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vivfox
01-16-2010, 12:15 AM
These songs are mostly good but I've heard them all too much so I'm kinda tired of them.


Fleetwood Mac/Fleetwood Mac-I'll Listen to all of them

Rumours- Don't Stop, Go Your Own Way & Songbird

Tusk-Not That Funny & Never Make Me Cry & What Makes You Think You're The One

Fleetwood Mac/Live-One More Night & Not That Funny

Mirage- Oh Diane, Only Over You & Wish You Were Here

Tango In The Night-Everywhere, Welcome To The Room Sara, Ricky, Down Endless Street, You And I Part 2 (I can't locate my copy of TITN so I guessed if some of these songs are even on there)

Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits-Don't Stop,Go Your Own Way, Dreams, Big Love & Over My Head(I'll listen to many of these tracks on their original albums, but not on this hits compilation)

Behind The Mask-Save Me

Say You Will-Silver Girl, Goodbye Baby & Come

GoldDustBoy
01-16-2010, 12:28 AM
Fleetwood Mac - Sugar Daddy
Rumours - Second Hand News
Tusk - Not That Funny, "That's Enough for Me, I Know I'm Not Wrong
Mirage - Eyes Of The World
Tango - Everywhere, Welcome To The Room Sara, Family Man
Behind The Mask - When the Sun Goes Down, Stand On The Rock, Hard Feelings
Say You Will - Red Rover, Silver Girl, Goodbye Baby

louielouie2000
01-16-2010, 12:49 AM
Fleetwood Mac: Blue Letter
Rumours: Don't Stop
Tusk: What Makes You Think You're The One, Angel
Live: Not That Funny
Mirage: Oh Diane
Tango In The Night: You And I (Pt 2)
Behind The Mask: Stand On The Rock
The Dance: My Little Demon
Say You Will: What's The World Coming To

tilthefirefades
01-16-2010, 01:25 AM
Fleetwood Mac-Warm Ways
Rumours-Oh Daddy
Tusk-What Make You Think You're The One, Not That Funny, Never Make Me Cry
Live-Not That Funny, One More Night
Mirage-Only Over You, Oh Diane
Tango In The Night-When I See You Again
The Dance-My Little Demon
Say You Will-Come

chriskisn
01-16-2010, 02:41 AM
Fleetwood Mac: Warm Ways, Over My Head, Say You Love Me, Sugar Daddy
Rumours: Don't Stop, You Make Loving Fun, Oh Daddy
Tusk: Easier to say that I don't skip the Stevie Songs...
Live: Err...I don't skip Rhiannon. The rest of it, not worth the effort :sorry:
Mirage: The whole album is awful
Tango In The Night: Family Man, Welcome To the Room...Sara, You And I (Pt 2)
Behind The Mask: Actually listen to this one all the way through..
The Dance: Another piece of glitz. Yeah yeah so it was a reunion :shrug:
Say You Will: Say Goodbye, Goodbye Baby

Oh god I can't believe I'm still a fan of this lineup of the band. :distress:

vivfox
01-16-2010, 03:25 AM
Live: Err...I don't skip Rhiannon.


I forgot about this one. Of all the great Live Rhiannon's performed, this one sucks compared to what they could have given us.

Peestie
01-16-2010, 05:21 AM
I don't tend to skip any. I throw on an album, sit/lie down and just listen to it. It doesn't mean there aren't songs that are less good but I like to experience albums as full works. Plus it means I don't have to get up to press the 'skip' button and I can be just plain lazy at times. :D

trackaghost
01-16-2010, 08:29 AM
I don't tend to skip any. I throw on an album, sit/lie down and just listen to it. It doesn't mean there aren't songs that are less good but I like to experience albums as full works. Plus it means I don't have to get up to press the 'skip' button and I can be just plain lazy at times. :D

I'm the same, I prefer to listen to the thing as a whole. I think the sequencing and flow of all the songs together is part of the art. Plus, often songs that I didn't like to begin with grow on me and some even become favourites, so in the end I'm glad I stuck with them.

Sleepless-Child
01-16-2010, 09:04 AM
Fleetwood Mac : Warm Ways
Rumours : Well...Songbird ?
Tusk : That's Enough for me, Never make me cry, Sisters of the moon (sometimes). Don't know why people skip What makes you think you're the one ? !
Fleetwood Mac live : Don't have it.
Mirage :Don't have it.
Tango : Big Love (like this song, though), You and I (Part 2).
Behind the Mask : Don't have it.
The Dance : Temporary One.
Say you Will : Destiny Rules.

skuncles
01-16-2010, 09:56 AM
I'm too old school, back in the day when you played the actual LP it was a huge pain the ass to get up and lift the needle off the record to skip a song, so over time you learn to like or at least toterlate, even the worst song. So for me any album that was originally released on LP I will listen to the whole thing. For the albums of the CD era (which for Fleetwood Mac is only "The Dance" and "Say You Will") the only songs I might skip would be "Destiny Rules" from SYW, I can't stand the sound of snot in Stevie's throat on the first line of that!!

danielnicks
01-16-2010, 10:23 AM
Fleetwood Mac/Fleetwood Mac - Sugar Daddy

Rumours - I Don't Want To Know

Tusk - Save Me a Place

Fleetwood Mac/Live - Not That Funny

Mirage - Oh Diane

Tango In The Night - When I See You Again

Behind The Mask - I hate this album!

