I messed up

[DavidMn]

So a couple days ago I was supposed to take a friend of mine to the airport so he could go see his daughter in Florida. He had called me last week and asked if I could. Now I needed to be there at 7:30 A.M at his place to get him to the airport on time. This is a friend who I have known for 15 years and we have gone to concerts together and hes definitely a fellow Maccer. He took me to and picked me up from the airport when I went to London for FLeetwood Mac last fall. Anyway, back to now. My friend was nervous because I AM NOT a morning person and he asked "are you sure you can ge tup in time?" I swore several time that for him it was no problem. Well as I'm sure you can guess it was a problem. I set my alarm for 6:00 A.M. the next thing I knew it was 7:30 and I saw the clock and FREAKED!:eek: I called him hurriedly and of course he was pissed. He said "Dammit dave, I counted on you and you F***ED UP!" he said he had called a cab and I told him to cancel it and I would be tehre in 15 min which I was. I got there though and he had already left in the cab. He called later that afternoon after arriving in Florida still mad at me. I said "I'm sorry I swear I dont know what happened!" and he was like "I dont care I counted on you and you didnt come through." And he hung up on me. I'm not sure whats going to come next, but I am at peace at least knowing I had set everything up right. I have no idea what happened. The only thing I can think of is that when the alarm went off I turned it off and dont remember it. I'm just going to not call my friend for awhile and let him cool off then we'el see.

[mylittledemon]

Don't worry about it. ***** happens for a reason. You never know, had you been on time you and he might've been in a car accident and both killed. God only knows. He's fine and safe, and so are you. Move on. ;)

[jaycee]

Don't worry about it. ***** happens for a reason. You never know, had you been on time you and he might've been in a car accident and both killed. God only knows. He's fine and safe, and so are you. Move on. ;)

Well, ***** happens, but there doesn't have to be a very deep reason for it, and it's more likely than not there wouldn't have been a car accident... still, the important thing is that you're both safe, and he made his flight anyway.
If your friend really is your friend, he will forgive you sooner or later, especially because the situation worked out okay for him in the end. At worst, it might put a bit of a strain on your friendship for a little while. But if he didn't forgive you, you'd have to wonder just how good a friend of yours he's been the past 15 years. If he is a good friend, he'll probably say later on that's he's sorry he relied on you knowing that things possibly could've gone wrong, and that's he's glad it still worked out fine for him anyway, so the mishap doesn't matter.
It may hurt a bit now, but that's come to pass. The same surely goes for your friend.
(Btw I'm not a morning person either, and there have been times when I've woken up and wondered why the alarm hasn't gone off - it's more than likely the case that I've actually woken up and turned it off, but in such a sleepy state I've immediately gone back to sleep and forgotten all about it, because there was one time when that happened and I remembered doing exactly that, but only several hours after getting up.)

[paleshadow]

So a couple days ago I was supposed to take a friend of mine to the airport so he could go see his daughter in Florida. He had called me last week and asked if I could. Now I needed to be there at 7:30 A.M at his place to get him to the airport on time. This is a friend who I have known for 15 years and we have gone to concerts together and hes definitely a fellow Maccer. He took me to and picked me up from the airport when I went to London for FLeetwood Mac last fall. Anyway, back to now. My friend was nervous because I AM NOT a morning person and he asked "are you sure you can ge tup in time?" I swore several time that for him it was no problem. Well as I'm sure you can guess it was a problem. I set my alarm for 6:00 A.M. the next thing I knew it was 7:30 and I saw the clock and FREAKED!:eek: I called him hurriedly and of course he was pissed. He said "Dammit dave, I counted on you and you F***ED UP!" he said he had called a cab and I told him to cancel it and I would be tehre in 15 min which I was. I got there though and he had already left in the cab. He called later that afternoon after arriving in Florida still mad at me. I said "I'm sorry I swear I dont know what happened!" and he was like "I dont care I counted on you and you didnt come through." And he hung up on me. I'm not sure whats going to come next, but I am at peace at least knowing I had set everything up right. I have no idea what happened. The only thing I can think of is that when the alarm went off I turned it off and dont remember it. I'm just going to not call my friend for awhile and let him cool off then we'el see.

If he was nervous about your ability to get up early he should have made other arrangements, but on the other hand you know yourself better and should have probably said no. You apologized though and that's about all you can do.
If it were me, I would offer to pay for his cab also, or maybe even find out about how much it was and just send it to him in a letter telling him again that I was sorry. Hope it works out.

[HejiraNYC]

I think it was rather douchey of your friend to call you later on to tell you off. You were clearly apologetic and appalled by what happened and you made the effort to right the wrong, even if it didn't matter in the end. But it's not like you just blew him off intentionally or expressed indifference.

I think if he is really your friend, he will forgive you and move on. However, he will probably also assume that you simply cannot be trusted for anything ever again and will be reluctant to ask for your help in the future. Only you can make this better by earning his trust again. Offer to do something very helpful. Make commitments and over-deliver on them. Don't wait for him to ask you; take the initiative and propose something. But whatever you do, don't screw it up again!

[MissLadyLoki]

I hate to say it, but your friend was clearly a grade-A jerk in this situation. I mean, you made an honest mistake, and people do make mistakes. He should understand that, accept your apology, and move on.

[michelle2677]

i'll play devil's advocate, just because i have a friend i can't rely on and it's recently been putting a strain on our relationship. if this is the first time this had happened, then your friend is an ass; it was an honest mistake. it's not like you made plans and were out drinking and forgot about him.

but if you're unreliable in other ways, then he's probably been boiling for a while and this is just the final straw. it's usually the small petty things that send us over, because of lots of other small (or large) things building up.

[jannieC]

He shouldn't have asked you if this has happened before. If I had to be on an early morning flight, I wouldn't count on the friend who is known for not being a morning person to pick me up! All you can do is apologize and leave it up to him, David.

[michelle2677]

He shouldn't have asked you if this has happened before. If I had to be on an early morning flight, I wouldn't count on the friend who is known for not being a morning person to pick me up! All you can do is apologize and leave it up to him, David.

i agree with this completely, because i'd never ask the friend i mentioned, to pick me up :laugh: BUT. only because he's completely unreliable in other ways. i'm not a morning person, either, but the guy asked him "are you SURE you can do this?"

i''m not trying to pick on david and say it's his fault. i guess i'm just saying if the guy is THIS mad, and stays mad, there might be some other underlying issues.

[vivfox]

Well if it's MikeSchmike you're talking about--that explains everything. He's mean regardless. His name should be MikeShmuck.

[carrie721]

Well if it's MikeSchmike you're talking about--that explains everything. He's mean regardless.

you are such a joke.

[SapphireSister]

If he's a real friend (which it sounds like he is) I bet he'll get over it. Just give him some time and don't beat yourself up. You really did try and you know that.

[BTFLCHLD]

You might try a look from the other side.

My friend was nervous because I AM NOT a morning person and he asked "are you sure you can ge tup in time?" I swore several time that for him it was no problem.

He took me to and picked me up from the airport when I went to London for FLeetwood Mac last fall.

1) you 'swore'
2) likely you would have had a 'cow' had he been late or failed to show.

:shrug:

[mylittledemon]

Well, ***** happens, but there doesn't have to be a very deep reason for it, and it's more likely than not there wouldn't have been a car accident... still, the important thing is that you're both safe, and he made his flight anyway.

Exactly. That's why I said "you never know"... ;)

[DavidMn]

You might try a look from the other side.





1) you 'swore'
2) likely you would have had a 'cow' had he been late or failed to show.

:shrug:I did misstype that one line thank you for correcting me. I meant to say I swore to him several times that I could get up on time.

[DavidMn]

I think I'm going to offer to take him to lunch next week when he gets back into town. I know I have to do something to make up for my mistake. It just really pisses me off because I pride myself as someone who can be counted on. Oh, and I do want to add that when I said I wasnt a morning person, that didnt refer to my cmoing thru or not for a friend. This is the first time this has ever happened between he and I. I'm going to chalk it up to him being nervous to be able to ge to the airport in time. We'el see, like they say time will tell.

[michelle2677]

Well if it's MikeSchmike you're talking about--that explains everything. He's mean regardless. His name should be MikeShmuck.

and "WE" got strikes for making fun of vivfox the actress?

okay.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

I can understand him being pissed off. He was probably stressed and worried about getting to his flight on time. But he'll get over it. Just give him time to cool off

[vivfox]

and "WE" got strikes for making fun of vivfox the actress?

okay.


3 years ago and you're still pissed.:sorry: But Mikeshmuck was perma banned and that had nothing to do with me. He did that on his own insulting and abusing other Ledgies.
Oh and just for the record, I had nothing to do with anyone being banned. The mods at that time felt that most of those negative posts were aimed at VivFox the person(as in me)not VivFox the actress (as in the real Vivica Fox). I never asked for anyone to be banned but I did feel attacked by several people. I even pm'd Michele asking why Danax6 was banned. Vanessa never said anything negative about me in her posts.

[michelle2677]

3 years ago and you're still pissed.:sorry: But Mikeshmuck was perma banned and that had nothing to do with me.

yes, because i got a strike, for what i consider no reason. even you said yourself , then, that i had always been nice to you, even in that specific thread.

have you had any contact with mike, since then? i'm just wondering if something recent's happened, or if you were just pulling his name out of no where. (or from 3 years ago ;) )

[Miss Vicky]

I did misstype that one line thank you for correcting me. I meant to say I swore to him several times that I could get up on time.

I believe that's what she meant as well, David. As in you swore ("cross your heart and hope to die" kind of swear) that you would do this for him and you still fell through.

[vivfox]

yes, because i got a strike, for what i consider no reason. even you said yourself , then, that i had always been nice to you, even in that specific thread.

have you had any contact with mike, since then? i'm just wondering if something recent's happened, or if you were just pulling his name out of no where. (or from 3 years ago ;) )


Like I said I was upset that certain members were harassing me but I had no control over anyone being banned. The Mods decided who, in their opinion deserved banning and so it was. Many Ledgies must have lost some good friends in that ban because to this day people still throw that incident in my face. Michelle, you didn't post here for a very long time. I'm glad to see you are back as you are well loved around here.

Mike was in Nicksfix Chat recently raving to me about why he was banned from here and he was being a dickhead to me and I asked him why, 'cause I didn't even know who he was, and he told me he was perma banned from The Ledge for being an all around jerk. The poster of this thread was on chat that evening and signed off for a few minutes and then Mike said something nasty about Dave and then when Dave came back Mike was acting innocent while I was defending Dave and Dave took Mike's side and defended him against me and Dave said he's known Mike for a long time, they both live in Minneapolis, have gone to many FM shows together, etc.

[Musicman408]

David, I will say that one of my pet peeves is tardiness- HOWEVER, knowing that this person is a true friend, he will forgive you and you all WILL move on. He probably won't ask for an early morning ride for awhile. This is a classic scenario as to why a backup plan to the backup plan would have been a good idea. Your friend could have called you to wake you up, however.

[LikeAWillow]

Your friend could have called you to wake you up, however.

...from a plane?

I agree with the sh*t happens post. You messed up, your friend's disappointment in you is the price you pay. It'll get better in time, but you earned the anger now.

[michelle2677]

Like I said I was upset that certain members were harassing me but I had no control over anyone being banned. The Mods decided who, in their opinion deserved banning and so it was. Many Ledgies must have lost some good friends in that ban because to this day people still throw that incident in my face. Michelle, you didn't post here for a very long time. I'm glad to see you are back as you are well loved around here.

Mike was in Nicksfix Chat recently raving to me about why he was banned from here and he was being a dickhead to me and I asked him why, 'cause I didn't even know who he was, and he told me he was perma banned from The Ledge for being an all around jerk. The poster of this thread was on chat that evening and signed off for a few minutes and then Mike said something nasty about Dave and then when Dave came back Mike was acting innocent while I was defending Dave and Dave took Mike's side and defended him against me and Dave said he's known Mike for a long time, they both live in Minneapolis, have gone to many FM shows together, etc.

oh, you edited, since i posted!! :sorry:

anyway, i believe you in that you weren't purposely trying to get anyone banned. or at least me, and i remember your pm about vanessa, so her as well. i don't talk to mike, ever, so it didn't concern me one way or the other. i was just wondering why you were bringing HIM up, after 3 years. the main reason i haven't posted on here has to do with life/loss of internet, it just so happened, it was close after that incident. no worries.

sorry your friend is mad at you david, and like everyone else has said-if he's any type of good friend, he'll forgive you. but you have some sucking up to do.

[carrie721]

The poster of this thread was on chat that evening and signed off for a few minutes and then Mike said something nasty about Dave and then when Dave came back Mike was acting innocent while I was defending Dave and Dave took Mike's side and defended him against me and Dave said he's known Mike for a long time, they both live in Minneapolis, have gone to many FM shows together, etc.

none of this is true. not one word of it.

[vivfox]

none of this is true. not one word of it.


You weren't on that time, thank God.

[carrie721]

You weren't on that time, thank God.

so the same exact scenario happened another time? sweet. :laugh:

even if that were the case, they have not gone to any fleetwood mac shows together. not one.

[diane_k]

I sent a message to the mods to review these lies and insults that Mike cannot defend himself. I hope they can remind vivfox to act appropriately and if he has a personal issue with someone...take it up with them and not spread false information to a board that is read by several hundred people. :distress:

[vivfox]

I sent a message to the mods to review these lies and insults that Mike cannot defend himself. I hope they can remind vivfox to act appropriately and if he has a personal issue with someone...take it up with them and not spread false information to a board that is read by several hundred people. :distress:


Ooh baby ooh said ooh. Did you remind them that you are one of my haterz?

[iamnotafraid]

Did you remind them that you are one of my haterz?

Sounds like you've got many here.
I see once again you've started another
Cat Fight.

[diane_k]

^ But then when he gets called out for it he just plays the victim.

I think a strike is warranted and deserved. From what I hear, he was banned from 7W for acting like a jerk, too.

[vivfox]

Sounds like you've got many haterz here.


Are you one of them?

[vivfox]

^ But then when he gets called out for it he just plays the victim.

I think a strike is warranted and deserved. From what I hear, he was banned from 7W for acting like a jerk, too.


I don't play the victim. Lots of Ledgies have been banned from 7W. None of us care.
Diane, as I recall Paula recently called you out for all of your hateful, negative posting. Who are you to talk about me.

[jannieC]

Oh, just drop this childishness or take it to PM's.

[trackaghost]

I can understand him being pissed off. He was probably stressed and worried about getting to his flight on time. But he'll get over it. Just give him time to cool off

I think this is the best advice in this thread! David, you messed up, accept responsibility, understand he has a right to be mad and just give him time to cool off. Once he has, if you are sincerely sorry I'm pretty sure he'll forgive you and it's something you'll probably laugh about in the future. But like Pip says, let him cool off and show him that you are genuinely sorry and I'm sure it will work out fine.

[DavidMn]

I think this is the best advice in this thread! David, you messed up, accept responsibility, understand he has a right to be mad and just give him time to cool off. Once he has, if you are sincerely sorry I'm pretty sure he'll forgive you and it's something you'll probably laugh about in the future. But like Pip says, let him cool off and show him that you are genuinely sorry and I'm sure it will work out fine.I intend do do so. There's no excuse for what happened. I promised him I could come thru and I didnt, bottom line. I pride myself in keeping my word and when I dont, even if it's not intentional, it really bothers me.

[DavidMn]

Like I said I was upset that certain members were harassing me but I had no control over anyone being banned. The Mods decided who, in their opinion deserved banning and so it was. Many Ledgies must have lost some good friends in that ban because to this day people still throw that incident in my face. Michelle, you didn't post here for a very long time. I'm glad to see you are back as you are well loved around here.

Mike was in Nicksfix Chat recently raving to me about why he was banned from here and he was being a dickhead to me and I asked him why, 'cause I didn't even know who he was, and he told me he was perma banned from The Ledge for being an all around jerk. The poster of this thread was on chat that evening and signed off for a few minutes and then Mike said something nasty about Dave and then when Dave came back Mike was acting innocent while I was defending Dave and Dave took Mike's side and defended him against me and Dave said he's known Mike for a long time, they both live in Minneapolis, have gone to many FM shows together, etc.Viv, I have never at any time said I went to any Fleetwood Mac show or otherwise with Mike, I did say I know him and he does live in Minneapolis, but again I DID NOT AT ANY TIME say we had gone to shows together. Please stop saying stuff about me thats not true. Thank you.

[BTFLCHLD]

I'd wait for the lunch...I mean, he probably isn't all that into seeing you about now.

Maybe a note of apology, then a rest.

[skcin]

Wait, I'm confused - was it really Mikeschmike who you were supposed to take the the airport? :shrug: I didn't realize you knew him personally.

And I'd be really f*cking pissed if a friend didn't pick me up on time for the airport. it's not like you were late to dinner - he could have missed his flight. I've sure he'll get over it eventually, but I totally get why he's angry with you David.

[DavidMn]

Wait, I'm confused - was it really Mikeschmike who you were supposed to take the the airport? :shrug: I didn't realize you knew him personally.

And I'd be really f*cking pissed if a friend didn't pick me up on time for the airport. it's not like you were late to dinner - he could have missed his flight. I've sure he'll get over it eventually, but I totally get why he's angry with you David.No it was actually another friend of mine not Mike. No I totally understand that hes pissed at me. I'm not making any excuses I flat out didnt come thru. Like I said we'el just have to see what transpires out of this.

[slc4236]

David, you could send him a gift card for a local resturant for the amount of the cab ride. Or if you have the daughters address send a gift card to her for the amount at Toys are Us or Target. That would be a way of solving the problem. Your friend should not have called you and yelled after he got to FL. that is not wat a totaly fuctioning person does. Also you went to London and came home at it was at night that is a lot easier time to help out. When I travel early in the morning I just take a cab or the bus. :eek: