Amended albums [Archive]

TheWILDheart

11-06-2009, 07:04 AM

Hi All,

Just for fun, if you could change any Stevie album (tracks, cover art, running order..anything you like), what would you do to improve it?

I pretty much think Bella Donna is flawless - apart from one thing. It's too short. So I'd do this:

Bella Donna
Gold And Braid
Kind Of Woman
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Think About It
After The Glitter Fades
Edge Of Seventeen
How Still My Love
Leather And Lace
Blue Lamp
Outside The Rain
The Highwayman

Similar situation with "The Wild Heart" - I'd add "Violet And Blue" between "Nightbird" and "Stand Back". I really want to add "Sleeping Angel" but I don't think it would sound right on that album.

Rock A Little - I'd replaced "The Nightmare" with "Mirror, Mirror".

OSOTM - Scrap "I Still Miss Someone" and have the album ending with "Doing The Best I Can" - one of my fav Stevie songs. Also, I can't STAND the cover. WHAT the hell is she doing? So I'd prefer this:

<a href="http://s147.photobucket.com/albums/r313/TheWILDheart83/?action=view&current=OSOTMReversed.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r313/TheWILDheart83/OSOTMReversed.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

I also REALLY wish Crystal Visions had been released as a 2CD set with the complete Very Best Of on it - so many tracks missing - If You Ever Did Belive, Whole Lotta Trouble, Blue Denim, Everyday, Nightbird, Beauty and the Beast, Sometimes It's A Bitch etc.

As for Street Angel, I'd prefer it if the single edit of Blue Denim had been used and "Gods Garden" and "Inspiration" replaced "Jane" and "Just Like A Woman". The cover art is also pretty bad but I can't think of anything to replaced it with. Any suggestions?

Anyone else got any?

AncientQueen

11-06-2009, 08:02 AM

Travis

11-06-2009, 08:23 AM

Street Angel
Let me put some 30 seconds of effort into the cover and let me change the typing. I would change the song Gretta into Greta (anyone wanna buy a T?) and change STREETANGEL into Streetangel on the back, so that someone can read it.

Sheesh, when that one came out, I thought i would look at a cheap ass bootleg. To some degree, it even sounds like one.

You must be talking about the Japan import ... the extra T in Greta and the all caps making it hard to read isn't so on the US version ... but yes, who looks over these things? Bad bad bad

AncientQueen

11-06-2009, 08:31 AM

You must be talking about the Japan import ... the extra T in Greta and the all caps making it hard to read isn't so on the US version ... but yes, who looks over these things? Bad bad bad

It is the german version, I bought it in a regular german store for the regular price. And I'm still fuming over that. :D We european fans meant nothing to Steviels record label.

chriskisn

11-06-2009, 08:35 AM

You must be talking about the Japan import ... the extra T in Greta and the all caps making it hard to read isn't so on the US version ... but yes, who looks over these things? Bad bad bad

My Australian version has the extra "T" and the capitals too...

luckydimecaper

11-06-2009, 08:38 AM

I think I would do pretty much the same... Blue Lamp definitely should have been on Bella Donna, but I think Gold and Braid would be too upbeat for that album so I'd put it on the Wild Heart instead of I Will Run to You.
I'd also definitely change the cover to OSOTM because it is just terrible. The cover you've done there is actually pretty nice!

chriskisn

11-06-2009, 08:39 AM

Also, I can't STAND the cover. WHAT the hell is she doing?

What? Wash your mouth out! TOSOTM is one of the sexiest Stevie album covers!!!

(My wife who hates Stevie with a passion made the following comment about the TOSOTM cover "Oh just l0ok at her sitting there with her legs spread open, typical Stevie!") :lol:

Travis

11-06-2009, 08:43 AM

Bella Donna isn't quite flawless to me. I'd simply change the order of two songs ..

