Agree or disagree

[MissLadyLoki]

I've played this little game in my Metallica and Led Zeppelin groups on Facebook and I thought I'd bring it to here. Basically, someone makes a statement about the band at hand, the next person say whether or not they agree with it, and then post a new statement. Here's an example:

Person A: John Bonham is a way better drummer than Phil Collins

Person B: Agree
Fade to Black is the best song on Ride the Lightning

And so on. I'll start us off.

Fleetwood Mac sounds better live than in the studio

[Sleepless-Child]

And what if you just can't answer that? ha.

[london]

I've played this little game in my Metallica and Led Zeppelin groups on Facebook and I thought I'd bring it to here. Basically, someone makes a statement about the band at hand, the next person say whether or not they agree with it, and then post a new statement. Here's an example:

Person A: John Bonham is a way better drummer than Phil Collins

Person B: Agree
Fade to Black is the best song on Ride the Lightning

And so on. I'll start us off.

Fleetwood Mac sounds better live than in the studio

Hi MissLadyLoki,

Ooh, that's not an easy question for me to answer, but...I'll go with I agree. Rhiannon on Fleetwood Mac Live (1980) is my favorite version of the song...when I see FMac in concert and The Chain begins, the adrenalin is unbelievable...and when Lindsey plays ISA in concert, that's magic! :D

[Sleepless-Child]

Hi MissLadyLoki,

Ooh, that's not an easy question for me to answer, but...I'll go with I agree. Rhiannon on Fleetwood Mac Live (1980) is my favorite version of the song...when I see FMac in concert and The Chain begins, the adrenalin is unbelievable...and when Lindsey plays ISA in concert, that's magic! :D

(yeah, your answer's cool :). now you have to do an other statement !)

[jaycee]

I've played this little game in my Metallica and Led Zeppelin groups on Facebook and I thought I'd bring it to here. Basically, someone makes a statement about the band at hand, the next person say whether or not they agree with it, and then post a new statement. Here's an example:

Person A: John Bonham is a way better drummer than Phil Collins

Person B: Agree
Fade to Black is the best song on Ride the Lightning

And so on. I'll start us off.

Fleetwood Mac sounds better live than in the studio

Disagree (they just sound different, which I love - it'd be less interesting to see a live show where they sounded exactly the same with exactly the same sounding instrumentation).
"You And I, Pt. I" should've been on TITN instead of "You And I, Pt. II".

[MissLadyLoki]

"You And I, Pt. I" should've been on TITN instead of "You And I, Pt. II".

Agree. I always found it a bit strange that there was a Part II on there, and I always figured Part I was on Mirage or something.

The Rosebud version is the best version of Rhiannon around.

[Sleepless-Child]

Agree. I always found it a bit strange that there was a Part II on there, and I always figured Part I was on Mirage or something.

The Rosebud version is the best version of Rhiannon around.

Yay ! I agree (even if I like the Midnight Special one, but it's similar...)

"Don't stop" is overrated.

[MissLadyLoki]

Yay ! I agree (even if I like the Midnight Special one, but it's similar...)

"Don't stop" is overrated.

Disagree. I love that song to pieces, but I personally find Dreams to be grossely overrated.

The best part of The Chain is John's bass part

[london]

Disagree. I love that song to pieces, but I personally find Dreams to be grossely overrated.

The best part of The Chain is John's bass part

Agree!

Gypsy live doesn't match the magic on the recording.

[chriskisn]

Disagree. I love that song to pieces, but I personally find Dreams to be grossely overrated.

The best part of The Chain is John's bass part

Agree

Stevie Nicks can not manage to keep in time during a live duet

[ButterCookie]

Disagree. I love that song to pieces, but I personally find Dreams to be grossely overrated.

The best part of The Chain is John's bass part

Disagree about Don't Stop being overrated.

Agree about John's bass part in The Chain :D

The Dance version of Tusk is the best recording?

[Sleepless-Child]

Disagree about Don't Stop being overrated.

Agree about John's bass part in The Chain :D

The Dance version of Tusk is the best recording?

DAMMIT ! Dreams is a great song :laugh:

Agreed. God, I remember, once, I put the Dance, and my whole family danced to Tusk. It was a great shared Fleetwood Mac moment.

Crystal is better when Lindsey's singing it.

[MissLadyLoki]

DAMMIT ! Dreams is a great song :laugh:

Agreed. God, I remember, once, I put the Dance, and my whole family danced to Tusk. It was a great shared Fleetwood Mac moment.

Crystal is better when Lindsey's singing it.

I'm not gonna lie, I never actually saw The Dance, but I can tell you that, out of all of the Mac's different video footage, the Tusk doc is my fave.

Agree. Stevie is a good singer and all, but it's the kinda song that works best with Lindsey's voice (both Buckingham Nicks and White Album versions).

Christine's best songs are on Tango in the Night (Everywhere, Little Lies, etc.)

[ButterCookie]

I'm not gonna lie, I never actually saw The Dance, but I can tell you that, out of all of the Mac's different video footage, the Tusk doc is my fave.

Agree. Stevie is a good singer and all, but it's the kinda song that works best with Lindsey's voice (both Buckingham Nicks and White Album versions).

Christine's best songs are on Tango in the Night (Everywhere, Little Lies, etc.)

Partly agree, partly disagree. She was on FIRE in 1987 but there's absolute diamonds throughout her entire career.

Neither Stevie or Chris should ever have been allowed near hair crimpers. Or anyone, really.

[MissLadyLoki]

Partly agree, partly disagree. She was on FIRE in 1987 but there's absolute diamonds throughout her entire career.

