Alternate Line Ups thread

[roomsonfire21]

Just curious, which of these three lineups other than the classic line up would you choose.

Mick, John, Stevie, Lindsey(Unleashed/Say You Will)

Mick, John,Stevie,Christine,Replacement Guitarist(Tango in the Night/Behind the Mask)

Mick, John, Christine, Lindsay(never happened, but could have)

tell me what you think!

and oh yeah, Merry Christmas!:angel:

[TrueFaith77]

unleashed/say you will

[holidayroad]

Mick, John, Lindsey, & Christine. Fleetwood Mac without the drama!! Seriously, I am a fan of Stevie, but I get tired of the problems, arguments, fights, and drama concerning Lindsey and Stevie.

[Gypsycat999]

^^ I agree with you. I'd really be interested to hear what Mick, John, Chris & Linds sound like these days when there's no Stevie. It wouldn't be like the FM we know most likely but they're 4 great talented musicians and they surely would create some great music. I think the life performences would suffer a bit though. I mean, Stevie doesn't do that much but she's a front woman and Chris would never be that. However, she's the better one in the studio I guess.

[louielouie2000]

I don't know... any deviation from the Rumours 5 kinda falls flat for me.

Without Lindsey the band sounded like any other over produced soft rock adult contemporary group.

Without Christine, there's no one to soften the chasm between Stevie and Lindsey (musically and drama wise). You're also missing the pop element that made the band so popular. And you're missing 1/3 of the voices that made Fleetwood Mac's harmonies world famous.

When Stevie was gone, you lost all the passion and drama that people so loved about the band. People just don't give a damn about Fleetwood Mac without her.

It was the combination of the 5 most unlikely people that made the band so special. I don't like a single one of them being gone. For me, I suppose the lesser of the evils is Christine being gone. Lindsey is an absolutely essential creative force, and Stevie's emotive presence also sets the band apart. Christine was the bridge between the two obviously. But Stevie and Lindsey are the stars. You really can't lose either of them.

[HomerMcvie]

It was the combination of the 5 most unlikely people that made the band so special. I don't like a single one of them being gone. For me, I suppose the lesser of the evils is Christine being gone. Lindsey is an absolutely essential creative force, and Stevie's emotive presence also sets the band apart. Christine was the bridge between the two obviously. But Stevie and Lindsey are the stars. You really can't lose either of them.
I only have SYW, because it was GIVEN to me(I did steal [DL] it, beforehand). My cousin's roommate bought it, and heard Come, and decided that it sucked, and gave it to me! "What is this noise? It doesn't sound like FM".

Without Chris, FM is not FM, to me.

[David]

Without Chris, FM is not FM, to me.At gunpoint, I'd pick Mick+John+Christine+Lindsey because it would give me the opportunity to hear Christine once again, & then I could use Lindsey's songs for phone calls or bathroom breaks or churros.

[louielouie2000]

I only have SYW, because it was GIVEN to me(I did steal [DL] it, beforehand). My cousin's roommate bought it, and heard Come, and decided that it sucked, and gave it to me! "What is this noise? It doesn't sound like FM".

Without Chris, FM is not FM, to me.

I agree that FM these days is... something different. Christine was what unified the radically different people, and made the band cohesive and enjoyable. To me, the history of FM began when Christine joined, and essentially ended when she left. She WAS the sound of Fleetwood Mac. Just as Stevie is undeniably the face. I wanted to like SYW very much, because I'm such a fan of Buckingham and Nicks. But the band is just not the same without Christine's counterpoint. The formula has been tampered with, and the magic has evaporated. Granted, there were some solid songs on SYW... but they could have been SO much better with Christine's touch.

[mylittledemon]

I don't know... any deviation from the Rumours 5 kinda falls flat for me.

Without Lindsey the band sounded like any other over produced soft rock adult contemporary group.

Without Christine, there's no one to soften the chasm between Stevie and Lindsey (musically and drama wise). You're also missing the pop element that made the band so popular. And you're missing 1/3 of the voices that made Fleetwood Mac's harmonies world famous.

