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Dark Angel
12-10-2009, 05:43 PM
I was listening to the radio in my car after picking up my daughter, and happened to come in at the very end of GYOW. The DJ mentioned afterwards that Lindsey had confirmed that there would be a new album and "extensive touring" in 2010. Anyone else hear of this?[/COLOR]

louielouie2000
12-10-2009, 06:04 PM
I was listening to the radio in my car after picking up my daughter, and happened to come in at the very end of GYOW. The DJ mentioned afterwards that Lindsey had confirmed that there would be a new album and "extensive touring" in 2010. Anyone else hear of this?[/COLOR]

Seems he was quoted as having said that in one of his recent European interviews. I just don't see how they can get an album out that fast though.

silvasprings
12-10-2009, 06:32 PM
I know this is farfetched but i think maybe they might have begun work on a new album already, they had that three month break between June and October they might have been able to put done some sort of demos etc then.

But then maybe it's just wishful thinking- It's all speculation till we get confirmation from the whole band.

mylittledemon
12-10-2009, 06:34 PM
I think this tour was really meant, in part, to prepare them for the studio. Getting their chops up, they'll be fresh to go into the studio in the New Year ready to rock. I'm sure they've got heaps of material/songs

StreetAngel86
12-10-2009, 06:36 PM
lindsey's been saying they dont have a new album to promote...YET
i think it's looking fairly promising
dont think a tour would happen next year
unless they work super hard and fast in the new year

i'll just be happy with a new record

chiliD
12-10-2009, 06:56 PM
If they DID have new material, I think it would've behooved them to introduce a new song or two while they were on tour (as they did with both Rumours & Tusk material....and basically likewise with The Dance.)

Nothing better than going into the studio with new material that has been "road tested".

silvasprings
12-10-2009, 07:06 PM
If they DID have new material, I think it would've behooved them to introduce a new song or two while they were on tour (as they did with both Rumours & Tusk material....and basically likewise with The Dance.)

Nothing better than going into the studio with new material that has been "road tested".

Didn't stevie sing part of a song about hurricane katrina at new orleans on the american leg?

Maybe it will be on the new album???

SandyMac
12-10-2009, 07:55 PM
Didn't stevie sing part of a song about hurricane katrina at new orleans on the american leg?

Maybe it will be on the new album???

Good point. I think during the break, they might have gone their separate ways to work on writing or doing demos so that they will have stuff to present next year to get ahead of the game a little bit. I think if they were dedicated and focused, they could could record an album in 3 months. Isn't that the time it took for the white album? If they do get it done in 3-4 months, say done by May, a couple of months for mixing... it could be released by late fall or early winter, but in reality, they could start the actual tour for it in the Fall before the actual release date.

For SYW, Stevie cranked out 4 new songs in a month right? (writing them, doing a demo), so in theory, it could be done. Especially if they have an outside producer that is good at producing in a specific time line and not being extremely perfectionistic.

jwd
12-10-2009, 07:59 PM
If they DID have new material, I think it would've behooved them to introduce a new song or two while they were on tour (as they did with both Rumours & Tusk material....and basically likewise with The Dance.)

Nothing better than going into the studio with new material that has been "road tested".


No. No. No. It was the GREATEST HITS TOUR, remember? They didn't want to mess with any new songs, and possibly have someone get up and leave to go to the pot while they played any new stuff.

Stevie's~Prince
12-10-2009, 08:24 PM
I reckon a new album is innement.. I think maybe there was a little trouble getting Stevie on board perhaps and Lindsay said at the Melb concert they didn't have a new album to promote yet! And then signed off with "See you next time Melbourne" :nod:

louielouie2000
12-10-2009, 08:29 PM
I know this is farfetched but i think maybe they might have begun work on a new album already, they had that three month break between June and October they might have been able to put done some sort of demos etc then.

But then maybe it's just wishful thinking- It's all speculation till we get confirmation from the whole band.

You very well could be on to something. They could have been tinkering some last year too for that matter, before hitting the road. Maybe they shared some of the demos they had, and felt it would make sense to get warmed up to each other for a year on the road and sharpen their game before going into the studio. After all, they were miserable going into the studio cold for SYW, and everyone in the band seems to really enjoy touring. I have high hopes for how the next album will sound... because it seems they're all determined to best SYW. I just have my doubts that it'll be released anytime within the next 2 years.

michelej1
12-10-2009, 08:54 PM
I'm all for a new album and excited about the prospects. As for another tour, unless they played smaller, more intimate venues, I don't think touring again would be a good thing and they should know this too, after the way they saturated the market in 2004, following the success of 2003.

Michele

louielouie2000
12-10-2009, 08:58 PM
I'm all for a new album and excited about the prospects. As for another tour, unless they played smaller, more intimate venues, I don't think touring again would be a good thing and they should know this too, after the way they saturated the market in 2004, following the success of 2003.

Michele

Oh I agree, the market won't be ready next summer to absorb more Mac concerts. They've already hit Madison Square Garden alone 3 times this year, right? They had to cancel at least Greensboro for lack of sales. Unless the economy goes through the roof in the next 6 months, they should put off touring for a little while.

jannieC
12-10-2009, 09:10 PM
Oh I agree, the market won't be ready next summer to absorb more Mac concerts. They've already hit Madison Square Garden alone 3 times this year, right? They had to cancel at least Greensboro for lack of sales. Unless the economy goes through the roof in the next 6 months, they should put off touring for a little while.
I was really unhappy about this.

StreetAngel86
12-10-2009, 09:32 PM
No. No. No. It was the GREATEST HITS TOUR, remember? They didn't want to mess with any new songs, and possibly have someone get up and leave to go to the pot while they played any new stuff.

but isn't that EXACTLY what the Dance was essentially?
a greatest hits quasi reunion tour?
Christine and Stevie threw new songs in to the mix...oh o did Lindsey :cool:
i think it would be okay to maybe introduce ONE or TWO songs towards the end of the tour...at the end of the concert
just to see what kinda of reaction they get

wheart
12-10-2009, 10:09 PM
not that Stevie's word means anything but according to her, the were supposed to have a January meeting to discuss the future plans of The Mac. Perhaps they already had the meeting during their break...

mylittledemon
12-10-2009, 10:13 PM
Or on the 80 hour flight from LA to Auckland :lol:

MacMan
12-10-2009, 10:43 PM
Oh I agree, the market won't be ready next summer to absorb more Mac concerts. They've already hit Madison Square Garden alone 3 times this year, right? They had to cancel at least Greensboro for lack of sales. Unless the economy goes through the roof in the next 6 months, they should put off touring for a little while.

I agree... Take some time off - get back to recording something, then come out again... I honestly don't get the impression they will tour again come spring. Last year tickets for the March shows started going onsale in Dec 08... Plus haven't they pretty much combed through all the major and secondary markets this past year. Maybe if they go out again in the summer and do those outdoor venues you have in the states that will be decided at this January meeting... Personally, I think they've toured enough this past year and should have a good enough base to go back in to record.

DavidMn
12-10-2009, 11:02 PM
My friend Torri who most of you know here went to Mick's meet and greet thing in Manchester NH in June and she asked him point blank are you guys coming back to the states next year and he said yes along with a cryptic statement which went something along the lines of "and we will have something special for you next summer, but thats all im going to say at this point.":nod:

Amlyn
12-10-2009, 11:06 PM
Well Mick is going out with the MFBB in Feb and March back down in Aus, right? Is he touring anywhere else? So that cuts him out of the picture for a little while.

I do remain optimistic that we will see something new from them, but I just don't see them cranking something quickly. I can see them taking the first half of the year off, going into the studio the second half of 2010 and then backing a new album out on tour in 2011.

Having said that, I do hope that they don't lose all the momentum and synergy they created touring together this year if they wait more than a few months to get back together.

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

louielouie2000
12-10-2009, 11:17 PM
My friend Torri who most of you know here went to Mick's meet and greet thing in Manchester NH in June and she asked him point blank are you guys coming back to the states next year and he said yes along with a cryptic statement which went something along the lines of "and we will have something special for you next summer, but thats all im going to say at this point.":nod:

You know? That really sets the little hamster on the wheel in my brain into motion :laugh:. Since they've all talked about using outside producers, I wonder how quickly that could fast track a new album? After all, Lindsey is the consummate studio dawdler... he took 14 years in between Out Of The Cradle and Under The Skin :laugh:. Maybe the band is going to take a more cerebral approach to recording this time around (just record what they feel without second guessing it)... then let the producers and mixers have a field day with it. We could get an album pretty quickly if that were the case. I can't see it happening, but it's certainly on the outer fringes of the realm of possibility :laugh:.

Phoenix
12-11-2009, 12:42 AM
Or on the 80 hour flight from LA to Auckland :lol:

:laugh: Good one.

equeen102289
12-11-2009, 12:47 AM
I might be in the minority here when I say this, but I really, really hope they don't make another album. Say You Will was far from great and I think it's just a waste of time without Christine.

I would like them to finish up this tour and for Stevie to go into the studio ALONE and make her own album. I want new solo material.

mylittledemon
12-11-2009, 12:54 AM
I hear ya equeen. On the other hand, i want them to make a new album (in the least) so they can top Say You Will. That was not a good record to "end" on.

louielouie2000
12-11-2009, 01:10 AM
I hear ya equeen. On the other hand, i want them to make a new album (in the least) so they can top Say You Will. That was not a good record to "end" on.

My train of thought is this: Lindsey's Gift Of Screws was fantastic and Stevie's Trouble In Shangri La was really great... why can't they make just as good, if not better of an album together? They just can't leave the Mac legacy ending with Say You Will... they just can't :distress:.

I agree that Christine was one of the essential ingredients that made the Rumours band magical... but that shouldn't mean the Mac is incapable of making good music without her. Buckingham Nicks was a good, solid album... and anything with a John McVie-Mick Fleetwood rhythm section is redeeming in one way or another. All of this logic tells us they must be able to give us one last good album under the Mac moniker.

It seems it's egos and feelings that are ensnaring everyone... maybe they can figure out a way around that with outside producers, and a will to record a final, kick ass record. I've becoming pretty pessimistic the past 5 years or so when it comes to Fleetwood Mac... but I have to believe they can wow us one last time! If they truly want to and go into it with pure motives and open minds, they can accomplish it... no doubt! :thumbsup:

LukeA
12-11-2009, 01:36 AM
My friend Torri who most of you know here went to Mick's meet and greet thing in Manchester NH in June and she asked him point blank are you guys coming back to the states next year and he said yes along with a cryptic statement which went something along the lines of "and we will have something special for you next summer, but thats all im going to say at this point.":nod:

I'm more shocked/surprised that Torri paid for a meet & greet! Would be nice to see her again.

But, back to the point- Mick's a charlatan- no sense listening to him.

LukeA
12-11-2009, 01:42 AM
There aren't that many secondary markets left for FM to hit next year. Portland's the biggest market they skipped in '09, and take it from me that they'd go over like a lead balloon here right now.

If they have any business sense/Geritol left, they'll realize its best to take '10 off and come back in '11 for whatever it is they have left for us.

DavidMn
12-11-2009, 03:12 AM
I'm more shocked/surprised that Torri paid for a meet & greet! Would be nice to see her again.

But, back to the point- Mick's a charlatan- no sense listening to him.I think she only paid like $150 for the whole thing it was one of those Ebay auctions. And Let's not kid ourselves here by that time who the hell was gonna pay $800 or whatever it was that was the original asking price!:laugh:

APerfectLie
12-11-2009, 03:16 AM
I'm all for a new album and excited about the prospects. As for another tour, unless they played smaller, more intimate venues, I don't think touring again would be a good thing and they should know this too, after the way they saturated the market in 2004, following the success of 2003.

Michele

When you say "smaller, more intimate venues" it makes me think of places like Antone's in Austin, TX. It would be ****ING AMAZING to see Fleetwood Mac at such a small venue. However, they would have to limit tickets and jack the price up.

louielouie2000
12-11-2009, 04:12 AM
When you say "smaller, more intimate venues" it makes me think of places like Antone's in Austin, TX. It would be ****ING AMAZING to see Fleetwood Mac at such a small venue. However, they would have to limit tickets and jack the price up.

To play someplace like Antone's they'd have to ditch the 400 backing musicians, half dozen backing vocalists, guitar techs, and just play MUSIC! :thumbsup: That'd be the most kick ass show ever... Austinites wouldn't accept any less! :p

APerfectLie
12-11-2009, 05:21 AM
To play someplace like Antone's they'd have to ditch the 400 backing musicians, half dozen backing vocalists, guitar techs, and just play MUSIC! :thumbsup: That'd be the most kick ass show ever... Austinites wouldn't accept any less! :p

I know!!! It'd never happen, but I can dream can't I??

APerfectLie
12-11-2009, 05:23 AM
My friend Torri who most of you know here went to Mick's meet and greet thing in Manchester NH in June and she asked him point blank are you guys coming back to the states next year and he said yes along with a cryptic statement which went something along the lines of "and we will have something special for you next summer, but thats all im going to say at this point.":nod:

This got me really excited, but then I thought hmm, maybe they recorded a show during unleashed and are going to release a CD/DVD of it in the summer? I mean, it'd be great, and I want a cd/dvd of unleashed, but a new album would be much more preferred.

wheart
12-11-2009, 08:45 AM
I might be in the minority here when I say this, but I really, really hope they don't make another album. Say You Will was far from great and I think it's just a waste of time without Christine.

I would like them to finish up this tour and for Stevie to go into the studio ALONE and make her own album. I want new solo material.

YES!!! SYW was a disappointment (for the most part) yet I loved Lindsey's past two solo albums. And yeah, Stevie NEEDS to get in the studio again (alone).

wheart
12-11-2009, 08:47 AM
My friend Torri who most of you know here went to Mick's meet and greet thing in Manchester NH in June and she asked him point blank are you guys coming back to the states next year and he said yes along with a cryptic statement which went something along the lines of "and we will have something special for you next summer, but thats all im going to say at this point.":nod:

please don't tell me the "surprise" is another reissue of Rumors...

holidayroad
12-11-2009, 10:15 AM
I know this is farfetched but i think maybe they might have begun work on a new album already, they had that three month break between June and October they might have been able to put done some sort of demos etc then.

But then maybe it's just wishful thinking- It's all speculation till we get confirmation from the whole band.

I'd say it's a good likelihood that Lindsey already has finished material sitting around.

BigAl84
12-11-2009, 11:04 AM
I'm all for a new album and excited about the prospects. As for another tour, unless they played smaller, more intimate venues, I don't think touring again would be a good thing and they should know this too, after the way they saturated the market in 2004, following the success of 2003.

Michele

Agreed. There are so many great theatres they could do and probably sell them out. The vic in chicago...beacon in new york...etc etc

The only way it will ever happen is the suggestion and push coming from lindsey since he has expressed really enjoying the smaller venues. I think it would be waaaaaaaaay to big of a step down for stevies ego and probably not enough cash for mick/stevie.

Although I dare say that the production cost would be significantly reduced for such smaller venues, tickets would sell better....they would probably come out ahead and feel better....as opposed to the pathetic 1/4 full arena that they faced in cleveland earlier this year. LOL but when has common sense ever really flown into their nests.