Neither Stevie or Chris should ever have been allowed near hair crimpers. Or anyone, really.

Lol agree. Same goes for Mick and razors.

Of all of Stevie's looks over the years, she looked her best (and absolutely adorable) with that shaggy haircut around the White Album.

[Sleepless-Child]

Lol agree. Same goes for Mick and razors.

Of all of Stevie's looks over the years, she looked her best (and absolutely adorable) with that shaggy haircut around the White Album.

Well...I don't know. No, disagree, my favorite Stevie look was around Rumours, but, it's true, the White Album era was too cool. She was still...innocent :)

Let's try this one..."I'm so afraid" live becomes boring (:sorry:), and should be replaced by Tango in the Night.

[MissLadyLoki]

Well...I don't know. No, disagree, my favorite Stevie look was around Rumours, but, it's true, the White Album era was too cool. She was still...innocent :)

Let's try this one..."I'm so afraid" live becomes boring (:sorry:), and should be replaced by Tango in the Night.

Disagree partly. I'm So Afraid is a big part of why they put on such killer live shows, but yeah, I'd love to see Tango in the Night or maybe even some Buckingham Nicks performed live too.

Silver Springs is a very good song, but it never quite fits on Rumours.

[Sleepless-Child]

Disagree partly. I'm So Afraid is a big part of why they put on such killer live shows, but yeah, I'd love to see Tango in the Night or maybe even some Buckingham Nicks performed live too.

Silver Springs is a very good song, but it never quite fits on Rumours.

Ah. well, I don't know, I never tried to replace I don't want to know by Silver Springs. I love Rumours the way it was released...but maybe I'd love it even more with Silver Springs. I don't know.

I think this thread is too cool.

[MissLadyLoki]

Ah. well, I don't know, I never tried to replace I don't want to know by Silver Springs. I love Rumours the way it was released...but maybe I'd love it even more with Silver Springs. I don't know.

I think this thread is too cool.

Agree. it was too cool when i started it at this group way back when and it seems to be a hit here: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000727985275#!/group.php?gid=2204900257&ref=ts

Now, a new statement:

The Mac should have performed a no-longer-performed oldie like Sisters of the Moon or Blue Letter on last year's tour (but it was still a blast)

[Sleepless-Child]

Agree. it was too cool when i started it at this group way back when and it seems to be a hit here: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000727985275#!/group.php?gid=2204900257&ref=ts

Now, a new statement:

The Mac should have performed a no-longer-performed oldie like Sisters of the Moon or Blue Letter on last year's tour (but it was still a blast)

(I joined the group, I LOVE Led Zep')

Yes, yes YES ! I don't know if SOTM could work, but Blue Letter, definitely. (btw, I'm gonna stop answering, I'll wait that someone else answers :))

Anyway, here's a statement :
On the Unleashed Tour, Lindsey ruined one of his best songs : Never Going Back Again. The Say You will tour version was 10 times better.

[MissLadyLoki]

(I joined the group, I LOVE Led Zep')

Yes, yes YES ! I don't know if SOTM could work, but Blue Letter, definitely. (btw, I'm gonna stop answering, I'll wait that someone else answers :))

Anyway, here's a statement :
On the Unleashed Tour, Lindsey ruined one of his best songs : Never Going Back Again. The Say You will tour version was 10 times better.

Since no one else has come yet, I'll say agree in a way. I like it when someone changes up a song, but he didn't do it well there. Still dig that one from the Japan show where Mick and John are playing on it.

Of all of Lindsey's assets, his eyes are probably his best.

[ButterCookie]

Since no one else has come yet, I'll say agree in a way. I like it when someone changes up a song, but he didn't do it well there. Still dig that one from the Japan show where Mick and John are playing on it.

Of all of Lindsey's assets, his eyes are probably his best.

Partly agree. But that Rumours afro was friggen amazing :shocked:

I can't think of another statement though :lol:

[holidayroad]

Agree or disagree............Lindsey should stop singing 'Go Your Own Way' live because, as much as I love him, the live vocal is getting absolutely cringe-worthy. It's bad when I feel bad for him when he sings it!!!!:lol:

[MissLadyLoki]

Partly agree. But that Rumours afro was friggen amazing :shocked:

I can't think of another statement though :lol:

The fro was amazing, made him look really "rock and roll" :cool:

I got a new statement: the "scar" (a song on an album that is not quite as strong as the other songs or doesn't quite belong, a prime example being Her Majesty on Abbey Road) on Tusk would have to be Not That Funny (but it kills live)

[holidayroad]

The fro was amazing, made him look really "rock and roll" :cool:

I got a new statement: the "scar" (a song on an album that is not quite as strong as the other songs or doesn't quite belong, a prime example being Her Majesty on Abbey Road) on Tusk would have to be Not That Funny (but it kills live)

I like 'Not That Funny', live and on Tusk (but it Is better live). The scar on Tusk is 'Save Me a Place'. It's the only FM Lindsey song that I dislike.

[Sleepless-Child]

Agree or disagree............Lindsey should stop singing 'Go Your Own Way' live because, as much as I love him, the live vocal is getting absolutely cringe-worthy. It's bad when I feel bad for him when he sings it!!!!:lol:

NO ! I agree with you, it's painful, but to me, songs like Rhiannon and Go Your Own Way NEED to be played at every single Fleetwood Mac show...even if both sound terrible today :laugh:
(I LOVE Not that Funny...and Save me a place :shrug:)

Statement : Paper Doll is not that bad :D

[holidayroad]

Agree, I like Paper Doll..........but what do I know!!!

agree or disagree.......for the next Fleetwood Mac tour, Stevie and Lindsey should sing the complete Buckingham Nicks album....and no other songs.

[tilthefirefades]

They should! But I was listening to an interview, and Stevie said they did some of the songs from BN live?! She talked about how difficult it was to do Frozen Love, does anyone have this?!?

[holidayroad]

They should! But I was listening to an interview, and Stevie said they did some of the songs from BN live?! She talked about how difficult it was to do Frozen Love, does anyone have this?!?

Frozen Love live mp3:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/belf2v

[StreetAngel95]

Agree, I like Paper Doll..........but what do I know!!!

agree or disagree.......for the next Fleetwood Mac tour, Stevie and Lindsey should sing the complete Buckingham Nicks album....and no other songs.

uh...disagree...sorta. They should play BN songs mixed in with the classics.

"Silver Girl" is actually a very strong piece of music from SYW:nod:

[MissLadyLoki]

uh...disagree...sorta. They should play BN songs mixed in with the classics.

"Silver Girl" is actually a very strong piece of music from SYW:nod:

Can't say cause I dunno SYW. Sorry :distress:

As awesome as the acoustic Big Love is, they should start playing it in it's original form (like they did with Go Insane on the last tour, but I never got why Lindsey sits right when song finished at my show*), complete with Lindsey and Stevie doing the love grunts




*If you don't believe me, here's proof of what I saw.tart watching around 2:50 and you'll see
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[StreetAngel95]

Can't say cause I dunno SYW. Sorry :distress: but I do know Peacekeeper from it, and that's a cool song

As awesome as the acoustic Big Love is, they should start playing it in it's original form, complete with Lindsey and Stevie doing the love grunts

AGREEEEEEEE - Eargasm! LOL

Stevie needs to change up her wardrobe a tad.....

[MissLadyLoki]

AGREEEEEEEE - Eargasm! LOL

Stevie needs to change up her wardrobe a tad.....

Agree. I think she'd look good in some Chucks (hey, I'm around her height and I love mine), some jeans, and a little color in her outfits.

Mick needs to go back to doing those African drum solos during World Turning

[jaycee]

As awesome as the acoustic Big Love is, they should start playing it in it's original form (like they did with Go Insane on the last tour, but I never got why Lindsey sits right when song finished at my show*), complete with Lindsey and Stevie doing the love grunts

For the sake of being pedantic, it was never Stevie who did the feminine "love grunts" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Love_%28Fleetwood_Mac_song%29#Background. (I was so surprised when I read that! :shocked:)

[MissLadyLoki]

For the sake of being pedantic, it was never Stevie who did the feminine "love grunts" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Love_%28Fleetwood_Mac_song%29#Background. (I was so surprised when I read that! :shocked:)

I knew it was Lindsey doing 'em, but I still think it'd be hilarious to see both of them doing it on stage, thrusting their hips suggestively while looking at each other.

New statement: A live performance of Not That Funny is both funnier (and more disturbing) than the drum solo Mick did where he "played" himself

[MikeVielhaber]

For the sake of being pedantic, it was never Stevie who did the feminine "love grunts" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Love_%28Fleetwood_Mac_song%29#Background. (I was so surprised when I read that! :shocked:)

I'm not sure it ever occurred to me that it might be Stevie. Doesn't sound like her at all.

[michelej1]

I'm not sure it ever occurred to me that it might be Stevie. Doesn't sound like her at all.

I don't think I ever thought it was Lindsey either, but I remember Letterman used to make a lot of jokes about it being Stevie making those sounds at the time.

I tend to think Lindsey is doing everything. I thought he was the children's voices at the end of SYW before we learned otherwise.

Of course, I always knew that was him crowing on Peacekeeper.

Micheel

[StreetAngel95]

New statement: A live performance of Not That Funny is both funnier (and more disturbing) than the drum solo Mick did where he "played" himself

agreed! although i do like Mick playing himself...LOL

New Statement: Klonopin Stevie was MAD SEXY! (can i post this in a "Rumours" forum?)

[sjpdg]

Agree. I think she'd look good in some Chucks (hey, I'm around her height and I love mine), some jeans, and a little color in her outfits.

Mick needs to go back to doing those African drum solos during World Turning

Agreed!!!! Mick killed that drum solo on the "Tango" tour. Blew me away on that tour, but I would love to see him do more of a percussion/drum solo (no vest, that act is old) than what we got on this last tour (saw the videos on YouTube). I'd actually like to see him do a "drum battle" type thing with another percussionist on that song. I think it would be awesome!

New statement: John's bass line in "The Chain" is one of the most memorable in all of rock and roll history.

[APerfectLie]

uh...disagree...sorta. They should play BN songs mixed in with the classics.

"Silver Girl" is actually a very strong piece of music from SYW:nod:

Agree.

Joan Of Arc should have been on TITN instead of When I See You Again.

[MissLadyLoki]

Agreed!!!! Mick killed that drum solo on the "Tango" tour. Blew me away on that tour, but I would love to see him do more of a percussion/drum solo (no vest, that act is old) than what we got on this last tour (saw the videos on YouTube). I'd actually like to see him do a "drum battle" type thing with another percussionist on that song. I think it would be awesome!

New statement: John's bass line in "The Chain" is one of the most memorable in all of rock and roll history.

Agree totally, and one of his finest around. And as for the drum battle, maybe Mick could go up against a person from the audience that plays the drums every night. That should be seriously awesome.

New statement: As good a song Sara is, it'd sound a bit better on Rumours than on Tusk (but both albums are still fantastic in their own right)

[Sleepless-Child]

Agree totally, and one of his finest around. And as for the drum battle, maybe Mick could go up against a person from the audience that plays the drums every night. That should be seriously awesome.

New statement: As good a song Sara is, it'd sound a bit better on Rumours than on Tusk (but both albums are still fantastic in their own right)

Disagree. I think that Sara belongs to Tusk. Stevie's lyrics really evolved, they were more real on Rumours (Dreams, or I don't want to know) than on Tusk, and that's why I think that Sara perfectly fits this album. It's kinda blurred, just like Angel, or Beautiful Child. What's more, Lindsey arranged it in a tusky way : it's a little messy, but absolutely beautiful, just like on Brown Eyes (IMO, of course). After all, the main thing on Tusk was to be "experimental", and I think that Sara could have been a lot more simple as a song, if it was on Rumours. But it isn't. Its progression (with the drums, the piano and everything), the harmonies, and Stevie's airy vocals make it a studio gem.

Here's my statement : "When I see you again" is the worst Fleetwood Mac song ever. (along with Peacekeeper).

[StreetAngel95]

Disagree. I think that Sara belongs to Tusk. Stevie's lyrics really evolved, they were more real on Rumours (Dreams, or I don't want to know) than on Tusk, and that's why I think that Sara perfectly fits this album. It's kinda blurred, just like Angel, or Beautiful Child. What's more, Lindsey arranged it in a tusky way : it's a little messy, but absolutely beautiful, just like on Brown Eyes (IMO, of course). After all, the main thing on Tusk was to be "experimental", and I think that Sara could have been a lot more simple as a song, if it was on Rumours. But it isn't. Its progression (with the drums, the piano and everything), the harmonies, and Stevie's airy vocals make it a studio gem.

Here's my statement : "When I see you again" is the worst Fleetwood Mac song ever. (along with Peacekeeper).

OMG disagree!!!!! I listen to "WISYA" as one of my "Rock n Roll Lullabies" when i go to sleep - it's gorgeous! And Peacekeeper is awesome! Their worst song is "These Strange Times"...it almost makes me wanna kill myself...even though it is very gorgeous.

New Statement: I don't wish that Lindsey stayed with the band in '87. Fate could've had a totally different track for Fleetwood Mac.

[Sleepless-Child]

OMG disagree!!!!! I listen to "WISYA" as one of my "Rock n Roll Lullabies" when i go to sleep - it's gorgeous! And Peacekeeper is awesome! Their worst song is "These Strange Times"...it almost makes me wanna kill myself...even though it is very gorgeous.

New Statement: I don't wish that Lindsey stayed with the band in '87. Fate could've had a totally different track for Fleetwood Mac.

(:laugh: I knew that everyone would disagree with that, but I had to say it. I wholeheartedly hate these songs.)

Well, about your statement, I just don't know. But they really needed a break, at that time, maybe to come back stronger. The beginning of the 90's was a bad time for the whole band, except for Lindsey, so I'm glad he did "Out of the Cradle" on his own, which is one of my favourite albums of all-time.

"Temporary one" is a joke, and I obviously want everyone on the forum to hate me :D.

[RickRobert]

Disagree, best Chris song ever!

Statement... You & I Part 1 should have been on Tango aswell as Part 2 :distress:

[StreetAngel95]

Disagree, best Chris song ever!

Statement... You & I Part 1 should have been on Tango aswell as Part 2 :distress:


agree - i love it so much! IT has a very Beach Boysey sound to it, and it's the most played song on my ipod. ever. (i just looked this up)

New Statement: The unedited version of Sara should've been on Tusk (i couldn't think of any other statement...)

[MissLadyLoki]

agree - i love it so much! IT has a very Beach Boysey sound to it, and it's the most played song on my ipod. ever. (i just looked this up)

New Statement: The unedited version of Sara should've been on Tusk (i couldn't think of any other statement...)

Agree. I never heard it, but I heard there's a whole lotta verses about each member of the band (wonder what she wrote about John...)

New statement: Based on what I've heard, Law and Order seems like one of the most unintentionally hilarious albums of all-time.

[StreetAngel95]

Agree. I never heard it, but I heard there's a whole lotta verses about each member of the band (wonder what she wrote about John...)

New statement: Based on what I've heard, Law and Order seems like one of the most unintentionally hilarious albums of all-time.

agree! I listen to it whenever i'm feeling down.

New Statement: on Rolling Stone's Revised List of 500 Greatest Songs, "Rhiannon" should not have been pushed down to 488!!!!!!!!:eek:

[aleuzzi]

Agree. I never heard it, but I heard there's a whole lotta verses about each member of the band (wonder what she wrote about John...)

New statement: Based on what I've heard, Law and Order seems like one of the most unintentionally hilarious albums of all-time.

Law and Order is a fine, quirky album and it's hard for me to imagine Lindsey wasn't aware of its hilarity. But then who knows? Russ Meyer was serious about Roger Ebert's campy script for Meyer's Beyond the Valley of the Dolls...

New Statement: Both "You and I's" should have been on Tango--and one of Stevie's side-two disasters swapped out. Alternate problem-solver: "Planets" should have been recorded in place of either "WISYA" or "WTTRS."

[ButterCookie]

Law and Order is a fine, quirky album and it's hard for me to imagine Lindsey wasn't aware of its hilarity. But then who knows? Russ Meyer was serious about Roger Ebert's campy script for Meyer's Beyond the Valley of the Dolls...

New Statement: Both "You and I's" should have been on Tango--and one of Stevie's side-two disasters swapped out. Alternate problem-solver: "Planets" should have been recorded in place of either "WISYA" or "WTTRS."

Agree completely. Switch WTTRS for You & I Part 1 :thumbsup:

[Sleepless-Child]

agree! I listen to it whenever i'm feeling down.

New Statement: on Rolling Stone's Revised List of 500 Greatest Songs, "Rhiannon" should not have been pushed down to 488!!!!!!!!:eek:

AGREED. But, Rolling Stone is so biased...


And, speaking of that (I think Go your Own Way was 170 or something), Rhiannon is a better song than Go your own Way :D (ok, hit me)

[DefDumbandBlond]

I like Rhiannon more than GYOW as well, still a great song but Rhiannon just has 'something more' to it.

[MissLadyLoki]

AGREED. But, Rolling Stone is so biased...


And, speaking of that (I think Go your Own Way was 170 or something), Rhiannon is a better song than Go your own Way :D (ok, hit me)

Agree. Go Your Own Way is my favorite F-Mac song, but Rhiannon is great too and it did put them and Stevie on the map.

New statement (this one is gonna be from silly boredom): Based on this pic of Lindsey here, you do NOT wanna be in a dark alley with him.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn2/michelej1/Lindsey%20Buckingham/hpqscan0001.jpg

[DefDumbandBlond]

Oh dear god :eek:

[MissLadyLoki]

Oh dear god :eek:

:laugh:

I'll take that as an agree.

New statement: It is a travesty of the highest degree that Lindsey didn't make Rolling Stone's list of the top 100 guitarists

[Sleepless-Child]

:laugh:

I'll take that as an agree.

New statement: It is a travesty of the highest degree that Lindsey didn't make Rolling Stone's list of the top 100 guitarists

Rolling Stone is definitely biased. I find it funny that their 2 first songs of the Greatest Songs of All-time are "Like a Rolling Stone" by Bob Dylan, and "Satisfaction" by the Rolling Stones. Ha. Surprising. So I absolutely agree...though Lindsey isn't on any guitarist list.


(I'll let someone make a new statement, don't have any interesting idea)

[MissLadyLoki]

Rolling Stone is definitely biased. I find it funny that their 2 first songs of the Greatest Songs of All-time are "Like a Rolling Stone" by Bob Dylan, and "Satisfaction" by the Rolling Stones. Ha. Surprising. So I absolutely agree...though Lindsey isn't on any guitarist list.


(I'll let someone make a new statement, don't have any interesting idea)

Music and movie lists are more or less created by childish idiots who want to be "obscure" or to look "cool". I say just ignore 'em.

OT, but does anyone know what songs, aside from Blue Denim, does Stevie write about Lindsey's eyes?

New statement: As good a title Rumours is for the album, it's original title, Yesterday's Gone, was just as good

[Peestie]

New statement: As good a title Rumours is for the album, it's original title, Yesterday's Gone, was just as good

Disagree. Yesterday's Gone just doesn't sound like it'd fit with the music as well. Yesterday's Gone would fit better with wistful or nostalgic songs more than what ended up on Rumours.

New statement: Lindsey should have kept his Gift of Screws songs and released them as a solo album instead of SYW.

[Sleepless-Child]

Disagree. Yesterday's Gone just doesn't sound like it'd fit with the music as well. Yesterday's Gone would fit better with wistful or nostalgic songs more than what ended up on Rumours.

New statement: Lindsey should have kept his Gift of Screws songs and released them as a solo album instead of SYW.

Disagree. GOS is already good enough as a solo album. And Fleetwood Mac is always a way for Lindsey to promote his songs, because, face it, Fleetwood Mac sales a lot more than Lindsey, Stevie or Christine solo. Well, that's how I think. Also, I always thought that Fleetwood Mac were better together (even if, without Christine, it's not the same thing anymore).


New statement : Lindsey was not the only driving force behind Fleetwood Mac. As much as I love him, take a song like Rhiannon : listen to the Buckingham/Nicks version, and then, listen to the White Album version, and tell me how you feel about it. The McVie's and Mick were definitely there too.

[MissLadyLoki]

Disagree. GOS is already good enough as a solo album. And Fleetwood Mac is always a way for Lindsey to promote his songs, because, face it, Fleetwood Mac sales a lot more than Lindsey, Stevie or Christine solo. Well, that's how I think. Also, I always thought that Fleetwood Mac were better together (even if, without Christine, it's not the same thing anymore).


New statement : Lindsey was not the only driving force behind Fleetwood Mac. As much as I love him, take a song like Rhiannon : listen to the Buckingham/Nicks version, and then, listen to the White Album version, and tell me how you feel about it. The McVie's and Mick were definitely there too.

Agree. Lindsey did have a huge part, but if it wasn't for Mick, John, Stevie, and Christine too, they wouldn't be the wonderful supergroup we know and love today.

New statement: Mick is a way better drummer than Phil Collins

[MikeVielhaber]

Agree. Lindsey did have a huge part, but if it wasn't for Mick, John, Stevie, and Christine too, they wouldn't be the wonderful supergroup we know and love today.

New statement: Mick is a way better drummer than Phil Collins

Disagree....he's neither way better or better. He's a no doubt a good drummer and fits perfectly with his band's music. Phil Collins is more technically proficient. Phil also has one of those most identifiable sounds and styles. He also contributes singing and songwriting.

I don't have a good new statement to make...someone else can take over.

[MissLadyLoki]

Disagree....he's neither way better or better. He's a no doubt a good drummer and fits perfectly with his band's music. Phil Collins is more technically proficient. Phil also has one of those most identifiable sounds and styles. He also contributes singing and songwriting.

I don't have a good new statement to make...someone else can take over.

I never cared for Phil as a drummer, but I do like the songs from Tarzan (hey, I was 9 when it came out).

New statement: If a second Buckingham Nicks album had been made, it probably would have been a much bigger hit than it's predecessor.

[MikeVielhaber]

I never cared for Phil as a drummer, but I do like the songs from Tarzan (hey, I was 9 when it came out).


Sorry to go off topic here.....I don't know if you've heard much of Phil's stuff or if you've just heard the radio hits being as young as you are and not being a fan of his....He's still a great drummer, but he didn't tend to show off much in his solo career which is more pop based. Oddly enough I am a big fan and I only first heard the Tarzan songs within the past several months (apart from the big hit). I had never seen the movie until then, but I really like the tunes. I digress....In Genesis, which was initially a progressive rock band and later included more of a pop sound, there's plenty of great drumming. They had lots extended instrumental passages and what not. He was also in a band called Brand X where he shows off his chops a lot too. Just FYI.

[aleuzzi]

New statement: If a second Buckingham Nicks album had been made, it probably would have been a much bigger hit than it's predecessor.

Possibly, but they might have been encouraged to pursue a country-rock, early-period Eagles-influenced sound more fully than they did with Mac. The Fleetwood-McVie-McVie commitment to the blues and Christine's unusual voice complicated the mix of the band's combined talents in unexpected ways.


New statement: "Never Forget" is a great little tune that deserved a more imaginative arrangement, especially in terms of the guitar solo, which is uncharacteristically dull.

[jaycee]

Possibly, but they might have been encouraged to pursue a country-rock, early-period Eagles-influenced sound more fully than they did with Mac. The Fleetwood-McVie-McVie commitment to the blues and Christine's unusual voice complicated the mix of the band's combined talents in unexpected ways.


New statement: "Never Forget" is a great little tune that deserved a more imaginative arrangement, especially in terms of the guitar solo, which is uncharacteristically dull.

Disagree - I love it as it is. :)
On their next tour, FM should play a few songs from TITN.

[Peestie]

Disagree - I love it as it is. :)
On their next tour, FM should play a few songs from TITN.

Agree. Or rather Lindsey should play some of his. Never bother with Stevie's.

New statement: Tusk has dated well and doesn't sound stuck in the 70s.

[MissLadyLoki]

Agree. Or rather Lindsey should play some of his. Never bother with Stevie's.

New statement: Tusk has dated well and doesn't sound stuck in the 70s.

Agree. IMO, a great album will sound timeless no matter when you listen (and some other greats do sound a tad dated, like some of Slayer's stuff, but that's fine), and Tusk doesn't really sound like any era to me (maybe it has a bit to do with it's strangeness).

New statement: Next time the Mac go on tour, they should try to do the Buckingham Nicks song Frozen Love

[ButterCookie]

Agree. IMO, a great album will sound timeless no matter when you listen (and some other greats do sound a tad dated, like some of Slayer's stuff, but that's fine), and Tusk doesn't really sound like any era to me (maybe it has a bit to do with it's strangeness).

New statement: Next time the Mac go on tour, they should try to do the Buckingham Nicks song Frozen Love

Agree! Definatley :thumbsup:

New statement: Prove Your Love is one of the most beautiful FM tracks recorded. The whole band work together to make it phenomenal?

[MissLadyLoki]

Agree! Definatley :thumbsup:

New statement: Prove Your Love is one of the most beautiful FM tracks recorded. The whole band work together to make it phenomenal?

Agree, but Beautiful Child is too.

New statement: Tusk doc>Rosebud doc

[Sleepless-Child]

Agree, but Beautiful Child is too.

New statement: Tusk doc>Rosebud doc

Of course. Tusk doc's 10 times better. The studio footages are priceless (Lindsey, don't you know that I love you?), just as the live performances...everything shines on it.

Now i'm gonna admit that I actually never saw Rosebud, so, yes, definitely Tusk doc :D. (and thank God for this thread, I'm bored)


Say You love me should'nt be sung anymore.

[MissLadyLoki]

Of course. Tusk doc's 10 times better. The studio footages are priceless (Lindsey, don't you know that I love you?), just as the live performances...everything shines on it.

Now i'm gonna admit that I actually never saw Rosebud, so, yes, definitely Tusk doc :D. (and thank God for this thread, I'm bored)


Say You love me should'nt be sung anymore.

Rosebud is good, but very short, only half an hour, but the Rhiannon and I'm So Afraid on there are to die for.

Disagree. Say You Love Me is a great Christine song, but having Lindsey and Stevie perform it gives it a new flavor, kinda like Big Love going acoustic.

New statement: Lindsey should go back to wearing that white shirt from Say You Will

[ButterCookie]

Say You love me should'nt be sung anymore.

Agree. I gave it a chance with an open mind but it only broke my heart. For me, the banjo and having John sing was the best new flavour it's been given :)

New statement: Lindsey should go back to wearing that white shirt from Say You Will

Oh definatley agree! I love that shirt!!

Big Love live > Big Love studio

[MissLadyLoki]

Agree. I gave it a chance with an open mind but it only broke my heart. For me, the banjo and having John sing was the best new flavour it's been given :)



Oh definatley agree! I love that shirt!!

Big Love live > Big Love studio

Agree! I was never crazy for the studio version at all, but acoustic rules.

New statement: if there was any Mac song that'd actually be appropriate for a wedding, Songbird would be it

[MikeVielhaber]

Agree. I gave it a chance with an open mind but it only broke my heart. For me, the banjo and having John sing was the best new flavour it's been given :)


I never could hear John's vocals in that...he's certainly not very loud. What part is he singing anyway? I couldn't even tell what he's singing by looking at the video.

[ButterCookie]

He's oooh-ing away :lol:

[MissLadyLoki]

He's oooh-ing away :lol:

I saw parts of it and I was trying to see how Lindsey was playing the banjo, but wasn't there some Mirage B-side he sang on called Blue Water or something?

[StreetAngel95]

I saw parts of it and I was trying to see how Lindsey was playing the banjo, but wasn't there some Mirage B-side he sang on called Blue Water or something?

yeah, it was a B-Side to "Gypsy", and was a cover of a folk song by the Sons of the Pioneers. It goes back to Lindsey's roots and what he loves the most!

[MissLadyLoki]

yeah, it was a B-Side to "Gypsy", and was a cover of a folk song by the Sons of the Pioneers. It goes back to Lindsey's roots and what he loves the most!

Wait...based on what I saw in the Tusk doc, wasn't John a deep harmony on Save Me A Place too?

[StreetAngel95]

Wait...based on what I saw in the Tusk doc, wasn't John a deep harmony on Save Me A Place too?

i believe so....not completely sure...:o

[MissLadyLoki]

i believe so....not completely sure...:o

I bet probably someone else knows. Onto the thread!

New statement: The cover on that 2 disc greatest-hits looks way cooler than the one on the single-disc one.

[StreetAngel95]

I bet probably someone else knows. Onto the thread!

New statement: The cover on that 2 disc greatest-hits looks way cooler than the one on the single-disc one.

disagree! The first Greatest Hits album was my very first cassette and i love it! It's simple and pretty.:nod:

New Statement: um....i can't think of one. somebody help me out....:p

[MissLadyLoki]

disagree! The first Greatest Hits album was my very first cassette and i love it! It's simple and pretty.:nod:

New Statement: um....i can't think of one. somebody help me out....:p

OK, I got one!

New statement: Of all of Stevie's hairstyles, that bun-thing from Sara during the Tusk doc is far and away her most heinous

[StreetAngel95]

OK, I got one!

New statement: Of all of Stevie's hairstyles, that bun-thing from Sara during the Tusk doc is far and away her most heinous

gonna have to disagree again! I like the Hiroshima hairstyle - when Stevie dyed her hair black/wore a wig during the Timespace era, that was her most heinous.
http://i46.tinypic.com/1088y6t.jpg

New Statement: (Lindsey Solo statement, actually) "Slow Dancing" should end a whole lot later, so we can hear more of the guitar work at the end!:nod:

[Peestie]

New Statement: (Lindsey Solo statement, actually) "Slow Dancing" should end a whole lot later, so we can hear more of the guitar work at the end!:nod:
I agree. It's nice.

New statement: Fleetwood Mac write all new songs from the ground up for the (theoretical) next album and not bring in any old demos as has been done in the past.

[MissLadyLoki]

I agree. It's nice.

New statement: Fleetwood Mac write all new songs from the ground up for the (theoretical) next album and not bring in any old demos as has been done in the past.

Partly agree. New stuff is great, but sometimes, the oldies that never quite got beyond a demo could be interesting to hear completed too.

New statement: (sorry, more bad hair after the Stevie one) Of all of Lindsey's various hair styles over the years (he's right up there with Roger Daltrey for awesome rocker hair), his Go Insane one is by far the worst

[aleuzzi]

New statement: (sorry, more bad hair after the Stevie one) Of all of Lindsey's various hair styles over the years (he's right up there with Roger Daltrey for awesome rocker hair), his Go Insane one is by far the worst

Yeah, it was. Ever see him standing in the back row for We are the World? His hair towers over so many people!

New Statement: SYW offers Stevie's best contribution to any studio Mac record since Tusk.

[tilthefirefades]

Yeah, it was. Ever see him standing in the back row for We are the World? His hair towers over so many people!

New Statement: SYW offers Stevie's best contribution to any studio Mac record since Tusk.

I kinda disagree, only because of Straight Back.

[MissLadyLoki]

I kinda disagree, only because of Straight Back.

I also gotta disagree, cause Mirage did have Gypsy, and I do love that song.

New statement: Monday Morning is a fine example where the first song on a first album (in this case of a new era) does a good job of setting up what else is in store.

[jaycee]

I also gotta disagree, cause Mirage did have Gypsy, and I do love that song.

New statement: Monday Morning is a fine example where the first song on a first album (in this case of a new era) does a good job of setting up what else is in store.

Disagree - you know, I've only ever enjoyed having "Monday Morning" as the first track three times, and they were all on the same day - at the concert of 15/12/09, and later that night when I played CD1 of TVBOFM twice. Mind, I thought "Monday Morning" would be the perfect concert opener, and it was. (And I was in such a rockin' mood after the concert I loved hearing it as the first track on TVBOFM.) But when it comes to their album and compilations, I don't like it as the first track. I've done lengthy explanations of why in posts of long ago. Needless to say (coming from me), I don't think it's quite like much of their other music, in that it always seems way, way louder than anything else they've done... at least to me. Also, I prefer at least a little instrumentation to open an album. So, no, it says nothing about what else is in store. ("The Chain", however... :D) "Over My Head" would've been the better opener imo.
(Phew, that was long! :rolleyes:)
Although old hat by now, "The Chain" really is the most suitable opener for any FM compilation.

