View Full Version : Name ONE song by Christine you really can't stand
vivfox
11-24-2009, 12:31 AM
The only song by Chris I really don't like is Never Make Me Cry.
AncientQueen
11-24-2009, 01:15 AM
Mystified.
vivfox
11-24-2009, 01:26 AM
Mystified.
I absolutely LOVE this song!!! So many fans don't like it for reasons I'll never fathom.
Gailh
11-24-2009, 03:47 AM
Honey Hi
I find the lyrics very lazy
Gail
chriskisn
11-24-2009, 04:38 AM
Oh so many to choose from.... :laugh:
Despite its acclaim, I really don't like "I'd Rather Go Blind"...
HejiraNYC
11-24-2009, 06:19 AM
Mystified.
Werd on that bird! :eek:
paleshadow
11-24-2009, 08:23 AM
Hollywood (some other kind of town). To me it sounds like the theme song to some cheesy 80's sitcom.
Gailh
11-24-2009, 08:26 AM
Hollywood (some other kind of town). To me it sounds like the theme song to some cheesy 80's sitcom.
I actually really like that - good job we're not all the same isn't it?
Gail
vivfox
11-24-2009, 09:32 AM
Honey Hi
I find the lyrics very lazy
Gail
OMG I love this song. So lush and so dreamy.
HejiraNYC
11-24-2009, 09:54 AM
Actually I can think of a number of Christine songs that stunk up the joint:
"Prove Your Love"
"Bad Loser"
"Come a Little Closer"
"Mystified"
"When You Say"
I guess you can say that I'm not a particularly big fan of Heroes Are Hard to Find and its boom-chicka-wah-wah sound. Admittedly, 1974 was a horrible year for music, so HAHtF is pretty much an artifact of its time. In hindsight, you can see easily that Bob Welch and Christine were kind of running on fumes creatively at this point.
jbrownsjr
11-24-2009, 11:54 AM
Temporary One...
Gailh
11-24-2009, 02:20 PM
Temporary One...
Where are you jbrownsjr when my moon is rising and your sun is shining down?
Clearly not listening to Temporary One
Gail
chiliD
11-24-2009, 02:38 PM
Actually In hindsight, you can see easily that Bob Welch and Christine were kind of running on fumes creatively at this point.
I couldn't disagree with you any more....I think Heroes... is a GREAT album. Sure, the album was done under "duress", but in spite of it, they came up with great material.
So, did you make your "'74 was a horrible year for music" comment out of personal experience? Or from hindsight of just listening to music from that year? Again, I seriously disagree with your opinion on that.
Matthew
11-24-2009, 03:04 PM
I really don´t know all her pre-Rumours songs. I think that my the least favourite would be some song from this era (I know albums only from ´72-´74). But I like her songs there, because these aren´t so blues, like in ´69-´72. It´s hard to say which song I like the least... maybe Mystified too. I don´t know why too, there isn´t anything interesting for me... just boring song... and Only Over You isn´t so good either.
That´s not good topic, let´s talk about our most favourite songs:).
GypsySorcerer
11-24-2009, 03:17 PM
"Only Over You" and "One More Night" are the two I can't stand.
I actually like several of the others mentioned "Honey Hi," "Never Make Me Cry," and "Mystified."
HejiraNYC
11-24-2009, 03:36 PM
I couldn't disagree with you any more....I think Heroes... is a GREAT album. Sure, the album was done under "duress", but in spite of it, they came up with great material.
So, did you make your "'74 was a horrible year for music" comment out of personal experience? Or from hindsight of just listening to music from that year? Again, I seriously disagree with your opinion on that.
Yes, I suppose they did the best they could under the circumstances... but the album is a mess. It is easily Christine's weakest collection of songs for an album. This album is full of the kind of filler you would normally put in amongst better quality filler. And "Safe Harbour" has easily got to be the must unnecessary, perfunctory two-chord piece of crap ever to receive the "Fleetwood Mac" label. And WTF is up with the sound quality of this recording? It sounds like it was recorded in a vat of molasses.
Regarding the year 1974, I really can't come up with any landmark albums that came out that year. Even the Rolling Stones, The Who and Led Zeppelin sat out that year. Bob Dylan released a meh album that year. Queen, Neil Young and Yes also released meh albums too. And that's when Paul McCartney started to suck badly. All of the great bands that emerged in the sixties were still in transition to either becoming seventies burnouts or bad parodies of themselves. 1974 was a bit after hippie flower power died out, but a little bit early for punk and the second British Invasion. Classic middle child syndrome.
Just about the only decent album I can think of from 1974 is Joni Mitchell's Court and Spark, which is still a ridiculously overrated album for what it was. Yes, it's notable for being Joni's breakthrough in the jazz-pop realm, but it's certainly not her best collection of songs- that would be 1975's Hissing of Summer Lawns.
nailatixela
11-24-2009, 03:39 PM
My least favorite Chris song is easily "So Excited" I pretty much hate it, an I can't say that about any others.
David
11-24-2009, 04:39 PM
I agree with the person who cited "Hollywood" as a cheesy '80s sitcom theme.
I am no longer friends with jbrownsjr, who cited the great "Temporary One" as a loser.
jbrownsjr
11-24-2009, 04:41 PM
Where are you jbrownsjr when my moon is rising and your sun is shining down?
Clearly not listening to Temporary One
Gail
The title and the vocal line are sooooooooooo boring...
jbrownsjr
11-24-2009, 04:43 PM
I agree with the person who cited "Hollywood" as a cheesy '80s sitcom theme.
I am no longer friends with jbrownsjr, who cited the great "Temporary One" as a loser.
you mean "the great jbrownsjr" and the bland Temporary One...
beside it doesn't fall into your little 1967-1982 box... so in theory you don't care for it either...
:shocked::lol::):woohoo::thumbsup::eek::cool::]:p:shrug:
michelej1
11-24-2009, 04:52 PM
I love Mystified.
Hollywood is my favorite song on the album. I like that song better than Nights in Estoril:shocked:.
I like So Excited, but recognize it for what it is. I consider it my guilty pleasure.
Think About Me is my favorite Christine song on the album, but Honey Hi comes in second. I wish there had been some way to get her and Mick centerstage together with the other players almost in shadow and the drummer and singer could have done this little treasure intimately, almost as a duet. The fact that the words are so sparse and basic seems to make the simple message penetrate more, the rhythmic beat tapping feelings that dwell beyond the grasp of words. Actually, it reminds me of a calypso or reggae song, in that sense.
I have to say that the songs I dislike aren't necessarily bad songs. I just grew wary of them due to the repetition. Oh Daddy, for example. If that song had gone away and left me in peace, I would never think to disparage it, as I never really have a bad word to say about Sugar Daddy. But unlike the reclusive Sugar, Oh followed me around and stalked me for decades, 'til I just feel: yuck.
Michele
jbrownsjr
11-24-2009, 05:23 PM
I love love love Sooner or Later from Time...
wow!!
wish Mick would have done a better job on the drum solo at towards the outro....
he could have really ended that one with a bigger splash...
chiliD
11-24-2009, 06:07 PM
Yes, I suppose they did the best they could under the circumstances... but the album is a mess. It is easily Christine's weakest collection of songs for an album. This album is full of the kind of filler you would normally put in amongst better quality filler. And "Safe Harbour" has easily got to be the must unnecessary, perfunctory two-chord piece of crap ever to receive the "Fleetwood Mac" label. And WTF is up with the sound quality of this recording? It sounds like it was recorded in a vat of molasses.
Ok...I see that we're not even in the same universe regarding Heroes..., so it's best we just "agree to disagree"...:thumbsup:
Regarding the year 1974, I really can't come up with any landmark albums that came out that year. Even the Rolling Stones, The Who and Led Zeppelin sat out that year. Bob Dylan released a meh album that year. Queen, Neil Young and Yes also released meh albums too. And that's when Paul McCartney started to suck badly. All of the great bands that emerged in the sixties were still in transition to either becoming seventies burnouts or bad parodies of themselves. 1974 was a bit after hippie flower power died out, but a little bit early for punk and the second British Invasion. Classic middle child syndrome.
Just about the only decent album I can think of from 1974 is Joni Mitchell's Court and Spark, which is still a ridiculously overrated album for what it was. Yes, it's notable for being Joni's breakthrough in the jazz-pop realm, but it's certainly not her best collection of songs- that would be 1975's Hissing of Summer Lawns.
Again, we're not ever going to be in the same ballpark on '74, either (and especially in regards to your inflammatory remark about Sir Paul!! :eek: ). Thought we might have a meeting point with Joni and Court & Spark , but you shot that down before the sentence was finished. :cool: Nope, the Stones released It's Only Rock & Roll in '74, Zeppelin didn't release anything because they were touring the world in '74, Deep Purple was prolific that year with Burn AND Stormbringer...John Lennon released Walls & Bridges....and Dylan?
Again I ask: Were you even THERE in '74 or are you looking back on the year as some "historical reference point"? Because some of your comments really don't seem to come from a place of somebody who LIVED in that era...that they're from somebody looking back on a time before their own.
I graduated HS in '73, so that whole 1973-76 span just blends into one big blob of time for me (even moreso the longer time passes)...I don't really even count individual years in that era...for me, that was MY era musically
PERSONAL "Landmark" albums of that era 73-76 (if my chronology is correct):
Paul McCartney/Wings - Band On The Run
Paul McCartney/Wings - Venus & Mars
John Lennon - Mind Games
John Lennon - Walls & Bridges
George Harrison - Dark Horse
Ringo Starr - Ringo
Ringo Starr - Goonight Vienna
Fleetwood Mac - Penguin
Fleetwood Mac - Mystery To Me
Fleetwood Mac - Heroes Are Hard To Find
Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac
Buckingham Nicks
Deep Purple - Burn
Deep Purple - Who Do We Think We Are?
Deep Purple - Stormbringer
Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
Steely Dan - Katy Lied
Steely Dan - Royal Scam
CSNY - Four Way Street
Eric Clapton - 461 Ocean Blvd
The Who - Who By Numbers
Rolling Stones - It's Only Rock & Roll
Rolling Stones - Goat's Head Soup
Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies
Alice Cooper - Muscle Of Love
Led Zeppelin - Houses Of The Holy
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffitti
Bob Dylan - Planet Waves
Bob Dylan - Before The Flood
Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks
Leon Russell - Leon Live
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Welcome Back My Friends...
Poco - Crazy Eyes
Poco - Cantamos
Eagles - Desperado
Eagles - On The Border
Eagles - One Of These Nights
And, more that I don't have time to list. To me, those early/mid 70's were a "cup runneth over" with great music...'74 being right there in the middle of it all.
jbrownsjr
11-24-2009, 06:33 PM
Yes, I suppose they did the best they could under the circumstances... but the album is a mess. It is easily Christine's weakest collection of songs for an album. This album is full of the kind of filler you would normally put in amongst better quality filler. And "Safe Harbour" has easily got to be the must unnecessary, perfunctory two-chord piece of crap ever to receive the "Fleetwood Mac" label. And WTF is up with the sound quality of this recording? It sounds like it was recorded in a vat of molasses.
Regarding the year 1974, I really can't come up with any landmark albums that came out that year. Even the Rolling Stones, The Who and Led Zeppelin sat out that year. Bob Dylan released a meh album that year. Queen, Neil Young and Yes also released meh albums too. And that's when Paul McCartney started to suck badly. All of the great bands that emerged in the sixties were still in transition to either becoming seventies burnouts or bad parodies of themselves. 1974 was a bit after hippie flower power died out, but a little bit early for punk and the second British Invasion. Classic middle child syndrome.
Just about the only decent album I can think of from 1974 is Joni Mitchell's Court and Spark, which is still a ridiculously overrated album for what it was. Yes, it's notable for being Joni's breakthrough in the jazz-pop realm, but it's certainly not her best collection of songs- that would be 1975's Hissing of Summer Lawns.
While I agree Hissing of Summer Lawns could arguably be the best album from the decade... Court and Spark albeit more pop... it's still crisp and off the charts in creativity and sound.. tell me you don't get goosebumps while singing "breaking like the waves of malibuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu... "
chriskisn
11-24-2009, 07:24 PM
Bob Dylan released a meh album that year.
and then
....and Dylan?
Hmm...I was just thinking that too chiliD! Ok so Planet Waves has a few not so great songs but Before The Flood Was Great...
Plus Planet Waves had Forever Young and The Wedding Song (which I had at my own wedding ceremony).
holidayroad
11-24-2009, 10:17 PM
My least favorite Chris song is easily "So Excited" I pretty much hate it, an I can't say that about any others.
This is also the one I dislike! (Pretty much the only one!)
holidayroad
11-24-2009, 10:18 PM
I love love love Sooner or Later from Time...
wow!!
wish Mick would have done a better job on the drum solo at towards the outro....
he could have really ended that one with a bigger splash...
'Sooner Or Later' was the definite standout on that album!!
HejiraNYC
11-24-2009, 10:35 PM
Again I ask: Were you even THERE in '74 or are you looking back on the year as some "historical reference point"? Because some of your comments really don't seem to come from a place of somebody who LIVED in that era...that they're from somebody looking back on a time before their own.
I graduated HS in '73, so that whole 1973-76 span just blends into one big blob of time for me (even moreso the longer time passes)...I don't really even count individual years in that era...for me, that was MY era musically
PERSONAL "Landmark" albums of that era 73-76 (if my chronology is correct):
Paul McCartney/Wings - Band On The Run
Paul McCartney/Wings - Venus & Mars
John Lennon - Mind Games
John Lennon - Walls & Bridges
George Harrison - Dark Horse
Ringo Starr - Ringo
Ringo Starr - Goonight Vienna
Fleetwood Mac - Penguin
Fleetwood Mac - Mystery To Me
Fleetwood Mac - Heroes Are Hard To Find
Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac
Buckingham Nicks
Deep Purple - Burn
Deep Purple - Who Do We Think We Are?
