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vivfox
02-04-2011, 01:57 PM
February 4, 1977
Today in music, Fleetwood Mac released their 11th studio album, Rumours. The Grammy-award-winning album contained singles “Go Your Own Way”, “Don’t Stop”, “Dreams”, and “You Make Loving Fun”.
Rumours is often considered Fleetwood Mac’s best release, and has been listed by many musicians as an inspirational album.
Recorded in Sausalito, keyboardist Christine McVie said of the Rumours recording sessions “The sessions were like a cocktail party every night—people everywhere”.
http://wdok.radio.com/2011/02/04/today-in-music-fleetwood-mac-release-rumours/
vivfox
02-04-2011, 01:59 PM
Happy 34th Birthday Rumours!!!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:This album changed my life for the better. The front cover has influenced my life more than you could ever imagine and the music within you is timeless, classic rock.
vivfox
02-04-2011, 02:04 PM
1.) Go Your Own Way- Fleetwood Mac
Duh. Of course Fleetwood Mac would be number one. Every God forsaken song is about their messed up incestuous familial unit. It's hard to pick just one song because there are like ten million songs of them where they're all whining and bitching about each other. Christine divorced John, Stevie left Lindsey, Stevie slept with Mick, Lindsey pouted a lot and made weird, retarded dance moves while playing the guitar. To every Stevie's "I'm going to refer to you as a metaphorical crystal!" song, Lindsey wrote a, "I hate you, farm animal- sounding devil woman!" guttural equivalent. There is no better example of Lindsey's wrath than the classic hit Go Your Own Way- Lindsey's big ol' "f you" to his former flame. Stevie dumped Lindsey during the making of Rumours due to Lindsey having his big ol' white-man fro shoved so far up his ass. He was really taken aback by the dump, which is strange considering EVERY SONG ON THE PRIOR ALBUM FLEETWOOD MAC WAS ABOUT STEVIE'S UNHAPPINESS IN THE RELATIONSHIP. Lindsey was so hurt and pissed by Stevie's gall, that he wrote the most blatantly childish and emotionally bipolar I Hate You!/No, I Love You! songs of the 1970's. Go Your Own Way is about as psycho as a twenty-one year old girl with daddy issues. In the song, Lindsey runs the emotional gamut from questioning- "How can I ever change things that I feel?"- to generosity- "I'd give you my world"- to anger- "Go your own way!"- to accusatory- "Shacking up is all you wanna do"- to optimism- "Everything is waiting for you". It's obvious Lindsey didn't know what he was thinking or feeling. If his aim was to piss Stevie off, then he succeeded. Stevie is quoted as saying that she wanted to walk over and strangle him onstage every time the line, "Shacking up is all you wanna do" came out of his mouth. Lindsey and Stevie's drama was bad for them, but great for us. Their twisted little soap opera ran for decades- long after the pair split up- with an estimated 30 songs written about each other. Sadly, the drama has quieted in their old age. Lindsey finally settled down and had kids, Stevie lives alone and collects Yorkies and dream catchers.
http://hipstercrite.blogspot.com/201...messed-up.html
chiliD
02-04-2011, 04:42 PM
February 4, 1977
:(
"a(nother) day that will live in infamy".
The day the scourge began.
:distress:
"watching (Fleetwood Mac) decline"
"I know you don't agree".
Villavic
02-04-2011, 05:07 PM
"watching (Fleetwood Mac) decline"
It's funny how big commercial successes are usually hated. I mean, usually they blame on the bands, but I think they should blame just on the people.
MissLadyLoki
02-04-2011, 06:18 PM
I'm gonna be honest, if it wasn't for that album, I wouldn't be here right now. A fantastic album IMO, my gateway drug to the Mac and a big one to my current musical world of old-school rock and metal.
Anyways, while i do disagree that some folks hate it cause it "ruined" the Mac, I can say I have the same feelings for Metallica's Black Album. Before it, they were a fantastic thrash metal band and, while the Black Album sold a lot and made 'em very popular, it was awful (c'mon, in regard to ballads, Nothing Else Matters doesn't even hold a scented candle to the awesomeness that is Fade to Black) and the more mainstream alt sound that evolved from it sounds awful to me.
