View Full Version : Original "Edge Of 17" Video??
djdanii
04-14-2010, 02:45 PM
I came across this video on youtube and wondering if it was originally supposed to be the videoclip for "Edge Of Seventeen"? Is there any place or anyone that has a HQ copy of the video. I kinda like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1b53KMS4RM&feature=PlayList&p=B2C7B32F6CA6E3FD&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=62
thank you
holidayroad
04-14-2010, 03:04 PM
It is supposed to be the video. I have only seen it in this condition. It is something else that needs an official release!
Ghost_Tracker
04-14-2010, 05:28 PM
I came across this video on youtube and wondering if it was originally supposed to be the videoclip for "Edge Of Seventeen"? Is there any place or anyone that has a HQ copy of the video. I kinda like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1b53KMS4RM&feature=PlayList&p=B2C7B32F6CA6E3FD&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=62
thank you
I've seen it claimed so many times that this was "never released," "never played on MTV" etc. but I swear to God I remember seeing it. Not sure what the problem was.
Maybe there was just some sort of dispute over legal stuff, or maybe Stevie or someone didn't like the way it came out (similar to the original "Civil War" version of "Stand Back"). But I do remember seeing it! :)
Musicman408
04-14-2010, 05:32 PM
Never seen this- thanks for posting!
SapphireSister
04-14-2010, 05:34 PM
I have one thing to say - BOUNCE Stevie, bounce! On another note, it looks like she's leaning over to snort a line before she picks up the doll at 1:26. And she's really got the devil in her eyes. Wicked!
O.k. last thing: At 3:33 the guy's saying "Stevie, it's time to part with your doll. Come on, you're all grown up now and a rock and roll star. You can't be carrying that thing around forever".
SuiteShangriLa
04-14-2010, 07:06 PM
i have had this on video for many many years. theres two versions. this one, and one that is just the performance parts (doesnt have all the other shots with the babydoll and of her and her brother) I also have alternate versions/edits of SDMHA, SB, IAF, and TTM. the quality of my video is alot better!
StreetAngel95
04-14-2010, 07:32 PM
i have had this on video for many many years. theres two versions. this one, and one that is just the performance parts (doesnt have all the other shots with the babydoll and of her and her brother) I also have alternate versions/edits of SDMHA, SB, IAF, and TTM. the quality of my video is alot better!
and is there a reason as to why you're not posting it?!?!?!?!?!:blob1:
djdanii
04-14-2010, 07:44 PM
i have had this on video for many many years. theres two versions. this one, and one that is just the performance parts (doesnt have all the other shots with the babydoll and of her and her brother) I also have alternate versions/edits of SDMHA, SB, IAF, and TTM. the quality of my video is alot better!
Any way you can send me (and all of us) the videos? that would be totally awesome!!!
I'm making a complete Stevie Nicks DVD for my mom
So far I have the following videos all in DVD quality, Would be nice to have the alternates.
Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around (with Tom Petty)
Insider (with Tom Petty)
Leather And Lace
Edge Of Seventeen (Crappy quality you-tube version)
Edge Of Seventeen (HBO Live Version)
Stand Back
Stand Back (Scarlet Version)
If Anyone Falls
Nightbird
Talk To Me
I Can’t Wait
Rooms On Fire
Whole Lotta Trouble
Sometimes It’s A Bitch
Blue Denim
If You Ever Did Believe (with Sheryl Crow)
Every Day
Sorcerer (with Sheryl Crow)
Dreams (with Deep Dish)
Stand Back (Tracy Takes You Home Mixshow)
Crash Into Me
Landslide (Orchestral Version)
Rhiannon (Live from Burt Sugarman's The Midnight Special)
Ghost_Tracker
04-14-2010, 09:29 PM
I have one thing to say - BOUNCE Stevie, bounce! On another note, it looks like she's leaning over to snort a line before she picks up the doll at 1:26. And she's really got the devil in her eyes. Wicked!
O.k. last thing: At 3:33 the guy's saying "Stevie, it's time to part with your doll. Come on, you're all grown up now and a rock and roll star. You can't be carrying that thing around forever".
I've always felt that that's supposed to be symbolic of the "loss of innocence" that's sort of "alluded to" in the song. .... :nod:
Meowi
04-15-2010, 05:05 AM
It's a bit... cheezy,
But what a great song!
Maybe it didn't have the EO17 'haunting' feel that she sings it with?
GODDESS6
04-15-2010, 05:23 AM
love this video version, stevie looks wonderful in it~
SuiteShangriLa
04-15-2010, 06:11 AM
and is there a reason as to why you're not posting it?!?!?!?!?!:blob1:
ill work on getting them converted and posted
vermicious knid
04-15-2010, 09:36 AM
Danny Goldberg wrote this:
I got it into my head that I should direct a video for “Edge of Seventeen,” the third single. I felt that Stevie’s own environment, filled with cosmic drawings and knickknacks, and her own private flamboyance would be a great visual accompaniment to the song. Somehow I forgot that the most important thing about a video is how the performer herself looks. The cinematographer we got lit her in a way that was unflattering. The video itself was an amateurish mess and had to be totally scrapped. Luckily she had recently shot an HBO special and we were able to excerpt her performance of “Edge of Seventeen” to maintain her exposure on MTV. I had a significantly enhanced respect for video directors and never tried dabbling in their field again. The experience reminded me that it was the artist’s job to be creative and my role was to be their advocate. Although Stevie was irritated for a few weeks, she soon forgave me and never mentioned this embarrassing error in judgment.
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=37411
SapphireSister
04-15-2010, 12:10 PM
Although Stevie was irritated for a few weeks, she soon forgave me and never mentioned this embarrassing error in judgment.[/I]
Now that's funny. Good to know she's so forgiving lol.
tilthefirefades
04-15-2010, 11:15 PM
I love the spoken intro, it's neat to hear Stevie speaking her lyrics :D
Ghost_Tracker
04-15-2010, 11:24 PM
Danny Goldberg wrote this:
I got it into my head that I should direct a video for “Edge of Seventeen,” the third single. I felt that Stevie’s own environment, filled with cosmic drawings and knickknacks, and her own private flamboyance would be a great visual accompaniment to the song. Somehow I forgot that the most important thing about a video is how the performer herself looks. The cinematographer we got lit her in a way that was unflattering. The video itself was an amateurish mess and had to be totally scrapped. Luckily she had recently shot an HBO special and we were able to excerpt her performance of “Edge of Seventeen” to maintain her exposure on MTV. I had a significantly enhanced respect for video directors and never tried dabbling in their field again. The experience reminded me that it was the artist’s job to be creative and my role was to be their advocate. Although Stevie was irritated for a few weeks, she soon forgave me and never mentioned this embarrassing error in judgment.
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=37411
It's so weird because I do remember seeing it on tv. And it was certainly before the Internet got started so I know for sure I'm not confusing it with seeing it on youtube or something. Maybe they just played it a few times on MTV and pulled it; or maybe they played it on a local station or something along those lines. But I certainly do remember seeing it on tv "back in the day," yeah! :)
P.S. - By the way, I think maybe there's "proof" that I'm not misremembering this; the video is clearly from a poor-quality video tape, presumably from taping it off the air when it was first broadcast. You can tell from the way it sort of "skips" at the beginning. So I really do think I'm right, this was on tv - it's definitely a puzzle for me that's fersure! :nod:
Macfanforever
04-16-2010, 09:03 PM
I wonder how many tape generations this video got copied, before it got in our hands.ya I'd notice there was a glich {Drop out} at the beginning of the video.Since video is part of my livelyhood,Repairing equipment,shooting videos and dubbing them too.
to me the master or first copy tape, VHS or Betamax was badly beatin up by poor care of badly mantained vcr,Yes they get the munchies too,it got hungry and eatin' the tape.Also the speed of the original recording matters too,if was recorded on slp,ep or beta 3 speed, which these copies we see on here look like they were.Thank goodness when Stevie got the Standback Civil war video on dvd.
anyway I hope there is a superclean master tape sitting somewhere
in the archives.
djdanii
04-18-2010, 11:20 AM
so about them videos...
(clears throat)
lol:blob1:
SuiteShangriLa
04-18-2010, 03:17 PM
I wonder how many tape generations this video got copied, before it got in our hands.ya I'd notice there was a glich {Drop out} at the beginning of the video.Since video is part of my livelyhood,Repairing equipment,shooting videos and dubbing them too.
to me the master or first copy tape, VHS or Betamax was badly beatin up by poor care of badly mantained vcr,Yes they get the munchies too,it got hungry and eatin' the tape.Also the speed of the original recording matters too,if was recorded on slp,ep or beta 3 speed, which these copies we see on here look like they were.Thank goodness when Stevie got the Standback Civil war video on dvd.
anyway I hope there is a superclean master tape sitting somewhere
in the archives.
the vhs i have is pretty clean and clear. there are 2 or 3 alternate edits/versions of each video. it includes the civil war version of SB, along with 2 other edits of the classic SB video. 3 alt. edits of SDMHA, 2 for IAF, and TTM. and the 2 edits of EO17 (concept/performance edit and performance only edit) i think thats it. might have Insider video as well but im not sure. before each video there is info on the director, the dates, song title/artist of course, and what i assume are copyright/catalog numbers? i have the original edit for TTM on another tape which was put up on youtube awhile back. it was the edit that was world premiered on MTV (as seen in the clip). the quality only looks bad cause it was uploaded thru an ipod camera.
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djdanii
04-19-2010, 01:46 PM
my mom has a VHS to DVD recorder!!
SuiteShangriLa
04-19-2010, 01:51 PM
my mom has a VHS to DVD recorder!!
thats what i need! i have so many videos i need to transfer to dvd
Meowi
04-20-2010, 05:02 AM
I love the spoken intro, it's neat to hear Stevie speaking her lyrics :D
True!
:D
It really get's the listener into focus.
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