Deep Purple - Stormbringer
Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
Steely Dan - Katy Lied
Steely Dan - Royal Scam
CSNY - Four Way Street
Eric Clapton - 461 Ocean Blvd
The Who - Who By Numbers
Rolling Stones - It's Only Rock & Roll
Rolling Stones - Goat's Head Soup
Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies
Alice Cooper - Muscle Of Love
Led Zeppelin - Houses Of The Holy
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffitti
Bob Dylan - Planet Waves
Bob Dylan - Before The Flood
Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks
Leon Russell - Leon Live
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Welcome Back My Friends...
Poco - Crazy Eyes
Poco - Cantamos
Eagles - Desperado
Eagles - On The Border
Eagles - One Of These Nights
And, more that I don't have time to list. To me, those early/mid 70's were a "cup runneth over" with great music...'74 being right there in the middle of it all.
Well, as someone who experienced the music of 1973-76 as a big "blob," I would like to bring the topic back to 1974 specifically. Other than Joni, I can't think of any "classic" albums from this year. There were many amazing albums released in 1973, 1975 and 1976, but I'm singling out 1974 as being particularly weak.
And for what it's worth, I was alive, albeit very young. But even still, AM radio was definitely a part of my daily life from early on, so, yes, I did experience this year firsthand.
HejiraNYC
11-24-2009, 10:46 PM
While I agree Hissing of Summer Lawns could arguably be the best album from the decade... Court and Spark albeit more pop... it's still crisp and off the charts in creativity and sound.. tell me you don't get goosebumps while singing "breaking like the waves of malibuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu... "
Don't get me wrong- CaS is a great album, but it's far from being at the very top of Joni's oeuvre. Unfortunately, Joni sets such a high bar that I think CaS is rather middling for her. While she stretches creatively, and there are some great songs on there, e.g., "Free Man in Paris," she seems to be trying too hard to throw everything out there; it's a bit schizophrenic and is really lacking cohesion. I much prefer the cohesion and heart of albums like Ladies of the Canyon, Hejira and even Turbulent Indigo
michelej1
11-25-2009, 02:30 AM
you mean "the great jbrownsjr" and the bland Temporary One...
beside it doesn't fall into your little 1967-1982 box... so in theory you don't care for it either...
:shocked::lol::):woohoo::thumbsup::eek::cool::]:p:shrug:
Yeah, Temporary One put me to sleep, although I have sentimental feelings for it. I thought they had definitely lost it when I heard Sweet Girl and Temporary One. Luckily, they redeemed themselves collectively, even if on separate albums.
Michele
David
11-25-2009, 10:33 AM
Yeah, Temporary One put me to sleepI'm gonna slug you!
To find equivalent quality in the marriage of text & melodic line in the verses, one would have to go all the way back to "You Make Loving Fun."
Black_Moon
11-25-2009, 11:26 AM
Sugar Daddy is the song I loathe the most by her. All of the other songs you mentioned by her, bar the ones I don't know (Hollywood, and I've never heard Temporary One :eek:) I absolutely adore. I'm not a big fan of her contributions to the epnomymous Fleetwood Mac album, although I find her to be the most consistent member of the band.
I for one love her songs on Heroes are Hard to Find though!
aleuzzi
11-25-2009, 11:30 AM
I'm gonna slug you!
To find equivalent quality in the marriage of text & melodic line in the verses, one would have to go all the way back to "You Make Loving Fun."
I'm with you on this, David. Temporary One is fast, fun, energetic. She and the band sound invigorated while performing it.
But then I also love Honey Hi and Hollywood (though admittedly the tinny keyboards in the latter are regrettable).
When I think of a Christine song I truly dislike, two come to mind: Skies the Limit (which is offensively generic) and Ricky (which thankfully never made it to Tango).
aleuzzi
11-25-2009, 11:31 AM
Sugar Daddy is the song I loathe the most by her.
Sugar Daddy rules. And I will always defend it! En garde!
seekerj
11-25-2009, 11:47 AM
Actually I can think of a number of Christine songs that stunk up the joint:
"Prove Your Love"
"Bad Loser"
"Come a Little Closer"
"Mystified"
"When You Say"
I guess you can say that I'm not a particularly big fan of Heroes Are Hard to Find and its boom-chicka-wah-wah sound. Admittedly, 1974 was a horrible year for music, so HAHtF is pretty much an artifact of its time. In hindsight, you can see easily that Bob Welch and Christine were kind of running on fumes creatively at this point.
ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This statement totally nails it!
I'm gonna be laughing all day!!!!
Thanks for posting that!
nicepace
11-25-2009, 12:04 PM
Count me in the "Heroes is a GREAT album" camp. I just love it. I think Bob and Christine were clicking on all cylinders musically. It's different from what came before, it's fresh, it's exciting. I love Chris' songs on the album especially. I think she was maturing as a songwriter and musician.
In addition to the ones already mentioned, other great albums that came out in 1974 include 'Preservation 2' (Kinks), 'Dragonfly' (Jefferson Starship), 'Sheer Heart Attack' (Queen), and 'Hotcakes' (Carly Simon). However, I think discussion of whether other good music was being released that year is entirely irrelevant to whether 'Heroes' is any good.
As for what song by Christine I can't stand ... I haven't thought of one yet. Some of the ones that some folks have mentioned are among my favorites ... "Hollywood," "Temporary One," "Mystified," "Sugar Daddy"... I just love 'em.
seekerj
11-25-2009, 12:06 PM
Warm Ways
(not horrible, just sooooo boring.... snooze, snooze)
And I don't know, would "You And I Part 2" be considered a Christine song (or a Lindsey song)? That has to be one of the most annoying pieces of dribble I've ever wasted my time listening to (right up there with "Rag Doll" by Aerosmith).
jbrownsjr
11-25-2009, 12:10 PM
I'm gonna slug you!
To find equivalent quality in the marriage of text & melodic line in the verses, one would have to go all the way back to "You Make Loving Fun."
What are you doing, Are you busy with your work?
Well I wish you were busy with mine
vs
I never did believe in the ways of magic
But I'm beginning to wonder why
HomerMcvie
11-25-2009, 12:41 PM
Sugar Daddy rules. And I will always defend it! En garde!
I'll never understand the Sugar Daddy hate! Who cares if the lyrics are a little non-PC. The music is perfekt!
It's always been one of my top ten FM songs.
Street_Dreamer
11-25-2009, 01:33 PM
Mystified.
Technically Mystified is a Lindsey song. He wrote it, most if it anyway, Christine performed it. My choice would either be Sugar Daddy or Temporary One.
Matt
chiliD
11-25-2009, 01:53 PM
The only song I really don't like by Christine (and it wasn't written by Christine, it was written by Danny Kirwan) is "When You Say". Even poor Christine couldn't save this turkey of a song.
HejiraNYC
11-25-2009, 02:45 PM
The only song I really don't like by Christine (and it wasn't written by Christine, it was written by Danny Kirwan) is "When You Say". Even poor Christine couldn't save this turkey of a song.
Finally, something we can agree upon! :nod:
jenniferuk
11-25-2009, 02:56 PM
The only song I really don't like by Christine (and it wasn't written by Christine, it was written by Danny Kirwan) is "When You Say". Even poor Christine couldn't save this turkey of a song.
Good call--that gem gets my vote. I can't listen to it.
Dodfather
11-25-2009, 03:00 PM
Warm Ways
(not horrible, just sooooo boring.... snooze, snooze)
And I don't know, would "You And I Part 2" be considered a Christine song (or a Lindsey song)? That has to be one of the most annoying pieces of dribble I've ever wasted my time listening to (right up there with "Rag Doll" by Aerosmith).
I'm with you on Warm Ways. That's my worst Chris song.
jbrownsjr
11-25-2009, 03:09 PM
I'll never understand the Sugar Daddy hate! Who cares if the lyrics are a little non-PC. The music is perfekt!
It's always been one of my top ten FM songs.
HOMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jbrownsjr
11-25-2009, 03:10 PM
Technically Mystified is a Lindsey song. He wrote it, most if it anyway, Christine performed it. My choice would either be Sugar Daddy or Temporary One.
Matt
No, it's a co-write and both perform on it..
michelej1
11-25-2009, 04:36 PM
I'm gonna slug you!
To find equivalent quality in the marriage of text & melodic line in the verses, one would have to go all the way back to "You Make Loving Fun."
The marriage between text and the melodic line is a bad one. Divorce court.
Now that someone mentioned Ricky, I would have preferred they play that for the Dance than Temporary One. However, I have used the "bridge" lyrics elsewhere and recite them often.
Michele
HomerMcvie
11-25-2009, 05:20 PM
HOMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You wouldn't join The Chain, so what was I gonna do? :shrug:
:lol:
chiliD
11-25-2009, 06:45 PM
The only song I really don't like by Christine (and it wasn't written by Christine, it was written by Danny Kirwan) is "When You Say". Even poor Christine couldn't save this turkey of a song.
Finally, something we can agree upon! :nod:
Well, that and our "undying devotion to Fleetwood Mac"...even though we MOSTLY disagree about what's good & bad about the band. ;) :D But, yeah, finally...some common ground! :thumbsup:
Good call--that gem gets my vote. I can't listen to it.
You'd THINK that Christine would've found a way to make it listenable...but unfortunately, no. It's really HER only glitch tune....as well as Danny's. Of all the songs of his to cover...it's a shame that there's TWO VERSIONS of it to hate. :laugh:
chiliD
11-25-2009, 06:49 PM
Technically Mystified is a Lindsey song. He wrote it, most if it anyway, Christine performed it. My choice would either be Sugar Daddy or Temporary One.
Matt
No, it's a co-write and both perform on it..
Instrumentally, it's too close for comfort to Bob Welch's "Safe Harbour"...like they used it for the basis of "Mystified".
(At least it's a closer comparision than Peter Green's "World Keeps On Turning" & the Buckingham/McVie "World Turning"...even though Mick tried to say that one grew out of the other, in his book)
jbrownsjr
11-25-2009, 07:22 PM
^^^^^^
Hey Chili.. I love the strings on When You Say.. and the la la la's... especially the low ones...
Happy Thanksgiving! :)
vivfox
11-25-2009, 09:27 PM
Warm Ways
(not horrible, just sooooo boring.... snooze, snooze)
And I don't know, would "You And I Part 2" be considered a Christine song (or a Lindsey song)? That has to be one of the most annoying pieces of dribble I've ever wasted my time listening to (right up there with "Rag Doll" by Aerosmith).
Warm Ways is such a beautiful song. Everytime I hear it I feel like I'm wrapped up in a warm blanket on a cold day or lying in a bed of pillows on a comfortable couch.
Hawkeye
11-25-2009, 10:34 PM
Ok...I see that we're not even in the same universe regarding Heroes..., so it's best we just "agree to disagree"...:thumbsup:
Again, we're not ever going to be in the same ballpark on '74, either (and especially in regards to your inflammatory remark about Sir Paul!! :eek: ). Thought we might have a meeting point with Joni and Court & Spark , but you shot that down before the sentence was finished. :cool: Nope, the Stones released It's Only Rock & Roll in '74, Zeppelin didn't release anything because they were touring the world in '74, Deep Purple was prolific that year with Burn AND Stormbringer...John Lennon released Walls & Bridges....and Dylan?
Again I ask: Were you even THERE in '74 or are you looking back on the year as some "historical reference point"? Because some of your comments really don't seem to come from a place of somebody who LIVED in that era...that they're from somebody looking back on a time before their own.
I graduated HS in '73, so that whole 1973-76 span just blends into one big blob of time for me (even moreso the longer time passes)...I don't really even count individual years in that era...for me, that was MY era musically
PERSONAL "Landmark" albums of that era 73-76 (if my chronology is correct):
Paul McCartney/Wings - Band On The Run
Paul McCartney/Wings - Venus & Mars
John Lennon - Mind Games
John Lennon - Walls & Bridges
George Harrison - Dark Horse
Ringo Starr - Ringo
Ringo Starr - Goonight Vienna
Fleetwood Mac - Penguin
Fleetwood Mac - Mystery To Me
Fleetwood Mac - Heroes Are Hard To Find
Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac
Buckingham Nicks
Deep Purple - Burn
Deep Purple - Who Do We Think We Are?
Deep Purple - Stormbringer
Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
Steely Dan - Katy Lied
Steely Dan - Royal Scam
CSNY - Four Way Street
Eric Clapton - 461 Ocean Blvd
The Who - Who By Numbers
Rolling Stones - It's Only Rock & Roll
Rolling Stones - Goat's Head Soup
Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies
Alice Cooper - Muscle Of Love
Led Zeppelin - Houses Of The Holy
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffitti
Bob Dylan - Planet Waves
Bob Dylan - Before The Flood
Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks
Leon Russell - Leon Live
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Welcome Back My Friends...
Poco - Crazy Eyes
Poco - Cantamos
Eagles - Desperado
Eagles - On The Border
Eagles - One Of These Nights
And, more that I don't have time to list. To me, those early/mid 70's were a "cup runneth over" with great music...'74 being right there in the middle of it all.
wheres Neil Young- Tonights the Night in that list. AAnd speaking of NY wasnt Four Way Street way before 1973?
Gailh
11-26-2009, 04:53 AM
I'll never understand the Sugar Daddy hate! Who cares if the lyrics are a little non-PC. The music is perfekt!
It's always been one of my top ten FM songs.
Hi Homie.
Gail
HomerMcvie
11-26-2009, 12:08 PM
Hi Homie.
Gail
Hi Gail, I hope all is well for you. Happy Thanksgiving!
chiliD
11-26-2009, 12:39 PM
wheres Neil Young- Tonights the Night in that list. AAnd speaking of NY wasnt Four Way Street way before 1973?
Did you not read my "And more I don't have time to list" disclaimer? ;) :shrug: :laugh:
And, On The Beach & Times Fades Away would've been in there, too.
Re: 4 Way Street...yeah, probably...I most likely lumped it in that '73-'76 time frame due to that's when I actually BOUGHT the album (finally).
trackaghost
11-26-2009, 02:27 PM
Queen, Neil Young and Yes also released meh albums too.
On The Beach is a meh album? For real? I guess it would be boring if we all liked the same things etc, but that album to me is one of his greatest works. Interestingly, I think, apparently it's one of the highest rated albums of the 1970s on Rate Your Music.
Personally, a few of my all-time favourites came out that year: Big Star's Radio City, Gram Parson's Grievous Angel, Gene Clark's No Other, Dolly Parton's Jolene and those are just off the top of my head.
trackaghost
11-26-2009, 02:29 PM
Re: 4 Way Street...yeah, probably...I most likely lumped it in that '73-'76 time frame due to that's when I actually BOUGHT the album (finally).
4 Way Street is 1971 :)
Adding to your list, apart from the ones I've mentioned in the above post, there was also Richard & Linda Thompson's I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight, Kimono My House by The Sparks, Jackson Browne's Late For The Sky, Future Days by Can, Country Life by Roxy Music, George Jones' The Grand Tour, Brian Eno's Here Come The Warm Jets, Red by King Crimson and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway by Genesis.
I guess it all depends on the kind of music you're into though, but for me 1974 was a very good year in music.
aleuzzi
11-26-2009, 07:43 PM
I'll never understand the Sugar Daddy hate! Who cares if the lyrics are a little non-PC. The music is perfekt!
It's always been one of my top ten FM songs.
I knew I had a compadre...
Hawkeye
11-26-2009, 08:28 PM
Did you not read my "And more I don't have time to list" disclaimer? ;) :shrug: :laugh:
And, On The Beach & Times Fades Away would've been in there, too.
Re: 4 Way Street...yeah, probably...I most likely lumped it in that '73-'76 time frame due to that's when I actually BOUGHT the album (finally).
Well its just I feel Tonights the Night is too good to be in the "and more" section. It's top 5 of all time by any artist for me. On the Beach and Time Fades also awseome but I had to pick my battle and only felt like bitching about TTN All three of those are better then the three Eagles albums you felt compelled to actually list :laugh:
Hawkeye
11-26-2009, 08:30 PM
On The Beach is a meh album? For real? I guess it would be boring if we all liked the same things etc, but that album to me is one of his greatest works. Interestingly, I think, apparently it's one of the highest rated albums of the 1970s on Rate Your Music.
Personally, a few of my all-time favourites came out that year: Big Star's Radio City, Gram Parson's Grievous Angel, Gene Clark's No Other, Dolly Parton's Jolene and those are just off the top of my head.
Revolution Blues is questionably my favorite Neil Young song ever.
goldustsongbird
11-26-2009, 09:51 PM
Hi Homie.
Gail
You mean Homie Hi.
Homie, homieeeeeee, homie, homie. :laugh:
trackaghost
11-26-2009, 10:01 PM
Well its just I feel Tonights the Night is too good to be in the "and more" section. It's top 5 of all time by any artist for me. On the Beach and Time Fades also awseome but I had to pick my battle and only felt like bitching about TTN All three of those are better then the three Eagles albums you felt compelled to actually list :laugh:
The whole ditch trilogy of On The Beach, Tonight's The Night and Time Fades Away are easily my favourite Neil albums. For me those albums epitomise everything great about Neil Young, that's why I was surprised to see On The Beach described as "meh" but, like I said, I guess it's all what you're into. If you're a Harvest fan I guess those are pretty dark albums to get into but I agree with you, they are top five for me too.
Revolution Blues is questionably my favorite Neil Young song ever.
I love it too. I went through a period a few years back of just playing it over and over again, which is pretty depressing in a way considering the subject matter :laugh: But the lyrics are just brilliant. I also love Ambulance Blues, getting to hear him play that live last year brought tears to my eyes, it was so good.
jbrownsjr
11-27-2009, 12:43 AM
You mean Homie Hi.
Homie, homieeeeeee, homie, homie. :laugh:
who could be sweeter than you!!!:D
aleuzzi
11-27-2009, 12:51 AM
O
I graduated HS in '73, so that whole 1973-76 span just blends into one big blob of time for me (even moreso the longer time passes)...I don't really even count individual years in that era...for me, that was MY era musically
PERSONAL "Landmark" albums of that era 73-76 (if my chronology is correct):
Fleetwood Mac - Penguin
Fleetwood Mac - Mystery To Me
Fleetwood Mac - Heroes Are Hard To Find
Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac
This makes sense that you would lump the white album into this group since, at the time of its original release, it was probably considered by most as "just another FM album with another lineup." I'm curious: you've probably been asked before, but what did you think of the White album and the "new" lineup when you first heard it?
HomerMcvie
11-27-2009, 01:30 PM
You mean Homie Hi.
Homie, homieeeeeee, homie, homie. :laugh:
I think I just spit all over my keyboard! :lol:
I'll never hear that song the same! :lol:
louielouie2000
11-28-2009, 12:27 AM
I don't really care for anything on Bare Trees, and unfortunately that includes Christine's tracks. I don't think her songs are bad per se, but I think the whole production style of that album is super dated, very cliche, and just plain boring. I know that will make ChiliD yell at me, but it's just the way I feel. :shrug: It seems this is their album after Peter's departure that they were still really trying to figure out who they were, and what direction they really wanted to go in. The lone exception on this album for me is Sunny Side of Heaven.
chriskisn
11-28-2009, 02:23 AM
I don't really care for anything on Bare Trees, ..... The lone exception on this album for me is Sunny Side of Heaven.
You have just summed up my entire attitude to Bare Trees. :)
nicepace
11-28-2009, 06:35 PM
I don't really care for anything on Bare Trees, and unfortunately that includes Christine's tracks.
I disagree with you so completely about this that it makes me laugh. I think 'Bare Trees' is a superb album, Danny at his best, and I really love both Bob's and Christine's songs on there too.
If you want dated production, listen to (most of) 'Tango in the Night.'
David
11-29-2009, 04:59 PM
Which album has "Sands of Time" on it? Nothing finer for groove than "Sands of Time."
aleuzzi
11-29-2009, 07:46 PM
Which album has "Sands of Time" on it? Nothing finer for groove than "Sands of Time."
Future Games.
goldustsongbird
11-29-2009, 10:21 PM
I think I just spit all over my keyboard! :lol:
I'll never hear that song the same! :lol:
:xoxo: Then my work here is done.
HomerMcvie
11-30-2009, 02:53 AM
Very nice job, Lisa. ;)
HejiraNYC
11-30-2009, 09:58 AM
4 Way Street is 1971 :)
Adding to your list, apart from the ones I've mentioned in the above post, there was also Richard & Linda Thompson's I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight, Kimono My House by The Sparks, Jackson Browne's Late For The Sky, Future Days by Can, Country Life by Roxy Music, George Jones' The Grand Tour, Brian Eno's Here Come The Warm Jets, Red by King Crimson and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway by Genesis.
I guess it all depends on the kind of music you're into though, but for me 1974 was a very good year in music.
I guess your post kinda underscores my point that 1974 did not produce any truly landmark albums. There was no Quadrophenia or Harvest or Dark Side of the Moon or Physical Graffiti or Born to Run or After the Goldrush or Blood on the Tracks or Running on Empty, etc. It was just kind of a transitional period for music where legendary artists put out some of their lesser works, if anything at all. That's not to say that the albums you list are awful. It's just that they are mostly not considered among the legendary classic rock albums. Yes, Richard and Linda Thompson's album has been hailed universally by critics, but nobody really bought it. Same with Brian Eno. Same with Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, although I must admit that it was probably the most successful PG-era album- but still kind of obscure by Genesis' standards. Accordingly, my point is that Fleetwood Mac kinda stayed on-trend by releasing one of their lesser albums during this period of time. Yes, there were some classic tunes by Neil Young and Bob Dylan released around this time, but their albums from 1974 are not relative stand-outs among their respective catalogs.
billwebster
12-02-2009, 03:37 PM
I know this is a controversial choice for this board, but I always tend to skip "Calumny" whilst I pretty much enjoy "Temporary One", "Hollywood" and tend to turn up "Bad Journey".
jbrownsjr
12-02-2009, 03:38 PM
I know this is a controversial choice for this board, but I always tend to skip "Calumny" whilst I pretty much enjoy "Temporary One", "Hollywood" and tend to turn up "Bad Journey".
Love Calumny... adore it in fact...
Love love love Bad Journey...
Hollywood... ehh... it's ok...
Welcome bill!!
goldustsongbird
12-02-2009, 06:20 PM
I know this is a controversial choice for this board, but I always tend to skip "Calumny" whilst I pretty much enjoy "Temporary One", "Hollywood" and tend to turn up "Bad Journey".
I really don't like Bad Journey. :distress:
HomerMcvie
12-02-2009, 08:25 PM
Bad Journey is so-so. Hollywood never really did it for me, though....:shocked:
Dodfather
12-09-2009, 07:23 PM
Jackson Browne's Late For The Sky, .
A wonderful album. Jackson had the most incredible run of albums in the early-mid 70s. His first five records are all stellar.
GoldDustBoy
12-16-2009, 09:36 PM
I can't stand Everywhere. I like The Dance version, but the original studio version is too sugary for me. I have a demo version of Everywhere that was played during an interview with the band in 1987, and I think they should have leave it like that. I hate Bad Journey from ITMT too. :)
michelej1
12-17-2009, 12:23 AM
I hate Bad Journey from ITMT too. :)
Yeah, it's a travesty. Maybe without the background vocals. If I could hear the demo, now that could be quite interesting. As it is, please take Dan out of the will.
Michele
chiliD
12-17-2009, 11:48 AM
This makes sense that you would lump the white album into this group since, at the time of its original release, it was probably considered by most as "just another FM album with another lineup." I'm curious: you've probably been asked before, but what did you think of the White album and the "new" lineup when you first heard it?
Yeah, "just another FM album with another lineup" is pretty much how I felt. I was already familiar with the Buckingham Nicks album (since I'd owned that album for about a year by the time the FM album was released), and was really blown away that THEY were chosen to replace Bob Welch; but in spite of that, I was still disappointed with the album upon first few listens. Christine's songs didn't sound like the Christine songs I was used to (in retrospect, they sound JUST like the Christine songs I was used to :laugh:)...I don't know why I was expecting Buckingham & Nicks to sound any different than their own album, maybe I was expecting them to conform more to being "Fleetwood Mac"-ish, rather than Fleetwood Mac to conform to sounding "Buckingham Nicks"-ish. :shrug: A similar feeling I had later when I first saw Dave Mason with Fleetwood Mac in 1994.
There just wasn't that, to me, "obvious" Fleetwood Mac sounding song anywhere on the album. I definitely was missing Bob Welch. :nod: Wasn't until I heard those songs live (and especially "Rhiannon", of course) that I started listening to the album in a different mind set. Once I heard this lineup do the "old stuff", like "Station Man", "Green Manalishi", "Rattlesnake Shake", "Hypnotized", etc...that I finally relented and accepted them ("them" being Buckingham Nicks) into Fleetwood Mac. Little did I know at the time that just a tad over a decade later, I'd resent them for ever joining the band. (but the seeds of that were sown as early as late 1977 when all the pre-75 tunes were dropped, except for "Oh Well" , which was by far, their weakest song of the bunch)
jbrownsjr
12-17-2009, 11:57 AM
Yeah, it's a travesty. Maybe without the background vocals. If I could hear the demo, notf that could be quite interesting. As it is, please take Dan out of the will.
Michele
I LOVE BAD JOURNEY!!!! HER VOCAL LINE IS SEXY!!! AND THE BACKING VOCALS ARE TIGHT!!! THE LYRICS ARE HEARTFELT...
I don't like the spoken "Bad Journey" but that's about it..
tilthefirefades
12-25-2009, 10:00 PM
The only one i dislike is "Show Me A Smile", and then her Tusk Songs are so-so, but i love "Mystified", "Sugar Daddy", and "Temporary One" :D
Villavic
09-30-2025, 09:58 AM
I understand "can't stand" as an extreme dislike that takes me to definitively skip the song. If so, there's no Christine song I hate at that level. But I usually skip Only Over You. That song would have been much more nice if it weren't for that repetitive I'M OOOOOUT OF.... that ruined the song, IMHO. Cause the other segments, People think I'm crazy... Angel please don't go... etc. are beautiful. But when she returns to I'M OOOOOUT... it's like OMG who is torturing her? is she prisoner in the Inquisition? :)
HomerMcvie
09-30-2025, 10:07 AM
It took me a couple of decades to appreciate Only Over Ewe, but I finally got it. It's not a favorite, but I like it now.
jbrownsjr
09-30-2025, 01:56 PM
It took me a couple of decades to appreciate Only Over Ewe, but I finally got it. It's not a favorite, but I like it now.
It's because you were out of your mind.
HomerMcvie
09-30-2025, 02:03 PM
It's because you were out of your mind.
Wassamatta, Baby?
It's definitely better than One More Lonely Night. OMLN just drones on for too long...
Villavic
09-30-2025, 03:08 PM
It's definitely better than One More Lonely Night.
No way.
https://www.photofunky.net/output/image/c/8/0/5/c805b1/photofunky.gif
WalkAThinLine.
09-30-2025, 04:52 PM
"Bad Journey" is the Christine McVie song I can't stand the most when accounting for both her solo career and work with Fleetwood Mac. I know that people generally like her In the Meantime album, but I find most of that album to be among her worst work barring roughly four songs. Christine has a penchant for hooks, but the chorus on "Bad Journey' is completely uninspired and phoned in.
As for her worst Fleetwood Mac song, I would probably give that title to "Hollywood (Some Other Kind of Town)" for being needlessly long. "Homeward Bound" probably has her worst vocal performance. For a while, I frequently skipped "Only Over You" due to the intro, but I have softened my stance on that song slightly. I also used to dislike "Mystified" and "Warm Ways", but now I think they're fine enough.
bombaysaffires
10-02-2025, 01:17 AM
I do not get the hate for Bad Journey at all.
I am not a fan of the travelogue listing of cities....but up to that point I like it a bunch.
I particularly like the part where she sings the line "So I pick myself up/Coz I put myself down" because I think it says a lot about her getting her sh&t together after that disastrous relationship and finding her inner strength, and I really like all the harmonies with herself on that line also. :eek:
it's far better than the "sister and brother" "you're a sexy man" song.....:distress:
WalkAThinLine.
10-02-2025, 06:20 AM
I do not get the hate for Bad Journey at all.
I am not a fan of the travelogue listing of cities....but up to that point I like it a bunch.
I particularly like the part where she sings the line "So I pick myself up/Coz I put myself down" because I think it says a lot about her getting her sh&t together after that disastrous relationship and finding her inner strength, and I really like all the harmonies with herself on that line also. :eek:
it's far better than the "sister and brother" "you're a sexy man" song.....:distress:
You're referring to "Come Out to Play", which was later reworked into "Little Darling" for the 2020s remaster. The "you are a sexy man" lyric was actually removed in the transition from "Come Out to Play" to "Little Darling". I find myself listening to "Come Out to Play" more frequently than the entire In the Meantime album combined, perhaps with the exception of "Sweet Revenge".
jbrownsjr
10-03-2025, 09:23 AM
No way.
https://www.photofunky.net/output/image/c/8/0/5/c805b1/photofunky.gif
As much as it pains me to agree with Homie, One More Lonely Night is a tad too basic and does drone a bit.
I think it's an incredible vocal, however. The original sound check on the live album. She sounds fabulous!
FuzzyPlum
10-03-2025, 01:37 PM
There’s not a single Christine McVie song I can’t stand.
I don’t love Save Me….its rather trite
I don’t love Sugar Daddy….its rather, meh
The closest it gets to hate is When You Say off The Christine Perfect album. But she gets a pass as she didn’t write it. Even then it’s better than Danny K singing.
HomerMcvie
10-03-2025, 02:10 PM
There’s not a single Christine McVie song I can’t stand.
I don’t love Save Me….its rather trite
I don’t love Sugar Daddy….its rather, meh
The closest it gets to hate is When You Say off The Christine Perfect album. But she gets a pass as she didn’t write it. Even then it’s better than Danny K singing.
Sugar Daddy is my second favorite CM song, right after Think About Me.
Macfan4life
10-06-2025, 04:25 AM
I do not get the hate for Bad Journey at all.
I am not a fan of the travelogue listing of cities....but up to that point I like it a bunch.
I particularly like the part where she sings the line "So I pick myself up/Coz I put myself down" because I think it says a lot about her getting her sh&t together after that disastrous relationship and finding her inner strength, and I really like all the harmonies with herself on that line also. :eek:
it's far better than the "sister and brother" "you're a sexy man" song.....:distress:
I agree. Bad Journey is one of the highlights of the album. There was a deep dive of this song a few years ago. Chris lets it rip in the lyrics department. Its not sung angry but there definitely is some bad blood from this song.
We also discussed all the cities she mentions and she probably has been to all of them. I was curious about Boise, Idaho. That is a very unique city to mention. The Tusk Tour opened there. But we also do not know the travels she and this mystery man took.
The song is an incredible journey (pardon the pun).
bombaysaffires
10-09-2025, 10:36 AM
I agree. Bad Journey is one of the highlights of the album. There was a deep dive of this song a few years ago. Chris lets it rip in the lyrics department. Its not sung angry but there definitely is some bad blood from this song.
We also discussed all the cities she mentions and she probably has been to all of them. I was curious about Boise, Idaho. That is a very unique city to mention. The Tusk Tour opened there. But we also do not know the travels she and this mystery man took.
The song is an incredible journey (pardon the pun).
I've always thought the city names were chosen because of how they fit together and rhymed. I don't believe she would have travelled to frankly any of those places with the cad she dated during that time.
Villavic
10-09-2025, 11:47 AM
I've always thought the city names were chosen because of how they fit together and rhymed. I don't believe she would have travelled to frankly any of those places with the cad she dated during that time.
I agree. For example Gitche Gumee is the Lake Superior but probably she or Dan had read a poems book (Henry Wadsworth) titled with that name, cause I dont think she knew Ojibwa language. I always assumed this song was a metaphorical way of referring to a relationship.
FuzzyPlum
10-09-2025, 01:36 PM
Most likely she’s an admirer of Gordon Lightfoot lyrics
aleuzzi
10-10-2025, 02:24 PM
All these years later and I can stay with certainty that:
--1: The one Christine song I truly dislike is "Skies the Limit"
--2: "Temporary One" is a great tune (sorry jbronwsjr, but you wrong, gurllll)
--3: "Bad Journey" is almost as sexy as "Bad Loser"
--4: "Sugar Daddy" is still one of the finest Mac moments on wax
HomerMcvie
10-10-2025, 07:26 PM
All these years later and I can stay with certainty that:
--1: The one Christine song I truly dislike is "Skies the Limit"
--2: "Temporary One" is a great tune (sorry jbronwsjr, but you wrong, gurllll)
--3: "Bad Journey" is almost as sexy as "Bad Loser"
--4: "Sugar Daddy" is still one of the finest Mac moments on wax
1- it's leaps and bound ahead of Ricky.
2- I'm with gurl on T.O. It's meh at best. I really hate all the new Dance songs. Except maybe Bleed.
3- Bad Journey is in the middle. I don't skip it.
4- you, sir or madame, are SPOT ON. Think About Me is the only song greater than Sugar Booger Daddy. It's funky AF.
bombaysaffires
10-11-2025, 10:57 AM
1- it's leaps and bound ahead of Ricky.
2- I'm with gurl on T.O. It's meh at best. I really hate all the new Dance songs. Except maybe Bleed.
3- Bad Journey is in the middle. I don't skip it.
4- you, sir or madame, are SPOT ON. Think About Me is the only song greater than Sugar Booger Daddy. It's funky AF.
I always think of Sugar me Daddy as sort of the last of the old Christine, if you know what I mean. It sounds like it could fit on several of the prior FM albums easily. She shifted how she wrote after that....or what she brought to the band, coz even leaked demos of later stuff is more pop-ish than blues-ish which is where I put SD
HomerMcvie
10-11-2025, 02:41 PM
I always think of Sugar me Daddy as sort of the last of the old Christine, if you know what I mean. It sounds like it could fit on several of the prior FM albums easily. She shifted how she wrote after that....or what she brought to the band, coz even leaked demos of later stuff is more pop-ish than blues-ish which is where I put SD
I love it! That piano with the B-3 organ, and the guitar solo!
It's perfekt!
Anyone who doesn't like Sugar Daddy is a moron. :D
FuzzyPlum
10-11-2025, 03:47 PM
I love it! That piano with the B-3 organ, and the guitar solo!
It's perfekt!
Anyone who doesn't like Sugar Daddy is a moron. :D
Steady on, old boy
aleuzzi
10-13-2025, 06:02 PM
1- it's leaps and bound ahead of Ricky.
2- I'm with gurl on T.O. It's meh at best. I really hate all the new Dance songs. Except maybe Bleed.
3- Bad Journey is in the middle. I don't skip it.
4- you, sir or madame, are SPOT ON. Think About Me is the only song greater than Sugar Booger Daddy. It's funky AF.
It’s mademoiselle, dear.
Street_Dreamer
10-13-2025, 07:25 PM
14 years has given me the wisdom to recognize the greatness of Sugar Daddy. It's probably one of Christine's most underappreciated songs. I still don't care for Temporary One and I would definitely consider it to be her "worst" Fleetwood Mac song but it's not bad.
When You Say is without a doubt the worst solo song she's performed. It truly shows how dreadful that tune is that even Christine's vocals can't save it. Of all the solo songs she wrote and recorded, I'd say Liar is the worst.
My choice would either be Sugar Daddy or Temporary One.
Jondalar
10-14-2025, 12:05 AM
Behind the Mask
HomerMcvie
10-14-2025, 01:49 AM
It’s mademoiselle, dear.
Well, I totally expect a curtsy upon our next meeting, ma'am. :xoxo:
But G damn, still love me some Sugar Daddy... I turn it up to 10, EVERY time. :blob2::wavey::blob2::blob1::blob2:
Villavic
10-14-2025, 07:12 AM
14 years has given me the wisdom to recognize the greatness of Sugar Daddy. It's probably one of Christine's most underappreciated songs.
Yes, it's underrated. I remember reading several posts about not liking this song, from a long time ago. I've liked it since the first time I heard it, when I got the White Album.
I don't like Temporary One, but I don't define it as a bad song. Ricky is.
If I had to pick one it would be One More Night. It just kind of drags on. However, I love Sugar Daddy, Temporary One and Ricky. All three great tracks IMO.
jbrownsjr
10-14-2025, 04:49 PM
Most likely she’s an admirer of Gordon Lightfoot lyrics
HAHAHAHA!!! You made me LOL. I love that song (Fitzgerald)
In truth, I believe Christine has been to a lot of places that we haven't.
I mean she went on Safari, too!! :laugh:
Villavic
10-14-2025, 07:00 PM
I mean she went on Safari, too!! :laugh:
I thought it was Mick & John who went on safari.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.imvdb.com/video/251683273015-fleetwood-mac-hold-me_music_video_ov.jpg?v=2
Or did you mean the Penguin Country Safari?
https://www.wycovintage.com/cdn/shop/products/07232132-1977-Fleetwood-Mac-Penguin-Country-Safari-Crew-Polo-Shirt-BACK.jpg?v=1682714555&width=1445
Penguin Emeritus
10-14-2025, 07:20 PM
I thought it was Mick & John who went on safari.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.imvdb.com/video/251683273015-fleetwood-mac-hold-me_music_video_ov.jpg?v=2
Or did you mean the Penguin Country Safari?
https://www.wycovintage.com/cdn/shop/products/07232132-1977-Fleetwood-Mac-Penguin-Country-Safari-Crew-Polo-Shirt-BACK.jpg?v=1682714555&width=1445
No, she actually did go on a safari! she did it once she was flying again...can't remember the exact year. But I think she went with Robbie Patton, actually. they were good buddies.
--Lis
aleuzzi
10-15-2025, 04:55 PM
No, she actually did go on a safari! she did it once she was flying again...can't remember the exact year. But I think she went with Robbie Patton, actually. they were good buddies.
--Lis
That’s good to hear. I knew she’d done the safari when she began flying again. Glad she went with a good buddy.
In her last video appearance (when accepting the Trailblazer Award), she mentioned wanting to do another safari, that she could still recall the smell of the earth and the animals. I don’t think she ever got to do that second safari.
FuzzyPlum
10-16-2025, 01:39 PM
HAHAHAHA!!! You made me LOL. I love that song (Fitzgerald)
In truth, I believe Christine has been to a lot of places that we haven't.
I mean she went on Safari, too!! :laugh:
Well, I’m glad I made you lol. lol!!!
But it’s a serious point. I think Chris was a serious music connoisseur and can imagine her listening to all sorts of music at high volume in either her Kent mansion or her Belgravia’s apartment. I think she’d really dig Gordon Lightfoot and maybe picked up on some of his lyrics.
‘Oh, that sounds interesting- I can name drop that as a nod to GL’
Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald is a lovely old song. But for me, If You Could Read My Mind will always be his standard. One of my favourite songs….ever!
bwboy
10-17-2025, 02:26 PM
Temporary One, One More Lonely Night, Only Over You, Honey Hi, and Sugar Daddy are the only songs by Christine in FM that I don’t care for and skip. That’s a pretty good track record!
FuzzyPlum
10-18-2025, 03:26 AM
Temporary One, One More Lonely Night, Only Over You, Honey Hi, and Sugar Daddy are the only songs by Christine in FM that I don’t care for and skip. That’s a pretty good track record!
Honey Hi?
Thats heresy.
Villavic
10-18-2025, 08:29 AM
Honey Hi?
Thats heresy.
At the risk of being told The power of God compels you!!! ;), Honey Hi is not within the songs I can't stand, but I don't like it that much. It is probably the song I like less of Tusk Chris songs. But I don't dislike it.
Penguin Emeritus
10-18-2025, 11:48 AM
At the risk of being told The power of God compels you!!! ;), Honey Hi is not within the songs I can't stand, but I don't like it that much. It is probably the song I like less of Tusk Chris songs. But I don't dislike it.
i don't love it either, but i don't skip it.
i adore temporary one, could hear it 10 times in a row and love it every time!! sugar daddy is great, too.
--Lis
Macfan4life
10-19-2025, 06:06 AM
Honey Hi?
Thats heresy.
This time he's gone too far. Round up the pitchforks.
FuzzyPlum
10-19-2025, 11:25 AM
This time he's gone too far. Round up the pitchforks.
Okay, I’m tooled up. I’m ready. Let’s go. Where is he? :lol:
Macfan4life
10-19-2025, 11:31 AM
Okay, I’m tooled up. I’m ready. Let’s go. Where is he? :lol:
Look for any signs of chiffon
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