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David A
12-31-2010, 02:31 PM
. The fact that FM didn’t include GYOW or The Chain on the LIVE album, I mean, those songs back then rocked live

. The fact they never have played on more award shows. Bon Jovi now a days is like on every damn one, why couldn’t have FM done the same

. The fact that the media big time over plays SN solo career. I mean, was she a success as a Solo act ? for sure, but keep it real, her success was mainly cause of FM, and as a solo act on her own, her number, etc. don’t even compare to other acts. Heck, Pat Benatar has sold more than she has, and yet I bet you people will say that SN career (as a solo act) was better than Pats

. The fact LB OOTC was not more successful, this is the best album I have ever heard

. The Grammy performance. Man, I so wish they could have had like a 7-10 minute set to really show them what they have, instead, a dumb medley, all though it’s not FM fault, Grammys choose

. That LB in the few award acceptances never talks, it’s like, Dude, you are a main part of this band, step up and say something

. The fact that FM is a pop band, they are a rock act!

. People often think LB is too dramatic when he says how he had so many issues within the band. I mean, you try working with your EX and basically being the reason her songs sound great, and she gets most of the credit and focus, you try dealing with that. Granted, you are making millions, but at the end of the day, it will burn you deep inside

. That FM never has released all their videos. Just amazing they don’t

. That DR doc wasn’t longer, you would think with all the footage they had, there could have been a extended cut, etc

. That FM still doesn’t get enough credit as being one of the best bands ever, they simply are

. That they choose stick with Warners on their recent album, they would so much benefit by leaving WB

. That people bash LB for having a wife. I mean, after all this time, is he not allowed to be happy? Regardless of what his wife may or may not be like

. That LB when he performs on TV shows, etc, always plays a damn weird song, it’s like dude, if you are not going to play Big Love, what’s wrong with Trouble, etc. He goes to the Beverly Hills event and plays a few songs that no one has heard of, and probably don’t even like. It’s like, show case your talents dude

. That FM never played with the Eagles. Yes, egos, but man, imagine the possibilities

. The fact that FM took so much time off after Mirage, it’s like, 5 years when you are still in your heyday per say

. The fact that they never have considered teaming up with Caillat and Dashut again, it just makes so much sense to do it

That’s all for now

Silver Springs
12-31-2010, 02:45 PM
Couldn't this have been posted in another one of your ranty threads?

MissLadyLoki
12-31-2010, 02:47 PM
Couldn't this have been posted in another one of your ranty threads?

How many of these have been made so far? 4?

And Bee's right: you should've just reposted this on another thread

joe
12-31-2010, 02:57 PM
GYOW WAS on the Live album.

And FM DID play with the Eagles back in '76 for the 4th of July. Not sure if there were other dates. Check out Mick's book.

elle
12-31-2010, 03:08 PM
:sorry:sorry to seemingly gang up on you, but i'm with Bee and Cassie - it's nice you are starting interesting discussions but dude - why don't you actually participate in them instead of starting yet another thread?

TerraRhiannon
12-31-2010, 03:23 PM
. That FM still doesn’t get enough credit as being one of the best bands ever, they simply are



It's all opinion. I'm half on this. Sure they shaped music with the album "Rumours," influenced millions of people, and sold 50+ million records, but they doesn't necessarily mean they are the best bands ever. A lot of people don't even know Fleetwood Mac beyond 'Rumours' which is sad. Using your logic in the quoted statement, I could say Heart is the best band in the world. Because you used no logic. :)

There is so much one could discuss on these topics you listed, that really, you could find a thread already in existence for all of them & state your opinions there. Not that you're not allowed to state your opinions in this matter, it's just that it's a lot to take in all at once. Just Saying.

Silver Springs
12-31-2010, 03:25 PM
Using your logic in the quoted statement, I could say Heart is the best band in the world. Because you used no logic. :)

Brrr. Cold Jillian. Cold. :lol:

TerraRhiannon
12-31-2010, 03:31 PM
Brrr. Cold Jillian. Cold. :lol:

Are you trying to hint to me that they are not :eek: Cold, Honey Bee, COLD ;)

Silver Springs
12-31-2010, 03:32 PM
Are you trying to hint to me that they are not :eek: Cold, Honey Bee, COLD ;)

Well I couldn't name a single song of theirs, let me put it that way. ;)

TerraRhiannon
12-31-2010, 03:38 PM
Well I couldn't name a single song of theirs, let me put it that way. ;)

Ohhhh, I gotcha. They have a lot of songs like Crazy On You, Magic Man, Barracuda, All I Wanna Do Is Make Love To You, These Dreams & a couple others you might recognize if you heard them! :thumbsup:

I just noticed something completely off topic, everytime I go to use a smilie from the displayed list the one I want is never there. Yet if there is one I don't want to use, it's there. They should put all the smilies over there, cause I'm too lazy :lol:

holidayroad
12-31-2010, 04:44 PM
.

. The fact they never have played on more award shows. Bon Jovi now a days is like on every damn one, why couldn’t have FM done the same

. That FM never has released all their videos. Just amazing they don’t

. That FM still doesn’t get enough credit as being one of the best bands ever, they simply are

. That they choose stick with Warners on their recent album, they would so much benefit by leaving WB

. The fact that FM took so much time off after Mirage, it’s like, 5 years when you are still in your heyday per say

. The fact that they never have considered teaming up with Caillat and Dashut again, it just makes so much sense to do it

That’s all for now

I guess they would have to be invited by the award shows.

I agree they need to have all their videos released. I guess that's a record company decision.

I agree that Fleetwood Mac doesn't get the credit it deserves. I'm unsure why they don't.

I think they stick with Warners because they figure Warners won't drop them if an album doesn't do well. They may think another label wouldn't keep them.

I agree that 5 years was too long of a hiatus. Well, can't do anything about that now.

Having at least Richard Dashut back would be the smartest thing Fleetwood Mac could currently do.

ButterCookie
12-31-2010, 08:33 PM
Blondie are the best band in the world, because they are.

Silver Springs
12-31-2010, 08:36 PM
Blondie are the best band in the world, because they are.

As logical an argument as you're gonna get in this thread :p

R.E.M. are the best band ever, because my Cat told me :p Only joking. They're the best band ever because I molested their lead singer when he jumped off of stage during Losing My Religion XD

ButterCookie
12-31-2010, 08:38 PM
As logical an argument as you're gonna get in this thread :p

R.E.M. are the best band ever, because my Cat told me :p Only joking. They're the best band ever because I molested their lead singer when he jumped off of stage during Losing My Religion XD

^^^ This.

All arguments are now invalid. Bee wins the internet :D

MissLadyLoki
12-31-2010, 08:41 PM
No, you're all wrong! Led Zeppelin is the best band in the world, and that's cause I said so, not to mention that Robert, Jimmy, Bonzo, and JPJ are all the best there are at what they do, not to mention that Physical Graffiti is hands-down the best double album around (and I saw the buildings too :p)

Silver Springs
12-31-2010, 08:46 PM
^^^ This.

All arguments are now invalid. Bee wins the internet :D

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Sleepless-Child
01-01-2011, 07:01 PM
David A said "ONE OF the best bands ever, they simply are". Yes, i think so too. ONE of the best (which means that there are plenty of other great bands) for different reasons that he probably explained at least one time in those numerous threads.

MissLadyLoki
01-01-2011, 08:49 PM
David A said "ONE OF the best bands ever, they simply are". Yes, i think so too. ONE of the best (which means that there are plenty of other great bands) for different reasons that he probably explained at least one time in those numerous threads.

Yeah I agree with that :nod:

Of course, I must wonder if any of you will agree that the best band that never was is: Spinal Tap!

LukeA
01-01-2011, 09:07 PM
How many of these have been made so far? 4?

And Bee's right: you should've just reposted this on another thread

He's been doing this (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=810588&postcount=3)for years.

Villavic
01-03-2011, 02:52 PM
The fact LB OOTC was not more successful, this is the best album I have ever heard


As TerraRhiannon said, It's all opinion. I love OOTC but to me, Rumours, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish you were here and Synhronicity are far better albums.

Villavic
01-03-2011, 02:57 PM
. The fact that FM didn’t include GYOW or The Chain on the LIVE album, I mean, those songs back then rocked live



The fact that you don't know GYOW is included in LIVE detracts your thread. Or maybe they sold you just disc 1?

TrueFaith77
01-03-2011, 02:59 PM
As TerraRhiannon said, It's all opinion. I love OOTC but to me, Rumours, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish you were here and Synhronicity are far better albums.

No mac solo album makes my top 100+ of my lifetime. Three Mac albums do though and Tusk and Rumours would top the list.

Top 25 Favorite Albums of All Time (http://rateyourmusic.com/list/johndemetry/25_favourite_albums_of_all_time_)

Top 107 Greatest Albums of My Lifetime: The Masterpieces (http://rateyourmusic.com/list/johndemetry/107_greatest_albums_1977_present__the_masterpieces_)

Villavic
01-04-2011, 12:17 AM
No, you're all wrong! Led Zeppelin is the best band in the world, and that's cause I said so,...

No No, the best band ever is Villavic and the Lunatics.

"And yet Its still moves" – Galileo Galilei

LukeA
01-04-2011, 12:25 AM
That’s all for now

Thanks. Now its MY TURN.

If you only see one film the rest of your life it should be "Mickey Blue Eyes".

When it comes to window blinds, vertical blinds are terrific, but so are horizontal blinds.

Has anybody ever died of a heart attack? I mean, really?

I don't care what anyone says, in my book, Ted Kaczynski is not the Unabomber.

Sudden thought: When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?

Of all of the figures of the 20th Century one of the greatest has to be Robert Urich.

I have no tolerance, gang, for anyone who commits arson.

The more I think about it, the more I appreciate the equator.

I don't ever remember seeing a Mormon, not once, not ever.

Is it just me, or is anyone else sick and tired of Nelson Mandela?

Here's the dirty truth, gang, Poland spring water does not come from Poland.

Does anybody remember baseball cards?

Between Hurricane Hugo and Hurricane Andrew, nothing beats Hurricane Hugo.

(thanks, Norm (http://snltranscripts.jt.org/99/99clarryking1.phtml).)

Villavic
01-04-2011, 05:25 PM
Thanks. Now its MY TURN.

If you only see one film the rest of your life it should be "Mickey Blue Eyes".

When it comes to window blinds, vertical blinds are terrific, but so are horizontal blinds.

Has anybody ever died of a heart attack? I mean, really?

I don't care what anyone says, in my book, Ted Kaczynski is not the Unabomber.

Sudden thought: When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?

Of all of the figures of the 20th Century one of the greatest has to be Robert Urich.

I have no tolerance, gang, for anyone who commits arson.

The more I think about it, the more I appreciate the equator.

I don't ever remember seeing a Mormon, not once, not ever.

Is it just me, or is anyone else sick and tired of Nelson Mandela?

Here's the dirty truth, gang, Poland spring water does not come from Poland.

Does anybody remember baseball cards?

Between Hurricane Hugo and Hurricane Andrew, nothing beats Hurricane Hugo.

(thanks, Norm (http://snltranscripts.jt.org/99/99clarryking1.phtml).)

Are we still talking about Fleetwood Mac? :confused:

chiliD
01-04-2011, 06:08 PM
. The fact that FM didn’t include GYOW or The Chain on the LIVE album, I mean, those songs back then rocked live

Do you not own the Live album? Check out either side 4 of the LP or disc 2, GYOW is right there...in your face.

Unless they release a THREE LP set, to include an entire show, some songs just don't make the cut. And, from what I recall (and can even be heard on the live cut of GYOW), Lindsey seemed to have a definite tuning problem on stage...there may not have been a decent recording (to their standards, anyway) of "The Chain" that they wanted released at the time.



. . The fact they never have played on more award shows. Bon Jovi now a days is like on every damn one, why couldn’t have FM done the same

Overkill...they knew when to show up and when not to.

. . The fact that the media big time over plays SN solo career. I mean, was she a success as a Solo act ? for sure, but keep it real, her success was mainly cause of FM, and as a solo act on her own, her number, etc. don’t even compare to other acts. Heck, Pat Benatar has sold more than she has, and yet I bet you people will say that SN career (as a solo act) was better than Pats

Benatar has released two or three times as many albums as Stevie has solo. What's your point?

. . The fact LB OOTC was not more successful, this is the best album I have ever heard

In 1992/93, NOTHING Fleetwood Mac related was cool & hip...therefore, NOTHING was going climb the charts. OotC is Lindsey's masterpiece but for being released in 1992, it still sounded like it was stuck in 1988.

. . The Grammy performance. Man, I so wish they could have had like a 7-10 minute set to really show them what they have, instead, a dumb medley, all though it’s not FM fault, Grammys choose

Wow...that was a long time ago. Still can't let that go?

. . That LB in the few award acceptances never talks, it’s like, Dude, you are a main part of this band, step up and say something

Mick's the spokesman for Fleetwood Mac, just band politics

. . The fact that FM is a pop band, they are a rock act!

Ummmm....not since '75. Lindsey & Stevie took them directly to "pop". Yeah, they can kick ass in concert, but their albums are, as Nick Lowe said, "Pure Pop For Now People".

. . People often think LB is too dramatic when he says how he had so many issues within the band. I mean, you try working with your EX and basically being the reason her songs sound great, and she gets most of the credit and focus, you try dealing with that. Granted, you are making millions, but at the end of the day, it will burn you deep inside

He's a whiner, was a whiner, always WILL be a whiner. The dude had issues.

. . That FM never has released all their videos. Just amazing they don’t

They must've had a reason.

. . That DR doc wasn’t longer, you would think with all the footage they had, there could have been a extended cut, etc

How much more of it could you take? All the sniping & whining gets old after 10 minutes.

. . That FM still doesn’t get enough credit as being one of the best bands ever, they simply are

Well, they didn't change the world, they just sold a ****load of records during a short period of time.

. . That they choose stick with Warners on their recent album, they would so much benefit by leaving WB

How do you know that? Maybe they wouldn't, which is why they stayed...maybe they still owe WB $$$. :shrug:

. . That people bash LB for having a wife. I mean, after all this time, is he not allowed to be happy? Regardless of what his wife may or may not be like

Not that he has a wife...that his wife isn't Stevie Nicks...you gotta get that concept.

. . That LB when he performs on TV shows, etc, always plays a damn weird song, it’s like dude, if you are not going to play Big Love, what’s wrong with Trouble, etc. He goes to the Beverly Hills event and plays a few songs that no one has heard of, and probably don’t even like. It’s like, show case your talents dude

And, I'd bet you'd complain if he played the same song every TV performance...can't have it both ways.

. . That FM never played with the Eagles. Yes, egos, but man, imagine the possibilities

Do you ever research the facts before you spew??

. . The fact that FM took so much time off after Mirage, it’s like, 5 years when you are still in your heyday per say

Ok, now you're getting into my pet peeve territory...although I'd say the time off BEFORE Mirage was more damaging.

. . The fact that they never have considered teaming up with Caillat and Dashut again, it just makes so much sense to do it

Ever think that Ken & Richard may not WANT to work with them again?

. . That’s all for now

Thank GOD!!!