Peestie
12-11-2009, 11:51 AM
I'd say it's a good likelihood that Lindsey already has finished material sitting around.

He could release half a tribute album to the Rolling Stones with some of his leftover covers from the original GOS sessions so I think you're right, he's bound to have a few originals floating around as well.

BellaDonna93
12-11-2009, 11:57 AM
My friend Torri who most of you know here went to Mick's meet and greet thing in Manchester NH in June and she asked him point blank are you guys coming back to the states next year and he said yes along with a cryptic statement which went something along the lines of "and we will have something special for you next summer, but thats all im going to say at this point.":nod:

That made me excited to....like my heart started to beat faster in a strange sorta way....lol...really....:blob2: :blob1:
But I don't want a re-release of Rumours....WE WANT A NEW RECORD!!! And now, the new record thing seems clearer...hope they do it! Because, we all have heard Lindsey say on this tour that they "don't have a new album to promote...yet." :nod: And even "Stockholm, see you next time!" :blob2:
I wish for 2 things to happen next year:

1. Fleetwood Mac making a NEW album with NEW songs and everyone are happy with that...

2. Fleetwood Mac touring the world again....comes to Sweden....and I'm so happy!!

That 2ond one, is just a dream..:(..well, they were here this year and hadn't been in 20 years, so I'm NOT expecting this to happen that soon again...:distress:

And all I have to do is to travel over the ocean, to the US, and go to a Mac concert....or a Stevie solo concert (my dream) if she'll tour solo...:]

HejiraNYC
12-11-2009, 12:04 PM
Agreed. There are so many great theatres they could do and probably sell them out. The vic in chicago...beacon in new york...etc etc

The only way it will ever happen is the suggestion and push coming from lindsey since he has expressed really enjoying the smaller venues. I think it would be waaaaaaaaay to big of a step down for stevies ego and probably not enough cash for mick/stevie.

Although I dare say that the production cost would be significantly reduced for such smaller venues, tickets would sell better....they would probably come out ahead and feel better....as opposed to the pathetic 1/4 full arena that they faced in cleveland earlier this year. LOL but when has common sense ever really flown into their nests.


I don't think they are playing smaller arenas simply because they don't have to. The notion of them playing rinky dinky little theatres in Chicago and New York is just absurd. True, they didn't come close to selling out MSG on their second go-round (only three months after the first round of multiple NYC-area dates). But the first round of shows was almost completely full with over 13K-15K in attendance each night. And I seriously doubt that Lindsey as a solo act would turn down the opportunity to play MSG- it's simply because he can't. I don't think there are many musicians, if any, that intentionally play multiple dates (in the middle of a tour) in small theatres vs. one or two large arena dates. Steely Dan comes to mind, I guess... But their ticket prices were astronomical- made FM tickets look like a sample sale by comparison. I hate huge arenas in general, but I think FM would look pretty odd in a small space. Plus I would rather have them keep the ticket prices lower and play large arenas.

chiliD
12-11-2009, 12:06 PM
Agreed. There are so many great theatres they could do and probably sell them out. The vic in chicago...beacon in new york...etc etc

The Beacon is out...Circ Du Soleil has exclusive residency there starting in January, I believe. Heck, Beacon management even 86'd the Allman Bros who've kept the place busy every spring for two or three weeks for the past 25 years or so.

Fleetwoodmark
12-11-2009, 02:25 PM
Let's be clear now. We all want a new album but we should not rush them into making one. Once they have finished the tour they should take a month out and then start on it. We don't don't want a half baked record here...we want a kick ass Mac album to stand the test of time. That means not shoving material Lindsey had "lying around" on it. (Look what happened to Say You Will).

The album needs to be made from the ground up with the them collaborating with an outside producer to help LB out a bit. They should take about 7-9 months so It gives S & L's voices to rejuvenate (With plenty of voice coaching !!) after a very extensive tour.

I wish them luck and hope it's as good as it can be :)

mylittledemon
12-11-2009, 03:01 PM
My train of thought is this: Lindsey's Gift Of Screws was fantastic and Stevie's Trouble In Shangri La was really great... why can't they make just as good, if not better of an album together? They just can't leave the Mac legacy ending with Say You Will... they just can't :distress:.

I agree that Christine was one of the essential ingredients that made the Rumours band magical... but that shouldn't mean the Mac is incapable of making good music without her. Buckingham Nicks was a good, solid album... and anything with a John McVie-Mick Fleetwood rhythm section is redeeming in one way or another. All of this logic tells us they must be able to give us one last good album under the Mac moniker.

It seems it's egos and feelings that are ensnaring everyone... maybe they can figure out a way around that with outside producers, and a will to record a final, kick ass record. I've becoming pretty pessimistic the past 5 years or so when it comes to Fleetwood Mac... but I have to believe they can wow us one last time! If they truly want to and go into it with pure motives and open minds, they can accomplish it... no doubt! :thumbsup:


So are you gonna go back in time with that car of yours and get Christine back already, or what? ;)

Peestie
12-11-2009, 03:36 PM
That means not shoving material Lindsey had "lying around" on it. (Look what happened to Say You Will).


