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MacShadowsBall
10-10-2010, 03:56 PM
Mirage has arrived! Here's the first discussion thread, focusing on Christine's songs from this oft-forgotten about album.
Songs up for discussions...
1. Love in Store
2. Only Over You
3. Hold Me
4. Wish You Were Here
Should "Hold Me" count as Christine or collaboration due to it being a duet w/Lindsey? :shrug:
HejiraNYC
10-10-2010, 04:07 PM
Mirage has arrived! Here's the first discussion thread, focusing on Christine's songs from this oft-forgotten about album.
Songs up for discussions...
1. Love in Store
2. Only Over You
3. Hold Me
4. Wish You Were Here
Should "Hold Me" count as Christine or collaboration due to it being a duet w/Lindsey? :shrug:
Can we just forego the pretense and select "Hold Me" as the winner already? None of her other Mirage songs come even remotely close. In fact, with the exception of HM, I think this is her weakest batch of songs ever.
louielouie2000
10-10-2010, 04:32 PM
with the exception of HM, I think this is her weakest batch of songs ever.
I tend to agree... though this being Christine, these set of songs are still very solid.
Love In Store: Blah. Just boring. It's a typical Christine foot-tapping melody, it's just kinda dull and lifeless.
Only Over You: I actually really like this song. I love how it abruptly starts with her vocal, right in the middle of the chorus. Kinda turning typical song formula on it's head. I think the harmonies on this one are very lush and beautiful as well.
Hold Me: Definitely one of the top Mac songs of all time. Whenever I hear this song, it instantly brightens my mood. It's so bubbly and foot tapping.
Wish You Were Here: Even though pretty much everything about this song is cliche, I still like it. It's beautiful to listen to. I especially enjoy the long outtro.
Dang... now I've gotta pull out Mirage for a listen! :D
MissLadyLoki
10-10-2010, 04:37 PM
I gotta come out and say it: I don't like Mirage. Even though it does have a few great songs, they could keep the rest. I find it quite bland, but look on the bright side: that next year, Stevie gave us the awesomeness that is Wild Heart
1. Love in Store- I kinda like it. Fun, catchy, and made even better by Joan the Wench's 4th of July vid on YouTube (she puts up fireworks everytime the Brits appeared)
2. Only Over You- It reminds me of Mystified from Tango in the Night being slow and boring
3. Hold Me- One of Chris's best songs to date. Great harmonies with Lindsey and a music vid that makes me crack up (orry, but Stevie walking around a desert in heels, a red dress, and randomly lays down on a chaise lounge is kinda funny)
4. Wish You Were Here- Sorry, to me, this'll always be one of Pink Floyd's best songs, not for Christine
luckydimecaper
10-10-2010, 05:23 PM
Love in Store - Love the chorus in this one, so sweet and catchy :)
Only Over You - I really really like this song. The whole sound of it is like a throwback to some of the Tusk songs. Especially 'Walk a Thin Line'.
Hold Me - Another great pop classic from Chris!
WYWH - Meh.
bluefox4000
10-10-2010, 05:50 PM
Christine's songs on Mirage.
Love in Store-Fun catchy...just ok. It is rather stock Chris Right? Just ok.
Only Over You- This is a stinker. Just boring. It's a song that just sits there and goes nowhere. No Likey:D
Hold Me- Easily her best on the album. I love that she duets with Lindsey on this. They, to my ears, blend great. Fantastic Song.
Wish you were Here- It's cheesy soft and sappy.........I can't help like it though...:laugh: When the piano starts I can't help but think for half a second that Silver Springs has started.
I had to re-listen to these songs as i rarely RARELY spin Mirage. My least favorite Rumours era album.
Mick
tilthefirefades
10-10-2010, 07:25 PM
This has become my favorite FM album, I can't believe no one else loves it :shocked:
Love in Store-One of my favorite songs!
Hold Me-Probably my favorite Chris song ever, just a beautiful song that was never done justice live.
Wish You Were Here-A pretty good song, nothing special though.
Only Over You- :confused:
michelej1
10-10-2010, 08:38 PM
I actually like this batch of songs better than her Tusk showing. Of course, I like Hold Me best, as it is one of my favorite FM songs overall. I'd like to close my eyes, fall back and sink into its layers. But I don't think any of Christine's Mirage songs are bad. Also, as I've said many times, I listened to this album on vinyl and I loved the way her songs closed each side of the LP. Fittiing lullabyes each.