Bella Donna
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Kind of Woman
Think About It
After The Glitter Fades
Edge of Seventeen
How Still My Love
Leather and Lace
Outside The Rain
The Highwayman

After the semi upbeat title track, I think the album should keep the upbeat flow going, having KOW after it just sort of makes the whole thing sink to me .. So again, just flip those two and its all good :-)

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If you're listening to The Wild Heart via the album or cassette tape (which is what we did back in the day) WH is flawless from start to finish (I'm all about the flow of the songs) however, with the CD, having Stand Back right after Nightbird doesn't work. They both have that drum synth sound and SB is actually a slower song (beat per minute wise) than Nightbird and it just doesn't sound good. A song needs to be in-between them. So for the album and cassette tape, WH is fine, but for the CD, I would have put "Garbo" in between them.

Rock A Little, like BD, RAL is almost flawless. Again to keep the upbeat flow going, I would make Sister Honey 2nd and RAL 3rd and keep the rest of the CD as is.

The Other Side of the Mirror is probably the best sequenced Stevie CD, I wouldn't change a thing with the running order however, I do like the idea of the back picture being used for the front.

Timespace is perfect to me, much better flow than Crystal Visions.

Street Angel hmmm, how much time do I have? Not crazy about the artwork .. The promo pics of Stevie in the long black dress that came out during this time would have looked better I think - or the outtakes of Stevie in the white dress with candles that I saw posted here a while ago. Anything over what was used ...As far as the music - the songs simply needed the same touch that the 4 songs from this CD have on Enchanted (where you can actually hear and understand her vocals better). I would replace Docklands with "Thousand Days" (the one that was on one of the import CD singles.)

TheWILDheart

11-06-2009, 09:29 AM

WH is fine, but for the CD, I would have put "Garbo" in between them.

THAT...is a stroke of genius! I am so trying that when I get home :blob2::blob1:

Travis

11-06-2009, 09:47 AM

THAT...is a stroke of genius! I am so trying that when I get home :blob2::blob1:

I am pretty good huh? ;)

TheWILDheart

11-06-2009, 10:16 AM

I am pretty good huh? ;)

Indeed! :thumbsup:
I still think "Violet And Blue" should be on there. There are so many Stevie songs that go un-noticed to people who aren't die hard fans :(

Dodfather

11-06-2009, 10:25 AM

It is the german version, I bought it in a regular german store for the regular price. And I'm still fuming over that. :D We european fans meant nothing to Stevie's record label.

We still don't. If we did she would at least have played a handful of European gigs since 1989, but no. This really, really annoys me.

As for the albums thange, I'd drop I Still Miss Someone from Other Side of the Mirror and do something, anything, with the Street Angel artwork. It's God awful.

I also completely agree about the earlier post regarding Crystal Visions and its weird tracklisting. This could have been done so, so much better. I only bought it because of the dvd, which could have been released on its own anyway. As for that, where os the Rooms on Fire video?! It really needs to be on there.

Travis

11-06-2009, 10:26 AM

I only bought it because of the dvd, which could have been released on its own anyway. As for that, where os the Rooms on Fire video?! It really needs to be on there.

Scratches head - it is on there

TheWILDheart

11-06-2009, 10:30 AM

As for that, where os the Rooms on Fire video?! It really needs to be on there.

It's deffo on there...:confused:

The only missing video is "If You Ever Did Believe"

BellaDonna93

11-06-2009, 03:51 PM

This is hard because there are so many songs that didn't were on the records that I think would be great to have on the records...as you have already said...there's soo many songs that are soo good that could have replaced the less good songs that were on the records, like any of her demos could have replaced the cover of I Still Miss Someone on OSOTM, I think. And she could've add more demos on the albums to make them longer :)

JazmenFlowers

11-06-2009, 04:14 PM

If you're listening to The Wild Heart via the album or cassette tape (which is what we did back in the day) WH is flawless from start to finish (I'm all about the flow of the songs) however, with the CD, having Stand Back right after Nightbird doesn't work. They both have that drum synth sound and SB is actually a slower song (beat per minute wise) than Nightbird and it just doesn't sound good. A song needs to be in-between them. So for the album and cassette tape, WH is fine, but for the CD, I would have put "Garbo" in between them.
omg, this has always bugged the **** out of me. I totally agree.