But that's also what happened to TITN. I really enjoy SYW so another one like that wouldn't be a bad thing in my eyes.

louielouie2000
12-11-2009, 03:37 PM
Let's be clear now. We all want a new album but we should not rush them into making one. Once they have finished the tour they should take a month out and then start on it. We don't don't want a half baked record here...we want a kick ass Mac album to stand the test of time. That means not shoving material Lindsey had "lying around" on it. (Look what happened to Say You Will).

The album needs to be made from the ground up with the them collaborating with an outside producer to help LB out a bit. They should take about 7-9 months so It gives S & L's voices to rejuvenate (With plenty of voice coaching !!) after a very extensive tour.

I wish them luck and hope it's as good as it can be :)

I definitely agree that no new album should be rushed... that we want an album that can stand shoulder to shoulder with the best they've recorded. In many ways Say You Will sounds thrown together, yet it took 18 months to record. I almost wonder if they need to approach the creative process more cerebrally... think about it less, quibble about details less, and just let their creativity flow without motives. After all, they recorded the 1975 White Album in 3 months flat, and it's terrific. They seemed to have become artistically insecure in their older age. I think if they spent less than a year (6-12 months) they could get it right.

Fleetwoodmark
12-11-2009, 03:56 PM
I definitely agree that no new album should be rushed... that we want an album that can stand shoulder to shoulder with the best they've recorded. In many ways Say You Will sounds thrown together, yet it took 18 months to record. I almost wonder if they need to approach the creative process more cerebrally... think about it less, quibble about details less, and just let their creativity flow without motives. After all, they recorded the 1975 White Album in 3 months flat, and it's terrific. They seemed to have become artistically insecure in their older age. I think if they spent less than a year (6-12 months) they could get it right.

Bear in mind that alot of the White album material had already been written and performed (Rhiannon, Crystal, Monday Morning)...awesome though they were.

What I'm trying to say is that a new album shouldn't be flung together for the sake of time.

AliceLover
12-11-2009, 04:18 PM
If this is anything like "Gift of Screws," I am totally down! :thumbsup:

holidayroad
12-12-2009, 12:58 AM
But that's also what happened to TITN. I really enjoy SYW so another one like that wouldn't be a bad thing in my eyes.

I think both TITN and SYW were great. Of course, I wish Lindsey had not had to wait until SYW to use the material he already had ready for the old version of GOS. It would be nice if Fleetwood Mac took their time and built up all new material, but we also have to realize that time is not something they have a lot of. At their age, health concerns could end up putting a stop to things at any moment, so taking lots of time may not be an option.

tilthefirefades
12-12-2009, 04:38 AM
a new album would be incredible, i do believe however my heart would burst with excitement though. can you imagine if christine were to even join in?? :blob2::blob2::blob2:

Phoenixgypsy
12-12-2009, 08:55 AM
Am I being too negative if I say I'm not holding my breath?

tilthefirefades
12-12-2009, 02:54 PM
Am I being too negative if I say I'm not holding my breath?

i would say you are being realistic, because its just like holidayroad said, at their age, who knows what to expect.

louielouie2000
12-12-2009, 03:09 PM
Am I being too negative if I say I'm not holding my breath?

I'm not planning my future around it, I'm just being realistically optimistic. If I switch off emotion, and go purely into logic, we know everyone wasn't entirely satisfied with Say You Will. I know Lindsey feels it was a compromised effort, and Stevie doesn't care for the end product either. I say they'll throw down the gauntlet and record one last album, if only to leave their legacy on a higher note. I know that's something absolutely all parties involved are interested in.

I sense that's what Stevie did with Trouble In Shangri La, as she hated Street Angel. She recorded what she felt was the best album of her career, and left it at that. She clearly doesn't want to record another solo record. Lindsey has more to say as an artist, but I have a feeling that will come in the form of solo albums (after one last Mac album is recorded). I think the band clearly recognizes they goofed with Say You Will. Stevie freely admits to hating her songs on it, and Lindsey is even relenting and agreeing an outside producer is needed for the next Mac album. I think it'll happen, because of egos, if for nothing else.

StreetAngel86
12-12-2009, 05:36 PM
If this is anything like "Gift of Screws," I am totally down! :thumbsup:

i actually LOVE GOS...i'm surprised i liked it so much
i'm a Stevie!fan and i gotta say i probably like is better than TISL :shrug:

but im in the minority im sure, over in the corner in the I LOVE SYW camp :D and as much as i love it...i still feel like we should be given one more record, with totally kick ass **** on it. SnL and the whole band are just jiving really well together atm on this tour. if they take all that good energy into the studio....:eek: who knows what could be created

louielouie2000
12-12-2009, 05:49 PM
i actually LOVE GOS...i'm surprised i liked it so much
i'm a Stevie!fan and i gotta say i probably like is better than TISL :shrug:


I'm definitely a Stevie boy all the way too, but I can say without a doubt, that Gift Of Screws is Lindsey's best material, period... with or without the Mac. It's innovative, yet familiar. A full range of material: rock, ballads, folk, pop, acoustic... all in one incredibly tight, concise package. The album is a textbook definition of everything that Lindsey's ever been and stood for. I love Out Of The Cradle, and most all of Lindsey's Mac stuff... but he just totally nailed the mark with Gift Of Screws. As did Stevie for Trouble In Shangri La. It's like they both finally figured out how to make the absolutely perfect album after decades long careers. And that's why I am so anxious for one last really wonderful Mac album. I know they have the potential!! :thumbsup:

michelej1
12-12-2009, 08:34 PM
but im in the minority im sure, over in the corner in the I LOVE SYW camp :D and as much as i love it...i still feel like we should be given one more record, with totally kick ass **** on it. SnL and the whole band are just jiving really well together atm on this tour. if they take all that good energy into the studio....:eek: who knows what could be created

No, I'm with you. I am happy with SYW and grateful for it. I just want more, not to redeem SYW though. I don't think SYW needs redemption.

This reminds me of Curb Your Enthusiasm where everyone (including Jerry Seinfeld) told Larry that they had to do the reunion show right, because they'd already ruined one Seinfeld series finale and Larry kept saying, "it wasn't ruined. There was nothing wrong with that finale!"

Michele

SteveMacD
12-12-2009, 09:10 PM
and he said yes along with a cryptic statement which went something along the lines of "and we will have something special for you next summer, but thats all im going to say at this point.":nod:
They've perfected the anamatronic Christine McVie???

SteveMacD
12-12-2009, 09:29 PM
I definitely agree that no new album should be rushed... that we want an album that can stand shoulder to shoulder with the best they've recorded.
By their standards, I say rush it. Albums don't have to be perfect. In fact, most of my favorite albums have some type of flaw that make the album better than a flawless album.

Maybe if it weren't for the fact that I've seen how fast an album can actually be made I'd agree. But, just to provide a contrast, Bob Pollard released six studio albums, a magazine of his collages, a 100 song 4-CD box set of previously unreleased material (his third such box, BTW), a DVD, and a bootleg of his 2008 tour in 2009 alone. Making music, good music at that, is easy if you cut out all of the BS and just do it.

WarmSir3
12-13-2009, 05:36 AM
but im in the minority im sure, over in the corner in the I LOVE SYW camp :D and as much as i love it...i still feel like we should be given one more record, with totally kick ass **** on it. SnL and the whole band are just jiving really well together atm on this tour. if they take all that good energy into the studio....:eek: who knows what could be created

I love it too! I don't understand how they're not proud of their own songs on it, Goodbye Baby, Murrow Turning Over, Bleed To Love Her, Destiny Rules, among others are their strongest songs in years. I wonder how it could have sounded as a 1 disc, 4 Stevie songs 4 Lindsey songs 4 Christine In The Meantime songs album?

David
12-13-2009, 01:23 PM
Goodbye Baby, Murrow Turning Over, Bleed To Love Her, Destiny Rules, among others are their strongest songs in years. That group alone represents about a 25-year span of composition.

tilthefirefades
12-13-2009, 02:25 PM
I love it too! I don't understand how they're not proud of their own songs on it, Goodbye Baby, Murrow Turning Over, Bleed To Love Her, Destiny Rules, among others are their strongest songs in years. I wonder how it could have sounded as a 1 disc, 4 Stevie songs 4 Lindsey songs 4 Christine In The Meantime songs album?

AMEN! i totally agree with both of you! and i do believe that would be an incredible disc. but say you will is definitely my favorite album.

mylittledemon
12-13-2009, 04:23 PM
but say you will is definitely my favorite album.

Of all time, or Fleetwood Mac?

JeannieKartis
12-13-2009, 09:57 PM
Seems he was quoted as having said that in one of his recent European interviews. I just don't see how they can get an album out that fast though.

because it will be a 'lindsey' album, he's probably already laid down tracks and rearranged stevie's songs..all they will need to do is go into the studio a few times to tweak it! LOL

StreetAngel86
12-14-2009, 03:15 AM
because it will be a 'lindsey' album, he's probably already laid down tracks and rearranged stevie's songs..all they will need to do is go into the studio a few times to tweak it! LOL



And it's title will be a Stevie penned title... "Say you didn't..."

:eek::laugh:

tilthefirefades
12-14-2009, 04:58 AM
Of all time, or Fleetwood Mac?

of all time, but i love all of Fleetwood Mac's equally. Say You Will just does it for me haha

Spikey
12-14-2009, 11:26 AM
lol @ "Say you didn't".. :laugh:

Yeah, to be honest, I'd just be happy for a release, where they're not just a bunch of old, shelved songs retweaked. Let's see new stuff, GOS was a very talented album, of new material by Linds, Stevie can do it too now she's clean. And for ****'s sake they need to work together!!!! :blob2:

Come on, those batty interviews she does are proof of her continued creativity..

- Spike

Nico
12-14-2009, 06:09 PM
I'd be thrilled if they did release a new album. But I'd be equally thrilled, even more so, if Lindsey just released another solo album. I adore his incredible creativity and his last two albums have been more exciting to me than any other Mac-related releases of the past decade or so. But still, a group album would be wonderful. I loved SYW despite it's flaws. I think it was an overall excellent effort and hardly embarrassing.

louielouie2000
12-14-2009, 06:42 PM
I'd be thrilled if they did release a new album. But I'd be equally thrilled, even more so, if Lindsey just released another solo album. I adore his incredible creativity and his last two albums have been more exciting to me than any other Mac-related releases of the past decade or so. But still, a group album would be wonderful. I loved SYW despite it's flaws. I think it was an overall excellent effort and hardly embarrassing.

It seems to me like more LB solo albums are a given at this point... something I'm very happy about, and am looking forward to! I bet Lindsey will record another 4-5 albums before he fully retires. Who knew he'd the the prolific solo Macster of the 21st Century? :shrug:

Less likely are more Stevie solo records. At this point, I'm going to have to say we won't get another one. It's been 9 years now, and if she were going to change her mind, we'd have heard it from her lips by now. I think she just wrapped up her solo career with Trouble In Shangri La, and said everything she needed to say. And good for her for going out on top.

I'd say one last Mac album is pretty much a given at this point. I don't think it'll be next year... it will more likely be mid '11 or sometime in '12 at the earliest before we'd see it. The thing about Say You Will is this... there were some terrific songs on it, but it wasn't a terrific album. I know Lindsey has more to say artistically within the confines of the Mac... and it sounds like Stevie is determined to right what she felt like was wrong with Say You Will. If they truly get it right next time around, I think it'll be the last hurrah of their recording career. I see sporadic touring for another decade plus... but I think we'll only get one more album out of these kids.

SteveMacD
12-14-2009, 07:06 PM
It seems to me like more LB solo albums are a given at this point... something I'm very happy about, and am looking forward to! I bet Lindsey will record another 4-5 albums before he fully retires.
If Pollard only released 4 albums a year, his fans would think he was dying or something...

Who knew he'd the the prolific solo Macster of the 21st Century? :shrug:
Apparently, my definition of "prolific" is skewed...

Less likely are more Stevie solo records.
Doesn't bother me. The last one was okay at best. Should've quit after Wild Heart and given her best material after that to Fleetwood Mac, because it's been sad, IMO, since about 1986. Well, at least the part where she says she's a "solo artist." Really? Where's the art in always playing "Outside The Rain-Dreams," "I Need To Know," and buttload of songs you recorded with Fleetwood Mac, Stevie?

(Now, no Christine albums = a major source of my drinking problem...And, Lindsey = why I went to the indie dark side, which, as far as my feelings toward him is concerned, is why I went over to the indie dark side...Which really isn't all that dark).

At this point, I'm going to have to say we won't get another one. It's been 9 years now, and if she were going to change her mind, we'd have heard it from her lips by now. I think she just wrapped up her solo career with Trouble In Shangri La, and said everything she needed to say. And good for her for going out on top.
'Twould've been in 1983 to go out on top. I'm just happy she's shutting up at this point.

jwd
12-14-2009, 07:20 PM
but isn't that EXACTLY what the Dance was essentially?
a greatest hits quasi reunion tour?
Christine and Stevie threw new songs in to the mix...oh o did Lindsey :cool:
i think it would be okay to maybe introduce ONE or TWO songs towards the end of the tour...at the end of the concert
just to see what kinda of reaction they get

The Dance was a reunion tour. And the band did throw in new songs, much the same they have with every tour they've done the last few decades. Lindsey, Stevie, and Mick have repeatedly said that for this current tour they did not want to worry about new songs, but wanted to offer up all the hits this time and just have fun. Could they introduce new songs, yes. Would they, no. Well, with the exception of Stevie singing a few lines of the "NOLA song".

mylittledemon
12-14-2009, 07:26 PM
of all time, but i love all of Fleetwood Mac's equally. Say You Will just does it for me haha

Fair enough. ;)

David
12-14-2009, 07:28 PM
Could they introduce new songs, yes. Would they, no. Well, with the exception of Stevie singing a few verses of the NOLA song.And Mick playing the first two bars of a new blues number in Ft. Lauderdale (9 seconds in duration), but nobody ever talks about that!!!

Also, in Salt Lake City, Utah, Lindsey strummed an entire measure & a half (14 seconds in duration) from a hitherto-unknown song he's been composing. But nobody ever talks about that!!!

the only one that ever gets mentioned is Stevie singing a few words from her New Orleans song (12 seconds in duration).

See how prolific they all are with their new material? We are blessed if we would but realize it!!

jwd
12-14-2009, 07:37 PM
And Mick playing the first two bars of a new blues number in Ft. Lauderdale (9 seconds in duration), but nobody ever talks about that!!!

Also, in Salt Lake City, Utah, Lindsey strummed an entire measure & a half (14 seconds in duration) from a hitherto-unknown song he's been composing. But nobody ever talks about that!!!

the only one that ever gets mentioned is Stevie singing a few words from her New Orleans song (12 seconds in duration).

See how prolific they all are with their new material? We are blessed if we would but realize it!!

Stevie was always the most popular one of the bunch, go figure. ;) Actually I think the last time the band broke out new songs on the road was on The White Album Tour? Been eons ago, I tell ya!

louielouie2000
12-14-2009, 08:20 PM
Also, in Salt Lake City, Utah, Lindsey strummed an entire measure & a half (14 seconds in duration) from a hitherto-unknown song he's been composing. But nobody ever talks about that!!!

Ok, so this is the first I've heard of this. Anybody capture this on tape?

michelej1
12-14-2009, 09:37 PM
Also, in Salt Lake City, Utah, Lindsey strummed an entire measure & a half (14 seconds in duration) from a hitherto-unknown song he's been composing. But nobody ever talks about that!!!


Yeah, that would be the new intro to NGBA he's using now.

Also, at Wembley, when they waved to Christine and she waved back, she blew a kiss, but also mouthed 7 words to a new song we'd never heard before, so I'm hopeful that she will have a part in the new album and I can't wait.


Michele

hippilil86
12-14-2009, 09:58 PM
Yeah, that would be the new intro to NGBA he's using now.

Also, at Wembley, when they waved to Christine and she waved back, she blew a kiss, but also mouthed 7 words to a new song we'd never heard before, so I'm hopeful that she will have a part in the new album and I can't wait.


Michele

Wait....what?

mylittledemon
12-14-2009, 10:07 PM
but also mouthed 7 words to a new song we'd never heard before

:laugh:

Riiiiiight (in Dr. Evil fashion)

APerfectLie
12-15-2009, 02:14 AM
Less likely are more Stevie solo records. At this point, I'm going to have to say we won't get another one. It's been 9 years now, and if she were going to change her mind, we'd have heard it from her lips by now. I think she just wrapped up her solo career with Trouble In Shangri La, and said everything she needed to say. And good for her for going out on top.


I disagree.
I know her word isn't very reliable, but in March 2009 she said this:

"Well, when this whole Fleetwood Mac thing is done, I think I’m gonna do another record. I’ve been told by a lot of people that, “The music business is in such terrible shape, maybe you just shouldn’t do another record.” And I really took that to heart. Only in the last couple of months have I really started thinking, “Well you know what? I don’t even care if it doesn’t sell any records.” I need to go back into that creative world. I need to go back into the studio and sit at the piano and pull out all my thousands of pages of what I think is very good poetry, and write some new really beautiful songs and throw them out there. If people like them, great. If they don’t, that’s okay too. I need to do it for myself. So, are you going to hear something from me at some point? Yes you are"

michelej1
12-15-2009, 02:26 PM
Wait....what?

I think the words were something like Well Kept, Butter Cookie . . .

Just being silly.

Michele

Spikey
12-16-2009, 11:11 AM
I think the words were something like Well Kept, Butter Cookie . . .

Just being silly.

Michele

So there is a veneer of sarcasm below that innocent, sweet exterior? Whoda thunk it. :laugh:

I will say this, i've noticed a lot of McVie discussion here lately.

- Spike

holidayroad
12-16-2009, 01:03 PM
I disagree.
I know her word isn't very reliable, but in March 2009 she said this:

"Well, when this whole Fleetwood Mac thing is done, I think I’m gonna do another record. I’ve been told by a lot of people that, “The music business is in such terrible shape, maybe you just shouldn’t do another record.” And I really took that to heart. Only in the last couple of months have I really started thinking, “Well you know what? I don’t even care if it doesn’t sell any records.”

Sounds like something Lindsey would say......has said! (And that Stevie thought was ridiculous when he said it.)

Fiver
12-18-2009, 11:42 PM
I'm pretty optimistic we'll get a new album out of them, and I'm looking forward to it. I just bought SYW, though I haven't heard it yet, so I can't judge, but it sounds like they wouldn't wanna end their legacy on it.


Also, this interview back in December 08, Stevie says this near the end (2:10):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uu9lMMtAQGw

Yeah, not a confirmation or anything, I know, but it's nice to hear. :D

BellaDonna93
12-19-2009, 06:08 AM
I'm pretty optimistic we'll get a new album out of them, and I'm looking forward to it. I just bought SYW, though I haven't heard it yet, so I can't judge, but it sounds like they wouldn't wanna end their legacy on it.


Also, this interview back in December 08, Stevie says this near the end (2:10):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uu9lMMtAQGw

Yeah, not a confirmation or anything, I know, but it's nice to hear. :D

I BELIVE now, that there's an album on the way....I don't know anything, BUT I want to BELIVE it....at least :)

gypsy4life
12-19-2009, 09:21 AM
I BELIVE now, that there's an album on the way....I don't know anything, BUT I want to BELIVE it....at least :)



I agree! I want it to be real!

louielouie2000
12-19-2009, 01:20 PM
I'm pretty optimistic we'll get a new album out of them, and I'm looking forward to it. I just bought SYW, though I haven't heard it yet, so I can't judge, but it sounds like they wouldn't wanna end their legacy on it.

I would love to hear your first thoughts on Say You Will once you've listened to it a time or two. Start a new thread even! I know I loved it so much at first... but I think I was just so flustered and excited at the time to be getting new album, period. :laugh:

jbrownsjr
12-19-2009, 02:26 PM
I would love to hear your first thoughts on Say You Will once you've listened to it a time or two. Start a new thread even! I know I loved it so much at first... but I think I was just so flustered and excited at the time to be getting new album, period. :laugh:

Yeah I can barely listen to it now... at first i was intrigued... althought the opening tune is horrible..