Is Bekka the best female vocalist of Fleetwood Mac?

[chriskisn]

As Bekka got a bit of a raw deal in the Rumours forum, I thought we would do a poll over here too! The poll is multiple choice, so you can vote for more than one answer!

[RickRobert]

I voted no-oh wait no I didn't :distress: Bekka's got a nice raspy voice for blues, I think maybe focusing on some more Greeny material on the Time tour would have gone over better with Rumours fans since it suits her better. Listen to Eva Cassidy's Need Your Love So Bad, Bekka could have done good with an arrangement like that.

[chriskisn]

I voted no-oh wait no I didn't :distress: Bekka's got a nice raspy voice for blues, I think maybe focusing on some more Greeny material on the Time tour would have gone over better with Rumours fans since it suits her better. Listen to Eva Cassidy's Need Your Love So Bad, Bekka could have done a good job with an arrangement like that.

Yes she would definitely have done Greeny's stuff well...

[holidayroad]

I like Bekka, but I have to say I prefer Christine!

[holidayroad]

Never listened to Time, and I never will :sorry:

If you like Christine, you should. She has some great songs on Time.

[Street_Dreamer]

Never listened to Time, and I never will :sorry:

Thanks for posting that in this tread. We're all better for having read it.

Matt

[Street_Dreamer]

By the way I voted of course. The best example to me is Bekka's backing vocals in Heart To Call Home on the Bekka and Billy album.

Matt

[Miss Vicky]

I voted for all of the options. :laugh:

[Meowi]

Thanks for posting that in this tread. We're all better for having read it.

Matt

It's just that, well I like the Rumours era of the Mac.

[HomerMcvie]

Never listened to Time, and I never will :sorry:
You are narrow minded, and not a fan of FLEETWOOD MAC.

[Meowi]

You are narrow minded, and not a fan of FLEETWOOD MAC.

ZOMG,
I am a fan, I just enjoy the Rumours era better

[HomerMcvie]

Even though Chris is my favorite, by far, Bekka is definitely the most trained singer they've ever had.
Even though I can't stand Dave Mason, I love Blow by Blow, just for Bekka's awesome vocals!

[Miss Vicky]

Even though Chris is my favorite, by far, Bekka is definitely the most trained singer they've ever had.
Even though I can't stand Dave Mason, I love Blow by Blow, just for Bekka's awesome vocals!

Agreed. She totally makes that song.

[Street_Dreamer]

It's just that, well I like the Rumours era of the Mac.

That's fine. I'm not a Stevie fan and I don't go posting negativity in her forum. That's all I'm saying.

Matt

[Miss Vicky]

That's fine. I'm not a Stevie fan and I don't go posting negativity in her forum. That's all I'm saying.

Matt

I do. :laugh:

[Meowi]

I understand now-
Sorry, if I offended you guys.
(I'll just delete the post)

Friends? :blob1::blob2::laugh::woohoo::):lol::thumbsup:

[chriskisn]

I understand now-
Sorry, if I offended you guys.
(I'll just delete the post)

Friends? :blob1::blob2::laugh::woohoo::):lol::thumbsup:

Don't worry too much, the post-rumours fans amongst us can be a bit touchy. :)

You should listen to Time though, if only so that you can say "I didn't like that".

The argument is an old one though - Bekka doesn't get the respect she deserves because she was a follow-up to Stevie Nicks - very big shoes to fill. However, if you sit down to appreciate Bekka for her own talent, and forgetting that she replaced Stevie, and forgetting if you want that she was even in Fleetwood Mac, I think you'll discover a very talented woman with a knockout voice.

[Meowi]

So anyone recommend any Bekka tracks off Time for me? :nod:

[chriskisn]

So anyone recommend any Bekka tracks off Time for me? :nod:

Well...

Her tracks off the album are Dreamin' The Dream, Nothing Without You and Winds of Change. She also does duet/backing vocals with Billy on Talkin' To My Heart, and some great backing vocals on Dave's Blow By Blow and I Wonder Why (although the latter of these is open to discussion as to whether she can be a bit screechy at the end over the great Dave Mason guitar bit).

Personally I think Dreamin' The Dream is one of the most beautiful songs to come out of Fleetwood Mac - ever. Right up there with Beautiful Child by Stevie Nicks and Man of the World by Peter Green.

Plus, if you want to hear a bit more of Bekka's solo stuff (and of course you do) then go here http://www.myspace.com/bekkabramlett/music/playlists


EDIT

Oh and something else I should mention, her voice has matured a lot since she left Fleetwood Mac, it is way better now than it was then. Go and find "Stay Down In New Orleans" - a brilliant song by Bekka.

[aleuzzi]

Even though Chris is my favorite, by far, Bekka is definitely the most trained singer they've ever had.

This is so very true.

On Time, I always felt the band should have let Christine do her solo album and Billy and Bekka could've forged ahead doing their own, distinct thing.

Sorry Dave Mason--you don't fit anywhere in my "should have" fantasies.

[ButterCookie]

I've not voted in the poll, but I do want to say to Meowi, please do listen to Time. Homer encouraged me to and I'm glad I did. I don't enjoy Bekka's voice much (don't anyone please take offence at that, chances are you don't like half the musicians I do) but Christine outshines even her Tango songs on there. Nights in Estoril is in my top 5 favourite songs by Chris. I do agree that Bekka has the most trained voice, I just don't particularly like it. Like Chris said though, listen to Time even if it's just to say you don't like it :)

[DefDumbandBlond]

Where's the ' no ' option? ;)

[chiliD]

i do not think bekka is the best female singer in FM I saw her on the time tour back in 1995 I believe and I though she was terrible especially to pretend she is Stevie Nicks.

:distress:

The LAST thing Bekka did was "pretend she is Stevie Nicks"...she brought her own whole new thing to Fleetwood Mac.

The sad thing is that too many people in the audience had chiffon colored blinders & earplugs on to notice.

Open minds, people, open minds.

[chriskisn]

Where's the ' no ' option? ;)

Why would we need one of those?

[chriskisn]

I've not voted in the poll, but I do want to say to Meowi, please do listen to Time. Homer encouraged me to and I'm glad I did. I don't enjoy Bekka's voice much (don't anyone please take offence at that, chances are you don't like half the musicians I do) but Christine outshines even her Tango songs on there. Nights in Estoril is in my top 5 favourite songs by Chris. I do agree that Bekka has the most trained voice, I just don't particularly like it. Like Chris said though, listen to Time even if it's just to say you don't like it :)

Thats ok though, to say, "I've listened to Time a few times, and Bekka's voice just didn't do it for me". I think the same thing about Lindsey Buckingham, but at least I can say I listened. ;)

It really is just those who refuse to listen to Time that cause the angry response (at least from me).

Like I said earlier, Bekka has matured a lot from when I first heard her back in 1995. When I bought Time it was the current album and I thought to myself "This girl has a nice voice" but I wasn't totally into Stevie at that point so it didn't strike me as odd that she wasn't there.

Now having progressed through the years through the Bekka & Billy album and her solo album (or both if you count the one sold at shows) I can see how this young woman has developed an amazing voice and how much it has matured since 1995.

I do encourage anyone who doesn't like her Time stuff to go out and at least listen to her latest album.

[ButterCookie]

Like I said earlier, Bekka has matured a lot from when I first heard her back in 1995. When I bought Time it was the current album and I thought to myself "This girl has a nice voice" but I wasn't totally into Stevie at that point so it didn't strike me as odd that she wasn't there.

I made a point of listening to her solo work, just incase it was only Time that I didn't like :) I've never been 'mad' at her for 'trying to replace Stevie', because she just has never done that. Albeit I'm obviously not the biggest Stevie fan on the boards but I'd not want to brand her with something like that when she just didn't do that and had no intentions of doing so. Had she been twirling in black chiffon, maybe then I'd have had something to say on the matter :laugh:

As for the poll, I can't vote unless the entire existance of Christine is wiped from my memory :p

[chriskisn]

I made a point of listening to her solo work, just in case it was only Time that I didn't like :)

Hmm... you and I need to discuss Dave Walker sometime :lol:

[HomerMcvie]

:distress:

The LAST thing Bekka did was "pretend she is Stevie Nicks"...she brought her own whole new thing to Fleetwood Mac.

The sad thing is that too many people in the audience had chiffon colored blinders & earplugs on to notice.

Open minds, people, open minds.
And I saw Time, and thought she was EXCELLENT! She completely won me over! Stevie Who? :laugh:

Chiffon colored blinders? Can I use that?:laugh:

Open minds, are the last thing, Goatina's fans have ever been accused of possessing.....;)

[TrueFaith77]

So anyone recommend any Bekka tracks off Time for me? :nod:

Talkin' to my Heart is my favorite non-Christine song on the album. It's a wooonderful duet.

It's funny to me that groups like Lady Antobellum and Big Little Town etc etc want to be Rumours-era Mac, but can't even get close to "Talkin' to My Heart" much less "Go Your Own Way" . . .


p.s. -- I like Bekka but I would still rank her third to Stevie and Christine who are epic goddesses who influenced music and culture for a reason . . . and their distinctive, special voices had a looot to do with it. Not that Bekka's voice doesn't have personality, cuz it do.

[Miss Vicky]

I'd just like to say one thing;

chili and homie, I love you. :xoxo:

[Miss Vicky]

I did see the time tour show and only opinion of what I saw if she is her own individual singer for the band she should have sang her own songs only don't try to pretend to be stevie nicks and wearing black chiffon and cloaks singing Stevie songs I am sorry she was pretending to be stevie and I am not the only one on here that says this either about bekka I am sure individually she is an ok singer nothing strong came out of that part of FM that is why she only lasted one cd and tour with just to me that part of FM was not FM to me. And Yes Bekka was trying to pretend to be Stevie when doing Stevie FM songs on that tour. Alot of people got up and was leaving during there performance I left in the middle or after Gold Dust Woman I just don't like other singers trying to pretend to be Stevie my opinion Stevie is Stevie end of story if Bekka was so great in FM she would be still in the band. Stevie Nicks is FM with out Stevie Nicks there is no FM End of Story. Your going to get these opinions when you post survey like this. Sorry if Offend the Bekka fans just my opinion.