Street Angel hmmm, how much time do I have? Not crazy about the artwork .. The promo pics of Stevie in the long black dress that came out during this time would have looked better I think - or the outtakes of Stevie in the white dress with candles that I saw posted here a while ago. Anything over what was used ...As far as the music - the songs simply needed the same touch that the 4 songs from this CD have on Enchanted (where you can actually hear and understand her vocals better). I would replace Docklands with "Thousand Days" (the one that was on one of the import CD singles.)
again, 100% agree.

markolas

11-07-2009, 12:04 AM

Bella Donna should be left the hell alone - it's perfect as it is. A fukcing masterpiece if Stevie ever had one.

I couldn't get into The Wild Heart for the longest time, but I finally came around to really liking it - it's not as perfect as BD, but it's pretty close. I don't care too much for Gate & Garden or I Will Run to You - but in all honesty, I'd probably leave G&G. I do think Garbo belongs on this album somewhere, badly.

Like BD, I wouldn't mess with Rock a Little. I've always loved that album. TOSOTM on the other hand...I'm not sure where I'd start with that one. The only songs on it that I think are really great are Rooms on Fire and Ooh My Love. Most of the other songs have their moments, but - eh.

I can see some potential in Street Angel, somewhere. First I'd replace the SA versions of Blue Denim, Rose Garden, Destiny, and Street Angel with the Enchanted versions. Definitely eliminate Unconditional Love, MLWCYM, Jane, and Kick It. I might consider keeping Greta, Love Is Like a River, and Listen to the Rain. Maybe put Thousand Days on there somewhere. I dunno. Like I say, there's some potential someplace, but the album is a mess.

TISL - get rid of That Made Me Stronger and Too Far from Texas and put Thrown Down on there or another one of the outtakes that have surfaced - they may not be the best songs she's ever written, but they're certainly preferable to the two turkeys that wound up on the album. Do that, and TISL would be damn near flawless.

daniellaaarisen

11-07-2009, 12:29 AM

I have one thing to say on this subject.

Why the hell is "Space Needle" not on Trouble in Shangri-La?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

This will infuriate me forever.

Dodfather

11-07-2009, 06:37 AM

TISL - get rid of That Made Me Stronger and Too Far from Texas and put Thrown Down on there or another one of the outtakes that have surfaced - they may not be the best songs she's ever written, but they're certainly preferable to the two turkeys that wound up on the album. Do that, and TISL would be damn near flawless.

I think I'm the only one on this whole board who loves that song!

BellaDonna93

11-07-2009, 08:33 AM

I have one thing to say on this subject.

Why the hell is "Space Needle" not on Trouble in Shangri-La?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

This will infuriate me forever.

Agree :D :blob2:

RavenOfRhiannon

11-07-2009, 10:00 AM

My amended TISL:

Trouble In Shangri-La
Candlebright (Outtake)
Sorcerer
Planets Of The Universe [Extended Album Version]
Every Day
Too Far From Texas
Thrown Down (TISL Outtake)
It's Only Love
Touched By An Angel
Love Changes (Outtake)
My Heart
I Miss You
Bombay Sapphires
Fall From Grace
Love Is

bellagypsy79

11-07-2009, 10:10 AM

I totally agree with the Bella Donna album of what should be on it
For the Wild Heart album, I would've added "Violet and Blue"
Rock A Little, I would've added "Battle of the Dragon" and "Reconsider Me"
The Other Side Of The Mirror I would've added "Mirror, Mirror". That would've been perfect with the theme of the album!
Shangri-La, yes could've used "Space Needle". They had plenty of room to put that on there, it's not like the album was released on vinyl. Alot of our favorite Stevie songs that weren't featured on any of her albums were probably cut because they couldn't fit. Vinyl is so different that cd. On a cd, you can put up to 20 songs on a disc with vinyl, 10 tops. 5 on each side depending on how long your song is. That's why "Silver Springs" got cut from Rumours, it was too long and it didn't fit.

