Christine's songs pre Buckingham-Nicks

[Andy Man]

Is there anybody here who prefers Christine's FM songs that she wrote before BN joined the band? Think about it, we have Why, Spare Me A Little, Come A Little Bit Closer, Remember Me, etc. a TON of great songs. Not to say that I don't like her work with BN...so many classics of hers. But I find that I find her pre BN songs just as good (some, if not better). I also wished that some of those songs were used on the FM, Rumours and Tusk albums. Watching her perform some of those songs with BN in the 1975-76 era really made me think they'd fit the rumours line up quite nicely.

[chriskisn]

Is there anybody here who prefers Christine's FM songs that she wrote before BN joined the band? Think about it, we have Why, Spare Me A Little, Come A Little Bit Closer, Remember Me, etc. a TON of great songs. Not to say that I don't like her work with BN...so many classics of hers. But I find that I find her pre BN songs just as good (some, if not better). I also wished that some of those songs were used on the FM, Rumours and Tusk albums. Watching her perform some of those songs with BN in the 1975-76 era really made me think they'd fit the rumours line up quite nicely.

Ah you mean a comparison between pre-sugary sweet pop crap or sugary sweet pop crap? (oops I know I shouldn't annoy the Christine fans as this is the Christine forum).

With a couple of exceptions I'd take her pre-BN stuff any day. It was real music without the sweetness. ;)

[Gailh]

I think her songwriting got stronger as she got more experienced,

some of the pre BN stuff was great - Why for example and some of it would have benefited from better production - her stuff on Penguin for example.

Gail

[Gailh]

Ah you mean a comparison between pre-sugary sweet pop crap or sugary sweet pop crap? (oops I know I shouldn't annoy the Christine fans as this is the Christine forum).

With a couple of exceptions I'd take her pre-BN stuff any day. It was real music without the sweetness. ;)

I take it you're not much of a Christine fan then?

Gail

[chriskisn]

I think her songwriting got stronger as she got more experienced,

some of the pre BN stuff was great - Why for example and some of it would have benefited from better production - her stuff on Penguin for example.

Gail

In my opinion though, the very thing that made her pre-BN stuff better was that lack of over-production

[Gailh]

In my opinion though, the very thing that made her pre-BN stuff better was that lack of over-production

I think thr songs themselves on Penguin were good but with a Rumours era production they could have been better

Gail

[David]

Is there anybody here who prefers Christine's FM songs that she wrote before BN joined the band? No, but I prefer her pre-1983 songs to her post-1983 songs, as a whole.

If I made a list of my favorite Chris McVie songs & tracks, it probably wouldn't contain more than one or two from 1984 to 2009. Most of the list would comprise songs from 1969 to 1982.

[chriskisn]

I take it you're not much of a Christine fan then?

Gail

Hmm...not really...but don't worry I'm not much of a Lindsey fan either :lol:

The older I get the more I prefer the two non-Rumours eras :shrug:

[chiliD]

Hmm...not really...but don't worry I'm not much of a Lindsey fan either :lol:

The older I get the more I prefer the two non-Rumours eras :shrug:

Hmmmm...I actually count SIX non-Rumours eras: :shrug:

1967-70
1971-72
1973-74
1987-90
1994-95
2003-present



ON TOPIC: Oh, yes, I MUCH prefer her pre-Rumours material....especially the Penguin through Heroes Are Hard To Find material.

[holidayroad]

I love so much of Christine's pre '75 work!! I have to say that there are very few songs I dislike of Christine's and, in my opinion, she was just as on top of her game in songs before '75 as she was in the songs after. I especially enjoy her songs from Heroes Are Hard To Find. She was always a star to me!!

[chriskisn]

Hmmmm...I actually count SIX non-Rumours eras: :shrug:

1967-70
1971-72
1973-74
1987-90
1994-95
2003-present


1973-74
1987-90

If you want to be specific ;)

[nicepace]

I tend to prefer her songs from 1971-74 because of the prominent keyboards in those songs, especially those fabulous electric pianos. Once you get into the '80s style production the keyboards largely get overlooked. It's my opinion that songs like "Everywhere" and "Little Lies" would sound much better if they were recorded with the sorts of instrumentation used for songs like "Morning Rain" or "Dissatisfied" (to name a couple of examples).

[aleuzzi]

In my opinion though, the very thing that made her pre-BN stuff better was that lack of over-production

This observation is only partially accurate, I think. Many of her songs on Mystery and Heroes are thickly produced, whereas her songs on Fleetwood Mac (1975) and Tusk are spare, sometimes even skeletal.

It's true that Lindsey and Chris go in for big production, however, on Mirage and Tango. But even then, the production choices seem more rewarding than the over-the-top sickly string arrangements on Come a Little Bit Closer and the horns from Heroes.

[aleuzzi]

No, but I prefer her pre-1983 songs to her post-1983 songs, as a whole.

If I made a list of my favorite Chris McVie songs & tracks, it probably wouldn't contain more than one or two from 1984 to 2009. Most of the list would comprise songs from 1969 to 1982.

I would have agreed with this entirely, except for the introduction of ITM in 2004, which feature some of her best performances since 1979...

[seekerj]

For the most part, I would have to say I agree that Christine's songs got better after Buckingham Nicks joined,

BUT

I think "Why" is one of the most perfect (excuse the pun) songs I've ever heard in my life.

[louielouie2000]

I don't know if her pre '75 songs were better, but I sure seem to prefer them. She seemed to have more soul... and was definitely more mystical. I think she gave up that part of herself when Buckingham-Nicks joined. She just became too polished after '75 too.

Here are some of my all time favs, in no particular order:

Why
Prove Your Love
Did You Ever Love Me
Remember Me
Dissatisfied

[PenguinHead]

I like Christine's songs from all versions of Fleetwood Mac. But what I really like is how -- in the 1975-1977 era -- her older songs were performed live when they got the "Buckingham/Nicks" treatment.

I love hearing how they performed:
Get Like You Used To Be
Why
Believe Me
Spare Me A Little

I can only speculate what many of her other older songs would have sounded like if re-interpreted by the Rumours era line up.

[PenguinHead]

I think thr songs themselves on Penguin were good but with a Rumours era production they could have been better

Gail

Wow...that would require a very sophisticated time warp machine.

Once I compiled all her pre-rumours band songs for a friend, and she loved it. I did too. It was like a great Christine McVie album that never was.

[nicepace]

Once I compiled all her pre-rumours band songs for a friend, and she loved it. I did too. It was like a great Christine McVie album that never was.

I have that album too. I agree, it's a great one. Did you burn the songs in chronological order, or make an attempt to "sequence" it, the way a real record might be sequenced?

[jbrownsjr]

I don't think I've ever heard Believe Me in 1975-1977... is there such a thing?

[David]

I don't think I've ever heard Believe Me in 1975-1977... is there such a thing?Check out your rumours tour rehearsal stuff, you ol' git.

[jbrownsjr]

Check out your rumours tour rehearsal stuff, you ol' git.

Why David, that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me:o

[vermicious knid]

Once I compiled all her pre-rumours band songs for a friend

The other week, I went to iTunes, to see about doing just this. Well, they basically have none of them!!! I literally found zero pre-BN songs. Fie!

[jbrownsjr]

The other week, I went to iTunes, to see about doing just this. Well, they basically have none of them!!! I literally found zero pre-BN songs. Fie!

Doesn't surprise me..

[jaycee]

Ah you mean a comparison between pre-sugary sweet pop crap or sugary sweet pop crap? (oops I know I shouldn't annoy the Christine fans as this is the Christine forum).

With a couple of exceptions I'd take her pre-BN stuff any day. It was real music without the sweetness. ;)

Wait a moment... aren't you the person that tried to justify Time as being a good album?
:laugh: Admittedly I can't comment on Time, as I've never listened to it, but I'll still say that your opinion is completely invalid and worthless. :lol:
Harmless (I assume) joking aside, I've only heard a few songs of Christine's from pre-Rumours on Selections From 25 Years - The Chain, but they're certainly beautiful! But more than from the Rumours era? I need more evidence... fortunately, Mystery To Me and Heroes Are Hard To Find are making their way over to me from the UK soon, which is a start...