Best official live album? [Archive]

Sahara

11-02-2009, 12:52 PM

They each offer something different, I think. I'm actually not that familiar with the Live album(:eek:), though I do own it so for me it's between the polished, controlled 'show' of The Dance or the more raw and rough around the edges nature of Live in Boston. The Dance was my first visual experience of the Mac, and it was all so pretty and impressive. I'd never seen anything like Stevie Nicks before and she blew me away, and Lindsey has rarely looked better. Live in Boston as a real live show was so different to that, it took me a while to come round to it, though those versions of Go Your Own Way and Stand Back are my all-time favourites.

...I think I'll go with The Dance.

michelej1

11-02-2009, 12:55 PM

I feel The Dance was incredible. I was sick with obsession over it. There were a few weeks there, when I must have watched that thing 30+ times in just 2 weeks. But I think the DVD did more for me than the audio.

So, for a CD, I chose the first live album.

Michele

Spikey

11-02-2009, 01:07 PM

Easiest poll ever.. The 1980 album is totally disjointed (although what's there is still good), bootlegs of actual full concerts are much more appealing to me.

I voted The Dance.. whatta show, I love the new music like Temporary One and Bleed to Love Her.

- Spike

gretchen

11-02-2009, 01:09 PM

The Dance...there is no other choice IMO. :nod:

trackaghost

11-02-2009, 01:14 PM

mylittledemon

11-02-2009, 01:49 PM

THE DANCE, hands down, no questions asked. :nod:

louielouie2000

11-02-2009, 01:54 PM

I chose Live '80... it's a snapshot in time. These newer live albums are just trying to recapture what was really going on when Live '80 was recorded.

jbrownsjr

11-02-2009, 02:12 PM

^^^^^

The live album is explosive at times... Over and Over is a raging burning inferno at the end. GYOW in Cleveland is one of the best. NGBA is dope!
Rhiannon amazing!! Monday Morning opens with sonic orgasms...

There's some really magical moments on the Live album.

GypsySorcerer

11-02-2009, 02:18 PM

It's a toss for me between The Dance and the 1980 album. I would probably choose The Dance, for sentimental reasons, because that was what rekindled my interest in the band.

FMlex

11-02-2009, 02:25 PM

This was a toss up between Live and The Dance for me.
LIB is good, but seeing as how I'm not thrilled with Say You Will, I decided against it.

I'd much rather listen to Live or The Dance!

I went ahead and went with Live, just because I'm obsessed with that time period. Plus, "Over and Over" and "Fireflies" are nice treats! Not to mention fantastic versions of "Rhiannon" and "Sara."

trackaghost

11-02-2009, 02:27 PM

I chose Live '80... it's a snapshot in time. These newer live albums are just trying to recapture what was really going on when Live '80 was recorded.

^^^^^

The live album is explosive at times... Over and Over is a raging burning inferno at the end. GYOW in Cleveland is one of the best. NGBA is dope!
Rhiannon amazing!! Monday Morning opens with sonic orgasms...

There's some really magical moments on the Live album.

I agree! I love you hear the highs and the mistakes, there's rawness and passion on that album.

Villavic

11-02-2009, 05:30 PM

Hard to compare them with the Live Album, since it was another era. But anyway, I'd choose The Dance cause it's very well produced. Maybe "too studio" style, but I love it anyway. It was a good production for a reunion.

Matthew

11-02-2009, 06:07 PM

Definitely The Dance.
Well, I don´t exactly know that from 1980... should I?
But I can imagine and I think that I would like The Dance still lot more.

Live In Boston can´t be best... why? that´s simple... there is someone missing...

Nikolaj

11-02-2009, 06:42 PM

I think I'd have to go with the '80 Live double album, for reasons others have pointed out. I'm glad that the appreciation for 'Rhiannon' on this album has improved with time. When the album was released, a major criticism I recall both in the printed media and from fans comments, was that the band had waited too long to release an official live version of 'Rhiannon'. In the late 70s, I remember that FM radio would play live versions of 'Rhiannon' from various radio specials of the day, such as the King Biscuit Hour, I believe a Connecticut-recorded live 'Rhiannon' got occasional play throughout the East coast, and perhaps nationally. This was about 1978-79.
So, before the release of the live lp, a live 'Rhiannon' had been heard and was popular or known enough that the 1980 live lp 'Rhiannon' -at the time- was considered inferior, and ridiculous to think of now, but...too late.

chiliD

11-02-2009, 06:50 PM

"None of the above"...