Okay, first of all, some punctuation would really make this post a heck of a lot more readable. Just a suggestion.

Secondly, it's always been expected of new members of Fleetwood Mac to sing the songs of the previous incarnations. Stevie and Lindsey had to pay their dues this way as well. Why would Bekka be any different? People always talk about how Stevie was the reason for Fleetwood Mac's huge success (and, for the record, I'm not saying that I agree with that notion). So if that's true, why on earth would Fleetwood Mac drop her songs from their setlist? That doesn't make any sense. And I vaguely recall reading somewhere that Christine did not tour for Time. So if it's pretty much a given that Fleetwood Mac would continue to perform Stevie's songs (as they have done with the songs of ALL other former members), who would you have sing them? Dave Mason?

Get real, people.

[ButterCookie]

nothing strong came out of that part of FM
NIGHTS IN ESTORIL

Stevie Nicks is FM with out Stevie Nicks there is no FM End of Story.

No. Stevie Nicks is NOT Fleetwood Mac. End of Story. Fleetwood Mac formed in 1967... that's SEVEN years before Lindsey and Stevie joined. Stevie is one fifth of one incarnation of Fleetwood Mac. Incarnation, just as Greeny's era is, Bob Welch's era is, Bekka and Dave's era and Rick & Billy's era are. Argh is this for real?

And I vaguely recall reading somewhere that Christine did not tour for Time.

No, she didn't :distress:

And like Vicky said, it's normal for different members to sing each others songs. Lindsey singing Green Manalishi, Oh Well... I could go on, but it's likely to be falling on deaf ears.

[StreetAngel95]

Stevie Nicks is FM with out Stevie Nicks there is no FM End of Story.

actually......without Mick Fleetwood and John McVie there is no Fleetwood Mac....

[SteveMacD]

I saw her on the time tour back in 1995 I believe and I though she was terrible especially to pretend she is Stevie Nicks.
She never pretended to be Stevie Nicks.

I did see the time tour show and only opinion of what I saw if she is her own individual singer for the band she should have sang her own songs only don't try to pretend to be stevie nicks and wearing black chiffon and cloaks singing Stevie songs I am sorry she was pretending to be stevie and I am not the only one on here that says this either about bekka

BULL****!

1. Bekka NEVER wore Chiffon.

2. She only sang ONE Stevie Nicks song regularly, Gold Dust Woman. The rest were Christine McVie songs. I don't see Christine McVie fans all up in arms that somebody else sang one of her songs. (Except when Stevie did, but only because she screwed up the lyrics...BADLY.) AND, it was a completely different arrangement. I'd much rather hear a fresh take on a classic than to hear some strung-out cheesy cover by Courtney Love.

3. Why do originals when the band NEVER toured in support of Time? They only toured prior to the album's release. I'm sure they would've done more originals if they weren't doing 12 song sets.

4. The beautiful thing about Bekka Bramlett is that she has famous parents. Watch Bonnie Bramlett on YouTube and try to convince ANYBODY that Bekka was trying to be Stevie 2.

5. USE SOME FRIGGIN' PUNCTUATION. It's already hard enough to take you seriously.


I am sure individually she is an ok singer nothing strong came out of that part of FM that is why she only lasted one cd and tour with just to me that part of FM was not FM to me.
Well, to be honest, what ACTUALLY happened is that the band stopped touring in Sept., 1995. The album was released in Oct., 1995. The album features Lindsey Buckingham on one song. Christine McVie left after it was released (which was obvious, by her song selection). It was announced that Mick Fleetwood was going to play on Lindsey Buckingham's solo album in Feb., 1996, and then announced that Fleetwood Mac had split in March, 1996. Shortly thereafter, it was announced that John and Christine McVie were playing on Lindsey's album. Then, "Twisted" came out in May, 1996. Later in 1996, Bekka & Billy was released. To me, it looks a lot like Lindsey was trying to break up that Mac so that he could get the Rumours band back together. Could it be he wanted that because his own solo masterpiece sold about 50,000 copies? In his defense, Bramlett and Burnette had post-Mac plans while still in the band.


And Yes Bekka was trying to pretend to be Stevie when doing Stevie FM songs on that tour.

SongS? You mean that ONE version of Gold Dust Woman that was a completely different arrangement than Stevie's? Because, THAT was the only song she did. Only one, and it was completely different.

I just don't like other singers trying to pretend to be Stevie
She sang a Stevie song. That hardly equates to pretending to be Stevie. By that logic, Courtney Love, Billy Corgan, the Dixie Chicks, and Waylon Jennings were pretending to be Stevie Nicks. And, if I were a Stevie fan, I think it would have been a bigger insult not having ANY Stevie songs. Wouldn't that have sent the message that the band really felt that Stevie's contributions to Fleetwood Mac were minimal? Hell, I'm still pissed they dropped "Oh Well" for two tours, and haven't played Danny Kirwan or Bob Welch songs since the late '70s, let alone a Jeremy Spencer-Elmore James cover (specifically, "Shake Your Moneymaker").

if Bekka was so great in FM she would be still in the band.
I'm pretty sure she wanted to do more country than she was allowed, and wanted out. See, most people LEAVE Fleetwood Mac. I'm sure the split was mutual.

Stevie Nicks is FM with out Stevie Nicks there is no FM End of Story.
So why did Christine McVie have more hit singles with Fleetwood Mac? Also, Peter Green.

[SteveMacD]

actually......without Mick Fleetwood and John McVie there is no Fleetwood Mac....

Which begs the question...Why has Fleetwood Mac never played "Werewolves Of London" in concert? I know it's not required, but it would've been an amazing gesture to Warren Zevon.

[StandbackStevie]

I am not starting an arguement with anyone about bekka and yes I am aware of her mother as a singer and song writer. I just do not prefer the bekka and Dave Mason era of fleetwood mac. . I love all the eras of Fleetwood Mac have been a fan since I was 9 years old back in 1979. So I have all the FM albums and cd's except the time cd i should listen to it before I make comments i am only commenting what i saw in the concert performance not bekka as a recording artists singer and song writer. Yes I do have problem with grammar sorry for my stupidity but that is the way i type sorry. I have been a fan of FM and Stevie Nicks for 31 years and counting. I am sorry for offending bekka fans don't mean to offend anyone.

I don't want to have people hate me for my opinion Bekka is a great singer in her own right and yes I am familiar with her mother and acting,singing and song writing as well. I am stupid but not that stupid. Sorry for my stupid comments in previous posts. I will not say negative thing about Bekka or Dave Mason actually he is playing solo at a club here in Connecticut in a month or so at Infinity Hall in Norfolk, Connecticut not sure when the place only holds 300 seats they have some big names that play there pretty cool place. here is the link to the hall is about an hour away from where I live.


http://www.infinityhall.com/events/dave-mason-1




sorry again to everyone for my stupid posts and bad grammar posts. I apologize to all who have been mad with me about my posts with bekka. Please forgive me I am a true Fleetwood Mac Fan and I dont want anyone hating me that is not me and sorry again.

[StandbackStevie]

here is a clip from the tour i found on you tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES7GsE9MR8A&feature=related

I remember a different version of her doing this song and she did come out in a black cloak i definetly remember that she did do. I definelty don't remember her doing it this way. I am loving this version of Gold Dust Woman.

[chiliD]

SongS? You mean that ONE version of Gold Dust Woman that was a completely different arrangement than Stevie's? Because, THAT was the only song she did. Only one, and it was completely different.

She DID do "Dreams" at the show I saw on that tour. "Nailed, it!!!!!"

Her version of "Gold Dust Woman" is my favorite Fleetwood Mac version of the song...BECAUSE that incarnation of the band took it to a place it hadn't gone before. It would be really cool to hear Fleetwood Mac PLAY this arrangement with Stevie singing, just to hear if it was the arrangement that I liked, or Bekka's vocal stylings.

(that said, my favorite all-time verson of "Gold Dust Woman" was the one that Stevie did in live Central Park with Sheryl Crow's band)

Since the horse still has a pulse....it would be no different than if Fleetwood Mac would've toured WITH Christine, but without a 2nd female vocalist....you don't think Christine would've had to put up with SOME sort of internal band pressure to sing at least one, MAYBE two of Stevie's tunes in concert? Maybe, when it comes right down to it, the fear of THAT was why Christine announced she was leaving the band, too, in 1990 right after Stevie did.

[StandbackStevie]

She DID do "Dreams" at the show I saw on that tour. "Nailed, it!!!!!"

Her version of "Gold Dust Woman" is my favorite Fleetwood Mac version of the song...BECAUSE that incarnation of the band took it to a place it hadn't gone before. It would be really cool to hear Fleetwood Mac PLAY this arrangement with Stevie singing, just to hear if it was the arrangement that I liked, or Bekka's vocal stylings.

(that said, my favorite all-time verson of "Gold Dust Woman" was the one that Stevie did in live Central Park with Sheryl Crow's band)

Since the horse still has a pulse....it would be no different than if Fleetwood Mac would've toured WITH Christine, but without a 2nd female vocalist....you don't think Christine would've had to put up with SOME sort of internal band pressure to sing at least one, MAYBE two of Stevie's tunes in concert? Maybe, when it comes right down to it, the fear of THAT was why Christine announced she was leaving the band, too, in 1990 right after Stevie did.

