View Full Version : The Dance rehearsal + interview vids...!
mylittledemon
11-17-2010, 11:12 PM
Never seen this stuff before!
Interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gen7CjXbFuI
You Make Loving Fun rehearsal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK37WT_B4tQ
michelej1
11-17-2010, 11:49 PM
Beautiful to look at all 5 of them like that.
This sounds like interview parts that didn't get on the Best Buy CD. They are a weird bunch of people. They are so uncomfortable looking.
Stevie sitting on that box is so strange. I guess it's because her top and bottom are both black that it's hard for me to see her legs. It looks like she is just a talking torso! She looks like a dwarf or something.
Michele
michelej1
11-17-2010, 11:57 PM
Christine said, "we don't smoke."
Those people sound good in rehearsal. Wonder why they never caught on.
Michele
aleuzzi
11-18-2010, 12:06 AM
Beautiful to look at all 5 of them like that.
This sounds like interview parts that didn't get on the Best Buy CD. They are a weird bunch of people. They are so uncomfortable looking.
Stevie sitting on that box is so strange. I guess it's because her top and bottom are both black that it's hard for me to see her legs. It looks like she is just a talking torso! She looks like a dwarf or something.
Michele
Yeah, they all seem oddly reticent. Thankfully, they have no problem communicating on stage.
michelej1
11-18-2010, 12:10 AM
Yeah, they all seem oddly reticent. Thankfully, they have no problem communicating on stage.
It's like Mick felt self-conscious about how stiff they all were and then he jumped in and started explaining why.
The most natural part was when Chris laughed at Mick and said "shut up." That seemed warm.
Michele
aleuzzi
11-18-2010, 12:20 AM
The rehearsal was quite strong.
I really enjoyed hearing all three of their voices on the chorus of GYOW.
michelej1
11-18-2010, 12:37 AM
I really enjoyed hearing all three of their voices on the chorus of GYOW.
Yes, I missed that with YMLF. I wondered where those background vocals were coming from that accompanied Chris on the song. Couldn't tell if they were recorded or if the back up singers were actually on stage but just off screen.
Chris' voice sounded great on lead.
Linds was wearing a maternity top. Stevie was like "no" she wouldn't be performing any solo songs. I hope Lindsey didn't threaten her life or anything! Stand Back had to stand back a bit until the tour really kicked off.
Michele
Fiver
11-18-2010, 01:56 AM
First two parts are pretty neat fly on the wall, b-roll footage an more interviews.
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yo_8NRQ9VQ
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGBji-8-3jo
Thanks for posting these!:blob2:
EDIT: Hahaha.. check out @4:17 in the second part. Sooo adorable. :D
Artemis
11-18-2010, 02:29 AM
Ahaha. John McVie doesn't like Labour. My respect for him has just like, tripled. :laugh:
These are really interesting to watch, thanks for posting them!
louielouie2000
11-18-2010, 03:43 AM
It's so interesting to see these clips and compare them to the Dance concert. I don't know what it was about the cameras they used for the Dance, but they made Lindsey and especially Stevie look overweight. When you look at them in these interviews, they look just fabulous. Christine almost looks too thin. It's just interesting to see how much younger they all look, too. I still remember this time period like it was yesterday. Hard to believe nearly a decade and a half has passed.
Just seeing these vids makes me miss Chris terribly :distress:. Everyone looks so much happier and more centered with her there, too. Just makes you wonder what could have been? :(
vivfox
11-18-2010, 08:41 AM
In 1997, Fleetwood Mac Danced Again
By jeffreychrist
It would have been easy, even in 1997, to discount Fleetwood Mac’s Phoenix-from-the-flame resurrection. Yes, it had been, at that point, almost 7 years since their last quasi-hit album, the Top 20 Buckingham-less BEHIND THE MASK, and a full decade since their last Top 10 (1987s TANGO IN THE NIGHT). Their last #1, MIRAGE, was in 1982. But the Mac’s legend supersedes such frivolities. One should never underestimate the power of hundreds of millions of sold albums, or a Rock n Roll soap opera nonpareil. Fleetwood Mac might have been dinosaurs by the late 1990s, but they were far from extinct.
Of course, with all the turmoil that imploded the band, it was a pipe dream for any ardent Mac fan to ever hope that the classic line-up – obviously it’s most artistic, and not the mention, lucrative – would ever reform. McVie retired in her English castle, Buckingham was busy with his own career, and Nicks had her own solo career with varying degrees of success, half of which was riddled with drug addiction and recovery.
This line-up’s last public performance was at the request of the White House. Throughout his campaign for president, Bill Clinton used “Don’t Stop” as his official theme song, and President-elect Clinton requested the Mac perform it at his 1993 inauguration. But reuniting wasn’t even on their radar.
But, reunite they did, and the result was a wonderful live album called THE DANCE. The Grammy-nominated CD hit #1 and a refreshed, healthy, sober and exhilarating Fleetwood Mac embarked upon a comeback for the ages, mounting a monumentally successful tour and reigniting the world’s passion for the classic assemblage.
In the following clips, Stevie Nicks, Lindsay Buckingham, Christine McVie, John McVie and Mick Fleetwood are interviewed in North Hollywood, California, during their rehearsals that begot the CD and live TV concert. The interview took place on April 18 1997.
