View Full Version : Could Lindsey sing some Christine songs if there is another tour?
A friend of mine is a respected music guru by those who know him. He has a really broad knowledge of rock music over the past few decades. Has attended endless concerts of many artists. I was delighted that he came to FM's Melbourne concert with me last year, that ended with us being right in front of Mama for Silver Springs at the end!
Anyway, today we were discussing the potential for another Mac tour and I felt that without being able to perform more of Christine's songs it would be difficult for them to do another tour so soon after Unleashed. I also feel that Stevie is limited in which Christine songs she can sing, due to her depleted range (which doesn't matter so much with her songs because we get the whole Stevie performance - you know what I mean).
My friend put to me that Lindsey is still such an awesome performer, still has such a great voice - could he perform some of Christine"s great songs?
What do people think? What songs would suit?
iamnotafraid
10-27-2010, 04:36 AM
What do people think? What songs would suit?
Think? NO!
Which? NONE!
ButterCookie
10-27-2010, 05:08 AM
Think? NO!
Which? NONE!
Word.
I don't want to even think about him singing her songs. She can sing them perfectly herself, she just chooses not to.
I legit cried when I saw the videos of Stevie singing Christine's songs and if I were to be put through it again by Liddy or Stevie, I'd just lose all hope in life.
I don't mind the different interpretations by other Mac members...I mean, there's a long history of the "new" people covering the "old" Mac songs. I will say that Stevie's lyric changes on "Don't Stop" are obnoxious.
Chris songs that I always felt could be covered...
Oh Daddy - Stevie
Think About Me - Lindsey
Brown Eyes - Stevie
Hold Me - Lindsey
Little Lies - Both
Isn't it Midnight - Either of them
Yes, without Chris' smooth voice, they would be totally different. It would add some variety to what is really a stale setlist.
GypsySorcerer
10-27-2010, 09:46 AM
The ONLY one I think could possibly work is Think About Me. But considering how many of Lindsey's own songs are never played, I'd rather hear one of his compositions. (Tango in the Night!!!)
Artemis
10-27-2010, 09:55 AM
I'd rather Stevie and Lindsey played some more of their own material than butchered Christine's, to be honest. >_>
ButterCookie
10-27-2010, 10:02 AM
I'd rather Stevie and Lindsey played some more of their own material than butchered Christine's, to be honest. >_>
Yep. I mean, drop Don't Stop and add SOTM PLEASE!
bluefox4000
10-27-2010, 10:15 AM
I love Lindsey but.........GOD NO!!!!!!!! and yes to SOTM and double yes to Tango in the Night:thumbsup:
Mick
MissLadyLoki
10-27-2010, 10:20 AM
Sorry, but Chris is a one-of-a-kind rocker chick. No one should go around covering her songs.
Anyways, Stevie and Lindsey should maybe bring up old-time tunes (Sisters of the Moon and Blue Letter) and maybe even some we never heard live (can't quite think of Stevie, but Tango in the Night! Imagine what Bucky could do with that live)
Or even better: dig up a few Buckingham Nicks tunes, especially Frozen Love :thumbsup:
chiliD
10-27-2010, 10:40 AM
...but Tango in the Night! Imagine what Bucky could do with that live)
What? Make it sound even MORE like "I'm So Afraid" than it already does? :shrug:
MissLadyLoki
10-27-2010, 10:59 AM
What? Make it sound even MORE like "I'm So Afraid" than it already does? :shrug:
*Gives it a listen* Yeah it does, but maybe he could make it sound like Come from Live in Boston
chiliD
10-27-2010, 11:33 AM
*Gives it a listen* Yeah it does, but maybe he could make it sound like Come from Live in Boston
And, that would be an improvement? :distress:
MissLadyLoki
10-27-2010, 12:22 PM
And, that would be an improvement? :distress:
I have no idea now. Maybe he shouldn't play it and do something else
chiliD
10-27-2010, 12:50 PM
I have no idea now. Maybe he shouldn't play it and do something else
Best idea yet. ;):D
Something like "Can't Go Back" or "Goodbye Angel" from the Mirage album sessions?
In regards to Lindsey singing Christine songs...
He already sings half of "Don't Stop", "Think About Me" & "Hold Me"...so why not just sing the whole song?