Anyway pictures! My idea for the "Street Angel" album cover would be nighttime with the stars and a full moon and Stevie standing in the middle of an intersection in the big city no traffic, just her, the stars, the moon and the city.
Rock A Little album cover should've been this photo
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I know this is a little off subject but I want to mention a change in a Fleetwood Mac album cover for Tango In The Night...I think this should've been the cover...
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michelej1

11-07-2009, 11:46 AM

I know this is a little off subject but I want to mention a change in a Fleetwood Mac album cover for Tango In The Night...I think this should've been the cover...
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I enjoy that picture a great deal. But since it was already 8 years old by the time Tango came out, I would have wanted something new for Tango. I am already mad at them for not giving us any new official photos for this Unleashed tour. I wouldn't want another reason to shake my fists at them, retroactively.

Michele

markolas

11-07-2009, 01:54 PM

I enjoy that picture a great deal. But since it was already 8 years old by the time Tango came out, I would have wanted something new for Tango.

I thought that pic looked suspiciously like it came from the Tusk era. But that doesn't bother me nearly as much as Lindsey's dirty feet (or are they Mick's?) - they're as black as soot! :eek:

Black_Moon

11-07-2009, 05:02 PM

^^

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that picture to me looks like a Tango in the Night era one. Stevie's wearing lace gloves a la I Can't Wait, and her hair also looks similar. Mick is wearing the hat that's in the inlay photos of the album. It's also in the same room as the inlay photos.

Christopher

11-08-2009, 01:37 PM

That pic is definetly from TITN....I understand how it can be a bit confusing since there is a similiar photo of all 5 of them in the TUSK liner notes, except the photo is in black and white and they appear to be floating on the ceiling.
Stevie's hair, with the extreme blonde highlights in the front and permed big 80's hair and pastel background alone should be a BIG clue that this is an TITN photo. This shot the was in the inner liner notes for TITN

michelej1

11-08-2009, 10:51 PM

chiliD

11-09-2009, 11:44 AM

First & foremost: I think she just should've NOT released TOSOTM at all...just saved "Rooms On Fire" & "Whole Lotta Trouble" for the Behind The Mask album. Would've really liked to have heard how Rick & Billy would've made "Whole Lotta Trouble" a kick ass blues/rock song...get rid of the horns & synths that ruin the existing version.

I wouldn't CHANGE Bella Donna other than to just ADD "Blue Lamp" & "Gold and Braid" as bonus tracks.

The Wild Heart: Oh, I don't know...there's just too much to fix on this one, that I'll just leave it "as is"...and add "Garbo" & "Violet & Blue" as bonus tracks (somewhere in the middle of the album, though..."Beauty & The Beast" has to still END the album.)

Rock A Little: Oh, where to start? Well, I wouldn't touch what was "side 2" of the LP, that's damned near perfection. Side one is in a world of hurt after "I Can't Wait". Yeah, the aforementioned addition of "Battle Of The Dragon" is a definite improvement. But, "One More Old Time Rock & Roll Star" wouldn't be a step-up from the tripe that makes up most of side 1.

Maybe she just should've released a 8 song EP:

I Can't Wait
Battle Of The Dragon
Some Become Strangers
Talk To Me
The Nightmare
If I Were You
No Spoken World
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You

Street Angel: Should've opened the album with "Maybe Love..." and replaced the Dylan cover with "Thousand Days". (I have the US album...on the cover "Greta" is spelled with the 1 "t", but when I downloaded it to iTunes, it picked up the title with the double "t". I thought that was a bit odd.)

TISL: Only change would be replace "Too Far From Texas" with "Touched By An Angel". (Why not "Space Needle"? BECAUSE IT's unfinished...and who knows what dastardly things they would've done to it?)

That pic is definetly from TITN....I understand how it can be a bit confusing since there is a similiar photo of all 5 of them in the TUSK liner notes, except the photo is in black and white and they appear to be floating on the ceiling.

Actually, the "black & white" photo you describe is in color on the original Tusk LP packaging.

TheWILDheart

11-09-2009, 11:54 AM

First & foremost: I think she just should've NOT released TOSOTM at all...

The Wild Heart: Oh, I don't know...there's just too much to fix on this oneRock A Little: Oh, where to start? Well, I wouldn't touch what was "side 2" of the LP, that's damned near perfection.

the tripe that makes up most of side 1.