When Stevie was gone, you lost all the passion and drama that people so loved about the band. People just don't give a damn about Fleetwood Mac without her.

It was the combination of the 5 most unlikely people that made the band so special. I don't like a single one of them being gone. For me, I suppose the lesser of the evils is Christine being gone. Lindsey is an absolutely essential creative force, and Stevie's emotive presence also sets the band apart. Christine was the bridge between the two obviously. But Stevie and Lindsey are the stars. You really can't lose either of them.

You have been spot on lately. ;)

[HejiraNYC]

MJLC for me, definitely. In recent years I've preferred stevie solo vs her stuff with FM. So fm plus stevie solo would be the best of both worlds.

[Lindsfan]

Mick, John, Christine, Lindsey. I love the current lin-up...BUT, it would be cool to have the 4 musicians together, jamming. Plus, I really love Chris and Linds singing together. That would be neat : )

[SteveMacD]

Mick, John, Christine, and Lindsey.

ALTHOUGH...I'd still rather have Mick, John, Christine, and Billy over the current incarnation.

For that matter, if Peter Green had been mentally healthy enough to come back into the popular music world like Mick had wanted around the time the band was making Tusk, I think it would have been especially cool if Peter Green and Bob Welch came back to Fleetwood Mac around the time the band was thinking of firing Lindsey. If it would have been a full time thing, I think there could have been a few more amazing Fleetwood Mac albums.

[HomerMcvie]

I agree that FM these days is... something different. Christine was what unified the radically different people, and made the band cohesive and enjoyable. To me, the history of FM began when Christine joined, and essentially ended when she left. She WAS the sound of Fleetwood Mac. Just as Stevie is undeniably the face. I wanted to like SYW very much, because I'm such a fan of Buckingham and Nicks. But the band is just not the same without Christine's counterpoint. The formula has been tampered with, and the magic has evaporated. Granted, there were some solid songs on SYW... but they could have been SO much better with Christine's touch.

She really was THE SOUND of FM. The Great Unifier!

And I agree that there were a few solid songs on SYW. It would've been a MUCH stronger album, if they'd cut it in half! :laugh: I love WTWCT, Steal Your Heart Away, Miranda, Thrown Down....

But stuff like Come and Murrow???? C'mon, those belonged on a solo album, not a FM album!

[louielouie2000]

She really was THE SOUND of FM. The Great Unifier!

And I agree that there were a few solid songs on SYW. It would've been a MUCH stronger album, if they'd cut it in half! :laugh: I love WTWCT, Steal Your Heart Away, Miranda, Thrown Down....

But stuff like Come and Murrow???? C'mon, those belonged on a solo album, not a FM album!

I totally agree! SYW was so bloated it couldn't take off, and collapsed under it's own weight. Had the album been more concise and direct with the point it was trying to make, it could have really worked.

[roomsonfire21]

I totally agree! SYW was so bloated it couldn't take off, and collapsed under it's own weight. Had the album been more concise and direct with the point it was trying to make, it could have really worked.

I loved Say You Will personally. It had an updated and contemporary feel, yet retained much of the mac sound. Lindsay had some brilliant songs (come has to be one of FM's heaviest songs), and Stevie really stepped up to the plate to deliver a bunch of great songs! I have the feeling though that if christine had stayed, many of stevies songs would have been taken off, which would not be fair:distress:.

I eagerly await the new mac album!:blob2:

Merry Christmas:angel:

[jaycee]

Mick, John, Christine, and Lindsey for me. Simply because Christine and Lindsey each wrote more songs than Stevie in the Rumours line-up era. That, and you can't replace Lindsey! :D
Even so, it's like splitting hairs to choose between Stevie and Christine... ahh, the torture!

[Angel69]

I love SYW. Still do. Is it perfect? No. But it still shows them off to be a band that is musically very experimental. That's the thing with Fleetwood Mac. They always get sorta pigeon holed into being a soft rock band. But their music runs the gamut....hell I would even go as far as saying some of the live stuff borders on metal. When you attend a show by them you could have say Over And Over and then you get the truely overpowering The Chain.

Live boots from say Rumours on through now show that this band is very versatile, which is something that I feel gets lost when your hearing their songs on the radio.

I do like and love some of the stuff recorded before the addition of Lindsey and Stevie, however it's the 5 fireflies that I love the most. Passion, drama and excellent musicianship and presentation add up to a most wonderful collage of dynamics.

Even now that they are in their 60's they still put forth amazing shows. Always perfect? No. The MSG show from June 09 was amazing. The show opener from Pittsburg so so. Nerves? Quite possibly. They are the one band that I always go to for listening pleasure above all others. Been a fan since 1977 and my interest in them has never waned......."we just refuse to go way".

[HomerMcvie]

Lindsay


I have the feeling though that if christine had stayed, many of stevies songs would have been taken off, which would not be fair:distress:.


Firstly, LindsEy!

Yeah, I couldn't have listened to SYW, without Silver Girl, or Illume. :lol:
:mad:

[vivfox]

How about Mick, Christine, Lindsey, Stevie? Hire a new bass player. Yeah you'll miss John on his solo on The Chain but other than that anyone can play his parts.:sorry:

[SteveMacD]

She really was THE SOUND of FM. The Great Unifier!

And I agree that there were a few solid songs on SYW. It would've been a MUCH stronger album, if they'd cut it in half! :laugh: I love WTWCT, Steal Your Heart Away, Miranda, Thrown Down....

But stuff like Come and Murrow???? C'mon, those belonged on a solo album, not a FM album!
I agree completely. Oddly, though, Down On Rodeo would've been way better on a Fleetwood Mac album.

I think they COULD'VE released a great album without Christine. But damn, there's a lot of throw away crap and stuff better suited to their solo outings. Less is more sometimes.

[SteveMacD]

I loved Say You Will personally. It had an updated and contemporary feel, yet retained much of the mac sound. Lindsay had some brilliant songs (come has to be one of FM's heaviest songs), and Stevie really stepped up to the plate to deliver a bunch of great songs! I have the feeling though that if christine had stayed, many of stevies songs would have been taken off, which would not be fair:distress:
I wasn't too happy with a lot of Stevie's stuff. Thrown Down, Smile At You, Goodbye Baby, and Say You Will were great. Destiny Rules and Running Through The Garden were okay. The rest did nothing for me.

To be fair, the same is true with a lot of Lindsey's stuff AND, for that matter, In The Meantime had a few skippers.

Bottom line, the whole Fleetwood Mac through Tusk days are long behind them.

[louielouie2000]

I wasn't too happy with a lot of Stevie's stuff. Thrown Down, Smile At You, Goodbye Baby, and Say You Will were great. Destiny Rules and Running Through The Garden were okay. The rest did nothing for me.

To be fair, the same is true with a lot of Lindsey's stuff AND, for that matter, In The Meantime had a few skippers.

Bottom line, the whole Fleetwood Mac through Tusk days are long behind them.

Between Trouble In Shangri La, Say You Will, In The Meantime, Under The Skin, & Gift Of Screws there was some formidable material. 2-3 really strong Mac albums could have been made by picking out all the good stuff. I think the individual songwriters are all still writing and creating high quality music... but they just don't work together very well after all these years. And when they work apart, they tend to let their standards slip some with regards to filler. There was most certainly filler on Say You Will too... but again, that goes back to egos not allowing close working relationships, and to Lindsey's insistence on a double album at all costs.

I say all of this because I feel the band still has the potential to release really great material. They just let other crap trip them up.

[vivfox]

Bottom line, the whole Fleetwood Mac through Tusk days are long behind them.

In most cases this is true for most bands. The first 3 albums are usually the best. Record Companies know this too and that's why they own the artists in the beginnings of their careers.

[vivfox]

they tend to let their standards slip some with regards to filler. There was most certainly filler on Say You Will. Egos, not allowing close working relationships, and to Lindsey's insistence on a double album at all costs.



Filler is a matter of opinion. I am so glad SYW was a double album. I like every song on there except Silver Girl and was thrilled to get all that new music in one sitting.