So basically what I was saying that just because an album sold a zillion copies doesn't mean everyone is gonna be sold on it or be all that great. Rumours, however, is still a great album IMO.
bluefox4000
02-04-2011, 06:32 PM
The 2nd Mac album I heard. Though I like several albums over it, Rumours is a classic. I believe this album will never die:nod:
Mick
Silver Springs
02-04-2011, 06:41 PM
This surprisingly wasn't my first Fleetwood Mac album, nor is it one of my absolute favourites. Don't get me wrong, I do love it. But as far as my love goes, Tusk and Tango In The Night have it in abundance. Rumours in my mind was somewhat safe. It only challenged lyrically. But Lindsey threw himself on the line with subsequent albums to push the boundaries of what they were capable. Not always appreciated owing to the fine detail and painstaking work involved, and the obvious fact that they weren't flagrant rip offs of Rumours. Rumours was it's own entity, but people expected more of the same breed of work, and when they daned to try something different they weren't appreciated for it. But anyway. That's the past.
Rumours is a beautiful album emotionally, and deserves its place as one of the greatest.
MacMan
02-04-2011, 07:43 PM
1.) Lindsey finally settled down and had kids, Stevie lives alone and collects Yorkies and dream catchers.
http://hipstercrite.blogspot.com/201...messed-up.html
That was funny!
chiliD
02-04-2011, 07:54 PM
It's funny how big commercial successes are usually hated. I mean, usually they blame on the bands, but I think they should blame just on the people.
If it was a case where the band promoted the album on the subsequent tour, then just played a couple of random songs from the album on tours after that, I'd agree with you. But, no, Fleetwood Mac has made a conscious effort to keep the entire Rumours mystique alive for 34 years. That's the band's doing, that's the band's fault, that's the band's downfall.
chiliD
02-04-2011, 07:56 PM
I believe this album will never die:nod:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please, kill it now...it's already 30 years too late!!!!!
vivfox
02-04-2011, 08:51 PM
:(
"a(nother) day that will live in infamy".
The day the scourge began.
:distress:
"watching (Fleetwood Mac) decline"
"I know you don't agree".
I actually agree with you Steve. Rumours was a blessing and a curse for this band. Every tour since 1977 has felt like the Rumours Tour, though not as exciting.
vivfox
02-04-2011, 08:52 PM
I'm gonna be honest, if it wasn't for that album, I wouldn't be here right now. A fantastic album IMO, my gateway drug to the Mac and a big one to my current musical world of old-school rock and metal.
Anyways, while i do disagree that some folks hate it cause it "ruined" the Mac, I can say I have the same feelings for Metallica's Black Album. Before it, they were a fantastic thrash metal band and, while the Black Album sold a lot and made 'em very popular, it was awful (c'mon, in regard to ballads, Nothing Else Matters doesn't even hold a scented candle to the awesomeness that is Fade to Black) and the more mainstream alt sound that evolved from it sounds awful to me.
So basically what I was saying that just because an album sold a zillion copies doesn't mean everyone is gonna be sold on it or be all that great. Rumours, however, is still a great album IMO.
This was a very well written, very good post. My favorite words you wrote were "doesn't even hold a scented candle to."
MissLadyLoki
02-04-2011, 09:15 PM
This was a very well written, very good post. My favorite words you wrote were "doesn't even hold a scented candle to."
Thanks Viv. I try to sound smart, even when I'm feeling braindead after a week of school and stressing about a history class I dropped (no one told me the word "colloquium" meant writing 5, 2-page papers, a 4-page proposal, a 15-page research paper, and read a 400-page book in a week, just that you sit around yakking, which would've been right up my alley :laugh:)
TerraRhiannon
02-04-2011, 10:36 PM
Happy Birthday to Rumours!! I think this album was definitely a blessing to the band, and the only reason they keep playing the songs from it is because the audience only wants to hear the hits, the classics etc. Unless you're a hardcore fan like us, e.t.c. But really, Heart still plays 'Magic Man,' 'Crazy On You,' & 'Barracuda,' at just about every set, and I am the biggest fan, but on Wednesday when they played those songs it was like I was hearing them for the first time again. I think it would be the same way for me with hearing the Rumours songs in a Fleetwood Mac set.
bluefox4000
02-04-2011, 11:07 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please, kill it now...it's already 30 years too late!!!!!
Hey It's a classic.......but I will admit I'm so burnt out on it and done with it. The Mac we'll drill these babies as long as they can:laugh: Actually I'm burnt out on the whole Rumours era.
Mick
Villavic
02-04-2011, 11:52 PM
If it was a case where the band promoted the album on the subsequent tour, then just played a couple of random songs from the album on tours after that, I'd agree with you. But, no, Fleetwood Mac has made a conscious effort to keep the entire Rumours mystique alive for 34 years. That's the band's doing, that's the band's fault, that's the band's downfall.
Didn't know Rhiannon, Everywhere, So Afraid, and acoustic Big Love belong to Rumours album :). I do agree I'm also burn out sometimes on those (always the same) songs, Rumours or not. As I'm burn out of Hotel California and Hey Jude, always played on radios. I still think the media is more responsible. And the people. They don't go to concerts, spend hundred dollars thinking "oh well,:( let's go to listen the same old songs we heard in the last tour 5 years ago, unlucky me". No, they just enjoy it! Well I think they did enjoy at AA Arena in Dallas, 2009. After all that ovation and applauses I saw, I guess if there is a new tour in 2011, 2012... FM will play again Gypsy, Rhiannon, The Chain and GDW.
Let's check some numbers:
Randomly chosen Unleashed tour setlist (Australia, 23 songs): 6 Rumours songs (7 including SSprings). 6 white album songs, 4 tusk songs, etc. Well the 70s era is the dominating, can't discuss that. A hits tour they said, obviously Rumours brought more hits than other albums, however I feel it's not enough to say this is another Rumours tour
Randomly chosen SYW concert:
Columbus, OH, USA Setlist on May 7, 2003 - 24 songs
8 SYW songs, 7 Rumours songs, 3 White album songs, 2 Mirage songs, 1 Tango song
Rumours songs dominate the old songs material, I admit I'd have chosen more Tango songs instead, but it's not enough to say this is another Rumours tour. Actually I've seen other bands where their setlists includes less songs from the promoting album.
The Dance DVD set list (probably the guilty on this perception) 22 songs:
8 Rumours songs, 5 white album songs, 3 Tango, 1 Mirage, etc.. Almost a Rumours tour, the following tour was called officially the Reunion tour (not the Dance) has too many Rumours songs, I agree. Hey!! Wasn't this reunion a celebration of the 20th anniversary of Rumours?
Let's go back in time a bit. Mirage tour 1982, According to Wikipedia, 22 songs setlist contains:
8 Rumours songs, 5 white songs, 4 Mirage songs, 4 Tusk songs and Oh Well. Hummm... The SYW tour contains more songs of the new album that the Mirage tour. That's something to analyze.
What I think it's worth to analyze also is.. not why there are so many Rumours songs. It's obvious. But why there are too few Tusk songs on any tour? The White songs number is decent, but Tusk and Tango are almost ignored.
If they do a public survey at a website, asking: Do you want YMLF, Don't Stop, Never Going Back Again, Sara and Big Love? or Do you want I know I'm not Wrong, Another Woman, Straight Back, Can't go Back and What's the world coming to?.... what setlist will win? Not asked to fans only, but anyone... I don't think the second will win (as a fan I'd say It's sad, cause there are lot of songs I love I know I'll never see live. Not impossible.. cause watching STORMS in 2009 was like an incredible gift to me.. but unlikely.
And... it would be also a fault of Pink Floyd or Roger Waters to play entire Dark Side of the Moon or The Wall in their shows (Rumours is not played entirely). Well I enjoy those faults. DSOTM was combined with the latest Roger material, that I also enjoyed.
Ok, I agree the setlist is not well balanced in terms of albums, but I wouldn't say (complain) those are Rumours tours
...If FM started to decline on February 4, 1977, then Rumours is better than Tusk. I agree with that :)
gypsy4life
02-05-2011, 01:34 AM
Happy Birthday to the album that literally shaped my life!!
I said it before, my parents were listening to this throughout my childhood(born in 1978)
I love this album, it is ingrained in my heart.
jellyman10
02-05-2011, 11:39 AM
Stevie dumped Lindsey during the making of Rumours due to Lindsey having his big ol' white-man fro shoved so far up his ass. He was really taken aback by the dump, which is strange considering EVERY SONG ON THE PRIOR ALBUM FLEETWOOD MAC WAS ABOUT STEVIE'S UNHAPPINESS IN THE RELATIONSHIP.
Sometimes I hate myself, because.......
I enjoyed this post a lot, too, and I think Hipstercrite is a good writer -- which is why it pains me to say that the best line in the whole piece is spoiled by being only one-third accurate.
'Crystal' is the most blissed-out ditty she ever wrote about LB and 'Rhiannon' isn't about them at all. But yeh, 'Landslide' hits the spot.
David
02-06-2011, 11:58 AM
Rumours . . . great stuff!
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