Say You Will - What's The World Coming To

GypsySorcerer
01-16-2010, 10:25 AM
Fleetwood Mac: I'm So Afraid (occasionally)

Rumours: Don't Stop

Tusk: NONE

Live: One More Night

Mirage: Only Over You; Empire State

Tango In The Night: Welcome to the Room...Sara

Greatest Hits: Don't Stop

Behind The Mask: Stand on the Rock

The Dance: NONE

Say You Will: Silver Girl and sometimes Illume

David
01-16-2010, 10:36 AM
Fleetwood Mac: Rhiannon, Landslide
Rumours: Dreams, Gold Dust Woman
Tusk: Storms, Beautiful Child, Sisters of the Moon, Sara
Live: Rhiannon, Dreams, Landslide, Fireflies
Mirage: Straight Back, Gypsy, That's Alright
Tango: Welcome to the Room, Seven Wonders
Mask: Freedom, Affairs of the Heart, Love Is Dangerous
The Dance: Dreams, Rhiannon, Landslide, Sweet Girl
Say You Will: Thrown Down, Illume, Come, Sweet Girl, Goodbye Baby

holidayroad
01-16-2010, 11:23 AM
I usually won't skip any, but I have skipped these on occasion:

Fleetwood Mac: World Turning (after the vocal)
Rumours: I Don't Want To Know
Tusk: Save Me a Place
Live:Go Your Own Way
Mirage: none
Tango: When I See You Again (until the verse after the 'whatsa matters')
Behind the Mask: When the Sun Goes Down, Stand On the Rock, The Second Time
The Dance: Go Your Own Way
Say You Will: Running Through the Garden

Peestie
01-16-2010, 12:05 PM
Fleetwood Mac: Rhiannon, Landslide
Rumours: Dreams, Gold Dust Woman
Tusk: Storms, Beautiful Child, Sisters of the Moon, Sara
Live: Rhiannon, Dreams, Landslide, Fireflies
Mirage: Straight Back, Gypsy, That's Alright
Tango: Welcome to the Room, Seven Wonders
Mask: Freedom, Affairs of the Heart, Love Is Dangerous
The Dance: Dreams, Rhiannon, Landslide, Sweet Girl
Say You Will: Thrown Down, Illume, Come, Sweet Girl, Goodbye Baby

So you'd basically remove most of Stevie's songs from their back catalogue?

FMlex
01-16-2010, 12:17 PM
Fleetwood Mac- Sugar Daddy

Rumours- Don't Stop

Tusk- I love this album in its entirety.

Fleetwood Mac Live- Not That Funny (it's way too long live), One More Night

Mirage- Empire State, Oh Diane, Wish You Were Here

Tango In The Night- Big Love (I don't like the album version!), Caroline, Mystified, Family Man

Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits- I rarely listen to this one, but when I do... it's all the way through.

Behind The Mask- Eh. Gotta be in the right mood to listen to this album.

Say You Will- Murrow, Illume, Miranda, Red Rover, Come, Silver Girl, Everybody Finds Out

jcalzaretta
01-16-2010, 12:49 PM
Fleetwood Mac - NONE
Rumours - NONE
Tusk - Not that funny.
Live - Not that funny
Mirage - Only over you
Tango in the Night - rarely listen but would skip Family Man, When I See You Again
Behind the mask - rarely listen to this
The Dance - My Little Demon
Say You Will - Murrow, Come, Silver Girl
Greatest Hits - NONE

vivfox
01-16-2010, 12:53 PM
Everybody Finds Out

You might be the only one. I haven't found another fan annoyed by this track. I always thought this would have been a great hit single.

michelej1
01-16-2010, 12:56 PM
I try not to skip songs. Skipping not only prevents me from appreciatiing a song I'd previously overlooked (which was the case with most of TISL), but it also tends to make me burn out on the songs I initially liked, if I spend too much time listening to them to the exclusion of others. So, I avoid doing it.

But once or twice, I have skipped Silver Girl and Running Through the Garden, against my better judgment.

Michele

tilthefirefades
01-16-2010, 01:43 PM
You might be the only one. I haven't found another fan annoyed by this track. I always thought this would have been a great hit single.

I agree! It is such a great collaboration with Stevie and Lindsey.

fringed n fab
01-16-2010, 02:20 PM
Fleetwood Mac: Blue Letter
Rumours: Don't Stop
Tusk: What Makes You Think You're The One, Angel
Live: Not That Funny
Mirage: Oh Diane
Tango In The Night: You And I (Pt 2)
Behind The Mask: Stand On The Rock
The Dance: My Little Demon
Say You Will: What's The World Coming To
I agree with those Rumours and Tusk skip overs. I love My Little Demon though! ;) To me that song's more funny than anything. Shortly after the Dance came out we held a bonfire and they played that song while everyone danced around the fire in a circle like little Indians. I laugh to this day.