Enjoy these rare, behind the scenes interviews and performances from Fleetwood Mac!
http://mynewboyfriend.com/2010/11/18/in-1997-fleetwood-mac-danced-again/
It's so interesting to see these clips and compare them to the Dance concert. I don't know what it was about the cameras they used for the Dance, but they made Lindsey and especially Stevie look overweight. When you look at them in these interviews, they look just fabulous. Christine almost looks too thin. It's just interesting to see how much younger they all look, too. I still remember this time period like it was yesterday. Hard to believe nearly a decade and a half has passed.
Just seeing these vids makes me miss Chris terribly :distress:. Everyone looks so much happier and more centered with her there, too. Just makes you wonder what could have been? :(
Totally agree. Although I think Lindsey still looks a little pudgy in the interviews. They look a bit stiff but that's just due to the sudden shock (as they reiterate in the interviews) of what was happening. And, Christine did look too thin. I think she actually looked better as the tour progressed and even now, er, the "ITM" interview stuff. I think it's her shorter hair too. Nonetheless, the band is not the band without her, imo.
Yes, I missed that with YMLF. I wondered where those background vocals were coming from that accompanied Chris on the song. Couldn't tell if they were recorded or if the back up singers were actually on stage but just off screen.
Chris' voice sounded great on lead.
Linds was wearing a maternity top. Stevie was like "no" she wouldn't be performing any solo songs. I hope Lindsey didn't threaten her life or anything! Stand Back had to stand back a bit until the tour really kicked off.
Michele
^^ Lindsey in a maternity top...ha ha...that made me giggle! A LOT.
Stevie looks like she's wearing a nightgown (I know I know, she always does) but this one came out of the back of the closet, the one you wear when all the laundry is dirty.
I think they are the most precious group of people I've ever seen! I miss Chris now more than ever! Somewhere in the back of my mind I have this feeling she will reunite with them...at least once during the next tour.
A girl can dream!
Kena
SmileAtYou
11-18-2010, 11:56 AM
Neat interview! Stevie looks so little, like only half of her is floating on that box
michelej1
11-18-2010, 01:31 PM
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yo_8NRQ9VQ
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGBji-8-3jo
Uh yeah, these first two parts . . . I am just sitting here minding my own business. I did not watch those clips with a shippy agenda. It just kind of jumped right out and smacked me in the craw.
Lindsey is so crazy. The steakhouse circuit is a one way trip to Palookaville, which kind of reminds me of what Hejira was saying in another thread.
John said he wouldn't perform for the Labour Party:lol:.
I have to say that their were rumors about Christine's health in the last 10 years and it's hard for me not to think about things when I see her hair in these clips. But whatever was or was not . . . at least she looked great when she was promoting Meantime and it's funny to me how even her speaking voice has a musical quality. Most people when they speak talk in a monotone, but she actually TALKS at different voice levels. She's very melodic to listen to, even when all she is saying is that it's hot in the room.
I could look at these people all day long, because they have like antennae or speak on a different frequency, so they are saying things to each other, when it's not obvious. I mean even that fan thing said so much about their personalities. Lindsey's like he doesn't care if they turn it off or not, because it wouldn't do HIM any good and John and Mick are telling Christine that maybe if she hadn't said anything, no one would have noticed anyway and then Stevie's talking about the camera angle and Lindsey's all in her ear asking if she really wants to mess with it. Does she really want to check it out. He's like joking with her and deliberately bothering her at the same time -- which is the same thing he likes to do with John. But he doesn't like to smell John's hair as much as he does Stevie's!
Michele
fringed n fab
11-18-2010, 01:40 PM
^^ Lindsey in a maternity top...ha ha...that made me giggle! A LOT.
Stevie looks like she's wearing a nightgown (I know I know, she always does) but this one came out of the back of the closet, the one you wear when all the laundry is dirty.
I think they are the most precious group of people I've ever seen! I miss Chris now more than ever! Somewhere in the back of my mind I have this feeling she will reunite with them...at least once during the next tour.
A girl can dream!
Kena
I agree about this rehearsal frock, but if all her other skirts look like nightgowns, they're the prettiest I've ever seen. I love her clothes and would wear just about all except the recent ruffled getups. I'm more about her wispy chiffon look.
CADreaming
11-18-2010, 01:49 PM
I could look at these people all day long, because they have like antennae or speak on a different frequency, so they are saying things to each other, when it's not obvious. I mean even that fan thing said so much about their personalities. Lindsey's like he doesn't care if they turn it off or not, because it wouldn't do HIM any good and John and Mick are telling Christine that maybe if she hadn't said anything, no one would have noticed anyway and then Stevie's talking about the camera angle and Lindsey's all in her ear asking if she really wants to mess with it. Does she really want to check it out. He's like joking with her and deliberately bothering her at the same time -- which is the same thing he likes to do with John. But he doesn't like to smell John's hair as much as he does Stevie's!
Michele
Or kiss his head...lol
Loved the way he leaned over and whispered to Stevie, "we're still not talking" and her smile was like they had soe inside joke. Christine did not look amused there. Poor Mick always the piggy in the middle...
Fiver
11-18-2010, 02:30 PM
Just seeing these vids makes me miss Chris terribly :distress:. Everyone looks so much happier and more centered with her there, too. Just makes you wonder what could have been? :(
I agree, when she's there everything just clicks. Conversation-wise and, even better, musically! Wish I'd known about FM for the Dance tour. :(
Uh yeah, these first two parts . . . I am just sitting here minding my own business. I did not watch those clips with a shippy agenda. It just kind of jumped right out and smacked me in the craw.