See? This is the problem with having concurrent solo careers while still trying to maintain a band profile, too. Myopic fans start identifying BAND songs with the individual songwriter. I don't care if Lindsey or Stevie sing one or more Christine songs in concert...those are Fleetwood Mac songs sung by Fleetwood Mac members. Sure, I dispise how Lindsey does "Oh Well", but I'd much prefer that the song be performed than not. So, if Lindsey ends up singing the ENTIRE "Don't Stop" (or any of the ones I mentioned earlier) that's great! I'd also like it if they also included a song by Danny Kirwan, Bob Welch, or any of the other ex-FMac songwriters, too. It's Fleetwood Mac material being done by Fleetwood Mac. If they don't want to do those songs, then go on a solo tour when you can limit your song selections to your own material.
TerraRhiannon
10-27-2010, 01:14 PM
Word.
I don't want to even think about him singing her songs. She can sing them perfectly herself, she just chooses not to.
I legit cried when I saw the videos of Stevie singing Christine's songs and if I were to be put through it again by Liddy or Stevie, I'd just lose all hope in life.
I have only watched one video of Stevie singing Christine's part on 'Just Stop,' and it was meh. I honestly tried to like it, but just could not. :(
jbrownsjr
10-27-2010, 02:45 PM
Linsdey and Stevie can barely sing their own songs let alone someone else's tunes...
jbrownsjr
10-27-2010, 02:47 PM
What? Make it sound even MORE like "I'm So Afraid" than it already does? :shrug:
haha!! he should do Big Love followed by Doin What I Can..
LiquidDiamonds
10-27-2010, 04:23 PM
I would like to hear Lindsey sing Sugar Daddy! :blob1:
michelej1
10-28-2010, 12:15 AM
Lindsey could sing a Christine song in concert, but I'd hope he'd do it better than he does his verses in Say You Love Me.
Michele
AliceLover
10-28-2010, 01:58 PM
Lindsey could sing a Christine song in concert, but I'd hope he'd do it better than he does his verses in Say You Love Me.
Michele
Agreed.
However, I loved that he played his turner for SYLM on the Unleashed tour. The riff he played on the "fallin fallin fallin" part was killer!
David
10-30-2010, 10:39 AM
Agreed.
However, I loved that he played his turner for SYLM on the Unleashed tour. The riff he played on the "fallin fallin fallin" part was killer!Was that the first time he ever played Turner on that song?
Nikolaj
10-30-2010, 11:23 AM
I would like to hear Lindsey sing Sugar Daddy! :blob1:
Aw, LiquidDiamonds beat me to it! LB would kill on Sugar Daddy!
MacShadowsBall
10-30-2010, 11:33 AM
Actually what FM should do is like a medley of some of Christine's hit songs.
Gailh
10-31-2010, 03:57 AM
As long as no one tries to do Songbird or You Make Lovin' Fun, which would cause me unimaginable pain, then they could have a bash at some of the others.
I'm not sure which ones though - perhaps Think About Me?
Gail
MissLadyLoki
10-31-2010, 07:53 AM
Actually what FM should do is like a medley of some of Christine's hit songs.
That? Right there? I love that idea :thumbsup:
As long as they keep away from a select few songs (Songbird, You make Loving Fun, etc.) they could do a bunch of her hits, such as Don't Stop, Think About Me, etc.
ButterCookie
10-31-2010, 09:54 AM
That? Right there? I love that idea :thumbsup:
As long as they keep away from a select few songs (Songbird, You make Loving Fun, etc.) they could do a bunch of her hits, such as Don't Stop, Think About Me, etc.
Last time, the results of Don't Stop were nothing short of disasterous, though.
MissLadyLoki
10-31-2010, 10:15 AM
Last time, the results of Don't Stop were nothing short of disasterous, though.
it was just an example song, but maybe they could try their hand at Hold Me. And leave Everywhere alone.
MacShadowsBall
10-31-2010, 02:12 PM
Yeah just take 4 or so songs, highlight a verse and the chorus, give props and a shout out to Christine, and move on to "Gold Dust Woman" or whatever! :rolleyes:
The already done "Say You Love Me" and "Don't Stop", just add something from Tusk and Tango. :)
MissLadyLoki
10-31-2010, 02:18 PM
Yeah just take 4 or so songs, highlight a verse and the chorus, give props and a shout out to Christine, and move on to "Gold Dust Woman" or whatever! :rolleyes:
The already done "Say You Love Me" and "Don't Stop", just add something from Tusk and Tango. :)
For Tusk, they could do Think About Me, for Tango, they could do Little Lies, and for Mirage, they could do Hold Me. A little snippet of each song and a a bit of a talk beforehand about her.
