Which of Lindsey's TUSK songs do you think frightened the record executives?

[vivfox]

Tusk
Not That Funny
That's Enough For Me
What Makes You Think You're the One

[chiliD]

The Ledge
Not That Funny
What Makes You Think You're The One

[michelej1]

Heck, I think even Tusk , the song, was somewhat frightening to people who were expecting more Top 10 pop smoothies. Tusk is addictive in its own way as generations of football fans can tell you today, but not so enchanting in 1979 when your sensibilities are Rumours minded and you were hoping for a big Christmas bonus.

Michele

[louielouie2000]

Tusk just doesn't sound that "out there" to me. It really wasn't too different from other anthemic songs of the day from Queen and War. Here are the two that still frighten ME, 30 years later! :laugh:

What Makes You Think You're The One
Not That Funny

[michelej1]

Tusk just doesn't sound that "out there" to me. It really wasn't too different from other anthemic songs of the day from Queen and War. Here are the two that still frighten ME, 30 years later! :laugh:

What Makes You Think You're The One
Not That Funny

I think the execs were frightened not only by the songs that were "out there" but by those that weren't catchy. Of course, Tusk is plenty catchy, but I don't know if it's a love at first glance -- or love at first listen -- kind of thing. Actually, thinking back, after Sara, Tusk might have been the only song I liked upon first listening to the album. I don't remember if I embraced Think About Me immediately or not, but of course, I love Think About Me and Angel today.

The songs of Lindsey's that are not punk are just so long and slow. I think they also would have scared the pants off of anyone eagerly hoping for something with a hook. Slap SMAP. Michele

[Lala]

I'm surprised no one's said The Ledge

[LukeA]

When considering the talent involved along with the climate & circumstances, "Tusk" is quite possibly the ballsiest first single of any artist ever.

[michelej1]

I'm surprised no one's said The Ledge

Chili did.

Michele

[chelluversu]

I Know I'm Not Wrong...

[aleuzzi]

Well, one of the strangest things about Tusk its track sequencing. I'm not sure how the songs could have been rearranged to make a more "logical flow" from one track to the next--and I'm not sure such a flow would be desirable. But I do know nothing is stranger than hearing "Over and Over"--a pleasant, glossy, easy-listening tune--followed by "The Ledge", which is one of the most weirdly-arranged/performed songs in rock-n-roll. The juxtaposition of those two tracks at the album's outset seems to encapsulate the spirit of the entire project: two bands working in one, chafing against one another and each benefitting from the other's presence.

[LukeA]

The juxtaposition of those two tracks at the album's outset seems to encapsulate the spirit of the entire project: two bands working in one, chafing against one another and each benefitting from the other's presence.

Very true. I'd also suggest/point out that "The Ledge" would sound even more jarring/out of place if it was sequenced into any other part of the album. Example- switch it out with "That's Enough For Me", and you'll find the flow is not exactly completely interchangeable.

[Lala]

Chili did.

Michele

Apparently I'm not interested in reading today. Oops!

[Meowi]

I reckon Save Me A Place. How I wish they continued the White Album/Rumours theme :(

[holidayroad]

Maybe it's because I didn't hear the complete Tusk album until 1988 or because I'm such a total fan of Lindsey, but I don't really think the album is that far out there. Yes, it is different than Rumours, but it's not completely away from a soft rock sound.

[holidayroad]

I reckon Save Me A Place. How I wish they continued the White Album/Rumours theme :(

'Save Me a Place' was the only song I wish Lindsey had never done. I have no idea why he thought it was suitable for any album.

[louielouie2000]

Well, one of the strangest things about Tusk its track sequencing. I'm not sure how the songs could have been rearranged to make a more "logical flow" from one track to the next--and I'm not sure such a flow would be desirable. But I do know nothing is stranger than hearing "Over and Over"--a pleasant, glossy, easy-listening tune--followed by "The Ledge", which is one of the most weirdly-arranged/performed songs in rock-n-roll. The juxtaposition of those two tracks at the album's outset seems to encapsulate the spirit of the entire project: two bands working in one, chafing against one another and each benefitting from the other's presence.

