I have to express what I'm feeling

[jellyman10]

It's late and I'm a newbie to the Ledge - and yes, drink has been taken - BUT I'm lying here in the dark in my living room, after a night out with friends, sent the spouse to bed alone, and i'm listening -- really LISTENING to 'Tusk' for the first time in a good fifteen years and I have to say that the conclusion I'm coming to is that Stevie is head and shoulders a far, FAR better songwriter and singer than Chris or Lindsey. In fact, it's emabarrassing how piss poor Lindsey's lyrics are on this album.
'Sara' and 'Angel' are classics. In fact, given that 'Sisters of the Moon' and 'Beautiful Child' also grace this album, it's astonishing that anyone would find anything OTHER than Stevie's tracks in ANY way memorable.
She's the real deal. God bless her. xx

[StreetAngel95]

Welcome! and i agree - but...why is this in the Post-Rumours thread?

[Miss Vicky]

Dude, I cannot agree with a single sentence in that entire post.

Also, you're in the wrong forum. This board is for the post-Rumours era line-ups of the band (Billy Burnette, Rick Vito, Bekka Bramlett, Dave Mason and discussions on the albums Behind the Mask and Time) not for just any album released after Rumours. You should have posted this in the Rumours forum.

[jellyman10]

sorry, i thought 'post-rumours' meant album-wise - so 'Tusk' was post-Rumours? glad to be steered to the right place

[jellyman10]

where the hell SHOULD i post my ramblings on this subject?
peace

[Miss Vicky]

Under the link/title of each forum is a description of what is supposed to be discussed there.

The description of the Post-Rumours forum is "Billy Burnette, Rick Vito, Bekka Bramlett, and Dave Mason."

where the hell SHOULD i post my ramblings on this subject?
peace

As stated in my previous post, this should have gone in the Rumours forum. Since "Rumours" refers to the Rumours-era Line-up: Mick, John, Lindsey, Christine (though Say You Will discussions go in the Rumours forum as well), and Stevie.

[jellyman10]

thanks, miss Vicky
I will try to follow the rules
(kinda psyched that you're out there at all right now)
xx

[Miss Vicky]

You're welcome.

You should probably contact a moderator to have this thread moved to the appropriate forum. You'll get more replies once it's in the Rumours forum anyway, as the Post-Rumours era fans are few (though dedicated) and this forum doesn't get much traffic.

[sjpdg]

Dude, I cannot agree with a single sentence in that entire post.

Also, you're in the wrong forum. This board is for the post-Rumours era line-ups of the band (Billy Burnette, Rick Vito, Bekka Bramlett, Dave Mason and discussions on the albums Behind the Mask and Time) not for just any album released after Rumours. You should have posted this in the Rumours forum.

I totally agree! "Over & Over", "Think About Me", "Brown Eyes", "Never Forget Tonight", all not worthy of comparison with Stevie's songs on "Tusk"?????? Really??? I hardly think so.

[Miss Vicky]

I totally agree! "Over & Over", "Think About Me", "Brown Eyes", "Never Forget Tonight", all not worthy of comparison with Stevie's songs on "Tusk"?????? Really??? I hardly think so.



Those are good songs, too, but I'm more of a Lindsey fan.

[jellyman10]

yeh, um ...
well, i've been lurking on the board for a week r so and learned that a sexy subject line goes a long way
BUT point is: you have to picture the scene...
I used to play music for a living - briefly and without notoriety - but my old friend that i did this with rolled thu town last night and reminded me of how much i loved the Mac and Stevie in the 'old days', so here i am sitting up late with the headphones on ( sent the old man to bed) and I thought: 'I'm gonna listen to Tusk'.......
So anyway, I posted something on the 'post-Rumours' forum and got a very deep emotional connection from the lovely people there which basically amounted to 'YOU'RE IN THE WRONG FRICKIN PLACE, BONEHAD!' LOL!!
Anyhoo, feelin all warm n' fuzzy...
I jus LUUUUUUV Stevie's tracks on 'Tusk' - make me cry, make me smile, make me wanna go wake up my man and make out
peace, everyone
xx

[StreetAngel95]

yeh, um ...
well, i've been lurking on the board for a week r so and learned that a sexy subject line goes a long way
BUT point is: you have to picture the scene...
I used to play music for a living - briefly and without notoriety - but my old friend that i did this with rolled thu town last night and reminded me of how much i loved the Mac and Stevie in the 'old days', so here i am sitting up late with the headphones on ( sent the old man to bed) and I thought: 'I'm gonna listen to Tusk'.......
So anyway, I posted something on the 'post-Rumours' forum and got a very deep emotional connection from the lovely people there which basically amounted to 'YOU'RE IN THE WRONG FRICKIN PLACE, BONEHAD!' LOL!!
Anyhoo, feelin all warm n' fuzzy...
I jus LUUUUUUV Stevie's tracks on 'Tusk' - make me cry, make me smile, make me wanna go wake up my man and make out
peace, everyone
xx

i'm starting to like you already! post some more - don't be shy!:wavey::laugh::nod:

I do agree: Stevie's songs were OUTSTANDING, but Linds and Chris had some of their stronger moments on that album as well: ("Save Me a Place", "Tusk", "Never Forget", Brown Eyes")

all in all, there really were no filler tracks - everything there was AMAZING!

[jellyman10]

Hi Streetangel,
Thanks for your reply. Can u tel me whf i'm doin wrong here? I thought i'd gone to right forum n all? I cna't be arsed with gettin aggro from people. I just want to share a feeling.
Peace 2 u.

[Artemis]

I can't help but agree that, on Tusk, the five Stevie songs wipe the floor with Lindsey and Christine's contributions.

Tusk is a brilliant song, and Think About Me is a brilliant song, but the star of Tusk is Stevie, in my opinion, every one of her songs is stellar. Christine and Lindsey both have a few filler tracks (Don't shoot me! xD)

Then again, I hate to be so negative about the other two, so on a positive note - everything Christine does on Tango craps all over Stevie's work on that album from a very great height, and nothing would have been possible without Lindsey's production.

In short. Stevie > Lindsey + Christine on Tusk
Christine > Lindsey > Stevie on Tango In The Night.

Then again, with Lindsey, I've always felt that song-writing isn't his strong point, it's all about the production. As for Stevie, she's a good writer, but she's normally only as good as the person she collaborates with, and on Tusk, her songs wouldn't have been as brilliant as they were without Lindsey's productions.

Christine's the most consistent member, but I feel she brought sub-par material, for the most part, on Tusk - and then wiped the floor with all of them on Tango.

/Ramble.

[jellyman10]

well, you're entitled to your opinion of course, as am i
peace?

[StreetAngel95]

Hi Streetangel,
Thanks for your reply. Can u tel me whf i'm doin wrong here? I thought i'd gone to right forum n all? I cna't be arsed with gettin aggro from people. I just want to share a feeling.
Peace 2 u.

haha well, i don't mean to sound rude, but the Post/Pre Rumours fans are MAD DEDICATED and always voice their opinions (which i think is AWESOME!) I, as a mere 15 yr old, am naive and i reply to almost EVERYTHING. haha it took me a couple days for people to actually reply to what i was saying - don't get down!

the name's Miranda, nice to meet you!

[sjpdg]

Those are good songs, too, but I'm more of a Lindsey fan.

LOL!! Don't get me wrong, I like Lindsey too. His songs "That's Enough For Me" and "Tusk" are awesome. Some of the others seem to be more "variations on a theme" than actually different songs. Many of his tracks on "Tusk" sound very much alike to me. Still like the guy though. "I'm So Afraid" and "Blue Letter" are two of my favourite FM songs of all time.

[jellyman10]

yeh, that chimes with where i'm at with the Mac at the moment
it's cool to be even thinking about this stuff again
i used to be a bit of a Stevie nut but i 'got over it' for about 20 years !!! LOL!
can feeel all the old feelings again, the old magic, tho, ..... hmm
i like Chris's songs too - a LOT actually - but I have to be honest and say that I really do sense that LB just isn't quite on the same level as a songsmith as the Mac women on Tusk
i'm in Edinburgh, by the way, in case anyone cares?
peace in all things
xx

[jellyman10]

thank you, dudette
you sound fine
xx

[tilthefirefades]

Hi Streetangel,
Thanks for your reply. Can u tel me whf i'm doin wrong here? I thought i'd gone to right forum n all? I cna't be arsed with gettin aggro from people. I just want to share a feeling.
Peace 2 u.

:thumbsup: Either you play WoW or you are just using that as an abbreviation for no reason.