Street_Dreamer
01-16-2010, 03:17 PM
Fleetwood Mac - Landslide, Sugar Daddy
Rumours - Dreams, Gold Dust Woman, Silver Springs
Tusk - Sara, Honey Hi
Mirage - None
Tango In The Night - Welcome To The Room... Sara, When I See You Again, You And I Part II
Behind The Mask - Affairs Of The Heart, The Second Time
Time - Hollywood (Some Other Kind Of Town), Blow By Blow
Say You Will - Illume, Miranda, Red Rover, Say You Will, Running Through The Garden, Goodbye Baby

Matt

petep9000
01-16-2010, 03:22 PM
"Destiny Rules" from SYW, I can't stand the sound of snot in Stevie's throat on the first line of that!!

I just can't believe that no one heard this in the playback and felt the need to either re-record it or sweeten it in some way. You can totally hear some kind of a gloppy noise coming out of her nasal passages. I guess it's the hole she burnt into her septum.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc297/jcastr01/th_snott.jpg (http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc297/jcastr01/snott.jpg)

David
01-16-2010, 03:36 PM
I just can't believe that no one heard this in the playback and felt the need to either re-record it or sweeten it in some way. You can totally hear some kind of a gloppy noise coming out of her nasal passages.I concluded years ago that the decision to keep it was deliberate. The production decision to retain it is making some sort of artistic statement -- I know not what.

There are other instances on that album where the Nicks vocal is unpleasantly nasal & EQ'd toward the treble & mid ranges with virtually no bass. Keeping these grotesque vocals was surely intentional.

It's as if our faces were being rubbed in the gritty realism of a deteriorating voice box.

GoldDustBoy
01-16-2010, 03:52 PM
I concluded years ago that the decision to keep it was deliberate. The production decision to retain it is making some sort of artistic statement -- I know not what.

There are other instances on that album where the Nicks vocal is unpleasantly nasal & EQ'd toward the treble & mid ranges with virtually no bass. Keeping these grotesque vocals was surely intentional.

It's as if our faces were being rubbed in the gritty realism of a deteriorating voice box.

Stevie has the worst case of vocal fold nodules. That is the main reason she sounds the way she does. I guess she is too scared to have them removed. The hole in her nose doesn't help either. Many singers suffer from nodules, but some are effected more than others. Look at Marianne Faithfull for example.

ragrsrocalot
01-16-2010, 04:44 PM
I prefer to just let the album play straight through. Granted, some songs are not favorites, but when I listen to the album I like to experience the songs as a whole group, rather then to skip one. I get a better feel for the concept of the record that way.

Sleepless-Child
01-16-2010, 07:05 PM
Fleetwood Mac: Rhiannon, Landslide
Rumours: Dreams, Gold Dust Woman
Tusk: Storms, Beautiful Child, Sisters of the Moon, Sara
Live: Rhiannon, Dreams, Landslide, Fireflies
Mirage: Straight Back, Gypsy, That's Alright
Tango: Welcome to the Room, Seven Wonders
Mask: Freedom, Affairs of the Heart, Love Is Dangerous
The Dance: Dreams, Rhiannon, Landslide, Sweet Girl
Say You Will: Thrown Down, Illume, Come, Sweet Girl, Goodbye Baby


This broke my heart. :shrug:

aleuzzi
01-16-2010, 07:11 PM
Fleetwood Mac - I don't skip any

Rumours - I don't skip any

Tusk - I like every song but rarely listen to the entire thing through.

Fleetwood Mac Live - One More Night, Landslide, Never Going Back Again

Mirage- Oh Diane, Empire State, Straight Back

Tango In The Night - Welcome To The Room Sara, When I See You Again, Tango in the Night

Behind The Mask - I skip all of them except Love is Dangerous, Affairs of the Heart, Save Me and the title song

Time - All the Dave Mason songs, All Over Again

The Dance - I don't skip any

Say You Will - Silver Girl, Goodbye Baby, Come

nailatixela
01-16-2010, 08:17 PM
I'm surprised people skip so many songs. The only songs I "skip" (they are not even on my playlist) are all of Bekka and Billy's time songs (I only like Christine's songs and Daves) and I only listen to a select few songs from the Live album, mostly the one of a kind ones (like Fireflies) because I just listen to a Tusk tour boot in place of that album.

So besides Live and Time, I listen to all the other mac albums all the way through.

goldustsongbird
01-16-2010, 11:16 PM
Tango: When I See You Again (until the verse after the 'whatsa matters')


When I See You Again is exactly the song where I reach over and crank up the volume. I want people to ask me when Elmer Fudd joined Fleetwood Mac.

Fleetwood Mac: I'm So Afraid
Rumours: um, all of it? Except for The Chain, I Don't Want To Know, Silver Springs and Gold Dust Woman.
Tusk: Over and Over, Never Forget
Live: Rhiannon, One More Night, blah blah. I don't even remember :laugh:
Mirage: everything except for Gypsy, That's Alright Love In Store, and Book of Love
Tango: Caroline
Mask: Everything but Christine's songs
The Dance: quoth Patti Smith: I don't need that ****in' ****
Say You Will: RUNNING THROUGH THE GARDEN OH MY GOD. And I make sure to turn off SYW before the kids. Smile At You, Silver Girl.

goldustsongbird
01-16-2010, 11:18 PM
This broke my heart. :shrug:

It's David. :lol:

David
01-17-2010, 12:44 AM
It's David. :lol:I was just trolling.

What I meant to say: I skip the Overture when I listen to Fidelio.

Gypsycat999
01-17-2010, 02:29 PM
I don't skip either. Mostly because I'm too lazy but I also really like to listen to the whole album like some others said. Just sometimes I wish to skip these:

Fleetwood Mac: Crystal (but I would listen to the end if possible)
Rumours: none
Tusk: Think about me, Never make me cry
Live: have never heard it
Mirage: none
Tango: Family Man
Behind the Mask: Have never heard it
Time: neither
The Dance: none
Say you will: Come, Smile at you, Everybody finds out, Destiny rules, Goodbye Baby (in fact I never listen to the whole album)

TrueFaith77
01-17-2010, 03:01 PM
i never skip ALL the time.

white album: none, i think, though I wonder if sometimes i've skipped world turning...
rumours: none (unless you count the crime of including silver springs on the cd between songbird and the chain)
tusk: none ... ever
mirage: none
titn: none
mask: that one about the rock
time: hmmm... depends on my mood but been known to skip... blow by blow, winds of change, i wonder why to get to the good stuff
say you will: lately i HAVE been skipping come, and I used to ALWAYS skip smile at you and silver girl, but now i NEVER do.

Regina
01-17-2010, 04:27 PM
Some things I can stand live but the recorded originals are not my cup of tea. Having issued that disclaimer....


Fleetwood Mac/Fleetwood Mac-Sugar Daddy/So Afraid

Rumours- Oh Daddy (and probably all of it. Sick of Rumours)


Tusk-Not That Funny/ Honey Hi

Fleetwood Mac/Live-Don't Stop & Not That Funny

Mirage- Empire State, Only Over You & Wish You Were Here

Tango In The Night Mystified (it's depressing to me. Have no idea why)

Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits-I think I dislike all of them right this second.

Behind The Mask-I don't actually remember some of them so I'm going to skip it rather than listen. I will say, I actually did like some of Billy's stuff on here.


Say You Will-Running Through the Garden (blech) and Come

PutTheBlameOnMe
01-17-2010, 06:00 PM
I don't tend to skip songs, I usually put a CD on in the background and just let it play.
Although (as they aren't in my playlist) I don't listen to Rick or Billy's songs from BTM. And I also favour Christine's songs on Time.

I used to skip quite alot on Tusk and Say You Will, but I've made myself listen to them and grew to like the songs that I used to skip.

Regina
01-17-2010, 08:03 PM
The quote you just used in the post above this was NOT MY QUOTE OF SONGS.

So send me off to the gallows, already. Geez.

I'll fix it. Give me a minute.

Artemis
01-17-2010, 08:24 PM
Lets see...songs I'd skip if I were listening to the album. Since it's different if I count itunes and shuffle.

Fleetwood Mac - Warm Ways, Over My Head, Sugar Daddy, I'm So Afraid.

Rumours - Don't Stop. Blech. Awful song.

Tusk - All apart from the Stevie songs, Think About Me, Tusk and Not That Funny.

Live - All. Apart from Fireflies, Rhiannon, Say You Love Me, Don't Let Me Down Again, Sara and The Farmers Daughter.

Mirage - Only Over You, Oh Diane, Wish You Were Here.

Tango - Caroline, Tango In The Night, Mystified, Welcome To The Room...Sara, When I See You Again.

Behind The Mask - All apart from. Save Me, Skies the Limit, When The Sun Goes Down, Affairs of the Heart, Love is Dangerous and Stand On The Rock.

Time - All. I don't like it at all. I've got Itunes programmed to skip those songs in shuffle.

The Dance - I'm So Afraid, Big Love, Sweet Girl, Don't Stop.

Say You Will - Murrow, Come, Smile At You (Can't compare to the demos, at all, in my opinion), Silver Girl (Worst. Song. Ever) Say Goodbye, Goodbye Baby.

I didn't realise how much I would skip before I listed them all :shocked: Although, I do like most of the songs I'd skip, I'm just not the one to listen to an album in its entirety unless I'm in a certain mood. I like to skip ahead to the good stuff. :lol:

Almost Simon
01-18-2010, 06:01 AM
Fleetwood Mac: Listen to all
Rumours: Listen to all
Tusk: I skip all except Sara and Tusk. I’m not a fan of this album.
Live: Don’t own it
Mirage: Don’t own it
Tango In The Night: Family Man, Welcome To the Room...Sara, You And I (Pt 2)
Behind The Mask: Don’t own it
The Dance: Don’t own it
Say You Will: Don’t own it

chriskisn
01-18-2010, 07:04 AM
Mirage: Don’t own it

You aren't missing much

Meowi
01-18-2010, 07:14 AM
I skip alot,
Mostly I'll have about five FM, Kate Bush, SN and a few randoms as my monthly favorites. This changes when I'm sick of listening to the same songs ;)

vivfox
01-18-2010, 11:10 AM
Fleetwood Mac: Listen to all
Rumours: Listen to all
Tusk: I skip all except Sara and Tusk. I’m not a fan of this album.
Live: Don’t own it
Mirage: Don’t own it
Tango In The Night: Family Man, Welcome To the Room...Sara, You And I (Pt 2)
Behind The Mask: Don’t own it
The Dance: Don’t own it
Say You Will: Don’t own it

You're the type of fan FM and Stevie cater to in their concerts. The type that only know their first two albums.:D

Richard B
01-18-2010, 11:39 AM
I generally never skip songs, but I have occasionally and it goes like this:

Fleetwood Mac - None
Rumours - Don't Stop
Tusk - None
Live - None
Mirage - Empire State
Tango In The Night - Caroline
Behind The Mask - None
Time - Mason songs
The Dance - Big Love
Say You Will - Come, Silver Girl

petep9000
01-18-2010, 04:14 PM
Fleetwood Mac- Warm Ways
Rumours- Don't Stop, Oh Daddy, Gold Dust Woman
Tusk- That's Enough For Me, Sara, Not That Funny, Save Me a Place
Mirage- Empire State, Oh Diane, Eyes of The World
Tango- None
Behind The Mask- Stand on The Rock, Hard Feelings, The Second Time
Say You Will- Miranda, Say You Will, Come, Peacekeeper, Goodbye Baby, Smile At You

Villavic
01-18-2010, 05:02 PM
Fleetwood Mac/Fleetwood Mac Crystal
Rumours sometimes Oh Daddy
Tusk The Ledge, Save me a Place, That's all for everone, Honey Hi, Beautiful Child
Fleetwood Mac/Live Fireflies
Mirage Only over you,
Tango In The Night Caroline
Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits No questions asked
Behind The Mask Save Me
Say You Will 40 to 50% of the songs

Spikey
01-19-2010, 10:18 AM
I'm amazed at how many people skip final tracks on albums. For one, I don't know how you CAN skip the final track on an album, I guess you just quit listening or move to another album?

I think FM were excellent at opening and closing albums, and would never skip any of those tracks. To the person who would skip Over and Over and Never Forget, you need to listen to the album over, including those two. Never Forget is probably my favourite way an album ends besides maybe a couple Pink Floyd albums.


As for not skipping, that doesn't mean I listen with orgasmic pleasure to some of the Mirage and Tango tracks for example, but I ain't skipping them, it makes you enjoy the rest more. And FM were always good at structuring their albums.


Never listened to BTM or Time. May eventually, but I love LB. Going to listen to SYW for the first time soon.
The only album I intentionally skip is the 1980 Live album, it's uninteresting to me, I like a lot of the live boots instead (Tusk Tour Rehearsals FTW!!).

I may skip tracks if I want to go to sleep hearing one particular track, but that's about it.


- Spike

chiliD
01-19-2010, 11:25 AM
Dog & Dustbin: none
English Rose: none
Then Play On: When You Say
Kiln House: none
Future Games: none
Bare Trees: Thoughts On A Grey Day
Penguin: none
Mystery To Me: none
Heroes Are Hard To Find: none
Fleetwood Mac: none
Rumours: don't even listen to it anymore
Tusk: The Ledge, Not That Funny, Walk A Thin Line*, Never Make Me Cry, Storms*.
Live: don't really listen to it anymore, either
Mirage: none (although SOMETIMES I'll skip "Straight Back" & "That's Alright")
Tango In The Night: Welcome To The Room...Sara
Behind The Mask: none
Time: none
The Dance: don't really listen to it, although on my iPod, I've tried to stitch together the songs in the order they were played by adding the songs left off the CD and put the CD in "actual" running order of the DVD. The only song I'm missing to make the playlist complete is "Gold Dust Woman".
Say You Will: Running Through The Garden, and sometimes "Silver Girl" (actually I redid my SYW playlist subbing "Not Make Believe" & Lindsey's Dylan cover for those two)

*= I have a playlist of Tusk with only my fave songs...sometimes I'll swap these two for "Save Me A Place" & "Sara"

Peestie
01-19-2010, 11:46 AM
Then Play On: When You Say


I still don't understand how one of the very best FM albums with some of their best songs (especially if you include the associated singles like Man of the World and Manilish) could include this song. How did it slip through the net and get on there? :shrug:

chiliD
01-19-2010, 01:10 PM
I still don't understand how one of the very best FM albums with some of their best songs (especially if you include the associated singles like Man of the World and Manilish) could include this song. How did it slip through the net and get on there? :shrug:

Probably because "Manalishi" came out AFTER it was released and "Man Of The World" was sold to a different record label before TPO was finished.

trackaghost
01-19-2010, 01:18 PM
I could be wrong but I don't think Peestie was saying those singles should have replaced When You Say, just that, along with the rest of the material on the album (aside from When You Say), they are proof they were producing their best ever material around that time, that's why that song is such an oddity.

Peestie
01-19-2010, 04:19 PM
I could be wrong but I don't think Peestie was saying those singles should have replaced When You Say, just that, along with the rest of the material on the album (aside from When You Say), they are proof they were producing their best ever material around that time, that's why that song is such an oddity.

Exactly.

Everything else then was so many times better than When You Say that it just seems like a strange dip in quality. But I guess someone must have liked it enough to get it on there.

chiliD
01-19-2010, 04:51 PM
Exactly.

Everything else then was so many times better than When You Say that it just seems like a strange dip in quality. But I guess someone must have liked it enough to get it on there.


Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Well, Christine obviously liked it enough to cover it. Another head-scratcher.

PenguinHead
01-19-2010, 08:52 PM
I don't skip any songs on any albums. I like listening to an entire body of work, even though there may be some songs I like better than others; I take the good and not so good.

I'm not one to cherry pick, which is something I that I find distressing with new technologies like ITunes. Previewing a song for a minute and determining whether you like it or not actually cuts out alot of material that may otherwise grow on you overtime, and may actually become some of your favorite songs.