I though she did dreams as well I know they opened liked they alway did with The Chain maybe during the chain she came out in a black cloak i remember distinctly. The Tour I saw there show was the 70's tour i think they called

Orleans
Pat Benatar
Reo Speedwagon
and
Fleetwood Mac

I want to say the show was in june of 1995 not sure about the date it was either June or July of 1995 it was in Hartford at The Meadows Music Thearte now the comcast thearte.

was this the same tour everyone saw the bekka and dave mason version of FM the same one I saw?

[chiliD]

was this the same tour everyone saw the bekka and dave mason version of FM the same one I saw?

They only did one tour...from mid-1994 to September 1995. I saw them in October 1994....Roger McGuinn (of The Byrds) did a solo acoustic set to open the show.

During FMac's set, Bekka introduced her mom and Bonnie came out to help out on a KICK A$$ version of Dave Mason's "Only You Know & I Know". High energy...just made me think of what I missed by never taking the opportunity to see Delaney & Bonnie & Friends when I had the chance. For their final encore number, they did a really torchy blues version of John Lennon's "Imagine", being that it was within a few days of John's BD, it was quite emotional. There were probably 15,000 or so people at the concert (which was outdoors in a County Park, bright sunny day...probably about 80-85 degrees)...on the hike back to the car, I didn't hear any derrogatory remarks about the "new version" of Fleetwood Mac...everybody was energized...."they were awesome!"..."that new chick kicked a$$!!!", "Wow! Cool, Dave Mason's in Fleetwood Mac now!", etc, etc.

[StandbackStevie]

They only did one tour...from mid-1994 to September 1995. I saw them in October 1994....Roger McGuinn (of The Byrds) did a solo acoustic set to open the show.

During FMac's set, Bekka introduced her mom and Bonnie came out to help out on a KICK A$$ version of Dave Mason's "Only You Know & I Know". High energy...just made me think of what I missed by never taking the opportunity to see Delaney & Bonnie & Friends when I had the chance. For their final encore number, they did a really torchy blues version of John Lennon's "Imagine", being that it was within a few days of John's BD, it was quite emotional. There were probably 15,000 or so people at the concert (which was outdoors in a County Park, bright sunny day...probably about 80-85 degrees)...on the hike back to the car, I didn't hear any derrogatory remarks about the "new version" of Fleetwood Mac...everybody was energized...."they were awesome!"..."that new chick kicked a$$!!!", "Wow! Cool, Dave Mason's in Fleetwood Mac now!", etc, etc.

I don't remember anyone saying anything bad about the show either I though it was great show with Orleans,Pat Benatar, Reo Speedwagon and Fleetwood Mac awesome line up really, some people i did see leave during the middle or it could have been torwards the end it was a long night not sure when it started cause pat, reo and fm i believe were full set like between 80-90 min. each and orleans was about 30 min. set.

It would be a cool tour and probably a dream for all of us is if they ever put a tour together for everyone who was or is still in FM and do a big stadium tour i think it would be a mind blowing tour. Tickets would be a lot of money but worth i think. I did wish I did stay to finish out the whole show back then. I would love for that to happen one of these days. Mick and John should really think about it i think its an awesome idea.

[Artemis]

I found this great video of Bekka singing Gold Dust Woman -

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Admittedly, she sounds fantastic. Even if I don't like her singing Gold Dust Woman, she has one hell of a voice xD

The more I listen to it, the more I like it. Gaaah. I'm really tempted to give Time another try now... I've got it set to skip on shuffle in itunes >_>

[chriskisn]

I found this great video of Bekka singing Gold Dust Woman -

Admittedly, she sounds fantastic. Even if I don't like her singing Gold Dust Woman, she has one hell of a voice xD

The more I listen to it, the more I like it. Gaaah. I'm really tempted to give Time another try now... I've got it set to skip on shuffle in itunes >_>

Or try the Live At Interlaken bootleg which is actually the audio of that concert you posted (I think)

http://rapidshare.com/files/239124914/Another_Link_in_the_Chain_Live_in_Interlaken.rar

[chriskisn]

Anyway, if Bekka was copying anyone it sure wasn't Stevie Nicks. She looks and sounds so much like her mother (from back in 1969) it is almost scary. Oh and take note of Dave Mason sitting on the end of the first video...

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[Miss Vicky]

I found this great video of Bekka singing Gold Dust Woman -


Thanks for sharing that, I dig it. Though I'll admit I prefer Stevie's version :shocked:, this one is very good.

If you like her voice, I recommend checking out her solo material. Also, she's done some stellar work as a backing vocalist for other artists. My favorite of these is her work with blues artist Jonny Lang.

Anyway, if Bekka was copying anyone it sure wasn't Stevie Nicks. She looks and sounds so much like her mother (from back in 1969) it is almost scary. Oh and take note of Dave Mason sitting on the end of the first video...


Those are great ! I remember seeing Bonnie during her stint on Roseanne and being totally impressed in the episodes where they had her sing. What a voice!

[SteveMacD]

Here are a few more...

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ETA: Did you notice that her tambourine isn't taped and she actually uses it as a real instrument? Isn't that weird?

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ETA II: Does her performing "Imagine" mean she's trying to be John Lennon? (Also interesting: I saw her do as many John Lennon songs as Stevie Nicks songs. I guess they did "Dreams," but I've never seen or heard a performance. I only go by what I've seen.)

[chriskisn]

Those are great ! I remember seeing Bonnie during her stint on Roseanne and being totally impressed in the episodes where they had her sing. What a voice!

I was just thinking that I need to go out and get a Delaney & Bonnie album and have a listen to them - my only exposure to them is through a couple of YouTube videos and if I remember rightly they are on a Clapton album or two that I have...

[SteveMacD]

I was just thinking that I need to go out and get a Delaney & Bonnie album and have a listen to them - my only exposure to them is through a couple of YouTube videos and if I remember rightly they are on a Clapton album or two that I have...
Rhino had a decent comp that's sadly OOP. It was good, but there were better songs they could have chosen, and sadly no unreleased goodies. If you can find it cheap, go for it. But I've seen them go for more than the cost of the entire CD catalog (only one album isn't on CD).

Accept No Substitute, usually considered their classic, or Together, their swan song that also has their singles and some bonus solo tracks, are probably good starting points, though any album is great. Home is a classic Stax album that was actually on Stax and features Steve Cropper, Duck Dunn, Booker T., Isaac Hayes, et al (get the one with bonus tracks if you decide on this...The previously unreleased version of Long Road Ahead is just a monster). Motel Shot is an acoustic album that features Dave Mason, Gram Parsons, Duane Allman, and Joe Cocker. On Tour With Eric Clapton is a live album that features Dave Mason and George "Mysterioso" Harrison. To Bonnie From Delaney has a mostly different crew, but is still a good album and features the original God Knows I Love You, which was covered by Bekka & Billy.

Clapton's first solo album was essentially a Delaney & Bonnie album, only with Clapton on lead vocals. Derek & The Dominoes was Clapton with Delaney & Bonnie's backing band. Also of note are Dave Mason's Alone Together and Joe Cocker's Mad Dogs and Englishmen, which either feature D&B or their band.

[StandbackStevie]

Here are a few more...

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ETA: Did you notice that her tambourine isn't taped and she actually uses it as a real instrument? Isn't that weird?

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ETA II: Does her performing "Imagine" mean she's trying to be John Lennon? (Also interesting: I saw her do as many John Lennon songs as Stevie Nicks songs. I guess they did "Dreams," but I've never seen or heard a performance. I only go by what I've seen.)

ok I apologize for my stupidity in before post she is awesome too. I was at the show when they came here to connecticut it was in June or July of 1995 and i want to say she did Gold Dust Woman different i could be wrong i do believe she came out in a cloak i believe when they sang The Chain I though she did do dreams as well if i remember correctly i was there for most of the show anyway. She is an added female vocal to be added as one of the greatest vocals in Fleetwood Mac there is not one bad vocalist and song writer in all the era's of FM.

It was billed as The 70's Classic Rock Tour

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this was the line up for that concert I saw Bekka and Dave Mason version of FM I remember the commerials for this tour and they never mentioned bekka and dave mason in commercial just fleetwood mac i knew stevie, christine and lindsey were not in the band before seeing the show. In the commerical they were advertising they should have mentioned bekka and Dave Mason which I definetly remember not hearing in the commercials . If i remember correctly there was some people upset that stevie,lindsey and christine were not in the band I knew they weren't cause they were advertising the show as classic rock 70's show maybe that is why some people were disappointed and mis advertised as well when they adverstised the concert too alot of people were starting to leaving in the middle of there performance if i do recall and mind you connecticut is a strong fleetwood mac fan base here. I think if it was not advertised as a classic 70's tour and it was just fleetwood mac it would have been different the more i think back about the concert was great on my opinion just remembering seeing alot of people leaving before the performance was over and some people were complaining not that FM was bad i just think the casual fans that were not aware of Stevie,Lindsey and Christine not being in the band on tour at that time. Sounds other people might have seen a different tour of FM on that tour in different tour package. It was billed as The Classic 70's Tour just think people were expecting the Stevie,Lindsey and Christine line up of the band and think that is why people were leaving half way thru there performance.

[Meowi]

So I listnened to Bekka doing Imagine.
Nice voice :)

[jaycee]

So I listnened to Bekka doing Imagine.
Nice voice :)

Bekka does have a beautiful voice. However, I listened to Time, and I found the album largely forgettable, which is a shame because Behind The Mask was so unexpectedly good! :nod: Perhaps it was just too much to produce yet another great album after yet another change of line-up? :shrug: Of course there's a fair few FM fans that do enjoy Time, so who am I to judge? :) (Oh, wait, my music standards are objective, aren't they? My mistake! :lol:)
So, Meowi, I suggest you buy the album, if you should happen across it for about $15 (give or take $5, depending on how interested you are). If nothing else, it completes the album collection. :)
And for the record, I enjoyed Time a bit more than Say You Will. :nod:

[StreetAngel95]

And for the record, I enjoyed Time a bit more than Say You Will. :nod:

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[jaycee]

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Oh dear, I'm sorry about that Miranda! :sorry: I promise I'll give Say You Will another go sometime soon! :nod: You never know, I might like it the second time around - when you consider that I only liked many songs by The Moody Blues the second time around, and that they're now my second favourite band, it's possible the same thing may happen here.
Btw, have you heard much by way of The Beatles' psychedelic music? I know you don't like much of their music, but I get the feeling that it may be their earlier songs, which were more mainstream for the time, that you might not like as much. (And, yes, I know I'm going to be lynched for that comment, even though I actually like all of The Beatles music, and absolutely love the creativity of their later albums like Magical Mystery Tour.)

[tilthefirefades]

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My thoughts exactly!

And so I'm not spamming this thread, yes, Bekka is amazing! Thanks to Vicky, I now know just how incredible she is. I have been playing her solo albums constantly, but the Bekka and Billy album is a current favorite :D

[jaycee]

My thoughts exactly!

And so I'm not spamming this thread, yes, Bekka is amazing! Thanks to Vicky, I now know just how incredible she is. I have been playing her solo albums constantly, but the Bekka and Billy album is a current favorite :D

Ah, not again! :sorry: I'm sure to have lost two good friends now! :( :lol:

[StreetAngel95]

Ah, not again! :sorry: I'm sure to have lost two good friends now! :( :lol:

LOL i'm just joking around, Jordan! I still love you! Everyone has their own taste, and i respect that -

BTW, my favorite Beatles album is Abbey Road/Magical Mystery Tour!:lol:

[chriskisn]

I promise I'll give Say You Will another go sometime soon! :nod: You never know, I might like it the second time around

Well to be honest I didn't like SYW for about the first three or four times I listened. Now I enjoy almost everything except that Red Rover song :lol:

Time really does take a few listens though, especially as I don't think the album really does Bekka's voice justice. I also wish that there was more of a feeling of unity within the band (like there was on BTM), and a few more guitar solos from Mr Mason (or hey in the case of the Christine songs - absolutely anything from Mr Mason).

I know that Dave Mason isn't everyone's favourite, and he sure isn't mine either (maybe we need to do a thread about this) but he can certainly play brilliantly which isn't highlighted on there.

[chriskisn]

Oh and for those who don't have copies of the album that Bekka used to sell at shows (and which you can't buy these days)...

Matt (streetdreamer) posted this up a long time ago, so here it is again - thanks Matt.

http://rapidshare.com/files/149398803/What_s_In_It_For_Me.rar

[TrueFaith77]

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I'm with you. Time has wonderful stuff on it. But Say You Will is the first Mac masterpiece since Tusk.

[tilthefirefades]

Ah, not again! :sorry: I'm sure to have lost two good friends now! :( :lol:

Hahaha! It's alright! I think it means so much to me because it was my first new Fleetwood Mac album, and I got to experience it like that. Maybe for you it will be how spacetime was for me. The first few gos at it, I was left troubled and confused, but eventually it became one of my favorite concepts, or in this case albums :thumbsup:

And again, to prevent spamming: Through The Walls is such a great song :)

[zb1]

I know Bekka, Bonnie and knew Delaney very well.

Bekka did get the writing and singing genes from her dad.

She is a great writer and sings better than Bonnie.

The only problem is Bekka is a psychological mess. I saw her at her dad's memorial service in Jan. 08 make a complete fool of herself. She is irresponsible and needs to get her act together before she does herself some harm.

[chriskisn]

The only problem is Bekka is a psychological mess. I saw her at her dad's memorial service in Jan. 08 make a complete fool of herself. She is irresponsible and needs to get her act together before she does herself some harm.

From what I can gather, her father's death hit her pretty hard...

[Miss Vicky]

I know Bekka, Bonnie and knew Delaney very well...

The only problem is Bekka is a psychological mess. I saw her at her dad's memorial service in Jan. 08 make a complete fool of herself. She is irresponsible and needs to get her act together before she does herself some harm.


Wow. If you do know the family as well as you say you do, then why would you post this? It seems incredibly disrespectful and downright rude to announce Bekka's personal problems on a fan forum. If you're so close with her and the family, then take your concerns up with her directly. Or have you even seen her in the last two years? If not, who are you to say anything of her present psychologic condition?



And so I'm not spamming this thread, yes, Bekka is amazing! Thanks to Vicky, I now know just how incredible she is. I have been playing her solo albums constantly, but the Bekka and Billy album is a current favorite :D


Speaking of that album - I know you loved "Through the Walls" - but what are your thoughts on Billy's contributions? I think "Heart to Call Home" is one of his best songs (ever).

[OldTimer]

:shocked: Good grief, five pages here -- does that exceed the original poll in the Rumours Forum? Thumbs up for the poll choices listed! :laugh:

Thanks for the great vids. I hate to admit I still haven't bought Time:o.
I'm not sorry to admit I didn't bother with the original (very predictable) poll in the other forum. All three voices are extraordinary. Bekka's voice has much more of a gospel sound than Stevie or Chris, but they're all uniquely recognizable and wonderful. And Homer if you refer to Stevie as a goat one more time I'm coming after you with my cane. :eek: :laugh:

Also I wanted to say this, to StandbackStevie -- Please DON'T refer to your opinions or your posts as stupid. They aren't. There are no stupid fans here, just really really really really really really passionate ones. :xoxo: And passion's a beautiful thing isn't it? :thumbsup:

[StandbackStevie]

:shocked: Good grief, five pages here -- does that exceed the original poll in the Rumours Forum? Thumbs up for the poll choices listed! :laugh:

Thanks for the great vids. I hate to admit I still haven't bought Time:o.
I'm not sorry to admit I didn't bother with the original (very predictable) poll in the other forum. All three voices are extraordinary. Bekka's voice has much more of a gospel sound than Stevie or Chris, but they're all uniquely recognizable and wonderful. And Homer if you refer to Stevie as a goat one more time I'm coming after you with my cane. :eek: :laugh:

Also I wanted to say this, to StandbackStevie -- Please DON'T refer to your opinions or your posts as stupid. They aren't. There are no stupid fans here, just really really really really really really passionate ones. :xoxo: And passion's a beautiful thing isn't it? :thumbsup:

Thank you for saying that I really love all the era's and all the members of fleetwood mac right from the begining since 1967. Fleetwood Mac is my favorite band and always will be. I love all kinds of music and artists and bands. I do have all the albums and cd's of fleetwood mac's except for the Time cd will plan on getting that one and give it a listen I am sure its great will be looking forward to listening to it. I love my Stevie and Chris too.

[Miss Vicky]

I hate to admit I still haven't bought Time:o.


This makes me sad. :distress:

[OldTimer]

This makes me sad. :distress:
That's it, lay on the guilt. :rolleyes: But I have kids to feed, vet bills, a mortgage, my car needs new tires, and..........oh never mind, I'll look for it. :cool:

Hey StandbackStevie, glad to see you again! I love your love for Stevie and Chris and all of FM. :thumbsup:

[HomerMcvie]

And Homer if you refer to Stevie as a goat one more time I'm coming after you with my cane. :eek: :laugh:


Come get me, Peepaw!!!:]

Come on, Stevie isn't that bahhhhhhhh'd! :p

[StandbackStevie]

Wow. If you do know the family as well as you say you do, then why would you post this? It seems incredibly disrespectful and downright rude to announce Bekka's personal problems on a fan forum. If you're so close with her and the family, then take your concerns up with her directly. Or have you even seen her in the last two years? If not, who are you to say anything of her present psychologic condition?






Speaking of that album - I know you loved "Through the Walls" - but what are your thoughts on Billy's contributions? I think "Heart to Call Home" is one of his best songs (ever).

I agree if bekka has personal problems no one has a right to say anything unless its herself saying this. If she needs help I hope she gets it and takes care of whatever she is going through. Bekka deserves her privacy and respect.

[SteveMacD]

I know Bekka, Bonnie and knew Delaney very well.

Bekka did get the writing and singing genes from her dad.

She is a great writer and sings better than Bonnie.

The only problem is Bekka is a psychological mess. I saw her at her dad's memorial service in Jan. 08 make a complete fool of herself. She is irresponsible and needs to get her act together before she does herself some harm.
I'm sure she was a wreck at her dad's funeral. They were very, very close.

However, she's also gotten married since then, so maybe her life has had some positive changes.

It's none of our business, either way.

[chriskisn]

I did notice last night that although she had accepted my friend request on Facebook, she has since deleted me as well. :(

Oh well I'm sure I can live without Bekka Bramlett's facebook friendship in my life :lol:

[jbrownsjr]

Be Careful What you're sayin... you're talkin to my heart....

Love her voice on that tune...

[Street_Dreamer]

Speaking of that album - I know you loved "Through the Walls" - but what are your thoughts on Billy's contributions? I think "Heart to Call Home" is one of his best songs (ever).

I agree wholeheartedly. That song could be a #1 hit today.

Matt

[zb1]

I'm sure she was a wreck at her dad's funeral. They were very, very close.





Email Bekka and ask her point blank: How many times did you visit your father when he was in UCLA for 9 months.

The answer...One maybe two times.:mad: That will show you how close she was to Delaney.

[Miss Vicky]

Email Bekka and ask her point blank: How many times did you visit your father when he was in UCLA for 9 months.

The answer...One maybe two times.:mad: That will show you how close she was to Delaney.

Again with the dragging of Bekka's personal business onto this forum.
Get a life, dude.

[LukeA]

Email Bekka and ask her point blank: How many times did you visit your father when he was in UCLA for 9 months.

The answer...One maybe two times.:mad: That will show you how close she was to Delaney.

Really, Steve, what's your problem? Bekka didn't want to sign with your "company" or something?

If you want to contribute positively to preserving the legacy of Delaney and his final years/output, how about NOT trolling message boards with your own hybrid of privileged information & biased opinion? Regardless of what Delaney & Bekka's relationship may have been like towards the end, I'm sure he would have been mortified to have a business associate of his to air such dirty laundry to suit their own agenda.

Stay classy! :wavey:

[sjpdg]

Really, Steve, what's your problem? Bekka didn't want to sign with your "company" or something?

If you want to contribute positively to preserving the legacy of Delaney and his final years/output, how about NOT trolling message boards with your own hybrid of privileged information & biased opinion? Regardless of what Delaney & Bekka's relationship may have been like towards the end, I'm sure he would have been mortified to have a business associate of his to air such dirty laundry to suit their own agenda.

Stay classy! :wavey:

I wholeheartedly agree!!! Why drag personal information into this forum like that? Very low class!

Bekka's got a killer voice and made a good contribution to FM with her tunes on "Time". Not FM's best work as a band, but certainly not their worst (try "Penguin" for that honor!!!!)

[aleuzzi]

I found this great video of Bekka singing Gold Dust Woman -

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Admittedly, she sounds fantastic. Even if I don't like her singing Gold Dust Woman, she has one hell of a voice xD

The more I listen to it, the more I like it. Gaaah. I'm really tempted to give Time another try now... I've got it set to skip on shuffle in itunes >_>


I am impressed. If the band weren't called Fleetwood Mac, people would be raving at the daring new read on this song and hailing Bekka for his guts. Unfortunately, at this point, for most people, no one can sing Stevie-Lindsey-Christine songs in the context of the band other than those three.

[ButterCookie]

I am impressed. If the band weren't called Fleetwood Mac, people would be raving at the daring new read on this song and hailing Bekka for his guts. Unfortunately, at this point, for most people, no one can sing Stevie-Lindsey-Christine songs in the context of the band other than those three.

And even when they sing eachothers songs, they screw it up :rolleyes:

[chriskisn]

Not FM's best work as a band, but certainly not their worst (try "Penguin" for that honor!!!!)

Grrr...you just had to bring that up didn't you :laugh:

[aleuzzi]

And even when they sing eachothers songs, they screw it up :rolleyes:

Agreed! Though Lindsey does do a killer "Oh Well."

[chiliD]

Agreed! Though Lindsey does do a killer "Oh Well."

Are you ****ting me? He's the WORST of all Fleetwood Mac versions. (but, that said, there's really not a "bad" version of "Oh Well"....unless you've heard Kenny Wayne Shepard's...his is God-awful....Lindsey's just pales in comparison to other Fleetwood Mac guitarists versions...and "killer" would never be my choice of word to describe one of Lindsey's versions. Have to admit, though, his more recent versions are a HELLUVA lot better than his '75-'82 versions.)

[LukeA]

Its called an opinion, Chili. We're all aware (please- seriously- we are. really) that you were around back then and are more "enlightened"- there is such a thing as perspective.

[OldTimer]

Thanks Chili! :thumbsup: I didn't want to say that and piss people off, but I figured we could could count on you. :D Lindsey does a fabulous job with Lindsey songs, but his 'Unleashed' Oh Well is....:rolleyes:.....oh well, not my cup of tea either. The others have done it better.

Hey, maybe we should do another one of those godawful, meaningless, throw-down-the-gloves-and-smash-out-the-windows polls, eh? :p :shocked: No, wait, I'm kidding, kidding, I'm just KIDDING! :eek:

[chiliD]

Its called an opinion, Chili. We're all aware (please- seriously- we are. really) that you were around back then and are more "enlightened"- there is such a thing as perspective.

Yep, and I was expressing mine...again. Don't like it? Put me on "Ignore".

[sjpdg]

Are you ****ting me? He's the WORST of all Fleetwood Mac versions. (but, that said, there's really not a "bad" version of "Oh Well"....unless you've heard Kenny Wayne Shepard's...his is God-awful....Lindsey's just pales in comparison to other Fleetwood Mac guitarists versions...and "killer" would never be my choice of word to describe one of Lindsey's versions. Have to admit, though, his more recent versions are a HELLUVA lot better than his '75-'82 versions.)

Now, I wouldn't say that Lindsey's is the "worst" of all FM versions. I actually like it. Of course, I much, much, much more prefer Peter's original and really love Rick's versions.

Thanks for putting your opinion out there chiliD! We've all got one, and forums like this are just another opportunity for us to share them. Those that don't like them don't have to agree or even pay attention. Keep sharing. I, for one, will keep reading!! :nod:

[ButterCookie]

his 'Unleashed' Oh Well is....:rolleyes:.....oh well, not my cup of tea either. The others have done it better.

His 'Unleashed' Oh Well is a lot better than Stevie's 'Unleashed' Don't Stop.

[chiliD]

JEEEZUS!! Got an exposed nerve??

I never said I DISLIKED Lindsey's versions, I just said that his are the worst of all the Fleetwood Mac versions I've heard. And, I've heard worse versions than his by other artists...namely Kenny Wayne Shepard in particular.

His 'Unleashed' Oh Well is a lot better than Stevie's 'Unleashed' Don't Stop.

I guess they should've gotten Bekka to do "Don't Stop"....she nailed it on the '94/95 tour.

[RickRobert]

I guess they should've gotten Bekka to do "Don't Stop"....she nailed it on the '94/95 tour.

Yeah, or use a playback of Chris' voice... or Grace Sli-*dodges rocks*

[SteveMacD]

I have to say the '94-'95 version of Oh Well was my least favorite. I didn't mind that it became a duet, but Dave Mason's solo was a typical Dave Mason solo (very similar to the Only You Know And I Know solo, IMO), which really didn't suit the song all that well. I also thought it got a little schticky.

[chiliD]

I have to say the '94-'95 version of Oh Well was my least favorite. I didn't mind that it became a duet, but Dave Mason's solo was a typical Dave Mason solo (very similar to the Only You Know And I Know solo, IMO), which really didn't suit the song all that well. I also thought it got a little schticky.


:eek: :shocked: And, this coming from the "King of Dave Mason fans"!

I'm shocked...........& stunned....


...yeah....shocked & stunned!

[SteveMacD]

:eek: :shocked: And, this coming from the "King of Dave Mason fans"!

I'm shocked...........& stunned....


...yeah....shocked & stunned!
I think I gave up that throne years ago, and, for the record, I was always more of a Fleetwood Mac fan. I just got tired of explaining why Dave wasn't a "wannabe" on alt.music.fleetwood-mac. It's not that the solo was bad, but it just didn't fit the song.

[iamnotafraid]

I like Bekka's voice but the group wasn't FM with her in my opinion.

Speaking of pretty Bekka, do you guys think she was part of Vince Gill's
marriage break up a few years back?

[chiliD]

I like Bekka's voice but the group wasn't FM with her in my opinion.

Fleetwood Mac hasn't been "Fleetwood Mac" since Peter Green left.

See? I can play the same game. Both comments are intrinsically false. "Opinion" or not.


Speaking of pretty Bekka, do you guys think she was part of Vince Gill's marriage break up a few years back?

No...Amy Grant was.

[iamnotafraid]

Fleetwood Mac hasn't been "Fleetwood Mac" since Peter Green left.

See? I can play the same game. Both comments are intrinsically false. "Opinion" or not.


Play what game? I was just giving my opinion.
What's the deal on the short fuse?

[chiliD]

Play what game? I was just giving my opinion.
What's the deal on the short fuse?


"Short fuse"?? Hardly. Maybe if this was October 1995, sure...but after a decade & a half of reading inane comments about how "Fleetwood Mac wasn't Fleetwood Mac with Bekka" , I don't see where that counts as "short fuse". It's been a long tiresome road.

[ButterCookie]

"Short fuse"?? Hardly. Maybe if this was October 1995, sure...but after a decade & a half of reading inane comments about how "Fleetwood Mac wasn't Fleetwood Mac with Bekka" , I don't see where that counts as "short fuse". It's been a long tiresome road.

Chili, Chili, Chili. It's okay :distress: *pats back* It upsets me to see you mad/riled/tired/bored of some people's inability to communicate properly/enraged. :(

[OldTimer]

I think Chili's used to being poked with a stick repeatedly (i.e. iamnotafraid's post) -- but I'd be real careful with the condescension, little ButterCookie.....:cool: :laugh:

[ButterCookie]

I'm not trying to be condescending :distress: I'm not tall enough

[chriskisn]

"Short fuse"?? Hardly. Maybe if this was October 1995, sure...but after a decade & a half of reading inane comments about how "Fleetwood Mac wasn't Fleetwood Mac with Bekka" , I don't see where that counts as "short fuse". It's been a long tiresome road.

Ah yes those were the days....

[OldTimer]

I was amazed to discover Stevie and Bekka had appeared onstage together at least once. On the myspace of long-time session drummer Danny Darling, he tells of being Rick V's drummer (after Rick had left FM), and one time Rick was doing a show in Nashville with Billy B and Bekka, and they had a surprise that night -- Stevie joined them on stage and finished out the set with them!

I was Rick Vito drummer in Nashville. Rick was an x Fleetwood Mac member. We played a gig at the Sutler in Nashville Tn along with Beckka Bramlet on Vocals, Rick on Lead and Vocals, Billy Burnett on Guitar and vocals and Dennis Belfield on Bass and Luck me on Drums. We had a surprise that night and it was Stevie Nicks who came on stage a finished out the gig with us.

http://blogs.myspace.com/dannydarling

Now that was a night someone should have taped!

Anyone know of any other time Stevie and Bekka may have performed together?

[sjpdg]

I found this great video of Bekka singing Gold Dust Woman -

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Admittedly, she sounds fantastic. Even if I don't like her singing Gold Dust Woman, she has one hell of a voice xD

The more I listen to it, the more I like it. Gaaah. I'm really tempted to give Time another try now... I've got it set to skip on shuffle in itunes >_>

WOW!!!!! I am blown away!!!! That is fantastic! I was unable to see FM on this tour so I obviously missed out. Bekka really nailed "Gold Dust Woman". That performance was great. I love the arrangement too. That slow dobro intro and Mick on the talking drum was killer! Maybe a little less dramatics in the middle and a little more variation on the electric guitar but other than that, I'd say it was awesome!! They needed to have Mick's drum miked all the way back to the drum kit so we didn't lose the beat he had going, but "oh well".

Don't get me wrong, I like Stevie's contributions to the Mac. Some of them I absolutely love (Beautiful Child is one of my favourite FM songs of all time), but I'm just not a "drink the Kool Aid" devotee like some on this forum. Not everything FM revolves around Buckingham/Nicks. Lest we forget, Lindsey had long since left the band by this point, Stevie was pissed at Mick so she was gone and Christine didn't want to tour for "Time". What was the band supposed to do? Leave out all of Christine and Stevie's material completely? Not on your life! If FM toured without playing at least some of that material, fans would have been howling for refunds, despite their vilification (sp?) of Bekka and her performance. It's just sad that people couldn't accept her and the band for the place they were at that time. Dave Mason's contributions weren't that spectacular, not horrible by any means, just not that great. Was he trashed? Not really. For whatever reason, Rick didn't continue with FM at that point. I think if he had, "Time" would have been a stronger, better CD and the tour would have been awesome as well. Plus, I just didn't get the combo of Pat Benatar, REO Speedwagon and FM. It just didn't seem to fit for me.

Anyway, thanks for posting this killer video. Very much appreciated.

[sjpdg]

Don't worry too much, the post-rumours fans amongst us can be a bit touchy. :)

You should listen to Time though, if only so that you can say "I didn't like that".

The argument is an old one though - Bekka doesn't get the respect she deserves because she was a follow-up to Stevie Nicks - very big shoes to fill. However, if you sit down to appreciate Bekka for her own talent, and forgetting that she replaced Stevie, and forgetting if you want that she was even in Fleetwood Mac, I think you'll discover a very talented woman with a knockout voice.

100% agreed!!! Couldn't have said it better myself.:thumbsup:

[sjpdg]

Grrr...you just had to bring that up didn't you :laugh:

:laugh::lol::laugh::lol::laugh:

God love ya brother!!!

[chiliD]

If FM toured without playing at least some of that material, fans would have been howling for refunds, despite their vilification (sp?) of Bekka and her performance. It's just sad that people couldn't accept her and the band for the place they were at that time. Dave Mason's contributions weren't that spectacular, not horrible by any means, just not that great. Was he trashed? Not really.

I can only go by the show I saw in October '94, but, the crowd was VERY supportive of the Fleetwood Mac lineup that played that day. I didn't hear ANY disparaging comments either during or after the show (regarding Bekka; there were some people who didn't think Dave Mason fit, but they didn't say he was "bad")....so, I just wonder how the whole "bash on Bekka" movement got started. :shrug:

[HomerMcvie]

I just wonder how the whole "bash on Bekka" movement got started. :shrug:

Come on, you know the answer! The drones who think the sun shines out of someone else's a**! :laugh:

[sjpdg]

Come on, you know the answer! The drones who think the sun shines out of someone else's a**! :laugh:

My sentiments exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[chriskisn]

Come on, you know the answer! The drones who think the sun shines out of someone else's a**! :laugh:

Actually it does seem something peculiar to Stevie fans. Sure there are lots of people who think that Lindsey was a great guitarist, and were sad to see him leave, but Billy, Rick and even Dave Mason didn't seem to be on the receiving end of the same level of negativity that Bekka had aimed at her.

I would understand if Bekka couldn't sing or they tried to pass her off as Stevie (say like Elmer Gantry) but other than a passing nod to Stevie in terms of performing a couple of her songs, it was very much a new incarnation of the band.

Look I love Ms Nicks, I really do. Her voice started me on this amazing journey through Fleetwood Mac 15 years ago. However, it must be said that Stevie Nicks = 1/16 of Fleetwood Mac. :sorry:

[chriskisn]

:laugh::lol::laugh::lol::laugh:

God love ya brother!!!

Wrong forum to discuss this (and I will post it in the correct forum too) but there is a new Dave Walker CD on the way :]

[HomerMcvie]

Actually it does seem something peculiar to Stevie fans. Sure there are lots of people who think that Lindsey was a great guitarist, and were sad to see him leave, but Billy, Rick and even Dave Mason didn't seem to be on the receiving end of the same level of negativity that Bekka had aimed at her.

I would understand if Bekka couldn't sing or they tried to pass her off as Stevie (say like Elmer Gantry) but other than a passing nod to Stevie in terms of performing a couple of her songs, it was very much a new incarnation of the band.

Look I love Ms Nicks, I really do. Her voice started me on this amazing journey through Fleetwood Mac 15 years ago. However, it must be said that Stevie Nicks = 1/16 of Fleetwood Mac. :sorry:

That's because the other members of FM, tend to have SANE fans, and the other members didn't have to step into "those shoes"(or whatever footwear is goat appropriate).

And that's the crazy, IGNORANT part of their "Bekka sucks" stance- I went to Time, pre-internet(for me, anyway), not knowing what, or who, to expect. And while I was disappointed that Chris wasn't there,.......know what? Bekka won me as a fan, that evening. She sang Dreaming the Dream, and I was blown away. "Wow, this girl's amazing!". But being open-minded, is the last thing, a certain member's fans, will be accused of being.

1/16th. Tru dat!

[wetcamelfood]

I'm just not a "drink the Kool Aid" devotee .

I'm wetcamelfood & I approve this message. :)

John

[chelluversu]

That's because the other members of FM, tend to have SANE fans, and the other members didn't have to step into "those shoes"(or whatever footwear is goat appropriate).

And that's the crazy, IGNORANT part of their "Bekka sucks" stance- I went to Time, pre-internet(for me, anyway), not knowing what, or who, to expect. And while I was disappointed that Chris wasn't there,.......know what? Bekka won me as a fan, that evening. She sang Dreaming the Dream, and I was blown away. "Wow, this girl's amazing!". But being open-minded, is the last thing, a certain member's fans, will be accused of being.

1/16th. Tru dat!

Well you can't really group all of Stevie's fans in that close-minded group. I am a huge Stevie fan, and I wouldn't say that Bekka sucks at all because I actually loved her. She got me with her vocals on Blow by Blow (love that song btw).

[Miss Vicky]

Well you can't really group all of Stevie's fans in that close-minded group. I am a huge Stevie fan, and I wouldn't say that Bekka sucks at all because I actually loved her. She got me with her vocals on Blow by Blow (love that song btw).

He didn't.

[chelluversu]

He didn't.

I know, I know... I'm just saying.
I agree with Homer... and Chris.

[StreetAngel95]

However, it must be said that Stevie Nicks = 1/16 of Fleetwood Mac. :sorry:

i'm agreeing a hundred percent, but unfortunately, to casual fans and to random people, if you say Fleetwood Mac, they're immediately gonna associate Stevie Nicks because she was most successful solo out of everyone else...:shrug:

[RickRobert]

i'm agreeing a hundred percent, but unfortunately, to casual fans and to random people, if you say Fleetwood Mac, they're immediately gonna associate Stevie Nicks because she was most successful solo out of everyone else...:shrug:

Yup, which is a shame, Go Insane and Chris' second eponymous were so much better... and diverse... than anything Stevie's done solo... IMO :shrug:

[wetcamelfood]

i'm agreeing a hundred percent, but unfortunately, to casual fans and to random people, if you say Fleetwood Mac, they're immediately gonna associate Stevie Nicks because she was most successful solo out of everyone else...:shrug:

To those people, see attached and drink up...

John

[sjpdg]

I'm wetcamelfood & I approve this message. :)

John

Why thank you!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[sjpdg]

To those people, see attached and drink up...

John

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;):laugh::D;):D:laugh:

[Artemis]

Well you can't really group all of Stevie's fans in that close-minded group. I am a huge Stevie fan, and I wouldn't say that Bekka sucks at all because I actually loved her. She got me with her vocals on Blow by Blow (love that song btw).

You know, that's so funny. I was listening to Time the other day, for the first time in ages, giving it a second chance, and Blow By Blow was the song that first made me think "wow!" about Bekka. She has one heck of a voice on her xD

[ButterCookie]

Yup, which is a shame, Go Insane and Chris' second eponymous were so much better... and diverse... than anything Stevie's done solo... IMO :shrug:

I agree completey :)

[Sleepless-Child]

I agree completey :)

You're evil http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/traurig/sad-smiley-021.gif :laugh:

That's exactly what I was thinking, but with OOTC. It's the best solo album from a Fleetwood Mac member, IMO.

I believe in every Fleetwood Mac incarnation, as long as it's by, well, Fleetwood Mac. My favorite band deserves an unconditional love, no matter who's in and who's out.

[ButterCookie]

You're evil http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/traurig/sad-smiley-021.gif :laugh:


I'm sorry :distress: I just... :( Is how I feel

[Sleepless-Child]

I'm sorry :distress: I just... :( Is how I feel

:xoxo: I was just kidding. I think...:laugh:
I understand the fact that you stand up for Christine (I know you don't care about Go Insane ha), so, I'll defend Stevie !
God, now I'm saying the exact opposite of my previous post...

[Hawkeye]

Stevie Nicks = 1/16 of Fleetwood Mac. :sorry:

You know I think the 16 members of Fleetwood Mac has been seriously exagerated over the years. Really I think 15 would be more accurate. Bob Brunning shouldn't be considered a member any more then Brett Tuggle is. He was the first back up musician in the band. Has mick or anyone near or close to the band ever came out and said exactly how many members have been in Fleetwood Mac through its history. I think 16 is just a number us fans have come up with.

[Hawkeye]

You're evil http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/traurig/sad-smiley-021.gif :laugh:

That's exactly what I was thinking, but with OOTC. It's the best solo album from a Fleetwood Mac member, IMO.

I believe in every Fleetwood Mac incarnation, as long as it's by, well, Fleetwood Mac. My favorite band deserves an unconditional love, no matter who's in and who's out.

I can't stand OOTC. It's my least favorite of Lindsey's solo albums other then Go Insane. I was initially sucked in by all those indulgent guitar solos on every song, but then quickly realized they just werent any good. Evrery song on there is definitly listenable, but they're all 6 out of 10's at best. If we're comparing solo albums released in the 90's I prefer Street Angel to OOTC.

I know OOTC is generally considered Lindsey's best grouping of songs, but I just don't feel that at all. His best group of songs are his Tusk songs, with all of his post Dance music very very close to it. I don't know how to group it, the original GOS which morphed into SYW and his 2 solo albums is just all gold, with the officially released 2008 GOS being the best of the bunch.

[chriskisn]

You know I think the 16 members of Fleetwood Mac has been seriously exagerated over the years. Really I think 15 would be more accurate. Bob Brunning shouldn't be considered a member any more then Brett Tuggle is. He was the first back up musician in the band. Has mick or anyone near or close to the band ever came out and said exactly how many members have been in Fleetwood Mac through its history. I think 16 is just a number us fans have come up with.

The difference being that Brunning was actually a member of Fleetwood Mac and would have continued to be so until perhaps this day if McVie hadn't left Mayall. Perhaps Brunning is exaggerating a bit but even on his website he says "I was a founder member of Fleetwood Mac..."

[chriskisn]

I can't stand OOTC. It's my least favorite of Lindsey's solo albums other then Go Insane. I was initially sucked in by all those indulgent guitar solos on every song, but then quickly realized they just werent any good. Evrery song on there is definitly listenable, but they're all 6 out of 10's at best. If we're comparing solo albums released in the 90's I prefer Street Angel to OOTC.


In my opinion it is the fact that those songs ARE listenable that makes it Lindsey's best solo work :laugh:

[michelej1]

Has mick or anyone near or close to the band ever came out and said exactly how many members have been in Fleetwood Mac through its history. I think 16 is just a number us fans have come up with.

When I bought that VIP ticket package for the Unleashed tour, Cory, the woman in charge of giving us the back stage tour and escorting us until the show started gave a trivia quiz to us and she asked how many members of the band there were. The answer was 16. I don't know where she got her trivia information from. I'm sure it didn't come directly from John McVie or anything. Maybe she got it from Wikipedia:laugh:. But I sort of think that technically speaking, the band acknowledges that it has had 16 official members.

Of course, Brett Tuggle has been affiliated with it longer than some of the formal members. Michele

[sjpdg]

Bob Brunning shouldn't be considered a member any more then Brett Tuggle is.

Amen to that!!!! I've felt that way forever. The guy is on one album, played a few dates before John got his act together and he's been playing on that miniscule bit of fame his entire life since. I read a book he wrote about FM years ago and honestly feel like I'd have been better off reading Tolstoy in Russian backwards in a mirror instead of reading his book!!!! And I can't read Russian - forwards, backwards, or any other way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The book was just horrid. I forced myself to read the whole thing, hated every minute of it and got rid of the book the first chance I got. I think I even recycled it instead of donating it to a library as I would normally do.

As you can tell, I have no love for Brunning.

[chriskisn]

Amen to that!!!! I've felt that way forever. The guy is on one album, played a few dates before John got his act together and he's been playing on that miniscule bit of fame his entire life since. I read a book he wrote about FM years ago and honestly feel like I'd have been better off reading Tolstoy in Russian backwards in a mirror instead of reading his book!!!! And I can't read Russian - forwards, backwards, or any other way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The book was just horrid. I forced myself to read the whole thing, hated every minute of it and got rid of the book the first chance I got. I think I even recycled it instead of donating it to a library as I would normally do.

As you can tell, I have no love for Brunning.

Actually I enjoyed Brunnings book but hey it isn't the first time we disagree :lol:

[ButterCookie]

No, I disagree. He's on one album therefore he was a member. Saying otherwise is like saying Gary Valentine wasn't a 'proper' member of Blondie but... he was :shrug:

I read a book he wrote about FM years ago and honestly feel like I'd have been better off reading Tolstoy in Russian backwards in a mirror instead of reading his book!!!! And I can't read Russian - forwards, backwards, or any other way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The book was just horrid.

Rumours and Lies? I didn't like it either. Not because of the information, the various inaccuracies but for the atrocious grammar. I too forced myself to read it but the hideous quality of the literature was enough to ensure that I'll never read it again :laugh:

[chiliD]

You know I think the 16 members of Fleetwood Mac has been seriously exagerated over the years. Really I think 15 would be more accurate. Bob Brunning shouldn't be considered a member any more then Brett Tuggle is.

Amen to that!!!!

Some things you just HAVE to accept as facts. :shrug: Such is life. Brunning was the original bass player of Fleetwood Mac can't dispute that, it's what IS. McVie flat out said "NO" to Peter Green the first 50 times he asked him to join. John "getting his act together" had nothing to do with it...it was finally a disagreement with Mayall about the direction of the Bluesbreakers that spurred McVie into bailing out and joining up with Peter, Mick & Jeremy.

I can't stand OOTC. .

Are you serious or just being negative to satisfy some "contrarian need"?

[Hawkeye]

so were there 5 memebers in the beatles Chili?

[chiliD]

so were there 5 memebers in the beatles Chili?

Yep, sure was. John, Paul, George, Pete Best & Stu Sutcliffe...but Stu later died....and Ringo replaced Pete Best. They eventually got down to 4, but for a while they had 5.

[chriskisn]

Yep, sure was. John, Paul, George, Pete Best & Stu Sutcliffe...but Stu later died....and Ringo replaced Pete Best. They eventually got down to 4, but for a while they had 5.

and Ian Stewart was a Rolling Stone :nod:

[chriskisn]

You know I think the 16 members of Fleetwood Mac has been seriously exagerated over the years. Really I think 15 would be more accurate. Bob Brunning shouldn't be considered a member any more then Brett Tuggle is. He was the first back up musician in the band. Has mick or anyone near or close to the band ever came out and said exactly how many members have been in Fleetwood Mac through its history. I think 16 is just a number us fans have come up with.

Well you need to go to the pre-rumours forum and vote on my poll because at the moment your argument is getting its backside kicked :lol:

[Musicman408]

I don't dislike Bekka. Her backup vocals on the Time album are so awesome, strong, and powerful- AMAZING. But when she's singing by herself on that album, it's not there.

[chriskisn]

I don't dislike Bekka. Her backup vocals on the Time album are so awesome, strong, and powerful- AMAZING. But when she's singing by herself on that album, it's not there.

Well I agree to the extent that I think she was more "restrained" in her solo songs than the Bekka we know from Shakin' the Cage or her solo work.

However (as I've said elsewhere) I still rate Dreamin' The Dream as one of the three most beautiful FM songs ever (along with Beautiful Child and Man of the World (sorry Songbird you only just missed out))

[sorcerer999]

No. Not at all.

[vivfox]

No. Not at all.


I agree with the new guy.

[PenguinHead]

I agree with the guy who agreed with the new guy.:cool:

[chriskisn]

No. Not at all.

Sorry that wasn't an option :lol:


:D

[Bramfan]

[QUOTE=zb1;891636]I know Bekka, Bonnie and knew Delaney very well.

Bekka did get the writing and singing genes from her dad.

She is a great writer and sings better than Bonnie.

The only problem is Bekka is a psychological mess. I saw her at her dad's memorial service in Jan. 08 make a complete fool of herself. She is irresponsible and needs to get her act together before she does herself some harm.[/QUO

If you knew Delaney ..you knew he adored his girls. Back off Steve! Jerk!!!!

[chiliD]

[QUOTE=zb1;891636]I know Bekka, Bonnie and knew Delaney very well.

Bekka did get the writing and singing genes from her dad.

She is a great writer and sings better than Bonnie.

The only problem is Bekka is a psychological mess. I saw her at her dad's memorial service in Jan. 08 make a complete fool of herself. She is irresponsible and needs to get her act together before she does herself some harm.[/QUO

If you knew Delaney ..you knew he adored his girls. Back off Steve! Jerk!!!!

First post and you're calling somebody a "jerk"....classless. Way to make a first impression.

[Heartboy]

Are you joking? She is not! :shocked:

It goes Stevie, Christine, Bekka.


She's talented and her back up vocals on some of Belinda Carlisle's songs are awesome & her Mother is talented and was on 'Roseanne' for a few years.:)

[chriskisn]

Are you joking? She is not! :shocked:



No we're not joking...

[Heartboy]

No we're not joking... Is being snotty a required thing around here? because if so I can give you it. That was 'MY' opinion. I however said she was talented. :wavey:

[ButterCookie]

From a musical/voicegeek point of view (RickRobert and I spend hours talking about this) it actually goes Christine, Bekka/Stevie...

[DefDumbandBlond]

Stevie & Christine definitely are the two best in my opinion. Bekka does have a nice voice but I just couldn't get into it or her songs that much at all.

[Heartboy]

Here is Bekka singing back up for Belinda Carlisle in 1988. The other singer went on to be a back up singer for Madonna. Bekka looks like her Mom here! :)


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[Silver Springs]

I saw this question, saw the version of "multiple choice" and just laughed. The only answer I could give would be an unabashed, unequivical no (Underline no, point some fingers at it, put a big exclamation point on the end, En-Oh).

[TerraRhiannon]

I think it's funny how this blew up because someone didn't even know Bekka existed, so therefore she could not put her in the poll. And it's predictable that someone will say that she's not a 'true' fan because Time is trash. Just keeping it real ;) But ya'll should be happy now because a new poll was made including Bekka :laugh:

:wavey: Peace.

[whitewingdove]

Lol this is cute, but I refuse to answer. We all know Stevie is the Queen of Rock'n'roll, and Christine is the queen of EVERYTHING british!

[FierySequences]

This is an old thread (but no biggie). I saw the "choices" and the answer is a clear "No"!

CM was the first and best!

followed by SN, although (I love Bekka) if she were given "Time" to flourish and represent within the band, SN may have had a run for her money!

(Yeah, I said it!) :D:xoxo:

[MacShadowsBall]

I remember this poll when it first was done. I believe it was in response to a poll somebody had posted on the Rumours forum asking who's the best female Mac singer - Christine or Stevie. The poster was (I believe unaware) of Bekka, and nonetheless was slammed by Ledgies for that omission.

Awe, the memories....:cool:

[chriskisn]

As the person who created this poll, I guess I don't need to point out that it was done more tongue in cheek than anything else. Although it is well worth remembering that while she might not have had the success of the other two ladies, technically she probably is the better singer :laugh:

[billwebster]

I know this is merely a poll for fun, but Bekka has got really stong pipes. She is just not showing any of them on the "Time" album, well, maybe on "Nothing Without You". This is her best song with the band. On record, she peaked on the "Bekka & Billy" album and it's a shame she has not put out more recordings of her own. She is in the same league of singers as Joss Stone for sure.

However, I must say that from the Fleetwood Mac camp, I prefer Christine's voice over Bekka's. But I also love the Lola Thomas album so what do I know about shawls and incense? ;-) For completeness sake, I must say something positive on here about Stevie, too: I feel she is stronger as a songwriter than as a vocalist, but nobody else can sing her songs the way she does them.

[chriskisn]

I know this is merely a poll for fun, but Bekka has got really stong pipes. She is just not showing any of them on the "Time" album, well, maybe on "Nothing Without You". This is her best song with the band. On record, she peaked on the "Bekka & Billy" album and it's a shame she has not put out more recordings of her own. She is in the same league of singers as Joss Stone for sure.

However, I must say that from the Fleetwood Mac camp, I prefer Christine's voice over Bekka's. But I also love the Lola Thomas album so what do I know about shawls and incense? ;-) For completeness sake, I must say something positive on here about Stevie, too: I feel she is stronger as a songwriter than as a vocalist, but nobody else can sing her songs the way she does them.

Sadly you are correct, Time doesn't show off Bekka anywhere near as well as The Zoo album did or her later solo works. As for Lola Thomas, I suspect she puts most other sings to shame! :nod:

[SteveMacD]

The big issues with "Time" as I see them:

1. Not enough Billy Burnette. Considering how beautiful he sounds with Christine and with Bekka, there were a lot missed opportunities to really create something special.

2. Dave Mason. Had he been the same Dave we knew from ALL of his albums up until "Time", it could have worked. But Dave as a hard rocker (and these days, a blues man) just doesn't work.

3. Not letting Bekka be Bekka. Yeah, Bekka and Billy were heading in a soulful country direction. LET 'EM. For God's sake, if there's a credible creative direction to follow, then run with it. I'd rather have ten albums of Bekka and Billy doing their thing (albeit with a bit more edge, which a great rhythm section can provide) than a hundred albums of Dave "We Just Disagree" Mason trying to be a hard rocker.

4. Too many extra musicians. It's a good band on its own. Why bother?

5. Too many different producers. Although, to their credit, all did better than Greg Ladanyi. (Still wished Patrick Leonard produced it....)


Bekka was a strong, powerful vocalist who had an equally strong stage presence. Yeah, she had blonde hair, but if Mick wasn't serious about letting her be herself, why even bother?

I suspect there are too many people giving bad advice to Fleetwood Mac, then and now.

[Macfanforever]

I love her country tunes.

[Johnny Stew]

Speaking of Bekka, she sings backing vocals on four tracks on Bonnie Tyler's upcoming album, 'Rocks And Honey.' Specifically, "This Is Going To Hurt," "Flat On The Floor," "Love Is The Knife," and "Lord Help Me."

[WatchChain]

Bekka Bramlett is a fine vocalist. She has a fantastic voice and is even a good songwriter. I mean no disrespect to her or any post-Rumours lineup member.

HOWEVER, putting Bekka Bramlett and Billy Burnett in front of John McVie and Mick Fleetwood and calling it FLEETWOOD MAC is like putting John Mayer and Bruno Mars in front of Charlie Watts and Ronnie Wood and calling it THE ROLLING STONES.......I'm sorry, it just didn't work and it can't be done. :shrug:

[becca]

"putting Bekka Bramlett and Billy Burnett in front of John McVie and Mick Fleetwood and calling it FLEETWOOD MAC"

Yeah well, when Buckingham and Nicks joined a lot of fans of the Peter Green and Bob Welch eras likely felt exactly the same. Fleetwood and McVie is all the band name guarantees to me though. :D

[SteveMacD]

Bekka Bramlett is a fine vocalist. She has a fantastic voice and is even a good songwriter. I mean no disrespect to her or any post-Rumours lineup member.

HOWEVER, putting Bekka Bramlett and Billy Burnett in front of John McVie and Mick Fleetwood and calling it FLEETWOOD MAC is like putting John Mayer and Bruno Mars in front of Charlie Watts and Ronnie Wood and calling it THE ROLLING STONES.......I'm sorry, it just didn't work and it can't be done. :shrug:
How can you possibly compare these bands? Fleetwood Mac started as a blues band lead by Peter Green and Jemy Spencer, then became a folky jazz pop rock band lead by Danny Kirwan, Bob Welch, and Christine McVie, and ultimately become a California pop band lead by Christine McVie, Lindsey Buckingham, and Stevie Nicks. Why is the thought of them becoming an Americana band lead by Billy Burnette and Bekka Bramlett so out there? By contrast, the Rolling Stones have always been lead by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards.

[wetcamelfood]

Speaking of Bekka, she sings backing vocals on four tracks on Bonnie Tyler's upcoming album, 'Rocks And Honey.' Specifically, "This Is Going To Hurt," "Flat On The Floor," "Love Is The Knife," and "Lord Help Me."

Thanks for posting this, didn't know about it. :) You say upcoming so what's the release date?

John

[Johnny Stew]

Thanks for posting this, didn't know about it. :) You say upcoming so what's the release date?

Hey there, John -- it's been a long time! I hope all is well in your world.

'Rocks And Honey' was already released in a few European countries in early March, but it won't be released in the UK until May 6th, and then in the US & Canada on May 14th.

Warner Bros is handling the domestic release.

[wetcamelfood]

Hey there, John -- it's been a long time! I hope all is well in your world.

'Rocks And Honey' was already released in a few European countries in early March, but it won't be released in the UK until May 6th, and then in the US & Canada on May 14th.

Warner Bros is handling the domestic release.

Thanks Johnny! Yeah crazy at work now. Anyway, thanks again, I'll preorder now. :)

John

[WatchChain]

How can you possibly compare these bands? Fleetwood Mac started as a blues band lead by Peter Green and Jemy Spencer, then became a folky jazz pop rock band lead by Danny Kirwan, Bob Welch, and Christine McVie, and ultimately become a California pop band lead by Christine McVie, Lindsey Buckingham, and Stevie Nicks. Why is the thought of them becoming an Americana band lead by Billy Burnette and Bekka Bramlett so out there? By contrast, the Rolling Stones have always been lead by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards.

I have great respect for the early lineups, but the Rumours lineup is what shot the band into the stratosphere. When members were coming, going and being replaced in the early 70's, the band had not yet become a global phenomenon (yes, I know they were a classic in England). However, the Nicks/Buckingham/McVie lineup sealed the fate of the band forever. If the 91-94 new lineup had gone out and tried something more original, I may have been more open minded......but, getting Bekka Bramlett, Billy Burnett and Dave Mason onstage to perform things like "Gold Dust Woman", "Say You Love Me", "Don't Stop", "Go Your Own Way" and "Dreams" while opening for REO SPEEDWAGON and PAT BENATAR on a NOSTALGIA TOUR PACKAGE was nothing short of a ridiculous plan to keep Mick Fleetwood's rent paid. I'm not quite sure what was "Americana" about it. :shrug:

[becca]

Ahem. I was around to hear a lot of the Mystery To Me album played on the radio in western North America. But for Bob Weston and Clifford Davis' spanners in the works it might've been the Bob Welch lineup that hit the stratosphere of sales.

As usual there are just a couple too many Buckingham-Nicks worshippers who think they've discovered some ultimate unbeatable group to champion negatively against all else. I had those statospheric selling LPs and cassettes back in the day and have often come to wish I'd kept my money. It went up noses and inflated too many heads. Time is an above average collection of work superior to the over produced Tango In The Night and self indulgent Tusk (almost a Lindsey Buckingham solo album in truth). Billy Burnette has been a great guitarist for quite some time, John Fogerty wouldn't have had him in his backing band otherwise. And as far as sales and radio play Fogerty/Creedence Clearwater Revival blows away even the drama queen heights of Buckingham-Nicks grafted onto Fleetwood Mac. He even got someone worse than Clifford Davis (suing him for sounding like himself among many other things).

You obviously don't know what you're typing about and your worship does neither the objects of your affections nor yourself very little real good. Stick to the Rumours uber alles areas; most people got bored of the whole self absorbed in their marketable relationships lineup ages ago and went back to listening to mere music.

P.S.: sorry for the rudeness but do people go to Buckingham-Nicks areas and tell them how insignificant or unreal or not worthy they are? Both are great artists in their ways so why the need to put down something else. When commercial success means everything you get a load of imitative crap mostly.