Mac Featured In Rolling Stone Mags Top 500 Songs

[bellagypsy79]

There is a special 10.00 issue of Rolling Stone out called the Top 500 Songs of all time and Fleetwood Mac came in at #120 with "Go Your Own Way". To me that is stupid and they were only mentioned that one time with a small pic of stevie and not of the band it's self. they had other great songs. Why just that one. Well if you read the last pages of the issue you will find out who voted. It's pretty interesting. But all of these songs that were in that magazine I totally disagree with. I disagree with the song as well as it's position in the issue. But that's Rolling Stone for ya. I just thought I would let everyone know. :wavey:

[MissLadyLoki]

I gotta come out and say it: RS is run by a bunch of childish jackasses that act like a combo of a poser (put on their lists what they think is "cool") and an elitist (put on their lists obscure stuff to look "cool"). Their lists are skewed as hell (you shoulda seen how upset people got at my Zep Facebook group when they saw Jimmy Page was ranked only 7 on their list of the 100 greatest guitarists) and to listen to it is like taking advice on penny stocks and other risky investments from a monkey throwing darts at a board. I swear, their lists annoy me more than anything else, but I've come to ignore them and their stupid opinions.

OK, rant over.

Now, Go Your Own Way is a great song, but they should have really put Rhiannon up there and higher too. That song did have a huge impact in that it was the breakout song for the Mac and solidified Stevie's image that has served as an influence for female vocalists to this day, not to mention it was a huge stepping stone towards her position as the Queen of Rock n' Roll.

[StreetAngel95]

Well of course, Rolling Stone is bias. I mean, Like a Rolling Stone is number one and Satisfaction by The Rolling Stones is two?!?!? come on.....

Rhiannon is also on there: #488

in my opinion, it's better than GYOW and should be higher....actually i'm surprised that Landslide isn't on there.....

[ButterCookie]

Yeah... but... Shouldn't everyone be biased when it comes to The Rolling Stones? :lol:

I can't hate Rolling Stone because that mag made Annie Leibovitz famous and I love her.

I agree that Rhiannon should be higher but I don't care for GYOW as much as I do Rhiannon :)

[LukeA]

Well of course, Rolling Stone is bias. I mean, Like a Rolling Stone is number one and Satisfaction by The Rolling Stones is two?!?!? come on.....

Rhiannon is also on there: #488

in my opinion, it's better than GYOW and should be higher....actually i'm surprised that Landslide isn't on there.....

You're looking at the original list from 2004, where GYOW was #119 and Rhiannon was #488. On the updated list, GYOW moved down a spot to #120 and Rhiannon got bumped off entirely.

[golddustwoman77]

I'm really surprised that they didn't go with "Dreams." It is the Mac's only #1,and it didn't even make the list. I HATE these lists anyway. It is just a couple of people's opinions, so what makes their opinions any better than anyone else's?! :shrug:

[MissLadyLoki]

I'm really surprised that they didn't go with "Dreams." It is the Mac's only #1,and it didn't even make the list. I HATE these lists anyway. It is just a couple of people's opinions, so what makes their opinions any better than anyone else's?! :shrug:

Cause it's the "Rolling Stone" name :P

Gimme a break. They think cause they're a mag that their opinion is so much more important than anyone elses. I personally think that, at the end of the day, your personal opinion is much more important.

[michelej1]

I think other FM songs belonged on that list, but I'll gladly take GYOW as the one that won consideration.

Michele

[LukeA]

I'm really surprised that they didn't go with "Dreams." It is the Mac's only #1,and it didn't even make the list.

Its cool that Dreams went to #1 and all, but chart placement- more often than not- depends on its competition in any given week. There are dozens of #2, #3, #4, even #5 hits that WAY outperformed just as many #1's. Dreams- when you take a closer look- was a weak #1.

As for the RS 500 chart, GYOW gets at least 3 times (and that's a conservative estimate) more spins on radio than Dreams does these days. There's a pretty established/accepted consensus on what the most lasting/significant track from Rumours (a lasting/significant album in itself, of course), and it ain't Dreams.

[michelej1]

As for the RS 500 chart, GYOW gets at least 3 times (and that's a conservative estimate) more spins on radio than Dreams does these days. There's a pretty established/accepted consensus on what the most lasting/significant track from Rumours (a lasting/significant album in itself, of course), and it ain't Dreams.


And when I think of the Bill Clinton campaign theme song, I am pretty darn happy with the way things divide themselves out in a roughly even manner, all told. Something for everyone.

I will stack my own triumverate up against Caesar, Marc Antony and Marcus Aemilius Lepidus any day of the week.

Michele

[Nikolaj]

I gotta come out and say it: RS is run by a bunch of childish jackasses that act like a combo of a poser (put on their lists what they think is "cool") and an elitist (put on their lists obscure stuff to look "cool"). Their lists are skewed as hell (you shoulda seen how upset people got at my Zep Facebook group when they saw Jimmy Page was ranked only 7 on their list of the 100 greatest guitarists) and to listen to it is like taking advice on penny stocks and other risky investments from a monkey throwing darts at a board. I swear, their lists annoy me more than anything else, but I've come to ignore them and their stupid opinions.
OK, rant over.
Now, Go Your Own Way is a great song, but they should have really put Rhiannon up there and higher too. That song did have a huge impact in that it was the breakout song for the Mac and solidified Stevie's image that has served as an influence for female vocalists to this day, not to mention it was a huge stepping stone towards her position as the Queen of Rock n' Roll.

I really enjoyed the entire composition of what you wrote, MLL, it just reads in a very flowing, logical, positive way. Heck, I found it concise! (Usually, I think of rants as too long! I could have read more of your thoughts!)
It's funny how damaged the reputation of RS seems to be, now. I suspect they may not be willing to pay for 'real writers' anymore, for the magazine, with the Internet writers, pro and non-pro, who provide immediate coverage a bi-weekly cannot. I'd given my sister's 13 yr. old son a subscription, and my sister asked me to please not renew it, saying 'All they do is put these old f***s on the cover and compile ridiculous lists, there's nothing in there worth reading'.
Of-course, I'd love Rolling Stone again if they gave us an exclusive preview of the (being faithful, still) forthcoming Stevie cd with a cover photo and caption along the lines of:
'Can Rolling Stone's Designated 'Queen of Rock' Reign Again As She Rush-Releases Best Album Ever?'
(Why not hallucinate big?)
Inside, a never-before-leaked track-by-track preview; written by Cameron Crowe, because he's sick of trying to sell another screenplay, with pages of photos and details of the recording sessions, on news-stands no later than September 1, 2010. I'd buy a lifetime subscription-
-Yup, won't happen.
See now, what I meant about how concise you were, MLL?!

PS- As we all know, Rolling Stone really blew it by not having even a mention of Lindsey Buckingham in their '100 Greatest Guitarists in Rock History' issue, which you also managed to mention, above.
Concisely :)

[ButterCookie]

I say, let Patti Smith write for them again. Then it'd be more than worth reading.

[StreetAngel95]

I say, let Patti Smith write for them again. Then it'd be more than worth reading.

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[ButterCookie]

Thinking about it, I phrased that wrong. They should beg Patti to write for them again. Seems she realised how **** it was and only did that one review :lol:

[Nikolaj]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie
I say, let Patti Smith write for them again. Then it'd be more than worth reading.

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I agree with you, both! Let Patti write, let people read it!
Just don't let her sing and make people listen!!

Now ducking slings and arrows. It's a joke, really. I know Patti Smith is an 'untouchable', I learned that long ago!

[ButterCookie]

*picks up sling and arrows* ;)

[Sleepless-Child]

*picks up sling and arrows* ;)

(Is there a link with Shakespeare, or something ?! :laugh:, who wants to teach me English?)

[ButterCookie]

No :lol: Nikolaj said *avoids slings and arrows* after pointing out a dislike for Patti's voice (I think?) so I "picked up" my slings and arrows because I love her :D

[starshine]

I saw that book for RS at the store & went through it. Those best song lists and LP lists are a joke. We can all disagree with them & probably always will. I did see that GYOW was in there & its funny cause they show Stevie's picture & its actually from the HBO concert from '81 not 1977 picture. I kinda laughed about that...couldn't even get the timeline of the picture right. I used to long time ago get RS but I'd stopped that ages ago too. Most magazines are a joke right now. I don't like People or Ent Weekly none of that stuff ...its all crap really. Anyway, it doesn't matter what these people list as there top whatever.....you like what you like & thats really all that matters.....IMO anyway....:D:shrug:

[Sleepless-Child]

No :lol: Nikolaj said *avoids slings and arrows* after pointing out a dislike for Patti's voice (I think?) so I "picked up" my slings and arrows because I love her :D

Don't make fun of me :lol:
Wait, google translate, what are slings and arrows?..........weapons?! Damn, why weapons?!
:lol: whatever.

[MikeVielhaber]

All their lists are pretty crappy, but the guitarist list is definitely the worst. The omission of Lindsey is bad...but there were other omissions and people who were place embarrassingly low or high. Eddie Van Halen is 70? David Gilmour 82? Jack White 17??!

They threw old school FM fans a bone at least with Peter Green at 38.

[Nikolaj]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie
*picks up sling and arrows*
(Is there a link with Shakespeare, or something ?! , who wants to teach me English?)-- replied someone, wonderfully
*****
I'm so enjoying this! 'Slings And Arrows' actually was the original title for 'Rumours'-

And BC, I did say Patti can write and is well worth reading! I did write that I know Patti Smith is an untouchable!
That's respect!
And out of respect, I will not make the obvious snarky comment I want to, about you saying that I may not care for her voice!! :) :)

I just never realized she had one to like or dislike to begin with!

Dang. Sorry. Untouchable. Untouchable. She is.
PS. I must admit to really loving Smith's version of 'Because The Night' and how she sounds on it. Natalie Merchant's wasn't nearly as good. Love the production on Patti's version, too. Production, of course, was courtesy of one Jimmy Come Back Iovine, who imo, also produced the definitive, epic version of 'Sorcerer' on the Streets of Fire soundtrack.
From my Patti Smith friends, I have learned (thought I had learned?) that it's better not to say that you like her because of 'Because The Night' as it's considered "so uncool for you to only like that song by her, you're better off saying nothing about her at all".

[MissLadyLoki]

All their lists are pretty crappy, but the guitarist list is definitely the worst. The omission of Lindsey is bad...but there were other omissions and people who were place embarrassingly low or high. Eddie Van Halen is 70? David Gilmour 82? Jack White 17??!

They threw old school FM fans a bone at least with Peter Green at 38.

You also forgot another appalling part of that list: Slash was nowhere to be found. I'm sorry, that guy deserves to be on that list, but knowing him, he probably had a snappy comeback.

Another one is Angus Young at 96 of all places and Kurt Cobain way-too-high-up (I think he was like 11).

[Nikolaj]

Seriously, one would be foolish not to respect Patti Smith's status, her 70's NY dates are of legend.
BC, are you familiar with the late Gilda Radner, who was in the first seasons (or, 'series', for those in The UK) of 'Saturday Night Live?'
Gilda reportedly was very taken with Patti, influenced by attending Patti's NY shows, and she came up with this character as an edgy tribute to her. If you've never seen it, you may enjoy it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMF7JrPHT74