Like wine, songs age well if you stick with them. Even the most questionable or quirky songs of Fleetwood Mac hold some value, if only just for their distinction!
I'm not a skipper; I don't jump tracks.:blob1:

holidayroad
01-20-2010, 09:44 AM
I still don't understand how one of the very best FM albums with some of their best songs (especially if you include the associated singles like Man of the World and Manilish) could include this song. How did it slip through the net and get on there? :shrug:

Actually, on my LP of Then Play On, 'When You Say' is not included.

jaycee
01-21-2010, 10:07 AM
You aren't missing much

Well, I certainly think Mirage is worth owning, even if not all the songs are great, and the sound quality leaves you wanting an immediate remaster... anyway, "Straight Back" alone is probably worth the $10 spent on the album (well, it was on special at $10)! Personally, it's just Lindsey's songs that drag the album down (except for me, as I'm fond of them all, particularly "Empire State").
As for track skipping... I don't think I've ever skipped any, except for the time recently when I heard half of Mirage (coincidentally) before my portable CD player batteries ran out, and I returned to the second half later on.
Actually, I've just remembered a long lost memory - I used to skip "Monday Morning" all the time when I bought TVBOFM, my first FM album. It was so different to what I was expecting (songs like "Seven Wonders" and "Everywhere") that it took me months before I tentatively listened to it again. I learned to like it, to the point where I thought it would be the perfect concert opener, which it was! :nod:

PutTheBlameOnMe
01-21-2010, 11:17 AM
Well, I certainly think Mirage is worth owning, even if not all the songs are great, and the sound quality leaves you wanting an immediate remaster... anyway, "Straight Back" alone is probably worth the $10 spent on the album (well, it was on special at $10)! Personally, it's just Lindsey's songs that drag the album down (except for me, as I'm fond of them all, particularly "Empire State").



I have to agree. I do actually like Mirage.
I'm also not ashamed to admit that I also like "Oh Diane" :nod:

jbrownsjr
01-21-2010, 02:14 PM
Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Well, Christine obviously liked it enough to cover it. Another head-scratcher.

She loved the "la la's" at the end..

holidayroad
01-21-2010, 02:54 PM
I have to agree. I do actually like Mirage.
I'm also not ashamed to admit that I also like "Oh Diane" :nod:

I think Mirage is one of their best albums. (yes, I really mean that!) I also love 'Oh Diane'. It's pretty difficult to not love a song where Lindsey asks 'Will you stand by me, always?' :laugh:

aleuzzi
01-21-2010, 03:19 PM
Actually, on my LP of Then Play On, 'When You Say' is not included.

You have the American release of TPO, which swapped out a few Kirwan tunes for Oh Well (1 and 2). But the cd restores all the original material.

EnchantedKiwi
01-21-2010, 05:13 PM
Fleetwood Mac: Warms ways, Sugar daddy
Rumours: Every song is top notch.
Tusk: Save me a place
Live: I like them all
Mirage: Love In Store, Oh Diane
TITN: You and I Part II
Behind The Mask: I don't really like the album altogether
The Dance: As good as Rumours
Say You Will: Come

Fiver
01-21-2010, 09:26 PM
Lessee.. of the FM albums I actually own (Amazon sent me a completely cracked copy of Say You Will and I'm still waiting on the replacement.) I rarely skip anything on an album but there're a few exceptions depending on my mood.

White Album: Er.. I usually listen to the whole thing straight thru, but I will occasionally skip I'm So Afraid... Hey, I love it live!

Rumours: none

Tusk: none

Mirage: none

TITN: Welcome to the Room... Sara

The Dance: Gee.. I don't really listen to this much.. I start it up sometimes only to realize rather just watch it again. I don't skip any, then, I guess.

jaycee
01-23-2010, 09:27 PM
I think Mirage is one of their best albums. (yes, I really mean that!) I also love 'Oh Diane'. It's pretty difficult to not love a song where Lindsey asks 'Will you stand by me, always?' :laugh:

I personally think Stevie's and Christine's songs for Mirage are all excellent (including "Only Over You"). And while I enjoy all of Lindsey's songs for the album, it wasn't his best material. But when you consider how many different directions he takes with his music, I'm hardly surprised that a little second rate material popped up, if only once. :laugh: Although I feel the same about his solo album Law And Order. But Go Insane was a fantastic implementation of a completely different musical style, just like Tango In The Night and Out Of The Cradle. :nod: And that is indisputable fact! :lol:

jaycee
01-23-2010, 09:36 PM
Lessee.. of the FM albums I actually own (Amazon sent me a completely cracked copy of Say You Will and I'm still waiting on the replacement.) I rarely skip anything on an album but there're a few exceptions depending on my mood.

White Album: Er.. I usually listen to the whole thing straight thru, but I will occasionally skip I'm So Afraid... Hey, I love it live!

Rumours: none

Tusk: none

Mirage: none

TITN: Welcome to the Room... Sara

The Dance: Gee.. I don't really listen to this much.. I start it up sometimes only to realize rather just watch it again. I don't skip any, then, I guess.