Basically! Wasn't expecting that. Anyone else crack up when Stevie thought the photo shoot was over and turned her back on the cameras to dance (first vid)?
2nd part:
Interviewer: "Was that sorta surreal to play for that tuxedo'd, dressed up crowd?
Stevie: "Secret Service police.."
Chris: "No, but they got into it, they got into it. They were all standing up-
John: "Clapping on the on beat."
Chris: "Yeah, even the Ol' Prez got up, didn't he, I mean.. Mr President."
Mick: "MR. President."
John: "Ooops."
Chris & John: "Sorry, Bill." :lol:
APerfectLie
11-18-2010, 04:48 PM
Stevie Nicks: "I just woke up one day and I just wasn't angry at anybody anymore for anything!"
:lol:She is so full of ****!
APerfectLie
11-18-2010, 05:08 PM
"I'm sorry, I don't remember what the question was and I don't think I can answer it anyway!"
Best answer ever.
fairydust75
11-18-2010, 05:13 PM
Or kiss his head...lol
Loved the way he leaned over and whispered to Stevie, "we're still not talking" and her smile was like they had soe inside joke. Christine did not look amused there. Poor Mick always the piggy in the middle...
Wow is lindsey sure is touchy feely with stevie the kiss on the head, constantly nudging her. There was none of that during the Unleashed interviews.
michelej1
11-18-2010, 06:02 PM
Wow is lindsey sure is touchy feely with stevie the kiss on the head, constantly nudging her. There was none of that during the Unleashed interviews.
It's like he positioned himself just so he could spend half the time gazing down at her head.
She reminded him that "his girlfriend" would have been happy to play the steakhouse circuit.
Michele
Villavic
11-18-2010, 06:07 PM
I don't remember the rehearsal clips but do remember extracts of the interview, probably at some CBS, NBC or another TV news.
CADreaming
11-18-2010, 06:10 PM
Wow is lindsey sure is touchy feely with stevie the kiss on the head, constantly nudging her. There was none of that during the Unleashed interviews.
Well, it's different...now. He still sneaks in an occasional head kiss though, it's like he can't resist - he is just tall enough for it to work.
chiliD
11-18-2010, 07:39 PM
Anybody know how to capture a YouTube video's audio track as an mp3? :shrug: I just realized I have the entire The Dance set on mp3 EXCEPT for "Gold Dust Woman".
mylittledemon
11-18-2010, 07:54 PM
Anybody know how to capture a YouTube video's audio track as an mp3? :shrug: I just realized I have the entire The Dance set on mp3 EXCEPT for "Gold Dust Woman".
Hey boss... PM your email address and I'll send you an MP3 of it. :thumbsup:
michelej1
11-18-2010, 08:55 PM
Christine did not look amused there. Poor Mick always the piggy in the middle...
And when they were asked when's the last time they did a two track, Lindsey said it was not 1987, but back in the BN days and they did great two part harmony, blah blah, blah. I would have just rolled my eyes, if I was one of the Brits.
Michele
CADreaming
11-18-2010, 09:07 PM
And when they were asked when's the last time they did a two track, Lindsey said it was not 1987, but back in the BN days and they did great two part harmony, blah blah, blah. I would have just rolled my eyes, if I was one of the Brits.
Michele
I think they were! Or Christine was...interesting body language going on in this interview!
Villavic
11-18-2010, 10:42 PM
When you look at them in these interviews, they look just fabulous. Christine almost looks too thin. It's just interesting to see how much younger they all look, too. I still remember this time period like it was yesterday. Hard to believe nearly a decade and a half has passed.
Just seeing these vids makes me miss Chris terribly :distress:. Everyone looks so much happier and more centered with her there, too. Just makes you wonder what could have been? :(
Totally agree.
Though Chris looks too serious at part1 (and the whole Dance show), but talks a lot at the interview so I think she was interested and excited about the show and the record... but maybe not the tour.
michelej1
11-18-2010, 10:47 PM
I think they were! Or Christine was...interesting body language going on in this interview!
Lindsey (who mentioned his solo album 20 times) said he was working with Mick on it and then some other people came into the studio. He didn't bother to say mention those other people as John and Christine, by name. That would have annoyed me.
It's a fascinating interview. Stevie was trying to very careful and diplomatic. Mick seemed to be nervous about how they were all coming off. They are a text book study, to be sure.
Michele
CADreaming
11-18-2010, 11:09 PM
Lindsey (who mentioned his solo album 20 times) said he was working with Mick on it and then some other people came into the studio. He didn't bother to say mention those other people as John and Christine, by name. That would have annoyed me.
It's a fascinating interview. Stevie was trying to very careful and diplomatic. Mick seemed to be nervous about how they were all coming off. They are a text book study, to be sure.
Michele
I didn't notice LB not naming them. Ha. I will listen for that again. It is a fascinating interview. They don't all seem totally comfortable with each other, yet Stevie and Lindsey seem downright cozy.
CreepingDeath
11-18-2010, 11:12 PM
Christine <3 <3 <3
That is all.
AliceLover
11-18-2010, 11:32 PM
If I had seen this interview before the Dance aired I probably would have been like "we're f**ked." I can't believe these 5 stiff's went from this rehearsal to The Dance...Crazy.
CADreaming
11-18-2010, 11:45 PM
If I had seen this interview before the Dance aired I probably would have been like "we're f**ked." I can't believe these 5 stiff's went from this rehearsal to The Dance...Crazy.
ROFLOL!!!! :thumbsup:
ragrsrocalot
11-19-2010, 09:38 AM
Thank you for posting this. I love in part one @10:40, when Lindsey is bumping Stevie. Mick seems to realize this and says " ello, ello ", classic, then Lindsey gives Stevie the kiss on the head and Stevie laughs with that little wicked giggle, priceless. All the while Christine is talking, so I don't think that Chris or John even knew what happened, making it even funnier, well to me anyway.
As far as the group being stiff, I think they were all still in a daze that the reunion was even happening, and they were careful with their words as to not offend anyone, or dwell on anything negative from the past. When asked about their set list, they just did not want to put their cards on the table. Mick even commented to the interviewer at the end (when asked about doing Farmer's Daughter), that he was " well informed ". Also, they commented a couple of times that it was warm, and hot. I also like the fact that Christine spoke a lot during the interview, and in part two, when Stevie was asked how she felt about being an influence to so many people, Stevie paused, (again I think just wanting to be careful with her words, and not wanting to be singled out), Christine grabs Stevies arm and says " don't take it to seriously", very, very funny. I agree with John, that this is my favorite line up of the band. Very enjoyable interview that I had never seen before, so thanx again. :thumbsup:
TerraRhiannon
11-19-2010, 10:21 AM
I loved this interview, thanks for posting!
It's cute when the interviewer asks Stevie about being an influence, and she says "I don't really remember what the question was and I don't know how to answer it, anyways." :laugh:
Also, to the post above me, I think Lindsey leans over to whisper something to Mick, although I might be wrong, he might be kissing Stevie's head but I had to re-watch it carefully to come to the conclusion that he wasn't.
Fleetwoodmark
11-19-2010, 10:52 AM
To me I think it's just the fact that they hadn't been in an interview situation for a while. Also the fact that they had to be careful what they said as the tour etc hadn't kicked off yet. Stevie is a little strange though in this one, very abrupt...you are trying to promote renunion & tour, her manner suggested someone had just died.
One of my favourite interviews for sure. I think the practice was very strong as well. YMLF ftw !
michelej1
11-19-2010, 11:54 AM
To me I think it's just the fact that they hadn't been in an interview situation for a while. Also the fact that they had to be careful what they said as the tour etc hadn't kicked off yet. Stevie is a little strange though in this one, very abrupt...you are trying to promote renunion & tour, her manner suggested someone had just died.
One of my favourite interviews for sure. I think the practice was very strong as well. YMLF ftw !
Yes, no matter how stilted they looked in the interview, they sounded great and if I'd seen this in 1997 I would have been beyond excited about the upcoming music.
Stevie was conscious about being singled out. She is very formal and careful in the interview. Mick and Christine are too. Lindsey is acting pretty much like himself and I can almost feel Stevie relax when he finally says, that the whole has always been greater than the parts, because the rest of what he said about leaving in 1987 could have been insulting. She was just glad that he finished on a positive note and she was able to nod in agreement.
He also did say that he was involved in "TITN" and that was a bit modest on his part. He could have taken more credit there, but on the other hand, I think he was talking about his solo album too much.
They also were trying to be delicate when they discussed the setlist. I do think they were telling the truth when they said it wasn't finalized yet, even though Mick did concede Farmer's Daughter. I think there was some politics going on regarding solo songs. Also, it was interesting to hear Stevie talking about wanting to write something fresh and not use an old song, the same way she later discussed what she did for SYW.
Even if it wasn't John's favorite line up of the band (and I think it was and not just for monetary reasons), he would basically have to say it was, with the others sitting right there. I loved that Mick said that early FM was fun because John was just 18 at the time and John laughed in accord.
We know Mick is tall, but he just looked especially tall when they were all posing for pictures. Also, Lindsey was like a little boy when he ran and got his guitar. All the photographer needed to do was suggest that they have instruments and Lindsey left immediately as if he'd been waiting to hear someone request a guitar for the last 5 hours.
They are a fascinating quintet.
Michele
michelej1
11-19-2010, 11:59 AM
Also, to the post above me, I think Lindsey leans over to whisper something to Mick, although I might be wrong, he might be kissing Stevie's head but I had to re-watch it carefully to come to the conclusion that he wasn't.
I saw him kiss her to thank her for saying he did a good job on her music. But basically, he seemed to call himself being seductive towards her throughout.
Michele
aleuzzi
11-19-2010, 12:34 PM
I've seen older FM group interviews from the early 80s where the band looks similarly bored-annoyed-uncertain. Most of the five interview very well alone or in pairs. But when the five of them are all stuck together they kind of freeze up--perhaps out of fear that someone will say the wrong thing.
Incidentally, the Say You Will line up looked equally dead when they were featured on some tv awards show hosted by Jimmy Kimmell (where he talked them in Germany via Satellite.)
At the time of the rehearsals for The Dance, Lindsey, Mick and John seemed very keen to be out playing. Christine seemed excited once the music started but extremely bored or annoyed by all the other crap--lengthy photo shoots, tiresome interviews where the same questions are asked again and again, make up reapplications...
Stevie's tentativeness was VERY temporary. I think she might have started out saying "I just quit this band a few years earlier" but then saw that this was an opportunity to reignite her stardom and seized it.
For me the most interesting moment of the entire interview was when Mick mentioned that Bob Welch was maybe 5% unhappy with being in the band in 1974, a comment which Christine and John immediately pounced on. "I think it was a bit more than that! The writing was on the wall."
michelej1
11-19-2010, 01:15 PM
Incidentally, the Say You Will line up looked equally dead when they were featured on some tv awards show hosted by Jimmy Kimmell (where he talked them in Germany via Satellite.)
Ha, if it's the one I am thinking of, which was around the end of December, Lindsey definitely looked like a zombie, but they had just finished performing, so I suppose he was exhausted. He just stared. John had nothing to say, which is not atypical. Stevie and Mick were giggling like teens and having a grand old time with each other. Mick kept repeating something about them not being dead yet.
Michele
ragrsrocalot
11-19-2010, 01:15 PM
I also like in part one @ 6:26, after Stevie does her little dance, Lindsey says to her " Sweet little dress, sweet sweet dress, very nice ", in sort of a funny voice, Stevie face lights up, then Mick says " Can I get one? ".
And then in part 3 @ :56, Stevie looks like a flight attendant showing us where the exits are. No volume needed, just funny to watch.
ragrsrocalot
11-19-2010, 01:23 PM
I saw him kiss her to thank her for saying he did a good job on her music. But basically, he seemed to call himself being seductive towards her throughout.
Michele
I saw 2 kisses. Part one-@ 10:44, and part two-@ 4:17, as you stated.:)
michelej1
11-19-2010, 01:27 PM
I saw 2 kisses. Part one-@ 10:44, and part two-@ 4:17, as you stated.:)
Your time stamps are helpful. This weekend I will look at the clips again and use your guide to find things that I missed (like Stevie pointing out the exits). Who needs to shop for Thanksgiving, when I can do that?
He fell for her again, she watched it happen . . . meanwhile Will became a gleam in his dad's eye.
Michele
CADreaming
11-19-2010, 02:26 PM
I saw 2 kisses. Part one-@ 10:44, and part two-@ 4:17, as you stated.:)
Yep...
Your time stamps are helpful. This weekend I will look at the clips again and use your guide to find things that I missed (like Stevie pointing out the exits). Who needs to shop for Thanksgiving, when I can do that?
He fell for her again, she watched it happen . . . meanwhile Will became a gleam in his dad's eye.
Michele
I didn't notice the exit pointing either. But I did notice how Lindsey hemmed and hawed his way through the "Twisted" reunion... Gee, where was Kristen anyway? Neal probably could have used a hand there.
skcin
11-19-2010, 03:33 PM
Looks like the Frankenboks made an appearance long before the TISL Tour. :p
CADreaming
11-19-2010, 03:53 PM
Looks like the Frankenboks made an appearance long before the TISL Tour. :p
So did the bum hip, but who's paying attention? Oh, the camera man was...the closeup on the footwear was hysterical.
cliffdweller
11-19-2010, 04:51 PM
Is it just me, or does it look like Stevie is gently rocking back and forth during the entire interview? It was driving me crazy!
CADreaming
11-19-2010, 05:45 PM
Is it just me, or does it look like Stevie is gently rocking back and forth during the entire interview? It was driving me crazy!
She and Lindsey kept leaning into each other and she seemed to be adjusting her position - that's when I noticed her wince at one point when she moved her leg to get comfortable.
Villavic
11-19-2010, 05:49 PM
Yep...
I didn't notice the exit pointing either. But I did notice how Lindsey hemmed and hawed his way through the "Twisted" reunion... Gee, where was Kristen anyway? Neal probably could have used a hand there.
I think the Lindsey attitude toward Stevie, with the kisses and the cozy gestures are genuine, but anyway part of the "Silver Springs" looks and show we got at the Dance and the tour. I remember The Ledge in 1997 with all the rumours about Stevie and Lindsey coming back as a couple (our wishes) and comments about each show (Lindsey hug her! she rest her head on his shoulder!.. etc.).
It was a genuine feeling, I guess, but also a bit of a show, for the fans.
ragrsrocalot
11-19-2010, 05:56 PM
^ Rock a little, or at least the road case anyway. Yeah, definitely big time leanage going on.
CADreaming
11-19-2010, 06:24 PM
I think the Lindsey attitude toward Stevie, with the kisses and the cozy gestures are genuine, but anyway part of the "Silver Springs" looks and show we got at the Dance and the tour. I remember The Ledge in 1997 with all the rumours about Stevie and Lindsey coming back as a couple (our wishes) and comments about each show (Lindsey hug her! she rest her head on his shoulder!.. etc.).
It was a genuine feeling, I guess, but also a bit of a show, for the fans.
Well, to each his own, although I think that's a bit far-fetched. I mean, at that point in their lives, I don't think they would need to be quite so touchy feely with each other - "for the fans". You don't see John & Christine acting that way, for example. I mean, why would the fans suddenly be EXPECTING them to act lovey-dovey? I thought they couldn't stand each other for 20 years...lol
But, hey it is a debate that will go on for as long as they want it to, I guess...and that could be eternity...
So, I just calls 'em likes I sees 'em. :)
^ Rock a little, or at least the road case anyway. Yeah, definitely big time leanage going on.
:laugh::laugh::laugh: Love that!!
CreepingDeath
11-19-2010, 07:17 PM
Your time stamps are helpful. This weekend I will look at the clips again and use your guide to find things that I missed (like Stevie pointing out the exits). Who needs to shop for Thanksgiving, when I can do that?