ButterCookie
10-31-2010, 02:20 PM
For Tusk, they could do Think About Me, for Tango, they could do Little Lies, and for Mirage, they could do Hold Me. A little snippet of each song and a bit of a talk beforehand about her.
She hasn't died :lol:
MacShadowsBall
10-31-2010, 02:39 PM
She hasn't died :lol:
I see it as more of acknowledging her work in the band and the contributions that she made...maybe they could give a funny story about Christine...or something. :D
ButterCookie
10-31-2010, 02:47 PM
Peter, Jeremy, Danny, Bob Welch and everyone don't get a little talk, though :shrug:
MacShadowsBall
10-31-2010, 02:49 PM
True, but they weren't in the band for 27 years and contribute to the band multiple top 10 hits. :shrug:
ButterCookie
10-31-2010, 02:54 PM
No, but the first three only formed it :p
MacShadowsBall
10-31-2010, 03:02 PM
Does Lindsey still perform "Oh Well" at FM concerts? That would be a good time for him and Mick to talk abit about FM's origins as a blues band. :cool:
MissLadyLoki
10-31-2010, 03:10 PM
Does Lindsey still perform "Oh Well" at FM concerts? That would be a good time for him and Mick to talk abit about FM's origins as a blues band. :cool:
Yeah he does. He gives his own spin on it, but they never talk about it to my knowledge.
EDIT: Listen guys, I'm not as die-hard a fan as many of you are, so please don't slay me with my opinions
ButterCookie
10-31-2010, 03:16 PM
Does Lindsey still perform "Oh Well" at FM concerts? That would be a good time for him and Mick to talk abit about FM's origins as a blues band. :cool:
No, I think they stopped him after last time :laugh:
MacShadowsBall
10-31-2010, 03:19 PM
Fleetwood Mac really should do at least 1 "Pre-Rumours" era song, or how about a blues medley!
Though, I suppose that conversion would be more fitting in the Pre-Rumours forum. :)
MissLadyLoki
10-31-2010, 05:08 PM
Fleetwood Mac really should do at least 1 "Pre-Rumours" era song, or how about a blues medley!
Though, I suppose that conversion would be more fitting in the Pre-Rumours forum. :)
Maybe they should do a blues medly. Throw in bits of Oh Well, Green Manalishi, Rattlesnake Shake (I can't even begin to imagine what Lindsey would do while performing it :lol:) and maybe even throw in a few good Bob Welch tunes, like Hypnotized and Emerald Eyes (yeah, I discovered Mystery to Me for the first time recently, and I loved it)
AliceLover
10-31-2010, 08:42 PM
Was that the first time he ever played Turner on that song?
No, it wasn't. He played it on the Tusk tour. However, when I heard that they were doing SYLM for the 2009 tour, I thought we were going to have to sit through that awful banjo rendition. I like that Lindsey brought the track back to its original version. Even if it was toned down a bit (ie, different vocals, lighter drumming etc), the guitar part was still rockin. I can't say that I like Stevie or Lindsey doing Christine's songs, but I have to say, SYLM came across nicely.
MacShadowsBall
10-31-2010, 10:12 PM
No, it wasn't. He played it on the Tusk tour. However, when I heard that they were doing SYLM for the 2009 tour, I thought we were going to have to sit through that awful banjo rendition. I like that Lindsey brought the track back to its original version. Even if it was toned down a bit (ie, different vocals, lighter drumming etc), the guitar part was still rockin. I can't say that I like Stevie or Lindsey doing Christine's songs, but I have to say, SYLM came across nicely.
Say You Love Me is one of my favorite songs, regardless of the arrangement or who sings it. I guess changing these songs up keeps them fresh and not as boring, not neccessarily for us, but more towards Stevie/Lindsey.
daniellaaarisen
10-31-2010, 10:20 PM
Rattlesnake Shake (I can't even begin to imagine what Lindsey would do while performing it :lol:)
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PenguinHead
11-03-2010, 05:56 AM
It's not a question of whether Lindsey could sing Christine's songs, but rather a question of "Why should he?" I have absolutely no interest in hearing Lindsey or Stevie "covering" Christine's songs in concert. If I ever get a chance to attend another show, I'd rather hear new songs, or songs they have never/rarely done.
Many fans (including myself), have been critical of the band for being stuck in the past, especially stagnent set lists. Adding Christine songs the mix just drives that point home.
Granted, I liked that Lindsey gives a nod to the past blues-era with 'Oh Well." So in that vein, one Christine song would be acceptable. I just wish it wasn't such an obvious choice, i.e. Say You Love Me or Don't Stop. A recasted deep album track would be more tasteful, and offer less critiicism /comparision to the original version.
Sahara
11-11-2010, 06:14 PM
I'm not a die hard Chris fan, so I would sooner see Lindsey and Stevie do more of their own stuff rather than throw more old songs into the mix :sorry:
Though I must say I absolutely loved what they did with SYLM on Unleashed. Maybe it was just that hand gesture spidery-fingered thing Lindsey did that left me in a giggling mess at his feet :o but it was a great treatment, imo.
I'll give my first born child to anyone who can provide a GIF of same, by the way :thumbsup:
iamnotafraid
11-11-2010, 08:41 PM
I have absolutely no interest in hearing Lindsey or Stevie "covering" Christine's songs in concert.
Yes indeed, I feel the very same way about that.
Though I wouldn't mind them opening up the show with
Green Manalishi.
The Chain needs to be retired.
bucklind17
11-11-2010, 08:57 PM
I'm not a die hard Chris fan, so I would sooner see Lindsey and Stevie do more of their own stuff rather than throw more old songs into the mix :sorry:
Though I must say I absolutely loved what they did with SYLM on Unleashed. Maybe it was just that hand gesture spidery-fingered thing Lindsey did that left me in a giggling mess at his feet :o but it was a great treatment, imo.
I'll give my first born child to anyone who can provide a GIF of same, by the way :thumbsup:
Pretty much this exactly. It's not that I don't want them to do Chris' songs because I think they should be left untouched, I think it would be pretty interesting to see what they do with her songs. But, for that to happen, that's less of their own material that they can play, and that's material they are more comfortable singing and will sound better. The idea of shoehorning in Chris songs because people want to hear them, regardless of who exactly is performing them, bugs me but the simple fact is a person who isn't a big fan of Fleetwood Mac isn't going to care WHO sings "Say You Love Me", just that it's a Fleetwood Mac song and they went to a Fleetwood Mac concert and it was played. Doesn't mean it SHOULD happen, but I don't think it would be so horrible if it did, just like "Say You Love Me" on Unleashed, imo, was not horrible and "Don't Stop" without Chris is not horrible.
Granted, I liked that Lindsey gives a nod to the past blues-era with 'Oh Well." So in that vein, one Christine song would be acceptable. I just wish it wasn't such an obvious choice, i.e. Say You Love Me or Don't Stop. A recasted deep album track would be more tasteful, and offer less critiicism /comparision to the original version.
I have to be honest, I think in the case of "Don't Stop," they don't even think of it as a "Chris song" anymore. Obviously she wrote it, but I think they consider Don't Stop to be a "band song" at this point, a signature FM tune...I doubt they think, "oh let's pay homage to Chris and play that old tune of hers." Pretty much, it's going to be part of any FM concert...regardless of who is singing it. On the lines of The Chain and possibly Go Your Own Way.
I've always wanted them each to do one Chris song, rearranged to work for each of them...Lindsey on Hold Me or Little Lies; Stevie on Oh Daddy or Brown Eyes.
I never bought into the fact that Lindsey should only play/sing Lindsey songs, etc. It's great when the 2009 version of Fleetwood Mac starts playing Oh Well, regardless of the opinion that "Peter Green's is better" (of course it was, completely different guitar/voice and uh, it was 40 years ago!). The only thing I don't care for is taking a song like Don't Stop, a sing-a-long song where everyone knows the words, and then Stevie goes and hacks the verse up with grammatically ridiculous wording.
Sahara
11-13-2010, 07:46 AM
the simple fact is a person who isn't a big fan of Fleetwood Mac isn't going to care WHO sings "Say You Love Me", just that it's a Fleetwood Mac song and they went to a Fleetwood Mac concert and it was played.
I think you're right. The people who are going to a concert to hear Christine songs are the people who know she won't be in attendance. :nod:
PenguinHead
11-15-2010, 06:23 PM
Idealy, I hope when they tour again they have new songs to perform, and they completey mix up the set list -- like having Dreams or The Chain at the end of set. Their predicatiblity has become fixed and monotanous. The element of surprise is practically nil!
If they feel the need to include some staple songs they've been performing for 20 years, at the very least, change the order to make it seemingly fresh.
And regarding Christine's songs, I think perfoming "Little Lies," "Brown Eyes," or "Hold Me" would be nice. These are songs that haven't been beatened down and overplayed through the years.