Michele
GypsySorcerer
10-10-2010, 09:22 PM
While Christine is usually pleasant, this is my least favorite batch of songs from her.
Hold Me: My definite favorite. When that chorus hits, it's like a ray of sunshine.
Love in Store: Not bad, but :shrug:
Wish You Were Here: Schmaltz, but I love the long outro.
Only Over You: The only song of hers I truly despise. (Well, that and One More Night). The moment she begins with, "I'm out of my mind," I hit the skip button.
EnchantedKiwi
10-10-2010, 09:57 PM
Can we just forego the pretense and select "Hold Me" as the winner already? None of her other Mirage songs come even remotely close. In fact, with the exception of HM, I think this is her weakest batch of songs ever.
Second that. :nod:
Kayli
10-10-2010, 10:39 PM
My ears can hear "Hold Me" all day and night. I LOVE that song. The rest of her Mirage tracks are really pretty, however, if I had to vote on Christine's weakest material (that is for lack of a better word. I don't think any of her songs could be considered weak), I'd have to say "Wish You Were Here" and "Only Over You" would be it. "Love in Store" is totally fun. It doesn't hold a candle to "Hold Me" but it's awesome on its own.
holidayroad
10-11-2010, 07:39 AM
This has become my favorite FM album, I can't believe no one else loves it :shocked:
Love in Store-One of my favorite songs!
Hold Me-Probably my favorite Chris song ever, just a beautiful song that was never done justice live.
Wish You Were Here-A pretty good song, nothing special though.
Only Over You- :confused:
I love Mirage!!! It never gets enough credit! I enjoy all of Christine's songs on the album, even though 'Wish You Were Here' could have been shorter.
ryan4136
10-11-2010, 09:29 PM
First I'll give a little Mirage run down before we break down these tunes.
A lot of lukewarm feelings towards this album so far, and probably justifiably so. When I hear Mirage, I sigh a little thinking about what could've been on this album. To me this always sounds like an album that was only 2/3 of the way done. But with the double album of tusk, and some solo work the artists were just running on empty for album quality material. Imagine if Tusk had been a single, or the solo albums had been pushed back what it would've sounded like. Imagine for a minute if in the tusk sessions they had to choose between a beautiful child and a storms, or LB put trouble on this album, or if Brown eyes got the bump to this album, or a little edge of seventeen? I hear the album and I hear some greatness, surrounded with average or leftover tunes.....very sad.
Love in store....to me this sounds a bit like a leftover song, generic in it's form. As an opener it gets your feet tapping, but it doesn't draw you in like any of the previous openers...even Over and Over (which I love) makes you say "What's going on with this album" Love in store doesn't make you think at all. With that said it has a decent sing a long quality. It fits better on the road than in the studio. I do find the backing vocals a solid add in, but this feels like a bare bones song that for FM is borderline filler.
Only Over You....I will say at first I really didn't like this song. I wondered how in the world this ever made the cut. I had to force myself to listen to this for a while. Then it was obvious and it makes much more sense. The dedication to Dennis Wilson cleared it all up. I'm not much of Dennis Wilson fan as a solo artist. But if you sit down and listen, OOY has a very similar tempo to many of his songs. It also has a brooding meloncholic feel, which is exactly what DW portrays in nearly every song. I don't know the DW catalog well enough to know if OOY is actually a response to one of his songs or not. It's clear that CM, and probably LB are attempting thier best DW impression, and they hit it pretty spot on. With all that said...I still really don't find it melodically attractive, but I find it a solid artistic attempt to pay homage.
Hold Me---probably nearly everyones favorite, not just for CM, but for the Mac on this album. Great upbeat song, one of the best duets you'll find in pop music. JM's bass in this song doesn't get the credit it deserves, the transitions seem flawless here. I'm always left wanting to press repeat, but I can't help but feeling that it could've used another verse...2 minutes of Hold Me, Hold Me etc.....I get it...I'll hold you.
Wish you were here.......2 things.....great outro........you already wrote songbird...why must we keep trying to write another one.
kokoro
10-12-2010, 01:05 PM
Mirage is a pretty lukewarm album for me. I actually enjoy about four songs and kind of like three others. Hate is certainly a word I would never use for a Christine song, or really even dislike, but indifference is definitely a word to use. That's how I feel about most of Christine's songs on Mirage.