[MissLadyLoki]

Disagree - you know, I've only ever enjoyed having "Monday Morning" as the first track three times, and they were all on the same day - at the concert of 15/12/09, and later that night when I played CD1 of TVBOFM twice. Mind, I thought "Monday Morning" would be the perfect concert opener, and it was. (And I was in such a rockin' mood after the concert I loved hearing it as the first track on TVBOFM.) But when it comes to their album and compilations, I don't like it as the first track. I've done lengthy explanations of why in posts of long ago. Needless to say (coming from me), I don't think it's quite like much of their other music, in that it always seems way, way louder than anything else they've done... at least to me. Also, I prefer at least a little instrumentation to open an album. So, no, it says nothing about what else is in store. ("The Chain", however... :D) "Over My Head" would've been the better opener imo.
(Phew, that was long! :rolleyes:)
Although old hat by now, "The Chain" really is the most suitable opener for any FM compilation.

Agree. The Chain is their signature song and I still think it should have opened Rumours instead of open the second side on vinyl.

New statement: While Gold Dust Woman is a great song, Songbird should have been the closer to Rumours instead of that.

[jaycee]

Agree. The Chain is their signature song and I still think it should have opened Rumours instead of open the second side on vinyl.

New statement: While Gold Dust Woman is a great song, Songbird should have been the closer to Rumours instead of that.

Partly agree - in the absence of "Silver Springs", I wholeheartedly agree. (I guess that should technically be a full agreement, but I just think of the 2004 remaster...)
While "Never Forget" is a great closer to Tusk, "Brown Eyes" could do the job just as well, if not better. :)

[MissLadyLoki]

Partly agree - in the absence of "Silver Springs", I wholeheartedly agree. (I guess that should technically be a full agreement, but I just think of the 2004 remaster...)
While "Never Forget" is a great closer to Tusk, "Brown Eyes" could do the job just as well, if not better. :)

Agree. On many albums, especially ones with an epic feel, there needs to be something a bit slower and calming to close it off (for example, Dark Side of the Moon closes with a beating heart) or exciting and fun to go out with a bang (for example, Who's Next closes off with the awesomeness of Roger Daltrey screaming on Won't Get Fooled Again). Tusk is an album that needs something relaxing after all the weirdness, and Brown Eyes just does that, not to mention it's just a good song.

New statement: The old Rolling Stone cover from 1977 of all of 'em in bed could have been a lot better if we didn't have to see Mick without a shirt on and more of Lindsey without one.

[ButterCookie]

Agree. On many albums, especially ones with an epic feel, there needs to be something a bit slower and calming to close it off (for example, Dark Side of the Moon closes with a beating heart) or exciting and fun to go out with a bang (for example, Who's Next closes off with the awesomeness of Roger Daltrey screaming on Won't Get Fooled Again). Tusk is an album that needs something relaxing after all the weirdness, and Brown Eyes just does that, not to mention it's just a good song.

New statement: The old Rolling Stone cover from 1977 of all of 'em in bed could have been a lot better if we didn't have to see Mick without a shirt on and more of Lindsey without one.

Agreed! :lol: The one of Christine without a shirt still cracks me up. The way she's holding onto the sheet for dear life makes it look like someone's about to steal it!

[MissLadyLoki]

Agreed! :lol: The one of Christine without a shirt still cracks me up. The way she's holding onto the sheet for dear life makes it look like someone's about to steal it!

I saw that pic. I also thought it was funny how Lindsey had the cover down to his waist (wish it was a bit lower...) and was shoving his foot in Mick's face, and how Stevie was trying to push John off the bed, and he was just oblivious.

[amberlemegan]

I saw that pic. I also thought it was funny how Lindsey had the cover down to his waist (wish it was a bit lower...) and was shoving his foot in Mick's face, and how Stevie was trying to push John off the bed, and he was just oblivious.

Can someone post this picture. I think I've seen it before, but I'm not sure.
I really want to see it and it would be greatly appreciated!!! :)

[ButterCookie]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l03czhmZyf1qbvg22o1_400.jpg

[StreetAngel95]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l03czhmZyf1qbvg22o1_400.jpg

i look like such an idiot with my head turned upside down just trying to get a better view of Chris....:D:p

[amberlemegan]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l03czhmZyf1qbvg22o1_400.jpg

Thank you so much. :)
I have seen this picture before. I love it!

[MissLadyLoki]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l03czhmZyf1qbvg22o1_400.jpg

Great pic, but there's 2 things that'd make it better:

1.Mick needs to either wear a shirt or cover his chest

2.Lindsey needs to pull that cover about 6 inches lower ;)

[StreetAngel95]

Great pic, but there's 2 things that'd make it better:

1.Mick needs to either wear a shirt or cover his chest

2.Lindsey needs to pull that cover about 6 inches lower ;)

or he can just take it off! :nod:

[ButterCookie]

And all the while you two were molesting Lindsey, John would continue to read his magazine still oblivious :p

[MissLadyLoki]

And all the while you two were molesting Lindsey, John would continue to read his magazine still oblivious :p

As usual, John would be reading his Nat Geo, Mick and Chris would be laughing their heads off, and Stevie would probably be ready to kill.

And hey, we wouldn't be molesting him, we'd be just asking to see his junk.

[StreetAngel95]

And hey, we wouldn't be molesting him, we'd be just asking to see his junk.

yeah...um i'd be doing more than asking him to SHOW me his junk....:nod::laugh:

[MissLadyLoki]

yeah...um i'd be doing more than asking him to SHOW me his junk....:nod::laugh:

:shocked:


Now what will your parents think!

[StreetAngel95]

:shocked:


Now what will your parents think!

they'll never know....:D hehe...

[ButterCookie]

Well at least they won't be having the'girls experimenting with other girls' chat! :lol:

[MissLadyLoki]

they'll never know....:D hehe...

Well, you are right there. So, to quote Heart, you can go crazy on him.