The idea of the mindset/desire to satisfy casual fans who might feel disappointed by the absence of particular songs like "Say You Love Me" or "Don't Stop" perplexes me. The die-hard fans are the ones they (and we) should be thinking about!!! They are an old band with long-time followers -- they don't have to placate and play a mass of casual /new fans --- just put on a good, fresh new show! Casual fans be dammed! If they truely like music and appreciate a great band...A good show is a good show....whatever is performed. It shouldn't be a fu*king juke box....where people expect that that certain songs HAVE to be performed.
If Fleetwood Mac decided to ditch all of their played-to-death material in favor of a bunch of new songs, covers, and deep album tracks...that's the show I'd want to see!!:blob2:
If Fleetwood Mac decided to ditch all of their played-to-death material in favor of a bunch of new songs, covers, and deep album tracks...that's the show I'd want to see!!:blob2:
I don't even think they have to get rid of ALL of the warhorses, but just moving some things around and getting some obscure tunes mixed in would be pretty solid. Imagine something odd like this...I don't think anyone could bitch about the setlist anymore:
Tango in the Night
Seven Wonders
Blue Letter
I Don't Want to Know
Angel
That's Enough for Me
Oh Well
Sara
I'm So Afraid
Book of Love
When I See You Again
Brown Eyes (Stevie)
Hold Me (Lindsey)
Dreams
Peacekeeper
Thrown Down
Rhiannon
Tusk
Sisters of the Moon
Go Your Own Way
The Chain
Don't Stop
Frozen Love
ally3
11-15-2010, 08:07 PM
I don't even think they have to get rid of ALL of the warhorses, but just moving some things around and getting some obscure tunes mixed in would be pretty solid. Imagine something odd like this...I don't think anyone could bitch about the setlist anymore:
Tango in the Night
Seven Wonders
Blue Letter
I Don't Want to Know
Angel
That's Enough for Me
Oh Well
Sara
I'm So Afraid
Book of Love
When I See You Again
Brown Eyes (Stevie)
Hold Me (Lindsey)
Dreams
Peacekeeper
Thrown Down
Rhiannon
Tusk
Sisters of the Moon
Go Your Own Way
The Chain
Don't Stop
Frozen Love
I LOVE your choices!! They definitely need to do some more "non-hits." I would also love to hear to some more Lindsey Tusk songs, but that might be more for his solo. And Frozen Love for the closing would be genius. Crystal (with Stevie back up) would also be great; I'm like John, that's my favorite.
cliffdweller
11-16-2010, 10:19 AM
The ONLY one I think could possibly work is Think About Me.
This would sound great!! However, Lindsey isn't really interested in singing anyone's songs but his own, and really, who could blame him?
TerraRhiannon
11-16-2010, 10:22 AM
Hold Me (Lindsey)
This right here. a-maz-ing. I'm a sucker for him singing this.
Sahara
11-16-2010, 12:36 PM
I don't even think they have to get rid of ALL of the warhorses, but just moving some things around and getting some obscure tunes mixed in would be pretty solid. Imagine something odd like this...I don't think anyone could bitch about the setlist anymore:
Tango in the Night
Seven Wonders
Blue Letter
I Don't Want to Know
Angel
That's Enough for Me
Oh Well
Sara
I'm So Afraid
Book of Love
When I See You Again
Brown Eyes (Stevie)
Hold Me (Lindsey)
Dreams
Peacekeeper
Thrown Down
Rhiannon
Tusk
Sisters of the Moon
Go Your Own Way
The Chain
Don't Stop
Frozen Love
Nobody could complain about that. It's not the ultimate fantasy playlist for most people, I think, but it's certainly within the bounds of possibility if the band got brave enough :) I love your choices, particularly the SYW tracks.
Nobody could complain about that. It's not the ultimate fantasy playlist for most people, I think, but it's certainly within the bounds of possibility if the band got brave enough :) I love your choices, particularly the SYW tracks.
Yeah, I wasn't really going for the "What's the most ultimate fantasy" setlist, but, what's completely a fantasy, but if the band had even a small set of balls, what could they actually pull off.
I covered a ton of bases while still holding to their 23 song formula...
The obscure completely off the wall opener...
The forgotten but somewhat popular...Seven Wonders, Sisters, Blue Letter
The never before played tunes...
The last Rumours tune to never be played live by the Mac...
The Chris covers...
The Buckingham Nicks cover...
The pre-1975 cover...
Each "Rumours era" album represented...
and of course, Dreams, Rhiannon, Tusk, Go Your Own Way, The Chain, Don't Stop, Sara, and I'm So Afraid
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