On topic, yes Stevie is flawless on Tusk. But so are the other 4, whatever their names are, there is currently chiffon all over my eyes :rolleyes:

[ButterCookie]

the conclusion I'm coming to is that Stevie is head and shoulders a far, FAR better songwriter and singer than Chris or Lindsey.

Hmm. Nope. Respecting your opinion but disagreeing :lol: Everyone round here knows that I more or less worship the ground Christine walks on. Stevie writes beautiful, amazing lyrics but for me, Christine's are better (on the whole and on Tusk)

She was fourteen now? :rolleyes: Okay, Stevie.

it's astonishing that anyone would find anything OTHER than Stevie's tracks in ANY way memorable.
She's the real deal. God bless her. xx

I am being 100% truthful when I tell you that on Tusk, I think Lindsey's songs are most memorable for being so... weird, for lack of a better word :laugh:

Either you play WoW or you are just using that as an abbreviation for no reason.

Nah, it's a common phrase in Britain :laugh:

[MissLadyLoki]

Nice to meet you jellyman. I'm Cassie and I hope you enjoy it here at the Ledge.

I'll be honest: while I feel Tusk has Stevie's best songs (the others have their strong points too, namely Lindsey on Rumours and Christine on Tango in the Night), the whole album, in all it's weirdness, is quite memorable. I mean, how can you NOT forget a live performance of Not That Funny? :laugh:

As for songwriting skill, they're all very different songwriters with very different styles and strong and weak points (and all 3 do make me wanna pull my hair out trying to figure out what the hell they're talking about lol), which is why I enjoy all of them for different reasons.

[michelej1]

(and all 3 do make me wanna pull my hair out trying to figure out what the hell they're talking about lol), which is why I enjoy all of them for different reasons.

I don't pull my hair out trying to figure out what Chris is talking about. I see her meaning as a little more straight forward.

On the other hand, I do think there's a deeper layer and a darker strain to her words than a lot of people give her credit for. I think they're a lot less sugary than they would initially appear to casual fans who like to cheerily croon in sing song voice: "tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies."

I think her songs are mysterious, but only because people aren't listening, not because she's not explaining things exactly. For instance, SYLM, I think most people hear a guy saying he loves her, when it's really about a guy leaving. How does it feel being wooed when you know the woe is just a sunrise away?

Michele

[MissLadyLoki]

I don't pull my hair out trying to figure out what Chris is talking about. I see her meaning as a little more straight forward.

On the other hand, I do think there's a deeper layer and a darker strain to her words than a lot of people give her credit for. I think they're a lot less sugary than they would initially appear to casual fans who like to cheerily croon in sing song voice: "tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies."

I think her songs are mysterious, but only because people aren't listening, not because she's not explaining things exactly. For instance, SYLM, I think most people hear a guy saying he loves her, when it's really about a guy leaving. How does it feel being wooed when you know the woe is just a sunrise away?

Michele

The pulling-my-hair-out part is figuring out WHO she is writing the song to. For example, I love Little Lies, but I dunno who it's about. I do know Sugar Daddy is about no one (and her getting out her silly song in the vein of tunes like Big Balls by AC/DC) and the songs about John, but that's it.

As for the guy part, I thought it was a love song till I gave it a closer listen when I was breaking up with my ex, Tim, last year. I realized she is begging her guy to stop taking advantage of her and, in many ways, Tim did exactly that to me.

[bluefox4000]

Stevie's my 2nd favorite on Tusk. Lindsey Get's my vote on Tusk. ......Actually on everything he does.:nod: However no denying Stevie's greatness on this album.....just not as great as Lindsey....yea I'm Lindsey-centric. Chris on Tusk however loses me pretty much.....save for Think about Me and Over and Over.

Mick

[Dreamz19]

When I first heard Tusk, I was drawn to Lindsey and Christine's songs first. I just liked them more than Stevie's songs and she is my favorite out of the group. Overall, Tusk is an incredible album and showcased everyone pretty well. I love every song on the album except for one.

[StreetAngel95]

^WOAH! Haven't seen you here in awhile! Glad to know Court isn't dead, LOL.

But i agree. I was definitely drawn to Lindsey's songs first. Which song don't you like?

[mylittledemon]

well, you're entitled to your opinion of course, as am i
peace?

Exactly! The very first post you made was simply a matter of opinion. I for one think Lindsey, Stevie and Chris are all equally strong in their own right. I wouldn't say one is better than the other.