--something about getting sloshed and screaming, "I'm not too old to tour; just too rich!" I was pretty surprised he shared that...
He mentioned the huge egos of Chris, Stevie and Lindsey and siad he doesn't really talk them.
Still adored Mick and John though--I wonder if they gave him interviews? The article sounds like he couldn't get any new ones.

louielouie2000
03-11-2011, 05:06 PM
Yup. I'm too lazy to look up the thread, but he sounded pretty negative about Christine and especially the time they spent working on In the Meantime. There was definitely an implication about her drinking--something about getting sloshed and screaming, "I'm not too old to tour; just too rich!" I was pretty surprised he shared that...
He mentioned the huge egos of Chris, Stevie and Lindsey and siad he doesn't really talk them.
Still adored Mick and John though--I wonder if they gave him interviews? The article sounds like he couldn't get any new ones.

Wow... that's pretty shocking. I can't imagine Chris acting that way this day and age, she's always seemed so grounded. But I guess she has become quite cranky in her retirement. After all, there is the story about her abruptly ceasing the villagers access to the stream/river on her property, which had been used by the villagers for hundreds of years.

mezzoforte
03-11-2011, 05:48 PM
Wow... that's pretty shocking. I can't imagine Chris acting that way this day and age, she's always seemed so grounded. But I guess she has become quite cranky in her retirement. After all, there is the story about her abruptly ceasing the villagers access to the stream/river on her property, which had been used by the villagers for hundreds of years.

Okay, I went back and checked. I was a bit off about the drinking, but here it is in Ken's words:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=40663&highlight=caillat&page=7
You know, they were pretty good during rumours, pretty normal for musicians. I thought Chris and I were good when I first started Meantime, but she was stopping drinking and smoking and trying to get over the school teacher, and hiding out in Cantebury with her dogs, and I started feeling her eccentricity. I had to leave the room while her dogs ate, and her favorite quote was "I'm not too old to tour, just too rich!" Too bad...I have requested she be interviewed by me for the book, and I got no reply from her or her manager, not even a simple no thank you. I still love my memories of her and the band.

Gailh
03-12-2011, 03:33 AM
Wow... that's pretty shocking. I can't imagine Chris acting that way this day and age, she's always seemed so grounded. But I guess she has become quite cranky in her retirement. After all, there is the story about her abruptly ceasing the villagers access to the stream/river on her property, which had been used by the villagers for hundreds of years.

I don't think that was entirely her decision. Apparently she was part of a consortium that bought some land to stop it being developed. Then the consortium decided to fence it off which understandably caused some resentment in the village

Gail

HomerMcvie
03-12-2011, 03:45 AM
Okay, I went back and checked. I was a bit off about the drinking, but here it is in Ken's words:


Yeah, your drinking quote, just wasn't adding up, chronologically. I was like, WTF?

And I don't think the non-touring really has to do with money...she didn't need the money, 25 years ago(God, really....has it been THAT long......). She's just past that part of her life. Good for her(obviously I wish that weren't the case, but it is).

HomerMcvie
03-12-2011, 03:50 AM
I don't think that was entirely her decision. Apparently she was part of a consortium that bought some land to stop it being developed. Then the consortium decided to fence it off which understandably caused some resentment in the village

Gail

But god forbid that she should be like everyone else, with "not in my back yard". It's okay, for you and me, but if she does it, she's some hateful bi*ch. She was only doing what everyone else does, but because she's a star, she gets singled out. Which, of course, is bull****.:mad:

aleuzzi
03-12-2011, 12:54 PM
I remember Ken's comment. It was in response go a question I'd asked him about his bond with the band members. I thought he and Chris were close, since he worked on In the Meantime. But apparently, he was miffed about her eccentricities and her unresponsiveness to the book project.

In all honesty, I believe it is the latter that has upset him. He knew he was going to stand to make some big money based on that book and without the band's support, it would be a re-hash. What he probably feared has already happened: the advance was not fully forthcoming.

aleuzzi
03-12-2011, 12:56 PM
I don't think that was entirely her decision. Apparently she was part of a consortium that bought some land to stop it being developed. Then the consortium decided to fence it off which understandably caused some resentment in the village

Gail

I remember the article. It appears Christine was AGAINST the fence idea but had voted down by the group. The whole thing about the reality TV star and her at war was just a headline to sell the paper. The article itself undermines that.

HomerMcvie
03-12-2011, 01:12 PM
I remember the article. It appears Christine was AGAINST the fence idea but had voted down by the group. The whole thing about the reality TV star and her at war was just a headline to sell the paper. The article itself undermines that.

I still have a scan of that newspaper article somewhere (I'm not at home, and it's on my desktop PC). Yeah, that headline was only to sell more copies.

michelej1
03-12-2011, 02:07 PM
Here's the thread about the polytunnel debaucle.

Yes, they said Christine probably wishes she wasn't part of the consortium at all. They used her name and photo to get headlines really, well that Big Brother guy was trying to get headlines.

http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=43471&highlight=polytunnel

PenguinHead
03-14-2011, 10:04 PM
You're definitely onto something there. I am betting far crazier stuff went down during the Tango period than Rumours could ever dream of. What began during the Rumours era came to a head by the time Tango rolled around, and then imploded dramatically. We already know some stuff, such as the physical fight between Lindsey and Stevie that lead to Lindsey's leaving the band... but I bet that's only the tip of the sordid iceberg.

SORDID ICEBURG! If I ever form a formal band, that will a strong contender for a name. Great term!

I could care less about the Rumours book. I know enough already. Had the band members conceded to the interviews, does anyone here think they would provide us with anything revelatory? They would likely stay close to the script and talking points they have regurgitated for the last twenty-something years.

So much has been said, so many published stories about Rumours, another book would just perpetuate the redundancies. You are spot on (as usual!) about the untold drama that was Tango in the Night. We've gotten the generalities of what went down, but I suspect there are many entertaining unspoken words and stories about that messy saga.

markolas
03-15-2011, 10:16 AM
Wow... that's pretty shocking. I can't imagine Chris acting that way this day and age, she's always seemed so grounded. But I guess she has become quite cranky in her retirement.

I thought it was pretty damn funny. :laugh:

It does sound like KC is just pissed that she wouldn't agree to a new interview for his book.

Methinks CM just doesn't suffer fools and knows that she doesn't have to do a damn thing she doesn't want to do. To which I say - good for her!

jbrownsjr
03-15-2011, 10:57 AM
I thought it was pretty damn funny. :laugh:

It does sound like KC is just pissed that she wouldn't agree to a new interview for his book.

Methinks CM just doesn't suffer fools and knows that she doesn't have to do a damn thing she doesn't want to do. To which I say - good for her!

AMEN:woohoo:

Christopher
03-15-2011, 11:40 AM
You're definitely onto something there. I am betting far crazier stuff went down during the Tango period than Rumours could ever dream of. What began during the Rumours era came to a head by the time Tango rolled around, and then imploded dramatically. We already know some stuff, such as the physical fight between Lindsey and Stevie that lead to Lindsey's leaving the band... but I bet that's only the tip of the sordid iceberg.

This is what PISSED me off about Fleetwood Mac's so called Remastered Behind The Music series. They (VH1) just glossed, or better yet steam-rolled right through the Mirage to Tango In The Night era's. And specifically, TITN was FM's 2nd most successful album worldwide!?! And that album had major drama, though not incestuous, albeit equally toxic! With both Stevie and Mick coming off major drug benders, and Stevie showing up, or rather not showing up so tranquilized that tensions were at an all time high, especially since by then she had leveraged immense power in the band due to her big bad solo career. Major mind scratcher that they understated that whole decade in lieu of even more Rumours smorgasbord.

So yeah, I wasn't waiting for Ken's book with any enthusiasm whatsoever.
And the fact that he did not procure any new interviews from FM speaks volumes.:nod:

michelej1
03-15-2011, 01:19 PM
Since Ken showed up for, and spoke at, a recent award for Lindsey, I thought that Lindsey probably had given him an interview for his book. So, I'm a bit surprised about that.

Michele

MacShadowsBall
03-15-2011, 05:17 PM
So yeah, I wasn't waiting for Ken's book with any enthusiasm whatsoever.
And the fact that he did not procure any new interviews from FM speaks volumes.:nod:

Since Ken showed up for, and spoke at, a recent award for Lindsey, I thought that Lindsey probably had given him an interview for his book. So, I'm a bit surprised about that.

Is there some underlying tension between Ken Caillat and Fleetwood Mac or is just that they are tired of reciting the whole "Rumours" gossip/saga?

The Catdancer
03-16-2011, 05:46 AM
I thought it was pretty damn funny. :laugh:

It does sound like KC is just pissed that she wouldn't agree to a new interview for his book.

Methinks CM just doesn't suffer fools and knows that she doesn't have to do a damn thing she doesn't want to do. To which I say - good for her!

Exactly!!! I don't think any of the band members agreed to do new interviews for the book. Why would they? Everybody and their grandmother already knows what went on during that time. Why rehash it again???

I think her saying:"I'm not too old to tour, just too rich" is pretty damn funny too and typical British humor. She can (and will) do whatever she wants to and I say AMEN to that (too bad she doesn't want to tour though)!

Tango
03-16-2011, 08:28 AM
Exactly!!! I don't think any of the band members agreed to do new interviews for the book. Why would they? Everybody and their grandmother already knows what went on during that time. Why rehash it again???

I think her saying:"I'm not too old to tour, just too rich" is pretty damn funny too and typical British humor. She can (and will) do whatever she wants to and I say AMEN to that (too bad she doesn't want to tour though)!

There's another issue; that is, at least one member of the Rumours line up is planning to write her own book (or so she has stated) in the near future.

http://www.barrattschapel.org/images/museumpicts/journal.jpg

The Catdancer
03-16-2011, 05:02 PM
There's another issue; that is, at least one member of the Rumours line up is planning to write her own book (or so she has stated) in the near future.

http://www.barrattschapel.org/images/museumpicts/journal.jpg

Are you talking about Stevie? She said that numerous times....

louielouie2000
03-16-2011, 05:33 PM
Are you talking about Stevie? She said that numerous times....

We'll get that book the same week she premieres the Rhiannon and Goldfish & Ladybug movies ;)

Christopher
03-16-2011, 06:06 PM
We'll get that book the same week she premieres the Rhiannon and Goldfish & Ladybug movies ;)

Exactly! Stevie won't be writing any book until she is practically done recording & touring. Which I'd roughly say approx 5-7 years from now. Hopefully between now and then we get 1 more FM record & the final Stevie "Rhiannon" solo album.:xoxo: plus all the 80's Mac albums & Stevie solo albums expanded & remastered :laugh: Thats not asking for much...:o

MacShadowsBall
03-16-2011, 06:12 PM
Don't forget official DVD releases of the Tusk Documentary and the Mirage concert. :cool:

mezzoforte
04-04-2011, 10:05 PM
Just came across Ken's facebook page for Rumours: the Book.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rumours-the-book/200410753324400?sk=wall

He's posted the introduction and beginning of chapter 1. The excerpts are brief, but you can get a bit of a sense of it. He's also been answering fan questions if anyone has any. Probably all we'll get for a while--the publisher and release date are listed only as "soon."

MacShadowsBall
04-05-2011, 05:09 PM
So is the happening or not? I'm confused. :confused:

mezzoforte
04-05-2011, 05:14 PM
So is the happening or not? I'm confused. :confused:

I guess no one knows for sure, since he doesn't have a publisher. But since it's written and he's clearly still hoping to market it, my guess it that it will come out eventually (in some form).

CADreaming
04-05-2011, 05:46 PM
So, does anyone think the Mac is behind Ken's book not getting published yet?

MacShadowsBall
04-05-2011, 05:50 PM
Unless the book has some "new and hot" info, I don't see why FM would care. :shrug:

CADreaming
04-05-2011, 07:04 PM
Unless the book has some "new and hot" info, I don't see why FM would care. :shrug:

Yeah, that's what I mean - maybe Ken is spilling stuff they wouldn't want him to?

MacShadowsBall
04-05-2011, 07:22 PM
Dare we wonder what those things could be?!?!!? :laugh:

jbrownsjr
04-06-2011, 09:23 AM
So, does anyone think the Mac is behind Ken's book not getting published yet?

The women sure didn't like books being written.. :) good point CA..

kencaillat
04-06-2011, 09:03 PM
Hi everyone, I was saddened when I saw that my lawsuit with my publisher was mentioned here. I want you to all hear from me directly. There is no animosity between me and the band at all. I asked them politely if I could interview them for my book and they politely declined. This is their prerogative. The problem arose when my publisher decided what they bought was dirt on the band. That is not the book I'm writing. This is a loving journey with me and the band during the making of the album. You come with us and are a fly on the wall while you watch us make the album. It's really a journey, like "Almost Famous" - the journey of an innocents walking blindly into the experience of a lifetime (as my editor calls it)

CADreaming
04-06-2011, 09:05 PM
Hi everyone, I was saddened when I saw that my lawsuit with my publisher was mentioned here. I want you to all hear from me directly. There is no animosity between me and the band at all. I asked them politely if I could interview them for my book and they politely declined. This is their prerogative. The problem arose when my publisher decided what they bought was dirt on the band. That is not the book I'm writing. This is a loving journey with me and the band during the making of the album. You come with us and are a fly on the wall while you watch us make the album. It's really a journey, like "Almost Famous" - the journey of an innocents walking blindly into the experience of a lifetime (as my editor calls it)

Thanks for clarifying, Ken. I hope we get to read it soon. I loved what I read on the facebook page. Best of luck!

MacShadowsBall
04-06-2011, 09:11 PM
The problem arose when my publisher decided what they bought was dirt on the band. That is not the book I'm writing.

I'd much rather read a book about the journey and making of the album esp how the songs and music came together than a bunch a gossip.

I hope your book gets published before it gets forgotten about. :cool:

kencaillat
04-06-2011, 09:54 PM
Thanks, I'm dying to get this out, and I have posted samples on my FB pages. I'm looking forward to everyone's comments. Thank you!
Ken

HomerMcvie
04-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Hi everyone, I was saddened when I saw that my lawsuit with my publisher was mentioned here. I want you to all hear from me directly. There is no animosity between me and the band at all. I asked them politely if I could interview them for my book and they politely declined. This is their prerogative. The problem arose when my publisher decided what they bought was dirt on the band. That is not the book I'm writing. This is a loving journey with me and the band during the making of the album. You come with us and are a fly on the wall while you watch us make the album. It's really a journey, like "Almost Famous" - the journey of an innocents walking blindly into the experience of a lifetime (as my editor calls it)

Thanks so much for posting here, Ken. I knew there was no way that you were putting out a "dirt" book. I can't wait to purchase a copy. Please keep us updated here, or at least on FB.:woohoo:

mezzoforte
04-06-2011, 10:12 PM
Hi everyone, I was saddened when I saw that my lawsuit with my publisher was mentioned here. I want you to all hear from me directly. There is no animosity between me and the band at all. I asked them politely if I could interview them for my book and they politely declined. This is their prerogative. The problem arose when my publisher decided what they bought was dirt on the band. That is not the book I'm writing. This is a loving journey with me and the band during the making of the album. You come with us and are a fly on the wall while you watch us make the album. It's really a journey, like "Almost Famous" - the journey of an innocents walking blindly into the experience of a lifetime (as my editor calls it)

Thanks for keeping us posted, Ken. I hope things work out with a publisher soon--the excerpts look great, and there's a wonderful story to be told without any dirt needed.

Dodfather
04-07-2011, 02:52 AM
It's really a journey, like "Almost Famous" - the journey of an innocents walking blindly into the experience of a lifetime (as my editor calls it)

I love this comparison. Almost Famous is one of my favourite films ever and reading the introduction on facebook did put me in mid of it - a young guy walking into the middle of this incredibly fraught, crazy yet creative atmosphere.

I'd much rather read a book about the journey and making of the album esp how the songs and music came together than a bunch a gossip.



Hear hear! Not only have we already heard the gossip countless times from both official and unofficial sources, but that type of stuff is in danger of overshadowing the music on what is an incredible record. That's the stuff we need to hear about!

Thanks for taking the time to keep us updated here and on facebook Ken - we really appreciate it.

wetcamelfood
04-07-2011, 07:01 AM
Hi everyone, I was saddened when I saw that my lawsuit with my publisher was mentioned here. I want you to all hear from me directly. There is no animosity between me and the band at all. I asked them politely if I could interview them for my book and they politely declined. This is their prerogative. The problem arose when my publisher decided what they bought was dirt on the band. That is not the book I'm writing. This is a loving journey with me and the band during the making of the album. You come with us and are a fly on the wall while you watch us make the album. It's really a journey, like "Almost Famous" - the journey of an innocents walking blindly into the experience of a lifetime (as my editor calls it)

Glad to hear your vision of the book is like what I was hoping for Ken, I don't care about anybody's person staff, just the recording of the music is all I care about reading. Hope it includes a list who specifically played what on each track, that's my holy grail! :)

John

jbrownsjr
04-07-2011, 11:07 AM
Hi everyone, I was saddened when I saw that my lawsuit with my publisher was mentioned here. I want you to all hear from me directly. There is no animosity between me and the band at all. I asked them politely if I could interview them for my book and they politely declined. This is their prerogative. The problem arose when my publisher decided what they bought was dirt on the band. That is not the book I'm writing. This is a loving journey with me and the band during the making of the album. You come with us and are a fly on the wall while you watch us make the album. It's really a journey, like "Almost Famous" - the journey of an innocents walking blindly into the experience of a lifetime (as my editor calls it)

Ken I posted on your FB page. I honestly am over hearing what the band has to say about Rumours. In fact, the less of them the better. We've heard their takes on it. I want to read your story, and drop into that part of your life. The excerpts I read were very cool. Like being dropped into a time machine and getting a great colorful view of a setting I love to reminisce about. If there isn't some honest drama and comotion or dirt as they call it, well I'd think you were writing a PR story. Oh and thanks for posting a pic of Scooter.

MacShadowsBall
04-07-2011, 08:55 PM
Hope it includes a list who specifically played what on each track, that's my holy grail! :)

John

Oh that would be wonderful, esp knowing who contributed what to each of the songs even designing of the track listing. :nod:

wetcamelfood
04-08-2011, 08:21 AM
Oh that would be wonderful, esp knowing who contributed what to each of the songs even designing of the track listing. :nod:

I know, I'm overly picky :) but I thought it was a great thing on the DVD Audio that Ken listed literally all the instrument tracks but I just thought it would make a great thing better if it had the people listed next to each of those and who did each background vocal track etc. I mean, sure, you can listen to the voices with the naked ear but as we know from the remixes on the Rhino remaster, some were mixed so far down on the original mixes there'd be no way or knowing it was even there just by listeing and guessing/assuming, y'know?

I guess this is just the specific area of my fandom that gets my rocks off & would help us to make our discography listings as complete and accurate as possible is all. :)

John

kencaillat
04-08-2011, 06:49 PM
Well, John your wish will come true. I list who did what on each track, including the time on the song where each part happened and you can read about the day it happened and how it happened!

jbrownsjr
04-08-2011, 08:23 PM
Well, John your wish will come true. I list who did what on each track, including the time on the song where each part happened and you can read about the day it happened and how it happened!

When?? Is this due for release? What's going on with the hard copy?

wetcamelfood
04-09-2011, 05:52 AM
Well, John your wish will come true. I list who did what on each track, including the time on the song where each part happened and you can read about the day it happened and how it happened!

YES! Thrilled to hear this Ken, hopefully everything will get ironed out and we'll see it's release soon. :)

John

MacShadowsBall
04-09-2011, 02:55 PM
Well, John your wish will come true. I list who did what on each track, including the time on the song where each part happened and you can read about the day it happened and how it happened!

Are you working mostly from notes, from memory, or a combination?