:eek: AJKHAGHHJSGDSDGHJKSHKASHJAGS!!!!

NOT HAVE RELEASED OSOTM!? But but..Rooms On Fire, Long Way To Go, Ooh My Love, Ghosts, Whole Lotta Trouble, Alice, Juliet, Doing The Best I Can. Plus, having ROF and WLT on BTM means no "Freedom" or "Affairs Of The Heart" or "The Second Time" and I love all 3 of those.

"The Wild Heart" is STUNNING imo, but too short. Same with "Bella Donna" So I really don't think anything needs "fixing".

Leave side 2? Errr..hello.."The Nightmare" is just that. And "Sister Honey" and "Imperial Hotel" are too cool.

bellagypsy79

11-09-2009, 01:05 PM

Oh, ok. Sorry I confused it.

Michele

That photo is on the back of the album but it also appeared in a single from "Tango", and I think it was "Seven Wonders".

chiliD

11-09-2009, 01:37 PM

NOT HAVE RELEASED OSOTM!? But but..Rooms On Fire, Long Way To Go, Ooh My Love, Ghosts, Whole Lotta Trouble, Alice, Juliet, Doing The Best I Can. Plus, having ROF and WLT on BTM means no "Freedom" or "Affairs Of The Heart" or "The Second Time" and I love all 3 of those.

"Rooms On Fire" is the only redeeming song on TOSOTM..."Whole Lot Of Trouble" has potential, but as is, sucks. The rest of the album?? Better left in the vaults...or bulk erase the tapes!

"The Wild Heart" is STUNNING imo, but too short. Same with "Bella Donna" So I really don't think anything needs "fixing".

Oooooh...the track running order (other than B&tB ending it) really needs some work!

Leave side 2? Errr..hello.."The Nightmare" is just that. And "Sister Honey" and "Imperial Hotel" are too cool.

Oh, God, pass me the barf bucket. "Sister Honey"?? "Imperial Hotel"?? God help me! Two more songs that the master tapes should've been intentionally/inadvertantly bulk erased before they were unleashed upon the unsuspecting public.

Side 2 of RAL IS Stevie Nicks perfection.

Just shows how the same set of tunes can illicit totally opposite responses from its listeners.

Travis

11-09-2009, 02:46 PM

omg, this has always bugged the **** out of me. I totally agree.

again, 100% agree.

we rock :-)

TheWILDheart

11-10-2009, 05:03 AM

"Rooms On Fire" is the only redeeming song on TOSOTM..."Whole Lot Of Trouble" has potential, but as is, sucks. The rest of the album?? Better left in the vaults...or bulk erase the tapes!

Long Way To Go, Ooh My Love, Juliet and Doing The Best I Can are some of my fav Stevie tracks ever.

"
Oh, God, pass me the barf bucket. "Sister Honey"?? "Imperial Hotel"?? God help me! Two more songs that the master tapes should've been intentionally/inadvertantly bulk erased before they were unleashed upon the unsuspecting public.

Side 2 of RAL IS Stevie Nicks perfection.

Just shows how the same set of tunes can illicit totally opposite responses from its listeners.

Again, I'm HIGHLY disagreeing with you - Sister Honey and Imperial Hotel are MILES better than Some Become Strangers & The Nightmare. I really like them both and apart from "Seven Wonders", they're both better than Stevie's TINT efforts.

My RAL tracklisting is:

I Can't Wait (extended version)
Rock A Little
Sister Honey
I Sing For The Things
Imperial Hotel
One More Big Time Rock and Roll Star
Talk To Me
Mirror Mirror
If I Were You
No Spoken Word
Has Anyone Ever..

chriskisn

11-10-2009, 07:04 AM

Long Way To Go, Ooh My Love, Juliet and Doing The Best I Can are some of my fav Stevie tracks ever.

Doing The Best That I Can is definitely one of her best tracks, I always play it loud and on repeat. I think I'll go and play it now. :)

Again, I'm HIGHLY disagreeing with you - Sister Honey and Imperial Hotel are MILES better than Some Become Strangers & The Nightmare.

Yep, I agree again :nod: