Did anyone else notice!!!!!

[sandralgill]

I meant to post this a few days ago.......did anyone notice:shrug: Taylor's necklace on the interview with Richard Wilkins on the Today show ( Australia ), the banner was blocking it..... but.....I saw the top of a half moon!!!!!! Stevie gives these to her FRIENDS!!!!!!!:blob2::blob2:

[CADreaming]

She probably bought it. :laugh:

[ButterCookie]

:laugh: That wouldn't surprise me. And I sure as hell don't think Stevie would keep a stash of them to dish out to new 'friends'.

[DefDumbandBlond]

I agree, she probably bought it herself!

[Enchanted_Stevi]

Stevie probably hands those things out like candy LOL

[PutTheBlameOnMe]

I wouldn't give Taylor Swift the time of day nevermind a necklace.

Then again if I was Stevie, I'd refuse to acknowledge her as a friend and remove all tracks of our "duet" from my mind.

[goldustsongbird]

OH MY GAWD! I bet they have like, sleepovers and stay up in their little nighties and do each others hair!!!!!!!!!!!! WAY RAD!

[StreetAngel95]

i'm kind of upset that Taylor duetted with Stevie.....loving Stevie was kinda always "MY THING" in my group of friends....I SAW HER FIRST!! Now Taylor loves her....my friends like her.....it's kind of pissin me off! :sorry:( i have this thing for not liking mainstream pop artists....)

[wheart]

I'm already getting tired of Taylor Swift. But, with the shelf life of modern day pop acts, she won't be around too much longer. :wavey:

[APerfectLie]

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I must say, I am not amused. Taylor Swift is not a sister of the moon!

[wheart]

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I must say, I am not amused. Taylor Swift is not a sister of the moon!

more like "hacker of the tune"

[ButterCookie]

Stewart Little is her father. I promise you.

[sandralgill]

Obviously none of you like Taylor.....agreed it was a bad performance. I have seen her sing live at many an awards performance and she nails it every time.....have any of you even listened to her albums?:confused: And she was surrounded by enemies who thought she shouldn't even be there......Beyonce, Kanye etc.... No wonder she did a dodgy job.

[Tango]

^^^

Well, chin up, and all of that--and you being a Taylor fan, it's good you will admit it was bad. As they often sang on American Idol:

. . . you had a bad day
You're taking one down
You sing a sad song just to turn it around
You say you don't know
You tell me don't lie
You work at a smile and you go for a ride
You had a bad day
The camera don't lie
You hurry back down and you really don't mind
You had a bad day
You had a bad day

[Lexi]

OH MY GAWD! I bet they have like, sleepovers and stay up in their little nighties and do each others hair!!!!!!!!!!!! WAY RAD!


Hahahahahahahaha.

[DeeGeMe]

I think Stevie probably did give the necklace to Taylor. Very sweet of Stevie if so. Of course I still don't think Taylor can sing a note but still. :cool:

[carrie721]

OH MY GAWD! I bet they have like, sleepovers and stay up in their little nighties and do each others hair!!!!!!!!!!!! WAY RAD!

stevie told taylor that la mer would make her look weeks younger.

i'm kind of upset that Taylor duetted with Stevie.....loving Stevie was kinda always "MY THING" in my group of friends....I SAW HER FIRST!! Now Taylor loves her....my friends like her.....it's kind of pissin me off! :sorry:( i have this thing for not liking mainstream pop artists....)

just think, you not only have to share stevie with taylor and your friends, you also have to share her with every man who had a recording contract between the 1976 and 1987.

[goldustsongbird]

just think, you not only have to share stevie with taylor and your friends, you also have to share her with every man who had a recording contract between the 1976 and 1987.

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

[carrie721]

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

to be fair, by "recording contract," i meant "dimebag."

[GypsyBlueEyes]

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I must say, I am not amused. Taylor Swift is not a sister of the moon!

Agreed! Totally grossed out by this turn of events.

[CADreaming]

Stewart Little is her father. I promise you.

:confused: I thought she was Stevie's love child with Waddy. I mean, she has his hair... besides, only a mother would let her child butcher her signature song. :wavey:

[Musicman408]

more like "hacker of the tune"

That was clever! Good job! :nod:

[gypsy4life]

She's a Stevie POSER!!!!!

[daniellaaarisen]

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I must say, I am not amused. Taylor Swift is not a sister of the moon!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[SortaSavageLike]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

[IKV Nexis]

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

STELLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bucklind17]

I think Stevie probably did give the necklace to Taylor. Very sweet of Stevie if so. Of course I still don't think Taylor can sing a note but still. :cool:

Agree! I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Stevie gave her a little something special, especially if Taylor is as big of a fan as she has claimed.

[Lexi]

Sooner or later, someone will interview her and comment on it and Taylor will tell the whole story..

So which one of us is going to follow every interview Taylor does *just* to confirm if she was given the necklace by Stevie? Not me.

[vivfox]

to be fair, by "recording contract," i meant "dimebag."

:]:blob2::laugh:

[louielouie2000]

I have to say I find it sweet... and even cooler that Taylor is actually wearing it in a TV interview. The world is not a particularly happy place right now... I think any kind of friendships or alliances that can be forged is something to be thankful and happy for.

[Meowi]

She gives the Moons to friends, such as Bette Midler and Tai Babilonia (ice-skater) have them.
She gets them made by her personal jeweller, from the original one bought from England around the Tusk era.

I've seen black pendants, but I havn't seen Taylor's tan version.

[Lexi]

I didn't think Taylor's was tan.. I assumed it was silver and just the lighting that makes it look a bit off.

[sandralgill]

It is a gold one actually.

[blondyy-x]

Look on the bright side - If the world ever takes a sudden shift in reality and Stevie gets made to duet again, she can use the half moon to strangle her outta tune ass when she butchers another song.

[OldTimer]

I have to say I find it sweet... and even cooler that Taylor is actually wearing it in a TV interview. The world is not a particularly happy place right now... I think any kind of friendships or alliances that can be forged is something to be thankful and happy for.

Bravo Louie. The Taylor-hate on this site is getting pretty damned depressing. :distress:

[belladonnadream]

i'm kind of upset that Taylor duetted with Stevie.....loving Stevie was kinda always "MY THING" in my group of friends....I SAW HER FIRST!! Now Taylor loves her....my friends like her.....it's kind of pissin me off! :sorry:( i have this thing for not liking mainstream pop artists....)
I've ALWAYS been like that too..I remember when Smashing Pumpkins first redid Landslide...I was horrified! I remember thinking ..."great...all my friends who never liked Stevie and liked SP are all gonna jump on the bandwagon and like her just cause a band THEY liked redid her song"....all of a sudden she was cool to them when before she was nothing but a joke to them..."ewww you like Stevie Nicks? She's a witch...she's fat...she has no voice!" That's all I heard...I hated them for that!

[Christopher]

Bravo Louie. The Taylor-hate on this site is getting pretty damned depressing. :distress:

Agreed! Stevie loves to mentor these young female singers who actually write their own songs. So I am not at all surprised that she agreed to the duet, and no doubt gave Taylor the necklace with all her blessings:xoxo:. I think Stevie is a class act with no pretentious bones in her body...which is a small part of why we love her.

While Taylor's music or voice may not be everyones cup of tea, and aside from her ill-fated Rhiannon performance, I for one can really appreciate that Taylor Swift has become successful in part by being a great young role model, who is well spoken and possess poise beyond her years. She has not lowered herself by wearing skimpy outfits or parading around in demeaning videos using the tired gimmicks of much of todays young artists. In that regard she is a breath of fresh air.

The blame of all this Taylor controversy some could say, should be directed at the producers of the Grammy's or even Waddy ( who serves as Stevie's musical director), who upon hearing the initial rehearsals, could have circumvented this disaster and suggested a more Taylor-made Stevie classic. Taylor would have been better suited for Landslide, Dreams or even Gypsy. Rhiannon has become a rock anthem and is way tooo heavy in depth and scope next to Taylor's sweet pop/country fare.

[ButterCookie]

have any of you even listened to her albums?

I have. Numerous times. My younger sister is a big fan.

[GypsyBlueEyes]

Bravo Louie. The Taylor-hate on this site is getting pretty damned depressing. :distress:

This isn't even a Taylor forum made up of Taylor-centered fans. I've read a lot worse written about Stevie on the Ledge and for the fans who don't necessarily enjoy reading it, that gets pretty damned depressing for us.

Just sayin' :shrug:

[vivfox]

I have. Numerous times. My younger sister is a big fan.

My daddy said, "stay away from Juliet."

[ButterCookie]

My daddy said, "stay away from Juliet."

Oh don't :laugh: I can't stand it, and the fact that I love Shakespeare makes that song even worse.

[Remy]

She's a Stevie POSER!!!!!

:) unlike the Ledgies, who purchase lookalike Stevie moon pendants themselves... :)

[louielouie2000]

This isn't even a Taylor forum made up of Taylor-centered fans. I've read a lot worse written about Stevie on the Ledge and for the fans who don't necessarily enjoy reading it, that gets pretty damned depressing for us.

Just sayin' :shrug:

You certainly have a point. But when people rip on Stevie on these boards, it's usually because of a subpar performance, etc... NOT because of somebody who may have befriended Stevie. Trashing people's singing performances is one thing... but giving someone hell simply because they became friends with what seems to be a very decent person, is quite another in my book. When two decent people become friends, or show respect for one another, that's never a really bad thing in my book...

[wheart]

but when Taylor wears the infamous crescent pendant, who does everyone start talking about? Stevie. Mama's getting free press with every handout. Stevie knows what she's doin'! ;)

[louielouie2000]

:) unlike the Ledgies, who purchase lookalike Stevie moon pendants themselves... :)

Precisely! If anything, Stevie's fans who wear the crescent moon necklaces are the "real" posers. After all... it's Stevie who wears the necklaces... and gives copies to those she admires. Last I checked, Stevie has given no Ledgies crescent moons personally. Instead, those who wear them are simply emulating such. Not that I think there's anything wrong with that at all... but stones should not be thrown in glass houses, as Remy pointed out! :nod:

[holidayroad]

Precisely! If anything, Stevie's fans who wear the crescent moon necklaces are the "real" posers. After all... it's Stevie who wears the necklaces... and gives copies to those she admires. Last I checked, Stevie has given no Ledgies crescent moons personally. Instead, those who wear them are simply emulating such. Not that I think there's anything wrong with that at all... but stones should not be thrown in glass houses, as Remy pointed out! :nod:

Lol! Stevie ought to give crescent moon necklaces to all of us who have been her fans for 25 years or more!! We've stuck by her longer than a lot of her 'so-called friends' have!! :)

[carrie721]

Lol! Stevie ought to give crescent moon necklaces to all of us who have been her fans for 25 years or more!! We've stuck by her longer than a lot of her 'so-called friends' have!! :)

that's an interesting comment.

fans exist in a sphere far removed from the nitty gritty human version of stevie, especially since stevie came of age as a celebrity in a time when there was no TMZ, 24-hour news, or paparazzi. stevie was allowed the luxury of cultivating her public image on her own terms, and has managed to maintain an air of sophistication and wholesomeness despite spending almost a third of her life as a drug addict.

i'm not interested in indicting stevie as a bad person, but to imply that fans have been more loyal than people who knew/know her in real life is a false and unfair analogy. as a fan, you get what stevie gives you and only what she gives you. and compared to other artists, it's really not much. this allows fans to create a fiction about stevie's real life in order to connect the dots in the stevie nicks scavenger game.

the people she surrounds herself with are people whose responsibility it is to essentially keep her segregated from reality. this is a woman who hasn't driven in over 30 years and probably couldn't tell you the price of a gallon of milk. this is a woman who thought her hair turned grey not because she was in her 40's but because she was going through klonopin withdrawal. this is a woman who gave prescription meds to her underling to see what kind of effect it had. if you've ever had a delusional person in your life, you know how difficult it is to sustain their fantasies and act as a buffer between them and the real world. you also know how quickly you can be tossed out of their favor if you disagree with them or offer them a view of reality or themselves that they dislike. this is the situation the people in stevie's real circle are in. and frankly, i don't blame some of them for getting sick of it.

[OldTimer]

I think holidayroad's comment was meant in a light-hearted joking manner, not as a serious demand. Hence beginning it with "LOL". :)

[Nathan]

that's an interesting comment.

fans exist in a sphere far removed from the nitty gritty human version of stevie, especially since stevie came of age as a celebrity in a time when there was no TMZ, 24-hour news, or paparazzi. stevie was allowed the luxury of cultivating her public image on her own terms, and has managed to maintain an air of sophistication and wholesomeness despite spending almost a third of her life as a drug addict.

i'm not interested in indicting stevie as a bad person, but to imply that fans have been more loyal than people who knew/know her in real life is a false and unfair analogy. as a fan, you get what stevie gives you and only what she gives you. and compared to other artists, it's really not much. this allows fans to create a fiction about stevie's real life in order to connect the dots in the stevie nicks scavenger game.

the people she surrounds herself with are people whose responsibility it is to essentially keep her segregated from reality. this is a woman who hasn't driven in over 30 years and probably couldn't tell you the price of a gallon of milk. this is a woman who thought her hair turned grey not because she was in her 40's but because she was going through klonopin withdrawal. this is a woman who gave prescription meds to her underling to see what kind of effect it had. if you've ever had a delusional person in your life, you know how difficult it is to sustain their fantasies and act as a buffer between them and the real world. you also know how quickly you can be tossed out of their favor if you disagree with them or offer them a view of reality or themselves that they dislike. this is the situation the people in stevie's real circle are in. and frankly, i don't blame some of them for getting sick of it.


Great post, very insightful and accurate.

[carrie721]

I think holidayroad's comment was meant in a light-hearted joking manner, not as a serious demand. Hence beginning it with "LOL". :)

i realize this. but it brought to light a mentality i've noticed among stevie fans over the years. my response was respectful and it's clear i wasn't attacking holidayroad.

Great post, very insightful and accurate.

thanks.

[louielouie2000]

that's an interesting comment.

fans exist in a sphere far removed from the nitty gritty human version of stevie, especially since stevie came of age as a celebrity in a time when there was no TMZ, 24-hour news, or paparazzi. stevie was allowed the luxury of cultivating her public image on her own terms, and has managed to maintain an air of sophistication and wholesomeness despite spending almost a third of her life as a drug addict.

i'm not interested in indicting stevie as a bad person, but to imply that fans have been more loyal than people who knew/know her in real life is a false and unfair analogy. as a fan, you get what stevie gives you and only what she gives you. and compared to other artists, it's really not much. this allows fans to create a fiction about stevie's real life in order to connect the dots in the stevie nicks scavenger game.

the people she surrounds herself with are people whose responsibility it is to essentially keep her segregated from reality. this is a woman who hasn't driven in over 30 years and probably couldn't tell you the price of a gallon of milk. this is a woman who thought her hair turned grey not because she was in her 40's but because she was going through klonopin withdrawal. this is a woman who gave prescription meds to her underling to see what kind of effect it had. if you've ever had a delusional person in your life, you know how difficult it is to sustain their fantasies and act as a buffer between them and the real world. you also know how quickly you can be tossed out of their favor if you disagree with them or offer them a view of reality or themselves that they dislike. this is the situation the people in stevie's real circle are in. and frankly, i don't blame some of them for getting sick of it.

Great post, Carrie. You're absolutely right... so many rabid Stevie fans feel as if they have some sort of entitlement to the woman... some sort of ownership. When in reality, we really don't know anything about who the REAL Stevie is. We know and love the public persona extremely well... but that's the extent of it.

I can honestly say that I'm just fine with that. Odds are, she's probably a pretty taxing and annoying person to be around in a day to day fashion. I have no doubts she's quite deluded and demanding... after all, she's been rich and famous pretty much all of her adult life... and before that, she was the daughter of a tycoon. She's made it a point of saying throughout her career that once she "made it," that she never looked at a price tag again, and really knows nothing of regular life. I think knowing her personally would probably sour me to her music... which I would NOT want.

I have somewhat comparable first hand experience of such people. My boyfriend is friends with a local Charlotte celeb couple. They're driven around in a $400,000 Maybach... own tens of millions of dollars in mansions/penthouses in just the Charlotte area alone, have a private jet, they hang out with some of the biggest sports and music stars in the world, etc. While this particular couple may be fun to spend an evening with once or twice a year, that's about all I can tolerate. They're extremely friendly, well meaning people... but their lack of understanding and patience for the real world is maddening. Even the way they expect their "friends" to elevate them... and jump through hoops for their time is blood curdling.

In the end, saying we know or even have a right to Stevie is like saying we know or have a right to our garbage collectors :laugh:. We know both of their public personas and jobs very well. We generally know what to expect of them. But we know nothing of their day to day lives at home, or what goes on behind their closed doors. And why would we, to be honest? :shrug:

[goldustsongbird]

to be fair, by "recording contract," i meant "dimebag."

Hey, you suck! I was going to make a sig specific comment, but you changed it! Hopey-changey bish. :xoxo:

But for the record, FDR had charisma.

that's an interesting comment.

fans exist in a sphere far removed from the nitty gritty human version of stevie, especially since stevie came of age as a celebrity in a time when there was no TMZ, 24-hour news, or paparazzi. stevie was allowed the luxury of cultivating her public image on her own terms, and has managed to maintain an air of sophistication and wholesomeness despite spending almost a third of her life as a drug addict.


This always came up when Michael and I would turn TMZ on. Fleetwood Mac's drama would be nowhere near as captivating as it is now, had it been chronicled by the media at the time. And people definitely would not be as quick to romanticize Stevie's drug years if she'd been hounded by the paps at the time. You know we would have had breaking news updates of Stevie arriving at Betty Ford. :shocked:

[carrie721]

Hey, you suck! I was going to make a sig specific comment, but you changed it! Hopey-changey bish. :xoxo:

hey, that's how i roll. sarah palin is my heroin(e).

But for the record, FDR had charisma.

tgmdc.

This always came up when Michael and I would turn TMZ on. Fleetwood Mac's drama would be nowhere near as captivating as it is now, had it been chronicled by the media at the time. And people definitely would not be as quick to romanticize Stevie's drug years if she'd been hounded by the paps at the time. You know we would have had breaking news updates of Stevie arriving at Betty Ford. :shocked:

no, you're right. nobody thinks lindsay lohan's struggles with drugs are poetic. in fact, several people on here who idolize stevie have made some redick comments about LL any time the "lindsay wants to portray stevie" story comes up. and it was the same thing when LL covered EO17. it's funny to me. in many ways LL is the latter-day stevie, between the drug issues, the fall from grace, and the looooong list of "romantic" partners. the biggest difference is that stevie got to do all of that in relative privacy. oh, and lindsay actually did have the ****ty upbringing to go along with her out of control behavior.

[goldustsongbird]

no, you're right. nobody thinks lindsay lohan's struggles with drugs are poetic. in fact, several people on here who idolize stevie have made some redick comments about LL any time the "lindsay wants to portray stevie" story comes up. and it was the same thing when LL covered EO17. it's funny to me. in many ways LL is the latter-day stevie, between the drug issues, the fall from grace, and the looooong list of "romantic" partners. the biggest difference is that stevie got to do all of that in relative privacy. oh, and lindsay actually did have the ****ty upbringing to go along with her out of control behavior.

fwiw, I still wouldn't want her to portray Stevie. :mad: But not because I think Stevie is better, just that LL is too out of her mind these days to do anything properly. Ironic as it is coming from her, I agree with Stevie's assessment that she needs to clean the f*ck up before even thinking of playing her in a movie.

[carrie721]

fwiw, I still wouldn't want her to portray Stevie. :mad: But not because I think Stevie is better, just that LL is too out of her mind these days to do anything properly. Ironic as it is coming from her, I agree with Stevie's assessment that she needs to clean the f*ck up before even thinking of playing her in a movie.

from what i've heard, she's pretty much uninsurable at this point. it'll be a while before she gets any work.

[goldustsongbird]

from what i've heard, she's pretty much uninsurable at this point. it'll be a while before she gets any work.

Dang. Actually, the last time I watched Mean Girls, I could kinda-sorta-maaaaybe see a bit of Stevie in her. Too bad it isn't 2004 anymore.

[carrie721]

Dang. Actually, the last time I watched Mean Girls, I could kinda-sorta-maaaaybe see a bit of Stevie in her. Too bad it isn't 2004 anymore.

i had such a crush on her :laugh: seriously.

[goldustsongbird]

i had such a crush on her :laugh: seriously.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/318/lindsay20lohan61.jpg

Finding this weirded me out, actually, because she looks exactly like someone I know here. :laugh:

[carrie721]

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/318/lindsay20lohan61.jpg

Finding this weirded me out, actually, because she looks exactly like someone I know here. :laugh:

can i have her number.

[goldustsongbird]

can i have her number.

555-Easy.

(wtf is this ten characters bull****)

[carrie721]

555-Easy.

(wtf is this ten characters bull****)

omg too bad you can't make that blink. :laugh:

[goldustsongbird]

omg too bad you can't make that blink. :laugh:

<BLINK>555-EASY

[carrie721]

<BLINK>555-EASY

doesn't blink for me. :mad:

[goldustsongbird]

doesn't blink for me. :mad:

this is more than a little rude.

[carrie721]

this is more than a little rude.

i blame the gays.

[SortaSavageLike]

doesn't blink for me. :mad:

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/SortaSavageLike/Funny%20Stuff/crazystevie.gif

[goldustsongbird]

i blame the gays.

You would, Archie Bunker. :cool:

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/SortaSavageLike/Funny%20Stuff/crazystevie.gif

This synchs perfectly with Poker Face. Try it.

[danax6]

This upsets me.

[goldustsongbird]

This upsets me.

You know what upsets me? That it takes ****ery like this to drag you outta the woodwork. :xoxo:

[danax6]

You know what upsets me? That it takes ****ery like this to drag you outta the woodwork. :xoxo:You know, it's upsetting in so many ways. You leave for a while, you come back to check what's going on, you stumble upon a duet with Taylor Effin' Swift on youtube and you immediately want to leave again.

[goldustsongbird]

You know, it's upsetting in so many ways. You leave for a while, you come back to check what's going on, you stumble upon a duet with Taylor Effin' Swift on youtube and you immediately want to leave again.

Rough break, right?

Instead of blaming the gays, I think we need to start blaming everything on Squinty.

[carrie721]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/SortaSavageLike/Funny%20Stuff/crazystevie.gif

you should post more.

You would, Archie Bunker. :cool:

bahahaha.

This synchs perfectly with Poker Face. Try it.

omg.

This upsets me.

i miss you you belgian bitch.

i almost typed "belchin' bitch."

You know what upsets me? That it takes ****ery like this to drag you outta the woodwork. :xoxo:

word.

You know, it's upsetting in so many ways. You leave for a while, you come back to check what's going on, you stumble upon a duet with Taylor Effin' Swift on youtube and you immediately want to leave again.

leave the ledge or this mortal coil? either would be understandable.

Rough break, right?

Instead of blaming the gays, I think we need to start blaming everything on Squinty.

the name "taylor squint" makes me laugh every time.

BUT I STILL LISTEN TO HER.

[Lexi]

:) unlike the Ledgies, who purchase lookalike Stevie moon pendants themselves... :)

You can do that? Haha.

[vivfox]

the people she surrounds herself with are people whose responsibility it is to essentially keep her segregated from reality. if you've ever had a delusional person in your life, you know how difficult it is to sustain their fantasies and act as a buffer between them and the real world. you also know how quickly you can be tossed out of their favor if you disagree with them or offer them a view of reality or themselves that they dislike. this is the situation the people in stevie's real circle are in. and frankly, i don't blame some of them for getting sick of it.



Name the people she surrounds herself with who are sick of "it"?

[carrie721]

Name the people she surrounds herself with who are sick of "it"?

:rolleyes:

obviously i don't know the people in stevie's posse. my response was predicated on holidayroad's (and others') assertion that her fans are more loyal than the people in her real life.

but you have a beef with me, so rather than responding to the crux of my post (that you can't compare fans with her actual friends), you've taken one point out of context in an attempt to discredit me. good job!

[vivfox]

:rolleyes:

obviously i don't know the people in stevie's posse. my response was predicated on holidayroad's (and others') assertion that her fans are more loyal than the people in her real life.

but you have a beef with me, so rather than responding to the crux of my post (that you can't compare fans with her actual friends), you've taken one point out of context in an attempt to discredit me. good job!

I knew you'd try to weasel your way out of this. You stated that Stevie has people she surrounds herself with that are sick of her behaviors. I'm simply asking you to name the people you are talking about?

[jaycee]

that's an interesting comment.

fans exist in a sphere far removed from the nitty gritty human version of stevie, especially since stevie came of age as a celebrity in a time when there was no TMZ, 24-hour news, or paparazzi. stevie was allowed the luxury of cultivating her public image on her own terms, and has managed to maintain an air of sophistication and wholesomeness despite spending almost a third of her life as a drug addict.

i'm not interested in indicting stevie as a bad person, but to imply that fans have been more loyal than people who knew/know her in real life is a false and unfair analogy. as a fan, you get what stevie gives you and only what she gives you. and compared to other artists, it's really not much. this allows fans to create a fiction about stevie's real life in order to connect the dots in the stevie nicks scavenger game.

the people she surrounds herself with are people whose responsibility it is to essentially keep her segregated from reality. this is a woman who hasn't driven in over 30 years and probably couldn't tell you the price of a gallon of milk. this is a woman who thought her hair turned grey not because she was in her 40's but because she was going through klonopin withdrawal. this is a woman who gave prescription meds to her underling to see what kind of effect it had. if you've ever had a delusional person in your life, you know how difficult it is to sustain their fantasies and act as a buffer between them and the real world. you also know how quickly you can be tossed out of their favor if you disagree with them or offer them a view of reality or themselves that they dislike. this is the situation the people in stevie's real circle are in. and frankly, i don't blame some of them for getting sick of it.

I continue to be amazed at your capacity for consistently insightful observations! :nod: Then again, given that there are a large number of Ledgies, there ultimately has to be at least one person smart like you! :laugh:
Anyway, very well written! :)

[carrie721]

I knew you'd try to weasel your way out of this. You stated that Stevie has people she surrounds herself with that are sick of her behaviors. I'm simply asking you to name the people you are talking about?

weasel my way out of this? dude, please.

i've already said i don't know the people in her posse. what i do know is that based on things that she has said and done, she is completely removed from reality. in order to maintain that, she has to be surrounded by people who are willing to shield her from it. this is an exhausting task.

and so is talking to you, frankly. you've made it clear that you dislike me. i don't like you, either, but i no longer respond to your posts because you never say anything that interests me. your posts to me in this thread are clearly an attempt to incite me so you can once again play the victim and complain about how mean i am.

if you think the overall point of my original post is wrong, you haven't said so. you haven't challenged my underlying message which leads me to believe you are nitpicking in order to a) undermine my post without having to use any intellectual elbow grease and b) get me to snap at you.

for the record, you've accomplished neither.

[carrie721]

I continue to be amazed at your capacity for consistently insightful observations! :nod: Then again, given that there are a large number of Ledgies, there ultimately has to be at least one person smart like you! :laugh:
Anyway, very well written! :)

thanks. believe it or not, i used to be a dyed-in-the-wool chiffonhead. and i still listen to her, i just don't let her blind me with her magick~ anymore.

[vivfox]

weasel my way out of this? dude, please.

i've already said i don't know the people in her posse. what i do know is that based on things that she has said and done, she is completely removed from reality. in order to maintain that, she has to be surrounded by people who are willing to shield her from it. this is an exhausting task.

and so is talking to you, frankly. you've made it clear that you dislike me. i don't like you, either, but i no longer respond to your posts because you never say anything that interests me. your posts to me in this thread are clearly an attempt to incite me so you can once again play the victim and complain about how mean i am.

if you think the overall point of my original post is wrong, you haven't said so. you haven't challenged my underlying message which leads me to believe you are nitpicking in order to a) undermine my post without having to use any intellectual elbow grease and b) get me to snap at you.

for the record, you've accomplished neither.

The rest of your original post made perfect sense to me. I'm simply asking you to clarify what you stated as fact. Not because I have beef with you. Not because of any ulterior motive. If any other Ledgie claimed what you wrote I'd ask them the same thing.
In general you are a mean person. You've said so yourself in the chit chat forum.

As for having beef with you, whenever we go to McDonald's together, you always order the Big Mac and I always order the filet of fish.
So stop whining about troubles between us and just answer the original statement you made, that's all.

You said, and I quote you, "the people she surrounds herself with are people whose responsibility it is to essentially keep her segregated from reality. this is the situation the people in stevie's real circle are in. and frankly, i don't blame some of them for getting sick of it."

So again I ask you to name these people? And again I remind you that I agreed with the rest of what you stated.

[carrie721]

So again I ask you to name these people? And again I remind you that I agreed with the rest of what you stated.

for the third time, i can't name names. how could i?

that doesn't alter or compromise my point.

[sparky]

So again I ask you to name these people? And again I remind you that I agreed with the rest of what you stated.

I am not Carrie , but here you go, Viv:

Glen Parrish.

Point. Set. Match.

STFU.

[vivfox]

I am not Carrie , but here you go, Viv:

Glen Parrish.

Point. Set. Match.

STFU.

I highly doubt it.

[holidayroad]

I think holidayroad's comment was meant in a light-hearted joking manner, not as a serious demand. Hence beginning it with "LOL". :)

Thanks! And yes, I meant it as a joking comment, but what carrie721 said was fine. There are a lot of fans that think Stevie 'owes' them and that's exactly what I was trying to make light of. To be accurate though, I doubt that many of the newer artists she pairs up with (Taylor for one) really 'know' Stevie either.

[carrie721]

I am not Carrie , but here you go, Viv:

Glen Parrish.

Point. Set. Match.

STFU.

oh hell no.

this sh*t just got real up in here.

[LikeAWillow]

So again I ask you to name these people?

She's sixty and alone :shrug: Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Don Henley, Joe Walsh, Glen Parrish, Paul Fishkin, Rupert Hine, J.D. Souther, Jerry Brown, Jimmy Iovine, etc.

[LittleCharmer]

Good for Taylor Swift. Someone she greatly admires has recognised and enjoyed her music and has (or so it seems) given her a token to signify their friendship and support. Who wouldn't want that, and be chuffing well pleased about it?

[goldustsongbird]

Good for Taylor Swift. Someone she greatly admires has recognised and enjoyed her music and has (or so it seems) given her a token to signify their friendship and support. Who wouldn't want that, and be chuffing well pleased about it?

I doubt Stevie was a real influence.

[hippilil86]

that's an interesting comment.

fans exist in a sphere far removed from the nitty gritty human version of stevie, especially since stevie came of age as a celebrity in a time when there was no TMZ, 24-hour news, or paparazzi. stevie was allowed the luxury of cultivating her public image on her own terms, and has managed to maintain an air of sophistication and wholesomeness despite spending almost a third of her life as a drug addict.

i'm not interested in indicting stevie as a bad person, but to imply that fans have been more loyal than people who knew/know her in real life is a false and unfair analogy. as a fan, you get what stevie gives you and only what she gives you. and compared to other artists, it's really not much. this allows fans to create a fiction about stevie's real life in order to connect the dots in the stevie nicks scavenger game.

the people she surrounds herself with are people whose responsibility it is to essentially keep her segregated from reality. this is a woman who hasn't driven in over 30 years and probably couldn't tell you the price of a gallon of milk. this is a woman who thought her hair turned grey not because she was in her 40's but because she was going through klonopin withdrawal. this is a woman who gave prescription meds to her underling to see what kind of effect it had. if you've ever had a delusional person in your life, you know how difficult it is to sustain their fantasies and act as a buffer between them and the real world. you also know how quickly you can be tossed out of their favor if you disagree with them or offer them a view of reality or themselves that they dislike. this is the situation the people in stevie's real circle are in. and frankly, i don't blame some of them for getting sick of it.

I can't believe people really think of her as wholesome. You're exactly right, though, you know. She was a drug addict. She was a "homewrecker" , (probably more than one "home", actually) and slept with everyone with dark hair and a guitar. Her life at 60 probably isn't what she thought it would be, and the last few interviews she's given sound pretty damn bitter. Whether she ended it with Lindsey 30 years ago or 10 years ago, she can't let go. She's not particularly a moral compass, but I still love her for it. I mean, really, she's LIVED in the past 40 years. I'm not even the age she was when she joined Fleetwood Mac, which gives me hope that my best years are hopefully ahead of me. Stevie isn't based in reality, but I don't think she ever really was. Was singing with Taylor a good choice? I don't really know...I don't think it was well researched, because if her people had seen a Taylor Swift concert, they would know that Taylor can't carry a tune in a bucket. But, I mean, she sure can sell records. Anyway, this is a long and meaningless post, but I just wanted to say that I agree.

[goldustsongbird]

The part about her being 60 and alone surprises me. Not in a "never saw it coming" way, considering her past, more like... I don't know... It's a little sad. She was the big sex symbol with all of this fame and fortune, but what did it get her? :shrug:

[michelej1]

I doubt Stevie was a real influence.

Reminds me of Stevie saying that when everyone tells her that, she doesn't know if it's the truth or not.

After the concert, a visitor asks if she's aware of her influence on today's celebrities (Madonna, Sheryl Crow and Demi Moore have sung her praises). ''Well, it's hard to know if it's really true or if it's just someone saying it,'' Nicks says. ''If it is, I am proud of it. ''

[CelticGypsy]

The part about her being 60 and alone surprises me. Not in a "never saw it coming" way, considering her past, more like... I don't know... It's a little sad. She was the big sex symbol with all of this fame and fortune, but what did it get her? :shrug:

I think Stevie has the kind of life she always wanted. She could have had a family but she wanted a career a lot more. It was that important to her. She has fame, money, fans, lovers, etc. She can go anywhere she wants to in a moment's notice. She can record an album immediately if she wanted to. She has a neice, she has goddaughters and godsons and I am sure they love her very much. You don't need to be a mother and grandmother to be loved by children. Stevie has many friends and she's still friends with ex's. Sounds like a wonderful life!!! Stevie looks great and she is beautiful. If her life was pretty lousy, she would look awful. She doesn't. There is more to Stevie Nicks than what we all really know. She looks like a happy woman and is gorgeous in her 60's. Being a mother and grandmother is wonderful but having $$$$, a limo at a moment's notice and a chance to go to Hawaii or Europe anytime I want sounds pretty darn good:lol:

[LikeAWillow]

Being a mother and grandmother is wonderful but having $$$$, a limo at a moment's notice and a chance to go to Hawaii or Europe anytime I want sounds pretty darn good:lol:

I think this is really interesting because it seems to buy into the idea that Stevie throws around that being a mother/wife and being a rockstar are mutually exclusive. They're not. Plenty of women have managed to do both and enjoy having that balance in their life. Pat Benatar comes to mind right away as a woman in rock comparable to Stevie but one who is pretty famously married and has two children.

[ButterCookie]

I think this is really interesting because it seems to buy into the idea that Stevie throws around that being a mother/wife and being a rockstar are mutually exclusive. They're not. Plenty of women have managed to do both and enjoy having that balance in their life. Pat Benatar comes to mind right away as a woman in rock comparable to Stevie but one who is pretty famously married and has two children.

And Suzi Quatro

[vivfox]

I think this is really interesting because it seems to buy into the idea that Stevie throws around that being a mother/wife and being a rockstar are mutually exclusive. They're not. Plenty of women have managed to do both and enjoy having that balance in their life. Pat Benatar comes to mind right away as a woman in rock comparable to Stevie but one who is pretty famously married and has two children.

And Gloria Estefan.

[blondyy-x]

I think this is really interesting because it seems to buy into the idea that Stevie throws around that being a mother/wife and being a rockstar are mutually exclusive. They're not. Plenty of women have managed to do both and enjoy having that balance in their life. Pat Benatar comes to mind right away as a woman in rock comparable to Stevie but one who is pretty famously married and has two children.

And Nancy Wilson. Also Ann has two children but isn't married.

[carrie721]

chrissie hynde.

[ButterCookie]

chrissie hynde.

http://www.avatars-and-emoticons.com/msn-emoticons/rom15.gif

Patti Smith too :] *I'm shutting up again now*

[seekerj]

Lots of women rockers have been listed in this thread, but did any of them have a band career and a solo career along with raising the rugrats??

I'm not being sarcastic, I'm seriously asking!

[ButterCookie]

Patti Smith was working whilst raising her two kids.

[blondyy-x]

Ann adopted her daughter in '91, and Heart released an album in '93. She then adopted her son in '98, and Nancy had her twin boys in 2000, and Heart continued touring and brought out another album in '04. Ann & Nancy also had their side band throughout the 90's, and released an album in '97. :)
I don't know much about anyone else, so i'm no help there.

[michelej1]

Well, they aren't rockers, but all of the Dixie Chicks have kids and 2 of them (the sisters Emily and Martie) underwent fertility treatment (and both have twins as a result) to become mothers. They take the kids on the road with them. They called the kids "the seven peeps" when they were touring. Since then, there's been an 8th child born.

Michele

[seekerj]

Ann adopted her daughter in '91, and Heart released an album in '93. She then adopted her son in '98, and Nancy had her twin boys in 2000, and Heart continued touring and brought out another album in '04. Ann & Nancy also had their side band throughout the 90's, and released an album in '97. :)
I don't know much about anyone else, so i'm no help there.

What I meant was, are there any who raise kids but are in TWO bands, like Stevie is in both FM and her solo band?

Sorry I wasn't clear!

[blondyy-x]

What I meant was, are there any who raise kids but are in TWO bands, like Stevie is in both FM and her solo band?

Sorry I wasn't clear!

Oh nah sorry, it's me and my lack of reading skills ;)

[michelej1]

With the winter Olympics going on, I thought about this, it's from an article in the Ashland Daily Tidings from last summer:

http://www.dailytidings.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090718/LIFE/907180303

Tai Babilonia wears a gold half-moon charm around her neck, given to her by Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac. The only time it ever came off was at the 1980 Olympics in Lake Placid, New York; she will never take it off again.

That year, an injury to her skating partner, Randy Gardner, caused them to withdraw from the Olympic competition. The two, dubbed "America's sweethearts," by the press and fans, saw their dreams of Olympic gold disappear.

[michelej1]

What I meant was, are there any who raise kids but are in TWO bands, like Stevie is in both FM and her solo band?



No, I can't think of anyone (maybe Fergie will have kids some day:laugh:), but the way the scheduling was for FM after 1980, Stevie being in two bands wasn't any more strenuous or time consuming than if she'd just been in one.

Michele

[dnightshade]

that's an interesting comment.

fans exist in a sphere far removed from the nitty gritty human version of stevie, especially since stevie came of age as a celebrity in a time when there was no TMZ, 24-hour news, or paparazzi. stevie was allowed the luxury of cultivating her public image on her own terms, and has managed to maintain an air of sophistication and wholesomeness despite spending almost a third of her life as a drug addict.

i'm not interested in indicting stevie as a bad person, but to imply that fans have been more loyal than people who knew/know her in real life is a false and unfair analogy. as a fan, you get what stevie gives you and only what she gives you. and compared to other artists, it's really not much. this allows fans to create a fiction about stevie's real life in order to connect the dots in the stevie nicks scavenger game.

the people she surrounds herself with are people whose responsibility it is to essentially keep her segregated from reality. this is a woman who hasn't driven in over 30 years and probably couldn't tell you the price of a gallon of milk. this is a woman who thought her hair turned grey not because she was in her 40's but because she was going through klonopin withdrawal. this is a woman who gave prescription meds to her underling to see what kind of effect it had. if you've ever had a delusional person in your life, you know how difficult it is to sustain their fantasies and act as a buffer between them and the real world. you also know how quickly you can be tossed out of their favor if you disagree with them or offer them a view of reality or themselves that they dislike. this is the situation the people in stevie's real circle are in. and frankly, i don't blame some of them for getting sick of it.

This is incredibly well-stated!

[trackaghost]

Patti Smith was working whilst raising her two kids.

To be fair, Patti actually stopped working for many years when she had her two kids, she was in "semi-retirement" raising her children and only made one album in the 1980s. She only really made her comeback in 1996 after her husband, Fred, died.

[bellagypsy79]

I'm already getting tired of Taylor Swift. But, with the shelf life of modern day pop acts, she won't be around too much longer. :wavey:

I am already getting tired of everybody talking about the Stevie and Taylor situation. Let's move on from this already. BTW, she's not a pop act. She's a country singer. She has just reached both audiences (pop/country) just like Shania Twain did. I like Taylor. I think she has a lot to look forward to in the future. She's no Stevie that's for sure, but I think she's going to be singing for a while. To be honest with you, I am, myself getting a little Taylored out if you know what I mean. She needs to get back into the studio and make another record before it's too late or she will be nothing more than a has been. Hopefully when she does make another record, she doesn't cover any Stevie tunes. Her voice just doesn't cut it. She should just stick to what she does best, her own stuff.:nod:

[carrie721]

I am already getting tired of everybody talking about the Stevie and Taylor situation. Let's move on from this already. BTW, she's not a pop act. She's a country singer. She has just reached both audiences (pop/country) just like Shania Twain did. I like Taylor. I think she has a lot to look forward to in the future. She's no Stevie that's for sure, but I think she's going to be singing for a while. To be honest with you, I am, myself getting a little Taylored out if you know what I mean. She needs to get back into the studio and make another record before it's too late or she will be nothing more than a has been. Hopefully when she does make another record, she doesn't cover any Stevie tunes. Her voice just doesn't cut it. She should just stick to what she does best, her own stuff.:nod:

if you're tired of it, why dig up a discussion that hasn't really been going on in a week and a half? i realize sharon replied today, but she wasn't dredging up the taylor debate and she wasn't bitching that she's sick of the discussion. :laugh:

[bellagypsy79]

if you're tired of it, why dig up a discussion that hasn't really been going on in a week and a half? i realize sharon replied today, but she wasn't dredging up the taylor debate and she wasn't bitching that she's sick of the discussion. :laugh:

For your information, I just started reading this topic a little bit ago. I thought since everyone on here is talking about "past situations" why can't I join in? The topic of this thread was about a necklace that Taylor was wearing and in the same thread everyone's bitching and fighting over dumb **** that's not even about the necklace anymore. So it's ok for everyone else to, but I can't contribute my thoughts on something that just wanted to share for fun? I wasn't bitching about anything! Excuse me for interfering with this thread! I will leave now!

[carrie721]

For your information, I just started reading this topic a little bit ago. I thought since everyone on here is talking about "past situations" why can't I join in? The topic of this thread was about a necklace that Taylor was wearing and in the same thread everyone's bitching and fighting over dumb **** that's not even about the necklace anymore. So it's ok for everyone else to, but I can't contribute my thoughts on something that just wanted to share for fun? I wasn't bitching about anything! Excuse me for interfering with this thread! I will leave now!

LOL.

you said you were sick of people doing something they weren't even doing anymore. i thought it was funny. i didn't tell you to STFU. :lol:

[GODDESS6]

With the winter Olympics going on, I thought about this, it's from an article in the Ashland Daily Tidings from last summer:

http://www.dailytidings.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090718/LIFE/907180303

Tai Babilonia wears a gold half-moon charm around her neck, given to her by Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac. The only time it ever came off was at the 1980 Olympics in Lake Placid, New York; she will never take it off again.

That year, an injury to her skating partner, Randy Gardner, caused them to withdraw from the Olympic competition. The two, dubbed "America's sweethearts," by the press and fans, saw their dreams of Olympic gold disappear.

i wrote to tai once & asked her about her pendant from stevie~ she was so sweet & gracious in answering me~ she said that stevie had watched her & randy perform on tv, & stevie came down to the ice rink & gave her the neckalce~ she also told me how she only took it off once~

here's her site:
http://www.taibabilonia.com/home.html
she has the nickfix as one of her links & you can see her stevie necklace in some of the photos~

thanx for bringing it up again michele, i loved tai & randy & her connection w/ stevie was always so magical to me~

[Tango]

What I meant was, are there any who raise kids but are in TWO bands, like Stevie is in both FM and her solo band?



Does Gwen Stefani count?

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/droolicious/2008/08/gwen-stefani.jpg

[Dreamz19]

i wrote to tai once & asked her about her pendant from stevie~ she was so sweet & gracious in answering me~ she said that stevie had watched her & randy perform on tv, & stevie came down to the ice rink & gave her the neckalce~ she also told me how she only took it off once~

here's her site:
http://www.taibabilonia.com/home.html
she has the nickfix as one of her links & you can see her stevie necklace in some of the photos~

thanx for bringing it up again michele, i loved tai & randy & her connection w/ stevie was always so magical to me~

Thanks for posting. I never knew she had one too.

[skcin]

Colbie's got one too. Noticed it this past weekend on Next Food Network Star - you can see it in the still from this video clip:

http://www.colbiecaillat.com/news/cooking-for-colbie-on-next-food-network-star/

[petep9000]

I saw that, Humberto and I were watching and when Colbie Caillat was wearing the moon I explained the significance to him. It's pretty cool that other people are wearing them.

[PenguinHead]

more like "hacker of the tune"

:laugh: very good!