The live version of "I'm So Afraid" is indeed awesome, but I like the way Lindsey sounds genuinely scared on the album. I don't think that same fear is present in the live performences. :shrug: That said, most of the time the album versions and live performences of FM's songs sound very different, which is fantastic, because I find most bands' live performances pale in comparison to the album versions, unless you're at a concert. (Thus why The Dance is the only live album I own, and probably ever will! :laugh:)
And how do you skip "WTTR...S"?! Shameful! :lol: In all seriousness, I personally think the only thing slightly wrong with it is Lindsey's occasional vocals...

Fiver
01-23-2010, 09:50 PM
I dunno, I just can't get into WTTR...S

The whole track just sounds wonked out to me. It gives me the same vibe as when say.. you're already listening to a song and a different song is playing at the same time.. does that make sense? Like, you're watching/listening to a youtube vid and a popup add with music comes on.. It just irks me, musically... so much so that the only words I can remember are "Ooh, downstairs and the big 'ol house is mine!" Hmm, that's probably not even right. :laugh:

Just trying to explain what listening to that song is like for me is driving me crazy! :sorry:

You're absolutely right about FM's live versions of their songs.. they're pretty much a new experience. I like it that way.

Dreamz19
01-24-2010, 01:42 AM
I'll go by studio albums.

Fleetwood Mac - Nothing. Used to skip Landslide (hearing the Dixie Chicks version all the freakin time made me annoyed with the song for some time) and Sugar Daddy.

Rumours - Nothing. Used to skip Songbird.

Tusk - That's Enough for Me

Mirage - Love in Store, Oh Diane, Book of Love, Wish You Were Here

Tango - Seven Wonders (sometimes), You And I, Part II (can't believe they choose this over Part I), Welcome to the Room Sara (sometimes)

Behind The Mask - Least favorite Mac album. The question for this one is what don't I skip over..that would be Love is Dangerous, Behind the Mask, In the Back of My Mind, Affairs of the Heart, Hard Feelings, Freedom.

Time- These Strange Times, Nothing Without You, I Do

Say You Will - Red Rover, What's the World Coming To (sometimes), Say You Will (sometimes)

seekerj
01-28-2010, 10:32 AM
Fleetwood Mac-Warm Ways
Rumours- never skip any songs
Tusk-Not That Funny,
Live-Not That Funny
Mirage- Oh Diane, Empire Sate, Can't Go Back
Tango In The Night- Everywhere, Seven Wonders, Caroline, Family Man, You And I Part 2
The Dance- never ever listen to anything on this (not since the day it was released in 1997); the music is too diluted
Say You Will-Everybody Finds Out, Thrown Down, What's The World Coming To

seekerj
01-28-2010, 12:45 PM
The live version of "I'm So Afraid" is indeed awesome, but I like the way Lindsey sounds genuinely scared on the album. I don't think that same fear is present in the live performences. :shrug: That said, most of the time the album versions and live performences of FM's songs sound very different, which is fantastic, because I find most bands' live performances pale in comparison to the album versions, unless you're at a concert. (Thus why The Dance is the only live album I own, and probably ever will! :laugh:)
And how do you skip "WTTR...S"?! Shameful! :lol: In all seriousness, I personally think the only thing slightly wrong with it is Lindsey's occasional vocals...


lol... I second that!

Spikey
01-29-2010, 12:06 AM
I think the thing about WTTRS is that for a song on Tango, an excellent but somewhat contrived album (see: CM's songs), Stevie's few songs sound pretty natural and 'real'. WTTRS is so obviously that chapter of her life, in rehab, it sounds slightly paranoid and confused, with some acceptance.

The music is good and Stevie's singing is like her 80's solo stuff, 100% fine.

Kind of song I would have liked a video clip for. But Stevie didn't really have any really big Mac hits after Gypsy.




The thing about FM is they created albums, made between the people, not a bunch of singles thrown together, trimmed down. Like The Who, Cheap Trick, etc, you gotta listen to the complete thing and take the good with the bad. Thankfully FM didn't have many duds in the Rumours-era line up. Pretty amazing really considering how nuts and out of it they all were. They really did miss Ken Caillat on Mirage though..

- Spike

Dreamz19
01-29-2010, 04:26 AM
While I think TITN contained some of Stevie's weakest material on an FM record, I did like WTTRM and WISYA. In fact I liked both songs more than SW.

Spikey
01-29-2010, 10:54 AM
By the way Courtney, I love all 3 pics you have of the FM women.. I think they're all my favourites now!!

- Spike

iamnotafraid
01-30-2010, 02:56 AM
I seem to skip Behind The Mask CD all the time.

StreetAngel95
01-30-2010, 08:52 PM
Fleetwood Mac: Warm Ways
Rumours: Oh Daddy (sometimes)
Tusk: i listen ENTIRELYYYY
Live: Fireflies
Mirage: Wish You Were Here
Tango: You and I, Part II
Mask: dont have this one yet......:(
The Dance: You Make Loving Fun
Say You Will: Murrow Turning Over in His Grave, Silver Girl

Dreamz19
01-31-2010, 03:59 AM
By the way Courtney, I love all 3 pics you have of the FM women.. I think they're all my favourites now!!

- Spike

Hi Spike and thanks for the comments. :) I've had this siggy for a long time, but its hard to do away with it. Can't help but honor the few women of FM.

Dreamz19
01-31-2010, 04:00 AM
I seem to skip Behind The Mask CD all the time.

lol I should have said this too. I rarely listen to BTM, but I just listed what I do listen to if I do.

TerraRhiannon
11-21-2010, 11:45 PM
The ones I skip:

Rumours: Like hell you'll find me skipping a song from this album..
Tango in the Night: When I See You Again, You & I Part II, family Man
The Dance: Big Love, I'm So Afraid. Have to be in the right mood for those two.
Greatest Hits: Tusk ..I like the live version much better :shrug:
The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac: Skies the Limit.

& that's all I have for Macadoodle records :p

EnchantedKiwi
11-22-2010, 01:12 AM
The ones I skip:

Rumours: Like hell you'll find me skipping a song from this album..
Tango in the Night: When I See You Again, You & I Part II, family Man
The Dance: Big Love, I'm So Afraid. Have to be in the right mood for those two.
Greatest Hits: Tusk ..I like the live version much better :shrug:
The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac: Skies the Limit.

& that's all I have for Macadoodle records :p

You haven't heard Tusk, Mirage or The White Album??

iamnotafraid
11-22-2010, 05:34 AM
Fleetwood Mac: Rhiannon, Landslide
Rumours: Dreams, Gold Dust Woman
Tusk: Storms, Beautiful Child, Sisters of the Moon, Sara
Live: Rhiannon, Dreams, Landslide, Fireflies
Mirage: Straight Back, Gypsy, That's Alright
Tango: Welcome to the Room, Seven Wonders
Mask: Freedom, Affairs of the Heart, Love Is Dangerous
The Dance: Dreams, Rhiannon, Landslide, Sweet Girl
Say You Will: Thrown Down, Illume, Come, Sweet Girl, Goodbye Baby

What exactly are you trying to say?

MissLadyLoki
11-22-2010, 09:07 AM
Fleetwood Mac- Warm Ways and I'm So Afraid

Rumours- Dreams and I Don't Wanna Know (many times, I'll let it play through)

Tusk-Not That Funny and Never Make Me Cry

Mirage- Pretty much the entire thing save for Gypsy, Hold Me, and a few others (yeah, I hate it, but whaddaya gonna do?)

Tango In The Night- Mystified, Welcome to the Room Sara, and When I See You Again

TerraRhiannon
11-22-2010, 10:11 AM
You haven't heard Tusk, Mirage or The White Album??

I've heard all the songs separately on them...but never the whole albums straight through.
I can't find them anywhere :s Or else I'd own them :D

Fleetwoodmark
11-22-2010, 12:03 PM
Nobody consider Say You Will, don't see many people commenting about it lol

Villavic
11-22-2010, 05:15 PM
Fleetwood Mac/Fleetwood Mac- Crystal I guess. Never convinced me.

Rumours- I listen to all of them when I play the entire album, it's my fave album. But if I have to choose a song to play, Oh Daddy maybe is never chosen.

Tusk- The Ledge, That's all for everyone, That's enough for me, Honey Hi, Beautiful Child

Fleetwood Mac/Live- Don't let me down again

Mirage- Only Over You

Tango In The Night- Caroline

Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits- no Question asked

Behind The Mask-Save Me, Stand on the Rock, Hard feelings

Time- I owned but never listen Time

Say You Will-Come

chiliD
11-22-2010, 06:26 PM
Dog & Dustbin - none
English Rose - none
Then Play On - "When You Say". But, I've added "World In Harmony" & "Green Manalishi" to my tracking of the album.
Kiln House - used to be "Mission Bell", but listen all the way through now...and I've added "Dragonfly" & "Purple Dancer" to the tracking order.
Future Games - none, even added the alternate take of "Lay It All Down" to the tracking order
Bare Trees - Mrs Scarrot's poem...I didn't even load it onto my iPod with the rest of the album...added "Trinity" in its place
Penguin - "(I'm a) Roadrunner"
Mystery To Me - none
Heroes Are Hard To Find - none
Fleetwood Mac - none
Rumours - all of them...I never listen to this one anymore. I've heard it enough to last 1,000 lifetimes
Tusk - "The Ledge" & "Not That Funny", but I have my own 12 song tracking order
Live - none
Mirage - "Oh Diane"....although, I added bonus tracks to it: "Cool Water", "Goodbye Angel" & "Teen Beat"...so it actually has two more songs than the original album.
Tango In The Night - "Welcome To The Room...Sara". Like with Mirage, I subtract one track & add three others: "You & I, Part 1", "Book Of Miracles" & "Down Endless Street".
Greatest Hits - all of 'em...I took "As Long As You Follow" & added it to BTM's tracking order, so I don't listen to this one at all.
Behind The Mask - "The Second Time". But, I've added "As Long As You Follow", "Paper Doll", "Got No Home", "Intuition", & "Lizard People" to the tracking order.
Time - none...even added the Soccer Rocks The Globe version of "Blow By Blow" as a bonus track.
The Dance - don't listen to this one much at all...but I've tracked it so it is in the same order as the video..except for some reason, I don't have a copy of this version of "Gold Dust Woman"...can anyone help a brother out, please?
Say You Will - "Running Through The Garden" & "Silver Girl", but replaced them with "Not Make Believe" & "Love Minus Zero/No Limit". And, sometimes I play it with my Frankenstein "what if they relented and made it a 2 CD set" tracking order.