He fell for her again, she watched it happen . . . meanwhile Will became a gleam in his dad's eye.
Michele
Fate has always been such a hideous bitch Goddess.
fairydust75
11-19-2010, 07:49 PM
I see alot of flirting especially on Lindsey's part in this interview. He is acting like a school boy with a crush. During Say You Will and Unleashed interviews you have none of that. Lindsey just sits there talking in circles about his visionary talent, praying Stevie doesn't say too much about her space cadet visions.:p
MacMan
11-19-2010, 07:57 PM
So did the bum hip, but who's paying attention? Oh, the camera man was...the closeup on the footwear was hysterical.
And it seemed like she briefly explaining to Mick why she had them on... and he said "I know"... but I couldn't make out what she was saying for him to say that or what it seemed Lindsey was saying about her shoes that caused her to explain why she had them on... It almost sounds like he was saying skeetchers or something like that. The camera was focused on Stevie, but Lindsey was making the comments about the shoes.
TrueFaith77
11-19-2010, 08:00 PM
1. Stevie's face starting about 9:01 in 1/4 :lol:
2. What happened to Christine's solo contract?
3. 11:41: "We didn't talk." :lol:
4. 2/4; 4:17: O M G
5. 2/4; 6:55: "Not Labour!"
MacMan
11-19-2010, 08:19 PM
Is Stevie whistling at the 7:06 minute mark in part 1. LOL Sure looks like it... and it's even a little audible.
jannieC
11-19-2010, 09:22 PM
Stevie seems SO aware of her appearance in all of these clips.
CADreaming
11-19-2010, 10:27 PM
And it seemed like she briefly explaining to Mick why she had them on... and he said "I know"... but I couldn't make out what she was saying for him to say that or what it seemed Lindsey was saying about her shoes that caused her to explain why she had them on... It almost sounds like he was saying skeetchers or something like that. The camera was focused on Stevie, but Lindsey was making the comments about the shoes.
Yeah, I couldn't make that out either...
Oh, whoever said Stevie was pointing at the exits - are you talking about when she was pointing at John when he was asked was this his favorite lineup of Fleetwood Mac? I think she was cautioning him to answer in the affirmative.
ragrsrocalot
11-19-2010, 11:03 PM
Yeah, I couldn't make that out either...
Oh, whoever said Stevie was pointing at the exits - are you talking about when she was pointing at John when he was asked was this his favorite lineup of Fleetwood Mac? I think she was cautioning him to answer in the affirmative.
I was talking about part 3 of the interview when they were asked if they were planning on recrafting any of the songs, and what might those songs be. She just kind of made hand motions that reminded me of a flight attendant. Like saying don't even go there type of thing.
CADreaming
11-19-2010, 11:46 PM
I was talking about part 3 of the interview when they were asked if they were planning on recrafting any of the songs, and what might those songs be. She just kind of made hand motions that reminded me of a flight attendant. Like saying don't even go there type of thing.
OH! Thanks for clarifying. :)
Villavic
11-20-2010, 07:40 AM
I don't think they would need to be quite so touchy feely with each other - "for the fans". You don't see John & Christine acting that way, for example. I mean, why would the fans suddenly be EXPECTING them to act lovey-dovey? I thought they couldn't stand each other for 20 years...lol
But, hey it is a debate that will go on for as long as they want it to, I guess...and that could be eternity...
Why S&L? Because they are Stevie and Lindsey. Chris and John didn't want to start the game. Because they are british? I don't know. I don't know if fans would have followed the game as with S&L.
Cause I do remember The Ledge during the Reunion tour in 1997, and there was a lot of theories about them (wishing) coming back. So many of us followed the game, as far as it was a game.
But as fairydust75 said, During Say You Will and Unleashed interviews you have none of that. So maybe the formula was too worn.
Anyway, as you say, it's a debate that will go on for eternity. how much real, how much show? We'll never know. I just add that many of us enjoyed that flirting during the show.
Villavic
11-20-2010, 07:43 AM
I was talking about part 3 of the interview when they were asked if they were planning on recrafting any of the songs, and what might those songs be. She just kind of made hand motions that reminded me of a flight attendant. Like saying don't even go there type of thing.
Since english is not my native language, I got a bit lost on the "recrafting" phrase.
To clarify, Were Big Love and Say you love me kind of recrafted at The Dance?
CADreaming
11-20-2010, 08:58 AM
Why S&L? Because they are Stevie and Lindsey. Chris and John didn't want to start the game. Because they are british? I don't know. I don't know if fans would have followed the game as with S&L.
I thought Christine & John started the game...they had been married for a few years before SnL ever joined.
But, the point is that no one would have expected Stevie & Lindsey to be "flirting" with one another during this time in their lives. If anything, fans would have expected them to act more like Christine & John, courteous co-workers with a history.
gldstwmn
11-20-2010, 12:16 PM
Lindsey's epitaph should include the quote "I was working on a solo record..."
CADreaming
11-20-2010, 12:18 PM
Lindsey's epitaph should include the quote "I was working on a solo record..."
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
gldstwmn
11-20-2010, 12:33 PM
Fate has always been such a hideous bitch Goddess.
I think I may have found a new signature line.
David
11-20-2010, 12:56 PM
They look a bit stiff but that's just due to the sudden shock (as they reiterate in the interviews) of what was happening.Lindsey Buckingham is trying his darnedest to be nice to Stevie Nicks, but she's curt & standoffish. She can be such a nice lady sometimes, & other times such a bitch. What is with her? All she has to do is stand there & play her stupid tambourine, & she gets millions for it, not to mention all the adulation. She acts so put-upon! Exscuuuuuuuuse us, Stevie.
And, Christine did look too thin.I don't think there's any such thing as "too thin." The other four look pudgy to me, like couch potatoes, whereas Chris looks sleek & controlled, like a speedboat.
CADreaming
11-20-2010, 01:09 PM
Lindsey Buckingham is trying his darnedest to be nice to Stevie Nicks, but she's curt & standoffish. She can be such a nice lady sometimes, & other times such a bitch. What is with her? All she has to do is stand there & play her stupid tambourine, & she gets millions for it, not to mention all the adulation. She acts so put-upon! Exscuuuuuuuuse us, Stevie.
I know! Damn her. :rolleyes:
Fleetwoodmark
11-20-2010, 01:14 PM
Lindsey Buckingham is trying his darnedest to be nice to Stevie Nicks, but she's curt & standoffish. She can be such a nice lady sometimes, & other times such a bitch. What is with her? All she has to do is stand there & play her stupid tambourine, & she gets millions for it, not to mention all the adulation. She acts so put-upon! Exscuuuuuuuuse us, Stevie.
I don't think there's any such thing as "too thin." The other four look pudgy to me, like couch potatoes, whereas Chris looks sleek & controlled, like a speedboat.
I really don't get Stevie's behaviour sometimes, contrast this interview with her actually on the The Dance DVD - she is so warm and just well normal. Was it the time of the month, who knows, but to have that attitude in the interview it just strange and offputting. Like others have said she is getting paid a pretty penny into the bargain - there is not so much to be down about.
Christine & John's behaviour should be an example to them.
Plus the thing she says about waking up one day and not being mad with any of them, excuse me Stevie but what have to been doing since the Dance - moaning about them all.
michelej1
11-20-2010, 02:25 PM
I don't think there's any such thing as "too thin." The other four look pudgy to me, like couch potatoes, whereas Chris looks sleek & controlled, like a speedboat.
Lindsey is definitely too pudgy. He is not attractive. I dont' wish anorexia on him. As he ages, the less flattering thinness is on him, but looking like he did when the Dance started is not the answer.
His face had lost all definition and distinction and -- did he not comb his hair the entire time?
He dresseed to hide the extra weight as if he was not happy about it himself. It fell off as the tour progressed. Even by the RRHOF he looked different. He has kept those pounds off ever since and I am grateful.
I have nothing against weight on others, but it just did not suit him.
John and Mick are interesting in that they carry their weight mostly in their stomachs. Lindsey's face was fleshy. Obviously, he was almost 50 and the spread is just something that comes with age and it's completely natural, but he lost the weight quite easily, so I'm not ashamed to be critical of it when it was there. If he hadn't lost it, then c'est la vie. I wouldn't criticize in that case.
Michele
michelej1
11-20-2010, 02:32 PM
Lindsey Buckingham is trying his darnedest to be nice to Stevie Nicks, but she's curt & standoffish. She can be such a nice lady sometimes, & other times such a bitch. What is with her? All she has to do is stand there & play her stupid tambourine, & she gets millions for it, not to mention all the adulation. She acts so put-upon! Exscuuuuuuuuse us, Stevie.
Stephen Colbert did a lovely, empassioned act regarding his excitement over the impending royal nuptials and your comments remind me of that.
Stevie is being a very good reserved girl and very much playing the little sister role that she has described herself as having within the band. Obviously, Christine's presence makes her fill that role, because when it is just the 4 of them, she is less the little sister and more the family's . . . sexy aunt.
When she was dancing and apologized because she didn't realize the camera was still rolling, it reminded me of the Tusk photo shoot where Christine says to her, "what are you doing? Get back in the picture."
Stevie once said that when the 5 of them are together, they feel so beautiful and powerful, as if they are in a movie with all eyes upon them. One of the Carradine brothers said this too, that when the 3 Carradines were together, walking into a bar, they were tough and invincible. There's something magical about answering and feeling as one, about becoming "we" again, when you've been individuals apart. Watching it happen makes me feel both rich and tearful.
Michele
michelej1
11-20-2010, 02:35 PM
Lindsey's epitaph should include the quote "I was working on a solo record..."
Honestly, this is too good to be a joke. If I am still alive when it happens, I will deface the tombstone to make sure that gets put on there.
Michele
sodascouts
11-20-2010, 04:22 PM
Just watched these. I agree Stevie and Lindsey seem "cozy" to say the least. Things are different now, obviously, but you gotta wonder if there wasn't something going on back in 1997 before he was a "family man."
The Brits are fun to watch, also. I too miss Chris. I never got to see the Mac as a five-piece live. I became a fan in 1998, just a tad too late. :(
bikerchic
11-20-2010, 04:49 PM
Does anyone know the name of the interviewer?
WelshWitchPMD
11-20-2010, 06:10 PM
These interviews are precious. I love all 5 of them but for me Stevie and Lindsey seem the most magical. I was just casually watching the clips but when Lindsey kisses Stevie's head I lost it. He just seems to care about her so much. It was so nice to see and made me feel sad at the same time. Stevie is the woman who will always have Lindsey's heart.
Not sure if anything was happening during the Dance tour but in Lindsey's mind it might have been.
David
11-20-2010, 07:18 PM
These interviews are precious. I love all 5 of them but for me Stevie and Lindsey seem the most magical. I was just casually watching the clips but when Lindsey kisses Stevie's head I lost it.Even after all these decades, you still feel that way? Amazing.
Marty
11-20-2010, 07:53 PM
Does anyone know the name of the interviewer?
I'm not sure, but it sounds like Chris Conelly (sp?) who was with MTV at the time. (And who BUTCHERED "The Wild Heart" in a Rolling Stone review when it came out- and you know Stevie had to remember that!) You never see him in the clips, but that sounds like his voice to me. I could be wrong, though.
vivfox
11-20-2010, 10:05 PM
I never got to see the Mac as a five-piece live. I became a fan in 1998, just a tad too late.
And then you created one of the best web sites EVER!!!
CADreaming
11-20-2010, 10:17 PM
And then you created one of the best web sites EVER!!!
Second that. I became a fan because of that website!!
bikerchic
11-21-2010, 11:08 AM
I'm not sure, but it sounds like Chris Conelly (sp?) who was with MTV at the time. (And who BUTCHERED "The Wild Heart" in a Rolling Stone review when it came out- and you know Stevie had to remember that!) You never see him in the clips, but that sounds like his voice to me. I could be wrong, though.
Okay thanks :) It sounds so familiar.
I'm not sure, but it sounds like Chris Conelly (sp?) who was with MTV at the time. (And who BUTCHERED "The Wild Heart" in a Rolling Stone review when it came out- and you know Stevie had to remember that!) You never see him in the clips, but that sounds like his voice to me. I could be wrong, though.
It was him. He also did a couple of one-on-one interviews for another segment. This is where he asked Stevie, "So, how many of the problems stemmed from your cocaine use?" Stevie answered, "Well it wasn't just MY cocaine use. It was EVERYONE'S cocaine use. I was NOT alone in that one." She didn't look too happy with that question. I don't think Chris was intentionally blaming Stevie personal coke use for all the problems of the band. Or, maybe he was. Whatever the case was, she set him straight!
ragrsrocalot
11-21-2010, 01:01 PM
It was him. He also did a couple of one-on-one interviews for another segment. This is where he asked Stevie, "So, how many of the problems stemmed from your cocaine use?" Stevie answered, "Well it wasn't just MY cocaine use. It was EVERYONE'S cocaine use. I was NOT alone in that one." She didn't look too happy with that question. I don't think Chris was intentionally blaming Stevie personal coke use for all the problems of the band. Or, maybe he was. Whatever the case was, she set him straight!
Here's that segment.
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sodascouts
11-23-2010, 03:44 AM
Thanks viv and CADreaming! You guys are sweet :)
CADreaming
11-23-2010, 07:37 AM
Thanks viv and CADreaming! You guys are sweet :)
It's true Nancy - I still refer to it constantly for research. Bang up job! Thanks for sharing it with us.
AnthonyMI
11-23-2010, 11:45 AM
I think this proves that Christine's hair in the Dance DVD was a "fall" or a wig or something. There is no way they had enough moose or volumizer to make her hair go from how it looks in this video to how it looked in the video. I feel cheated!
Oh, and it is also obvious that they used some effects on her voice for the Dance like autotuning. This performance, the Songbird from Classic Albums and all the live performances from Dance I have heard she is off key. They had to of used some mild pitch adjustment on her.
Not that I dont miss her. I just find if odd how everyone focuses on Stevie's voice when it was clear that they all aged.
OutsideTheRain
11-23-2010, 02:46 PM
I actually think there was a ton of post-production on The Dance, probably including recutting vocals. The same as Stevie's Soundstage. Live in Boston is the closest thing to how they really sound live.
AnthonyMI
11-23-2010, 03:06 PM
Right. I am sure that much of the Dance was prerecorded or re-recorded. That is just how it is done now. As much as we want to believe it just happened that way, we have mounds of pirate boot legs recordings proving that it never does. Even if it was recorded over two nights! Plus there is this odd clipped perfection to the sound of Chris singing that sounds like the same Autotune that is done on shows like Glee and most every other teenybopper (i.e. Taylor Swift) I just think Stevie had not reached that point yet where she needed it, like she did for Soundstage.
Fleetwoodmark
11-23-2010, 05:27 PM
Right. I am sure that much of the Dance was prerecorded or re-recorded. That is just how it is done now. As much as we want to believe it just happened that way, we have mounds of pirate boot legs recordings proving that it never does. Even if it was recorded over two nights! Plus there is this odd clipped perfection to the sound of Chris singing that sounds like the same Autotune that is done on shows like Glee and most every other teenybopper (i.e. Taylor Swift) I just think Stevie had not reached that point yet where she needed it, like she did for Soundstage.
Mate,
I've seen them twice and they performed to that standard both times ;)
Christopher
11-23-2010, 07:36 PM
I'm not sure, but it sounds like Chris Conelly (sp?) who was with MTV at the time. (And who BUTCHERED "The Wild Heart" in a Rolling Stone review when it came out- and you know Stevie had to remember that!) You never see him in the clips, but that sounds like his voice to me. I could be wrong, though.
Oh yes... Chris Connelly! He was so mean to Stevie and the whole Wild Heart album in general AND it was the featured album review of that RS edition. I can still vividly recall his harsh words. The only thing he praised was that Stevie was in top voice and then the rest was just horrid!
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