Oh Lord, that's nothing compared to Sara being followed by What Makes You Think You're The One :laugh:. I kinda think the transition from Over And Over to The Ledge is kinda fun. That transition is kinda like, "ok... this is going to be a fun ride." I still find Sara->What Makes You Think You're The One jarring and obnoxious... because Sara totally blisses you out, sends you off into dreamland, and then WHAM! you're slapped out of it :laugh:. But I guess that's part of what makes Tusk, Tusk.

[louielouie2000]

'Save Me a Place' was the only song I wish Lindsey had never done. I have no idea why he thought it was suitable for any album.

I was of this train of thought until I watched the Tusk Documentary. The way Lindsey sang and performed the song in the studio versions was just so great! I kinda hate what it morphed into. The way Lindsey has been performing the song on his solo tours lately has made up for it though. :D

[Sleepless-Child]

I'd say The Ledge too.

'Save Me a Place' was the only song I wish Lindsey had never done. I have no idea why he thought it was suitable for any album.

I don't understand, it's such a beautiful song :shrug:

[EnchantedKiwi]

I'd say The Ledge too.



I don't understand, it's such a beautiful song :shrug:

It just sounds like someone complaining annoyingly :laugh:

[Sleepless-Child]

It just sounds like someone complaining annoyingly


:laugh: Ok, maybe a little, but I like complaining too, so It sounds great to me :D. Seriously, am I the only one who loves that song ?!

[Nico]

'Save Me a Place' was the only song I wish Lindsey had never done. I have no idea why he thought it was suitable for any album.

No you didn't say that. Oh, woe is me. :shocked: That's OK. I will respect your completely entitled opinion, even if totally disagree and think it's one of LB's most beautiful songs.

Do you at least like the live version?

[GypsySorcerer]

'Save Me a Place' was the only song I wish Lindsey had never done. I have no idea why he thought it was suitable for any album.

Blasphemy! ;)

SMAP is gorgeous to me....that aching, sense of yearning.

To answer the original question:
WMYTYTO
Not That Funny

[Sahara]

This thread title just made me laugh out loud. 'Frightened' is the word!

I think The Ledge is probably the weirdest one on there. Tusk itself is very odd, but we're all so used to it now that it doesn't stand out so much.

It took me a long time to appreciate Lindsey's songs on Tusk, it's only now that I'm really rediscovering them. Loving it :D

[holidayroad]

I'd say The Ledge too.



I don't understand, it's such a beautiful song :shrug:

The words are great, but something in the music...too slow, out of tune...I don't know! It's the only song of Lindsey's that I dislike!

[holidayroad]

Blasphemy! ;)

SMAP is gorgeous to me....that aching, sense of yearning.

To answer the original question:
WMYTYTO
Not That Funny

Sorry!:o I certainly have tried to make myself like the song as it appears on the album, tried to find something in it I missed before, but it never sounds much better. I agree that the version I heard on the Tusk documentary is Far better!

[holidayroad]

No you didn't say that. Oh, woe is me. :shocked: That's OK. I will respect your completely entitled opinion, even if totally disagree and think it's one of LB's most beautiful songs.

Do you at least like the live version?

The live version is much better!! All I can say is that at least it is the only song of Lindsey's that I can say anything bad about!!

[fleetwoodguy79]

I vote for "The Ledge". Only due to the fact that it's the second song on the album.

After "Over and Over", which is a typical subdued and crisp Christine McVie tune, anyone listening to the album has to go "W..T...F... is this??". Perhaps Lindsey was going for shock value!

[michelej1]

I vote for "The Ledge". Only due to the fact that it's the second song on the album.

After "Over and Over", which is a typical subdued and crisp Christine McVie tune, anyone listening to the album has to go "W..T...F... is this??". Perhaps Lindsey was going for shock value!

Hmmm. That's interesting, when I make a comparison and consider that Time Precious Time is the second song on GOS. While TPT is not shocking, it does take the album on an abrupt turn from the opening song. Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy segue.

Michele

[MoonWaterPoet]

The Ledge
Not That Funny
What Makes You Think You're The One


Those are my exact picks also... ;)


Donnie Wayne ~

[Black_Moon]

I'd say The Ledge. If Lindsey was bitter on Rumours, he's falling apart by Tusk.

I like the sequencing of Tusk, it makes things interesting. Sure, it could be ordered logically but then the listener would slip straight into the music and find it an easy listening experience. Which, was the thing Lindsey probably tried the most to avoid.

[StandbackStevie]

The only song I think would be for me with lindsey from tusk that the executives might have went what?? on is.

Not That Funny

[goldustsongbird]

The only song I think would be for me with lindsey from tusk that the executives might have went what?? on is.

Not That Funny

If the album version didn't scare them, I'm sure they needed an extra pair of pants after seeing it on the Mirage tour.

[HomerMcvie]

If the album version didn't scare them, I'm sure they needed an extra pair of pants after seeing it on the Mirage tour.

All that f*cking screaming! WTF was he on? Sweet baby Jebus!!!! Oooh oooh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Lindsey, stfu!!!


I'll bet NTF is the reason Mirage hasn't been re-released on video! :p

[AliceLover]

Save me a Place, The Ledge, and Walk a Thin Line frightened them. Honey Hi and Never Forget made them vomit.

[Black_Moon]

Save me a Place, The Ledge, and Walk a Thin Line frightened them. Honey Hi and Never Forget made them vomit.

:lol:

The only qualm I have with Tusk (after all it is perfect) and it's minor, is that I wish Never Forget wasn't the last song. I don't want the album to end on such a calm, lovey note. I wish That's All For Everyone was the closing track.

[Meowi]

I tell you what's scary:
Lindsey's rendition of Never going back again on the Making Of Rumours

[goldustsongbird]

All that f*cking screaming! WTF was he on? Sweet baby Jebus!!!! Oooh oooh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Lindsey, stfu!!!


I'll bet NTF is the reason Mirage hasn't been re-released on video! :p

I used to think it was hot. :o :rolleyes: Then something clicked and I was like, um. stfu. But I do enjoy him and John sharing a joint while jamming!

I tell you what's scary:
Lindsey's rendition of Never going back again on the Making Of Rumours

unnnnggg-BEEEN DOOOOOWN ONE TIIIIIUMMMMM
ngggggg BEEN DOWN TWOOO TIIIIIIUM
NGGBUGHJDhfkl THREE TIIIIIUUUUM

That's what I heard, anyway. ;)

[aleuzzi]

Honey Hi and Never Forget made them vomit.

Doubt it...

[belladonnadream]

The Ledge......

[dnightshade]

Tusk, believe me.

[chiliD]

Well, one of the strangest things about Tusk its track sequencing. I'm not sure how the songs could have been rearranged to make a more "logical flow" from one track to the next--and I'm not sure such a flow would be desirable. But I do know nothing is stranger than hearing "Over and Over"--a pleasant, glossy, easy-listening tune--followed by "The Ledge", which is one of the most weirdly-arranged/performed songs in rock-n-roll. The juxtaposition of those two tracks at the album's outset seems to encapsulate the spirit of the entire project: two bands working in one, chafing against one another and each benefitting from the other's presence.

Oh Lord, that's nothing compared to Sara being followed by What Makes You Think You're The One :laugh:. I kinda think the transition from Over And Over to The Ledge is kinda fun. That transition is kinda like, "ok... this is going to be a fun ride." I still find Sara->What Makes You Think You're The One jarring and obnoxious... because Sara totally blisses you out, sends you off into dreamland, and then WHAM! you're slapped out of it :laugh:. But I guess that's part of what makes Tusk, Tusk.

"Over & Over" is, by far, the worst opening song on any album (not just Fleetwood Mac)...it should've ENDED one of the sides of the LP. THAT was the first INSANE thing about Tusk. Not having a Christine song on Side 2 was next. From day 2 of owning the album, I was busy planning my cassette version with a better (and more SANE) running order.

Louie, the "Sara" to "WMYTYTO" transition wasn't quite as shocking when the album first came out, due to it being an LP and since "Sara" ended side 1, the time it took to turn the record over lessened the "WHAM!" effect of "WMYTYTO"...granted once it came out on CD, that was definitely inhanced quite a bit.

[Sleepless-Child]

I tell you what's scary:
Lindsey's rendition of Never going back again on the Making Of Rumours

:shocked: Never heard that. Where can I find this ?

[Meowi]

:shocked: Never heard that. Where can I find this ?

I thinks on the Classic Albums - Rumours.
But any way, he was going all over top (as he does) :lol:

[aleuzzi]

"Over & Over" is, by far, the worst opening song on any album (not just Fleetwood Mac)...it should've ENDED one of the sides of the LP. THAT was the first INSANE thing about Tusk. Not having a Christine song on Side 2 was next. From day 2 of owning the album, I was busy planning my cassette version with a better (and more SANE) running order.

I can't disagree here on either counts. But this makes me wonder: which song should have opened the record? I've never been able to figure out a good lead track. Possibly the title tune. Possibly "Never Forget." Possibly "Sisters."

Anybody have any thoughts?

[Neb-Maat-Re]

Not sure it about frightening anyone, but what became The Ledge should have been the chorus of That's Enough For Me.

[HejiraNYC]

"Over & Over" is, by far, the worst opening song on any album (not just Fleetwood Mac)...it should've ENDED one of the sides of the LP. THAT was the first INSANE thing about Tusk. Not having a Christine song on Side 2 was next. From day 2 of owning the album, I was busy planning my cassette version with a better (and more SANE) running order.



Gosh, I'm not sure we're even the same species! I don't think it's possible for me to disagree with you more- "Over and Over" is the perfect song to open the album. It's a beautiful morning-after-the-party song in which you just lay there, squinting at the morning sun, while trying to remember what just transpired the night before- which is kind of where FM was in their career now that the whole Rumours sensation was starting to ebb. It's sobering, reflective, resigned, and it heralded an ambitious, sprawling, dark album that was anything but sunny California pop anthems. It was such a radical departure from anything that appeared on Rumours, and it needed to be. If I had to name only one quintessential Tusk song that fully captures the spirit of the album, this would be it.

[Sleepless-Child]

I thinks on the Classic Albums - Rumours.
But any way, he was going all over top (as he does)


:laugh:. I love Lindsey when he goes crazy. Thanks a lot, I'm gonna try to find this :D

[WarmSir3]

Tusk is still one of the strangest songs I've heard to date!

[jbrownsjr]

Gosh, I'm not sure we're even the same species! I don't think it's possible for me to disagree with you more- "Over and Over" is the perfect song to open the album. It's a beautiful morning-after-the-party song in which you just lay there, squinting at the morning sun, while trying to remember what just transpired the night before- which is kind of where FM was in their career now that the whole Rumours sensation was starting to ebb. It's sobering, reflective, resigned, and it heralded an ambitious, sprawling, dark album that was anything but sunny California pop anthems. It was such a radical departure from anything that appeared on Rumours, and it needed to be. If I had to name only one quintessential Tusk song that fully captures the spirit of the album, this would be it.

Wow I think you may have just changed my mind.. and that's really hard to do... Cos I've been in the Chili camp on that one for a long time... Or maybe I've just become a lame ass spineless terd...

Nevertheless, that was so amazingly descriptive... I think I'm buyin it..

[chiliD]

Gosh, I'm not sure we're even the same species! I don't think it's possible for me to disagree with you more- "Over and Over" is the perfect song to open the album. It's a beautiful morning-after-the-party song in which you just lay there, squinting at the morning sun, while trying to remember what just transpired the night before- which is kind of where FM was in their career now that the whole Rumours sensation was starting to ebb. It's sobering, reflective, resigned, and it heralded an ambitious, sprawling, dark album that was anything but sunny California pop anthems. It was such a radical departure from anything that appeared on Rumours, and it needed to be. If I had to name only one quintessential Tusk song that fully captures the spirit of the album, this would be it.


Are you kidding me with that crap? What were you injecting at that party, black ice? heroin? Holy schmolly...the opening number on an album is there to grab your attention, to make you desire to hear the rest of the album. "Over & Over"'s funeral dirge-ness, as well as its length just made me want to sit in the tub & slit my wrist before the song ended rather than listen to the rest of side 1, much less the other 3 sides of the album. Place it at the end of one of the sides and, "Damn, I can't wait to turn the platter over and get to the rest of the album."

My first listen I had to get all the way to "Think About Me" before I could get to a song I could listen through all the way.

Cos I've been in the Chili camp on that one for a long time... Or maybe I've just become a lame ass spineless terd....

{bites tongue}

[jbrownsjr]

{bites tongue}

No I still get it... just playin a little...