Love in Store: Really not a fan of this one. And I always hear her say "we got love in a store," which makes me think of buying love at a convenient store. :shrug:
Only Over You: I feel kind of like a jerk for saying it, but it's boring and unremarkable.
Hold Me: The only thing I like are the fabulous harmonies. But I'm glad this song exists, because the video? So utterly awesome. They all look so drop dead gorgeous in it!
Wish You Were Here: My favorite of this set. I love the piano (despite it starting off similar to Silver Springs) and those background ooo, ooo, ooos are really catchy.
chiliD
10-12-2010, 03:27 PM
......you already wrote songbird...why must we keep trying to write another one.
With that logic, she'd already written "Show Me A Smile"...why did she need to write "Songbird"? :shrug:
MacShadowsBall
10-12-2010, 06:26 PM
Should we count "Hold Me" for Christine or collaboration?
If it goes to Christine, I'll be with her other 3 songs. :shrug:
If it goes for collaboration, it will automatically qualify in the Favorite Mirage songs poll, along with the winner of Christine's other songs from Mirage. Keep in mind if it counts as a collaboration it will eventually battle "World Turning, "The Chain" and any other songs deemed a collaboration. :confused:
MacShadowsBall
10-13-2010, 08:53 PM
Well nobody replied yet to my earlier post, but I'm thinking about counting "Hold Me" as collaboration. :shrug:
nailatixela
10-13-2010, 09:27 PM
I don't think it should be a collaboration. The only part Lindsey has is own vocal is "come on and" He didn't help write it.
michelej1
10-13-2010, 10:32 PM
Well nobody replied yet to my earlier post, but I'm thinking about counting "Hold Me" as collaboration. :shrug:
Yes, it's not a collaboration.
Michele
jbrownsjr
10-14-2010, 09:10 AM
Well nobody replied yet to my earlier post, but I'm thinking about counting "Hold Me" as collaboration. :shrug:
Hold Me, Don't Stop, and Think About Me... are all Christine as writer.. just LB on the vocals...
World Turning, Mystified, Isn't It Midnight are penned Buckingham/McVie as the writers..
TrueFaith77
10-14-2010, 09:51 AM
Well nobody replied yet to my earlier post, but I'm thinking about counting "Hold Me" as collaboration. :shrug:
:mad:
With that logic, she'd already written "Show Me A Smile"...why did she need to write "Songbird"? :shrug:
...because she perfected it with "Songbird."
MacShadowsBall
10-14-2010, 12:24 PM
Thanks for your input. I'll count "Hold Me" as Stevie... I mean Christine! :laugh:
aleuzzi
10-14-2010, 11:51 PM
Why so many negative comments about Love in Store? Am I going crazy here? The song is, to my way of thinking, the best tune on the album--pure pop thats drenched in all these great catchy harmonies. It's so fun and so believable. I actually feel that magic of new love every time I hear it.
Incidentally, most critics at the time thought Christine's songs were the strongest on the album.
aleuzzi
10-14-2010, 11:53 PM
World Turning, Mystified, Isn't It Midnight are penned Buckingham/McVie as the writers..
As is Little Lies (along with Eddie Q). But I'm thinking those tango collaborations were mainly Christine germinations, whereas World Turning seems like both writers began from scratch and worked it out together.
michelej1
10-15-2010, 10:07 PM
Lindsey's not a writer on Little Lies and not on Isn't it Midnight either. They did write Ricky together and You and I, Part II
I was surprised to read an interview where Chris said Lindsey did the Mystified lyrics and she did the music. Reverse on You and I. The Mystified words are not only feminine, but more tender than Lindsey usually is.
Michele
Nikolaj
10-15-2010, 10:52 PM
Only Over You: The only song of hers I truly despise. (Well, that and One More Night). The moment she begins with, "I'm out of my mind," I hit the skip button, wrote GypsySorcerer.
Haha- reminds me of a funny thread a year or more ago- so many of us seemed to have cringed at Christine's 'I'm out of my mind' reading- and thought we were the only ones, and there were tons of us. The Ledge sure can make ya feel less lonely!
What is it about Christine singing that line? The inflection, I think, the sort of fluttery falsetto (or is it?), it's kind of like chalk on a blackboard! Somehow, from Christine it doesn't 'ring true' at all--
I'd totally believe Stevie singing 'I'm out of my mind'--
Christine's persona just seemed too 'cool, calm and collected' emotionally, or too stable, to pull that song off.
I think Miss Rock A Little with her Wild Heart would've been spellbinding on the vocal ...."People say I'm crazy..." Of course, they did!
I think it's a case of Christine having written a song that would have been great had Stevie sung it! (I'm out of my mind, well, baby, and its only, you know, over-over you- I'm still out of my mind, baby, well, well well, still I am out...of my mind, baby, and it's only over you!)
vivfox
10-15-2010, 11:06 PM
Only Over You:
Haha- reminds me of a funny thread a year or more ago- so many of us seemed to have cringed at Christine's 'I'm out of my mind' reading- and thought we were the only ones, and there were tons of us. The Ledge sure can make ya feel less lonely!
I think it's a case of Christine having written a song that would have been great had Stevie sung it! (I'm out of my mind, well, baby, and its only, you know, over-over you- I'm still out of my mind, baby, well, well well, still I am out...of my mind, baby, and it's only over you!
ROTFL! I knew you wouldn't stay away for long. The "house on top 'o me" one has returned also.
aleuzzi
10-16-2010, 12:30 AM
Lindsey's not a writer on Little Lies and not on Isn't it Midnight either. They did write Ricky together and You and I, Part II
I was surprised to read an interview where Chris said Lindsey did the Mystified lyrics and she did the music. Reverse on You and I. The Mystified words are not only feminine, but more tender than Lindsey usually is.
Michele
You're right about Little Lies. That's Just Christine and Eddie. But if you look at the songwriting credits on Tango it says the music for Isn't It Midnight was written by Christine, Eddie, and Lindsey, with lyrics by Christine.
I am interested in what Christine or Lindsey said about lyric/music credits on Mystified and You and I. The credits for neither of those songs makes distinction as to who did what in the collaboration, whereas such distinctions are made on Isn't it Midnight. Such distinctions are also made on Seven Wonders and Family Man. Strange, indeed.
michelej1
10-16-2010, 01:31 AM
You're right about Little Lies. That's Just Christine and Eddie. But if you look at the songwriting credits on Tango it says the music for Isn't It Midnight was written by Christine, Eddie, and Lindsey, with lyrics by Christine.
Oh yes, I see that you're correct on those credits.
Michele
APerfectLie
10-16-2010, 01:32 AM
Love In Store- I really like this song actually. However, I think Stevie does it better. I actually wish they would have pulled it out during Unleashed.
Hold Me- Christ, I never knew so many people loved this song. Don't get me wrong, I like it, it's catchy, and I usually listen to it if it happens to pop up, but it has never been one of my favorites. I can't say that I ever intentionally play hold me unless I am in some weird ass mood.
Wish You Were Here- I simply CANNOT listen to this song and not think of Silver Springs. But it's alright.
Only Over You- Such a bummer to have this song come after Gypsy. Gypsy is fun and amazing and then this comes along and is just bleh.
I have to say, I think Christine's songs on Tusk are far superior to her songs on Mirage and her songs on Tango take the cake.
vivfox
10-16-2010, 09:04 AM
Love In Store- I really like this song actually. However, I think Stevie does it better. I actually wish they would have pulled it out during Unleashed.
Hold Me- Christ, I never knew so many people loved this song. Don't get me wrong, I like it, it's catchy, and I usually listen to it if it happens to pop up, but it has never been one of my favorites. I can't say that I ever intentionally play hold me unless I am in some weird ass mood.
Wish You Were Here- I simply CANNOT listen to this song and not think of Silver Springs. But it's alright.
Only Over You- Such a bummer to have this song come after Gypsy. Gypsy is fun and amazing and then this comes along and is just bleh.
I have to say, I think Christine's songs on Tusk are far superior to her songs on Mirage and her songs on Tango take the cake.
Wow, I agree with ALL of this except I am confused about Love in Store. Do you have a recording of just Stevie singing it?
holidayroad
10-16-2010, 12:16 PM
Only Over You: The only song of hers I truly despise. (Well, that and One More Night). The moment she begins with, "I'm out of my mind," I hit the skip button, wrote GypsySorcerer.
Haha- reminds me of a funny thread a year or more ago- so many of us seemed to have cringed at Christine's 'I'm out of my mind' reading- and thought we were the only ones, and there were tons of us. The Ledge sure can make ya feel less lonely!
What is it about Christine singing that line? The inflection, I think, the sort of fluttery falsetto (or is it?), it's kind of like chalk on a blackboard! Somehow, from Christine it doesn't 'ring true' at all--
I'd totally believe Stevie singing 'I'm out of my mind'--
Christine's persona just seemed too 'cool, calm and collected' emotionally, or too stable, to pull that song off.
I think Miss Rock A Little with her Wild Heart would've been spellbinding on the vocal ...."People say I'm crazy..." Of course, they did!
I think it's a case of Christine having written a song that would have been great had Stevie sung it! (I'm out of my mind, well, baby, and its only, you know, over-over you- I'm still out of my mind, baby, well, well well, still I am out...of my mind, baby, and it's only over you!)
I agree it has 'Stevie' lyrics, but I always took it as Chris saying 'Look, this isn't usually me, but I'm so in love with this person that I feel that way this time around. Still, don't think I'll let him treat me badly, I may be totally in love, "but I'm not a fool".'
michelej1
10-16-2010, 12:59 PM
I agree it has 'Stevie' lyrics, but I always took it as Chris saying 'Look, this isn't usually me, but I'm so in love with this person that I feel that way this time around. Still, don't think I'll let him treat me badly, I may be totally in love, "but I'm not a fool".'
Actually, Christine's lyrics always have her being overcome by love and loss. Her lyrics are more dependent than she actually is. She is often passive in love, used, lyrically. Whether she is usually "out of her mind" is a different story, but I always loved the song. I don't see the difference between being out of her mind and over her head.
Being an Ozzie and Harriet collector, I always loved it that Kristen Nelson Tinker (Rick Nelson's ex) named her book "Out of My Mind." It wasn't a nod to Christine, but it always reminded me of that song.
Michele
APerfectLie
10-16-2010, 07:50 PM
Wow, I agree with ALL of this except I am confused about Love in Store. Do you have a recording of just Stevie singing it?
OH how I wish I did! But alas, I do not. However, in the ever amazing Rolling Stone video of her singing Wild Heart, she starts singing Love In Store and then goes into Wild Heart. She doesn't sing much of it, but what she does sing has always made me long for a full version of her singing it!
Love In Store is within the first 52 seconds..
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MacShadowsBall
10-16-2010, 08:01 PM
Something about Stevie singing abit of a Christine song just makes my heart warm. :angel:
vivfox
10-16-2010, 08:21 PM
OH how I wish I did! But alas, I do not. However, in the ever amazing Rolling Stone video of her singing Wild Heart, she starts singing Love In Store and then goes into Wild Heart. She doesn't sing much of it, but what she does sing has always made me long for a full version of her singing it!
Love In Store is within the first 52 seconds..
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You are right again. It even sounded better with Lori's harmony, dontcha think?
aleuzzi
10-17-2010, 10:08 AM
Sounds definitely better with Christine in the lead.
MissLadyLoki
10-17-2010, 10:25 AM
I've only heard it in MP3 form, but has anyone ever heard Christine sing Rhiannon? It's from Rumours rehearsals and it's hilarious (in fact, at one point, she makes fun of the end by saying "Dreams unwind, etc. etc.")
Nikolaj
10-17-2010, 11:24 PM
I don't see the difference between being out of her mind and over her head.
Michele
Oh, there's a difference! Having been both, I would know!
You are so wise and level-headed, Michelej1! It's not that I disagree with you- from a logical and mentally healthy person's perspective, 'out of my mind' and 'over my head' would seem similar!
Oh, but no, very different :)
"Out of my mind" would require a totally different med than 'over my head' which a valium or xanax- or a glass of wine, would help.
APerfectLie
10-17-2010, 11:40 PM
You are right again. It even sounded better with Lori's harmony, dontcha think?
Yes!
(10char)
michelej1
10-19-2010, 12:10 AM
Oh, there's a difference! Having been both, I would know!
You are so wise and level-headed, Michelej1! It's not that I disagree with you- from a logical and mentally healthy person's perspective, 'out of my mind' and 'over my head' would seem similar!
Oh, but no, very different :)
"Out of my mind" would require a totally different med than 'over my head' which a valium or xanax- or a glass of wine, would help.
Nice. Now, that you mention it, I see the distinction between needing a valium and needing counseling!
From a realistic point of view, "over my head" just means overwhelmed, in too deep and is very different from being a little crazy. So, in real life, it really does matter. Lyric wise, I always thought of them as the same.
Michele
Hi! After a few days listening to Mirage, I suppose I could write about all the songs! I start with Christine's songs, one by one...
1. Love in Store. Beautiful, nice way to start the album. I really like the backing vocals of Stevie (like a duet in some parts) and Lindsey (so strong!). Nice to see it in some compilations!
2. Only Over You. Amazing. Christine's style in its best moment. A big ballad, with beautiful harmonies and her unique voice...
3. Hold Me. I know she wrote it with another guy (I don't remember now his name), so I'll put here. Is a nice song, I made all the posible to build an instrumental version to song it myself, and I found that bass, guitar and drums are really good!
4. Wish You Were Here. As I said with the first, I can say the same with the last. Incredible way to finish an album. A quiet song, emotional end with guitar and piano mixed.
So, that's all folks! Regards!!
Blueletter18
02-20-2012, 10:17 PM
[QUOTE=ryan4136;914685]
Hold Me---probably nearly everyones favorite, not just for CM, but for the Mac on this album. Great upbeat song, one of the best duets you'll find in pop music. JM's bass in this song doesn't get the credit it deserves, the transitions seem flawless here. I'm always left wanting to press repeat, but I can't help but feeling that it could've used another verse...2 minutes of Hold Me, Hold Me etc.....I get it...I'll hold you.
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hahaha this is great:laugh:
Blueletter18
02-20-2012, 10:19 PM
I've only heard it in MP3 form, but has anyone ever heard Christine sing Rhiannon? It's from Rumours rehearsals and it's hilarious (in fact, at one point, she makes fun of the end by saying "Dreams unwind, etc. etc.")
Would anyone be willing to post the link to this?
Blueletter18
02-20-2012, 10:42 PM
Love In Store- Not one of my favorites, but I do enjoy listening to this one. it sets the tone for the record, and the harmonies are really well defined here.
Only Over You- The guitar in this is really beautiful, but the melody and lyrics quickly become monotonous.
Hold Me- Adds some much-needed energy. Love it! I am obsessed with the video for this, it's hilarious.
Wish You Were Here- This is a good way to close the record. I like the line "because I feel like a child tonight." This is probably my second favorite Christine song on Mirage.
bangdrum
02-20-2012, 11:44 PM
Love In Store - I love this; it's so bouncy! :blob2: Should've been a bigger hit than it was.
Only Over You - It took me forever to make myself listen past that opening line... But once you get past that, the rest is a very pretty song, if a little monotonous.
Hold Me - Yes to song and yes to video. :D
Wish You Were Here - I really love this, especially the jam at the end. Wish they'd played it live.
McTrouble
02-21-2012, 09:30 AM
Love in Store and Hold Me - Love 'em a lot
Only Over You and Wish You Were Here - Like 'em a lot
HomerMcvie
02-21-2012, 01:30 PM
Love in Store and Hold Me - Love 'em a lot
Only Over You and Wish You Were Here - Like 'em a lot
Agreed. Although it took me FOREVER to like Only Over You. It was just too sleepy for me.
But I've always felt the same way about Warm Ways, Oh Daddy, Honey Hi, One More Night, and Mystified. I don't hate them, but they're just a little too sleepy for me...
cliffdweller
02-21-2012, 02:58 PM
I love all of Chris's songs on Mirage EXCEPT "Only Over You." I just can't get into that one. Too sleepy for me. "Wish You Were Here" is one of my very favorites from Chris. Beautiful love song.
cliffdweller
02-21-2012, 03:06 PM
I have to say, I think Christine's songs on Tusk are far superior to her songs on Mirage and her songs on Tango take the cake.
Hmmm, I think "Mystified" is one of the worst songs she's ever written. Nothing on Mirage is that horrible.
I agree with you that her Tusk songs are better than Mirage, but I would also have to say that her Tusk songs are better than those on Tango. Not a big fan of her Tango material, although I do like "Little Lies."
HejiraNYC
02-21-2012, 03:08 PM
Wish You Were Here - I really love this, especially the jam at the end. Wish they'd played it live.
They did play it live... but for some reason they called it "Silver Springs." :p
bangdrum
02-21-2012, 03:24 PM
Hmmm, I think "Mystified" is one of the worst songs she's ever written. Nothing on Mirage is that horrible.
^This. Although LB had an equal hand in the awfulness of that song...
bangdrum
02-21-2012, 03:25 PM
They did play it live... but for some reason they called it "Silver Springs." :p
:thumbsup:
But Chris didn't sing lead, did she? :p
^This. Although LB had an equal hand in the awfulness of that song...
all i have to say is - glad it didn't move to the next round of voting for songs co-written by LB currently ongoing in Lindsey forum. :cool:
bangdrum
02-21-2012, 08:00 PM
Would anyone be willing to post the link to this?
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?tyxen5g7yv1y6di
jcalzaretta
02-21-2012, 09:09 PM
Love in Store. Some good, some bleh. I liked it less than I liked it overall. That must mean something.
Only Over You. Don't like it. Skip it each time.
Hold Me. Brilliant. Classic. Love it
Wish you Were Here. I really like it. Love the intro. Sounds a bit like Silver Springs.
drzubritsky
02-21-2012, 09:13 PM
"Love In Store": A decent tune, but not really hooky enough to be a single. The harmonies are very nice...one of the last gasps of really strong 3-part harmony with all three vocalists participating.
"Only Over You": Actually not a bad song, but the oft-cited offending line ("I'm out of my mind") is in a soprano range which isn't where Christine's voice shines. There is a strident quality to that line (the opening of the song, unfortunately) that makes the song a tough listen. Christine's voice is much more appealing in the alto range.
"Hold Me": A deserved hit single. Pretty amazing that they could create such a strong hook with the layered vocals on the chorus with just the words "hold me" repeated.
"Wish You Were Here": A solid album track, nothing spectacular but not bad. It was a surprise when they recycled the piano intro for the 1997 "Silver Springs".
As I think about not just Christine's tracks but all the songs on Mirage, it occurs to me that each of them has merit as a standalone track. Some are better than others, but I can't say there are any outright embarrassments or misfires. The problem with Mirage is that there is an overall politeness and blandness when listening to in its entirety. The album could have used a rocker or two to shake things up, or at least carried over a bit of Tusk's quirkiness. As it is, Mirage is pleasant, polished and professional but definitely a case where the whole is less than the sum of the parts.
MikeInNV
02-21-2012, 09:49 PM
I don't know what is wrong with me. "Hold Me" is universally loved, but I just don't get it. It's not my least favorite Christine song, but I'm pretty sure it's my least favorite FM song to have been released as a single. I guess one thing I don't understand is why repeating "hold me" over and over again is any better of a chorus than "what's the matter baby" being repeated just as many times in WISYA.
Blueletter18
02-21-2012, 10:39 PM
Thanks for the link, bangdrum!
PenguinHead
02-21-2012, 10:57 PM
I'm surprised Only Over You is so vilified! There's no other like it in her catalog of songs. It has a cool ethereal quality to it. I have always enjoyed it. People say I'm crazy. but they don't know!
StephenC
02-22-2012, 03:10 AM
Christine's songs are usually very strong, but the production on Love In Store and Only Over you are bland. Both needed to be beefed up.
Hold Me is a great song.
I was actually thinking about Wish You Were Here the other day. Again, the production let's it down. Can you imagine how great it would have sounded with an orchestra accompanying the band?
HejiraNYC
02-22-2012, 11:24 AM
I was actually thinking about Wish You Were Here the other day. Again, the production let's it down. Can you imagine how great it would have sounded with an orchestra accompanying the band?
I have a theory about this song, which doesn't sound like anything else on Mirage. It's a sound that seemed to be very popular, which consisted of a very dry, spare sound and very simple, unadorned, crisp instrumentation with prominent drums- not unlike albums released by Billy Joel, Carly Simon, Jackson Browne, and, most notably, John Lennon around the same time. John Lennon's Double Fantasy kind of perfected that sonic template, especially on his greatest song ever- "Watching the Wheels." Other artists, namely Elton John ("Empty Garden") and Queen ("Life Is Real") issued Lennon tributes that kind of paid homage to this particular sound. I think "Wish You Were Here" was Fleetwood Mac's own tribute to John Lennon. No, there is nothing particularly Lennon-specific about the lyrics, but that mournful sentiment of someone who has passed on is there along with the decidedly Double Fantasy-like vocal and instrumental arrangements.
PolishStevieFan
02-22-2012, 12:19 PM
Christine wrote at least two gems for the "Mirage" album. The first is "Love In Store". This song is so infectiously catchy and has wonderful harmonies shared by Lindsay and Stevie. The lyrics are rather lighthearted but who can blame her? Christine has never been a poetic lyricist or something. With funny video and strong promotion this could have served as another single from the album. The second gem is "Only Over You". This song is so dreamy, much in the vein of "Warm Ways" from "Fleetwood Mac" album. Her voice is at its creamy-candy best here. As was the case with aforementioned song "Only Over You" in lyrical department can't be mistaken for poem but luckily it doesn't take away anything from this beautiful song.
"Hold Me" was the biggest hit from the album but I don't think it was that strong. It's just decent Pop song but truly nothing memorable if you ask me. And then there's "Wish You Were Here" which is dull and drags towards the end.
Christine wrote at least two gems for the "Mirage" album. The first is "Love In Store". This song is so infectiously catchy and has wonderful harmonies shared by Lindsay and Stevie.
:distress::mad::shocked::mad::shocked:
HomerMcvie
02-22-2012, 09:08 PM
:distress::mad::shocked::mad::shocked:
Lindsay was the girl on the back of the White album, right?:D
drzubritsky
02-22-2012, 11:35 PM
Christine wrote at least two gems for the "Mirage" album. The first is "Love In Store". This song is so infectiously catchy and has wonderful harmonies shared by Lindsay and Stevie. The lyrics are rather lighthearted but who can blame her? Christine has never been a poetic lyricist or something. With funny video and strong promotion this could have served as another single from the album.
"Love In Store" was released as the third single from Mirage in the U.S. and reached #22 in Billboard.
michelej1
02-23-2012, 12:46 AM
I'm surprised Only Over You is so vilified! There's no other like it in her catalog of songs. It has a cool ethereal quality to it. I have always enjoyed it. People say I'm crazy. but they don't know!
I think it's beautiful and the swelling instrumentation at the end only heightens it.
Michele
PolishStevieFan
02-23-2012, 12:43 PM
Lindsay was the girl on the back of the White album, right?:D
:D:D:D:D:D:D Sorry Lindsey of course!
Travisevian
02-27-2012, 03:20 PM
Love In Store - 1960's folk rock in the 1980's...harmonies remind me of The Mamas And The Papas.
Only Over You - Dark, melancholic, well-expressed, vulnerable.
Hold Me - Catchy. Lovely video, too. Stevie looked great.
Wish You Were Here - Beautiful piano intro, interesting.
I'd totally believe Stevie singing 'I'm out of my mind'--
Christine's persona just seemed too 'cool, calm and collected' emotionally, or too stable, to pull that song off.
I think Miss Rock A Little with her Wild Heart would've been spellbinding on the vocal ...."People say I'm crazy..." Of course, they did!
I think it's a case of Christine having written a song that would have been great had Stevie sung it! (I'm out of my mind, well, baby, and its only, you know, over-over you- I'm still out of my mind, baby, well, well well, still I am out...of my mind, baby, and it's only over you!)
That's so true. :laugh: :nod:
jbrownsjr
02-27-2012, 03:33 PM
I think it's beautiful and the swelling instrumentation at the end only heightens it.
Michele
I totally understand what you mean. I get this really beautiful sensation as the tune ends.
jbrownsjr
02-27-2012, 03:50 PM
I totally understand what you mean. I get this really beautiful sensation as the tune ends.
I also get it on "As Long As You Follow" at the outro
Totally agree with the comments. Lindsey and Stevie's harmonies in Love in Store, Only over you melancholic and well-expressed, Stevie's look in the video of Hold Me (well... :angel:), and the intro of Wish you were here, used in Silver Springs of The Dance! The last song of the album is just amazing, incredible, so cute!
On Ice
03-03-2012, 03:44 PM
I love Love in Store as an opener, I know it opens with a bang, but to these ears, the bang should've been a little more dramatic and less mellow. I would've liked a little rougher electric guitar sound, but that being said, the harmonies don't get much better than that. Hold Me is also one of my all time favourites and still hear it on the radio occasionally today. A very melodic song and the shared vocal with Lindsey again works so well on McVie's tunes. I like the comments about Stevie singing Only Over You, (a thought just occurred to me that they could've had Christine do If You were My Love as a closer rather than I wish You Were Here, which I found bland and kind of contrived sounding. It just misses that sincerity that was present on Christine's other ballads. Her vocals throughout too, are simply amazing.
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