Live At The Boston Tea Party, Volumes 1 through 3.

jbrownsjr

11-02-2009, 07:04 PM

"None of the above"...

Live At The Boston Tea Party, Volumes 1 through 3.

Haha.. ur a mad man!!!

BTW.. i have all three of those and they kick ass...

daniellaaarisen

11-02-2009, 07:31 PM

I chose The Dance for sentimental reasons... plus, "Silver Springs". Enough said.

BUT I've never heard Live 1980 in its entirety so I feel like I can't properly vote on this... I haven't even heard the "Rhiannon" from it :eek:

wheart

11-02-2009, 07:37 PM

Although I love some of the performances from the 1980 release (namely Rhiannon) I gotta go with The Dance. Apparently I'm not alone! :wavey:

Troddew

11-02-2009, 07:38 PM

I have to totally go with the 1980 Live album - Rhiannon and Sara are Magic and Go Your own way is remarkable and Landslide is mystical and haunting. Hands down my favorite:)

Doctor

11-03-2009, 12:46 AM

I believe Live in Boston is simply amazing. Even without Christine McVie.

daniellaaarisen

11-03-2009, 02:02 AM

I believe Live in Boston is simply amazing. Even without Christine McVie.

I'm watching it right now-- I forgot how much I loved it. That "Beautiful Child" in itself is just pure magic. And "Say Goodbye"...

TrueFaith77

11-03-2009, 06:40 AM

I believe Live in Boston is simply amazing. Even without Christine McVie.

Is it just the accompanying CD that is being polled here?

SorcererJP

11-03-2009, 07:17 AM

My vote goes to the 1980 Live-album.

Simply because it's raw, FM at one of the peaks and it got gems like Firefliues, Farmers Daughter (the original live Sara) and other great rocksongs.

The Dance is way to polished and smooth, although I played it last week for the first time and perhaps a year and I enjoyed watching it.

The CD-version of Live in Boston misses a lot from the original DVD-/concert-performance. The choice of songs included on that album does not represents a SYw-show if you'd ask me...

Alas, do known bootlegs also count? Or radio-shows?

Because then I'll vote for:

The Rockhoppers / King Biscuit Flower Hour 1975

The Sin City vegas-show is also very good!

chriskisn

11-03-2009, 07:36 AM

"None of the above"...

Live At The Boston Tea Party, Volumes 1 through 3.

Actually you have a point...

chriskisn

11-03-2009, 07:39 AM

Like several other people I voted for the 1980 album simply because it was raw, not the polished, sugar coated album that The Dance was.

1980 will always be the better album if only for Stevie's version of Rhiannon (and although I haven't listened to this album for a while I recall I'm So Afraid wasn't all that bad either) :nod:

mylittledemon

11-03-2009, 10:48 PM

Amazing to see so much support for the 1980 live album. While I love it, for me, it doesn't compare with The Dance. :shrug:

David

11-03-2009, 10:57 PM

Amazing to see so much support for the 1980 live album. While I love it, for me, it doesn't compare with The Dance. :shrug:I have major issues with both of them. But certainly The Dance is the more immaculately crafted labor of love. It's elegant, an artifact of good breeding.

The 1980 album is akin to a concert program -- cool photos & moments, but it has beer spilled on it. It's "street" (for Fleetwood Mac, at least).

(Same is true of the 1997 concert video vs. the 1982 & 1987 videos.)

fleetwoodtrick

11-03-2009, 10:59 PM

The Dance. No competition. Really. I have "Live" on vinyl, but not CD. And it always skips and rips accross the vinyl halfway through, so I've never heard it all the way through either. That pisses me off because it wasn't cheap. :eek:

mylittledemon

11-04-2009, 12:06 AM

I have major issues with both of them. But certainly The Dance is the more immaculately crafted labor of love. It's elegant, an artifact of good breeding.

The 1980 album is akin to a concert program -- cool photos & moments, but it has beer spilled on it. It's "street" (for Fleetwood Mac, at least).

Oh yeah for sure. The Dance has it's share of problems. The fact that they didn't film it in 16:9 blows my mind.

My problem with the LIVE 1980 record is that it sounds very dirty. The performances are good, but take "Don't Stop" for example... the ending where Lindsey breaks a string and you hear Christine talking about it? Interesting for sure, but... it doesn't belong there. Give me some CLASSIC versions of the songs that I can listen to regularly. I have to say, "Fireflies" is the only one I don't typically skip over.

louielouie2000

11-04-2009, 12:17 AM

My problem with the LIVE 1980 record is that it sounds very dirty. The performances are good, but take "Don't Stop" for example... the ending where Lindsey breaks a string and you hear Christine talking about it? Interesting for sure, but... it doesn't belong there. Give me some CLASSIC versions of the songs that I can listen to regularly. I have to say, "Fireflies" is the only one I don't typically skip over.

See? That's exactly why I *DO* love Live '80! :thumbsup: It's a raw snapshot of a moment in time... even if it does show boogers in Stevie's nose, or John McVie's armpit stains ;). Everything FM ever did in the studio was polished up to a blinding sheen. Give me some grit. I don't need 400 backing musicians to 'fatten' up the sound... I wanna hear FLEETWOOD MAC! Not Fleetwood Mac plus Carlos, Brett, Steve, Taku, Neale, Sharon, Mindy, Lenny, the 126 piece USC Trojan Marching Band, etc etc etc. :nod:

trackaghost

11-04-2009, 12:18 AM

I have major issues with both of them. But certainly The Dance is the more immaculately crafted labor of love. It's elegant, an artifact of good breeding.

The 1980 album is akin to a concert program -- cool photos & moments, but it has beer spilled on it. It's "street" (for Fleetwood Mac, at least).

(Same is true of the 1997 concert video vs. the 1982 & 1987 videos.)

Which is probably why I prefer the 1980 album. I don't want to hear a rock band sound "elegant", I want to hear them sound dirty, raw and real. The Dance has too much polish for it to sound like a real live experience, but there's plenty of real moments on the Live album that makes it feel like you are in the venue and hearing the songs, mistakes and all, in that moment. The inclusion of the string breaking at the end of Don't Stop, for instance, is just fantastic. I'll listen to the album versions if I want perfection.

trackaghost

11-04-2009, 12:25 AM

See? That's exactly why I *DO* love Live '80! :thumbsup: It's a raw snapshot of a moment in time... even if it does show boogers in Stevie's nose, or John McVie's armpit stains ;). Everything FM ever did in the studio was polished up to a blinding sheen. Give me some grit. I don't need 400 backing musicians to 'fatten' up the sound... I wanna hear FLEETWOOD MAC! Not Fleetwood Mac plus Carlos, Brett, Steve, Taku, Neale, Sharon, Mindy, Lenny, the 126 piece USC Trojan Marching Band, etc etc etc. :nod:

Exactly! I agree with everything you've just said.
I think The Dance holds a lot of nostalgia for people because it's the album that introduced a lot of younger fans to the band, but artistically and as a representation of the band live, the 1980 is more effective imo. I always think of The Dance as a TV special, but the Live album is a chronicle of the band on tour in their prime.

louielouie2000

11-04-2009, 12:42 AM

Exactly! I agree with everything you've just said.
I think The Dance holds a lot of nostalgia for people because it's the album that introduced a lot of younger fans to the band, but artistically and as a representation of the band live, the 1980 is more effective imo. I always think of The Dance as a TV special, but the Live album is a chronicle of the band on tour in their prime.

There definitely seems to be a dividing line between those who were fans prior to 1997 and those who became fans afterwards. I became a fan in '93, so I really thought I'd never see the Rumours kids together ever again. So naturally I have very warm and fuzzy memories from the Dance reunion, and watching the concert on TV (I actually still have my Dance VHS copy :lol:). Hearing Silver Springs on the radio constantly was a sonic orgasm to me :laugh:. Even when I watch the concert to this day, I find it sweet and touching. But you're absolutely right... it was more like a made for TV movie. It was almost like Big Band Broadway Does Fleetwood Mac! Too many musicians, too many rehearsed monologues and dialogues, too many soft camera lenses.

I like the Live '80 album because it's the real deal. The kids had been touring for 18 months... so you hear that in Stevie's ragged Rhiannon vocals. You get to hear Christine introduce the first song from their brand new album Tusk: Over And Over. You can hear strings break, band members discussing things. There are performances from 3 continents. You just can't recreate or buy any of that :thumbsup:.

mylittledemon

11-04-2009, 12:52 AM

"Sara" from the 1980 live album is stunning... I forgot about that one. ;)

mylittledemon

11-04-2009, 12:54 AM

jbrownsjr

11-04-2009, 01:21 AM

I would probably love the 1980 version better if they'd release all the video footage with it and put it on DVD.

OH Hells yeah!!

Erin

11-04-2009, 10:39 AM

See? That's exactly why I *DO* love Live '80! :thumbsup: It's a raw snapshot of a moment in time... even if it does show boogers in Stevie's nose, or John McVie's armpit stains ;). Everything FM ever did in the studio was polished up to a blinding sheen. Give me some grit. I don't need 400 backing musicians to 'fatten' up the sound... I wanna hear FLEETWOOD MAC! Not Fleetwood Mac plus Carlos, Brett, Steve, Taku, Neale, Sharon, Mindy, Lenny, the 126 piece USC Trojan Marching Band, etc etc etc. :nod:

The marching band is a highlight for me! Especially Don't Stop, it's my favorite version. I understand what you mean about the fattened sound, but I'm one of the people who were snared into the Fleetwood Mac universe because of the Dance, although like Brandon I'm annoyed by the 4:3. The dvd doesn't look so hot on my widescreen tv.

I like the Live 80 album a lot, but it needs to be remastered, badly. I just got it on vinyl recently and haven't had time to spin it yet. I'm hoping it's better than the cd transfer. So I basically can't pick between the two, because they are so different yet supposedly "live".

seekerj

11-04-2009, 11:02 AM

Which is probably why I prefer the 1980 album. I don't want to hear a rock band sound "elegant", I want to hear them sound dirty, raw and real. The Dance has too much polish for it to sound like a real live experience, but there's plenty of real moments on the Live album that makes it feel like you are in the venue and hearing the songs, mistakes and all, in that moment. The inclusion of the string breaking at the end of Don't Stop, for instance, is just fantastic. I'll listen to the album versions if I want perfection.

Exactly!

I was sooo severely disappointed when I heard The Dance cd for the first time. I was so looking forward to it, and it just let me down, it was so over-produced and all the music sounded watered-down. These things bummed me out:

1. The Chain lost the continued guitar solo after the tag "chain.... keep us together"; Lindsey used to keep the solo going long after that.
2. Rhiannon was completely castrated.
3. Lanslide lost the "well I hope you make it" lyric-change.
4. You Make Loving Fun lost the "edgey" guitar and sounded like Lindsey was playing under water.
5. Don't Stop... with horns... um, I don't think so.

So I voted for Live 1980.

About the only thing I liked about it was was the rebirth of Silver Springs, but it was just too tame; now I prefer the version that is on the Superstar Concert Series show from that tour.

michelej1

11-04-2009, 01:28 PM

About the only thing I liked about it was was the rebirth of Silver Springs, but it was just too tame; now I prefer the version that is on the Superstar Concert Series show from that tour.

Yes, I never understood what people liked about The Dance dvd version of Silver Springs. To me the song was much better and more electric during the tour than it ever was on the dvd. I never thought Stevie was especially passionate on the dvd. I remember being surprised that everyone was talking about that moment after the show aired on on tv, because it wasn't a highlight for me. I was more giddy about their little "thank you" exchange following Landslide than I was about Silver Springs. When I saw it live though, I loved it. Michele

HejiraNYC

11-04-2009, 01:53 PM

Yes, I never understood what people liked about The Dance dvd version of Silver Springs. To me the song was much better and more electric during the tour than it ever was on the dvd. I never thought Stevie was especially passionate on the dvd.

What? Are we watching the same thing? What I love about the "Dance" version of SS is that it spans the emotional landscape the way the original version was not quite able to. I love the way it starts off slowly, sweetly, plaintively... then after four minutes it turns into this fast, tumultuous, furious, stormy ending where she screams "you'll never get away!" amidst the musical onslaught. My favorite part of the DVD comes towards the end of Lindsey's solo, where Stevie seems to be bracing herself for the stormy ending. She assumes the hunched position, pushes the hair off her shoulders and proceeds to give the stare of death to Lindsey. Oh ****, it's on. It's sort of like watching a boxer getting limbered up for the final round.

David

11-04-2009, 01:55 PM

The marching band is a highlight for me! If you could have had a video of only one of the following, which would you pick?

Tusk from The Dance with USC marching band May 1997
Tusk from Inglewood Forum with USC marching band December 1979

David

11-04-2009, 01:58 PM

Yes, I never understood what people liked about The Dance dvd version of Silver Springs.I like the subtlety -- the hushed sense -- of the instrument playing (which may have been faked in post-production, I don't know). I remember telling the newsgroup that I was ready for the geezers in Fleetwood Mac to start sounding like Peter, Paul & Mary -- & here they were, sounding like Peter, Paul & Mary. I was thrilled with the minimalism; I had never heard the band present itself like that before.

David

11-04-2009, 02:05 PM

I like the Live '80 album because it's the real deal. The kids had been touring for 18 months... so you hear that in Stevie's ragged Rhiannon vocals. 36 months, if you count all the time represented by the performances the album included. Rhiannon, Over My Head, Say You Love Me, Don't Let Me Down Again, Don't Stop, Dreams, & Monday Morning all were recorded before the Tusk tour.

In retrospect -- that is, after hearing so many (what seems like) hundreds of audience recordings from those years -- I'd have preferred a 1980 live album with different cuts or different performances. For example, I mentioned the December 1979 performances of Tusk with the Trojan marching band. Imagine the album with THAT on it! What a missed opportunity for some maximal fun. And where the hell is The Chain of a two-disc live album? There's something perverse about some of the tracks chosen for the actual album. Again, to confound expectations? Ok, but witty surprises generally only work once & tend to annoy on repetition.

holidayroad

11-04-2009, 02:24 PM

See? That's exactly why I *DO* love Live '80! :thumbsup: It's a raw snapshot of a moment in time... even if it does show boogers in Stevie's nose, or John McVie's armpit stains ;). Everything FM ever did in the studio was polished up to a blinding sheen. Give me some grit. I don't need 400 backing musicians to 'fatten' up the sound... I wanna hear FLEETWOOD MAC! Not Fleetwood Mac plus Carlos, Brett, Steve, Taku, Neale, Sharon, Mindy, Lenny, the 126 piece USC Trojan Marching Band, etc etc etc. :nod:

I so agree with you! Believe me I was THRILLED to know that Lindsey was back in Fleetwood Mac and if it took something such as a money maker like The Dance to put him there, so be it. But, Live showed the band for what they were in a real concert, not a preconceived idea for an MTV special. Speaking of MTV, they didn't play much of any FMac from about 1991-1996. I felt they were hypocrites for being able to make money off a band they hadn't help promote in years.

Erin

11-04-2009, 03:07 PM

michelej1

11-04-2009, 03:42 PM

What? Are we watching the same thing?

Yeah, I know that everyone else really liked it. That's why I was wondering why it didn't stand out to me. It's not that I'm not crazy about the DVD and not easily stirred into a frenzy.

Ya know. I'm usually like, "Oh look at Stevie straightening Lindsey's scarf on the Today Show. I think she's worried about him being cold. I may need a valium. How can I frame that moment!" So, it doesn't take much, but I never could figure out why that Silver Springs DVD moment was water cooler talk.

Loved the song on tour though. We talk about the concerts being staged and it was, but when Lindsey would move towards Stevie and she would move away from him while scream singing, I really don't think she was faking it.

Michele

HejiraNYC

11-04-2009, 03:54 PM

Loved the song on tour though. We talk about the concerts being staged and it was, but when Lindsey would move towards Stevie and she would move away from him while scream singing, I really don't think she was faking it.

Michele

Gah! I love it when she moves her mic stand around. There's one particular clip on YouTube of SS on the Dance tour where, towards the end, Stevie is dragging the mic stand so far away from Lindsey that she ends up practically off stage somewhere next to John. It would have just seemed so much easier if she would grab the mic off the stand and carry it instead. :shrug:

daniellaaarisen

11-04-2009, 04:37 PM

Michele, I get your point about The Dance's "Silver Springs." Compared to versions we have on YouTube and in audio recordings from later on in the tour, it sure doesn't stand out in terms of emotional intensity. However, I think that people can feel how the ending of that song wasn't exactly scripted and in comparison to the rest of The Dance, it IS emotional and it IS a little jarring. You long time fans had been spoiled with emotional intensity for years and years by the time that The Dance came out. For people who were first introduced to the band with the DVD, its totally flooring... since we have nothing to really compare it to, I think. I mean, I was five when I first saw "Silver Springs" on the DVD and I vividly remember being torn up by it and crying while watching it over and over again. I think it takes a lot to affect anyone like that, let alone a little kid. So with that being said, many of you guys were used to the Lindsey/Stevie tensions for 20+ years before The Dance. Then of course there's the entire idea that Rumours had come out exactly 20 years before, and I'm sure people watched the DVD with that hyper-nostalgic mindset... I donno. But I do think "Silver Springs" is special on that DVD, even if it isn't the most powerful version we've heard from that time period.

mylittledemon

11-04-2009, 10:19 PM

Yes, I never understood what people liked about The Dance dvd version of Silver Springs.

You uh... you kidding? ;)

trackaghost

11-04-2009, 11:00 PM

I'd probably say, alongside the new songs, Landslide and Silver Springs are the highlights of The Dance. I remember just being thrilled to finally hear it performed live.

cristochango

11-04-2009, 11:12 PM

I've never heard Live 80, and I'm not a big fan of The Dance (I am, but Its not my favorite)

Id rather watch Live in Boston over The Dance

and thats what I'm basing my choice of off

michelej1

11-05-2009, 12:07 AM

You uh... you kidding? ;)

Well, it was wrong for me to say I never understood what people liked about it. There is nothing about it I don't like. I'm just saying it didn't stand out for me. Wouldn't have made my Top 10 Dance Moments list. Michele

belladonnadream

11-05-2009, 06:30 AM

Live 1980...Love the Tusk sound. That album brings back memories:nod:

chiliD

11-05-2009, 11:07 AM

If you could have had a video of only one of the following, which would you pick?

Tusk from The Dance with USC marching band May 1997
Tusk from Inglewood Forum with USC marching band December 1979

2. Since there'd be a chance that I would be in the video. (and, you'd also have basically the same people in the USC marching band who were on the studio track....with The Dance, you have the KIDS of the people who were in the USC Marching band on the album track....sort of how I picture the entire Dance project...it's a nostalgia act performing the song, not the "original" cutting edge performance....Lindsey of all people should take his own advice from his song on Mirage...."Can't Go Back".)

mylittledemon

11-05-2009, 03:27 PM

Well, it was wrong for me to say I never understood what people liked about it. There is nothing about it I don't like. I'm just saying it didn't stand out for me. Wouldn't have made my Top 10 Dance Moments list. Michele

I follow you. ;) I feel the opposite but, I get ya.

PenguinHead

11-05-2009, 07:43 PM

I would probably love the 1980 version better if they'd release all the video footage with it and put it on DVD.

Music is released primarily to be heard. The 1980 Live album was released in a time long before DVDs and MTV videos. The songs all come from different shows. Unlike The Dance, there is no concise "video footage" to correspond with the Live album. It's a great "audio" document without any need for visuals. The sound should be enough satisfaction by itself!

strandinthewind

11-05-2009, 07:48 PM

PenguinHead

11-05-2009, 08:08 PM

If the 1980 album had been from one concert (which it was not) and filmed in HDish (imagine it on Blue Ray!!!!) - many people would be picking that one. The visual of The Dance is just too compelling, esp. Silver Springs.

Well, there is certainly a lack of concert videos from Fleetwood Mac. But remember...there was no such thing as high def in 1980!!! The Live album is great because of the diversity of songs and the shows they came from. It would have been nice for them, at the time, to release a full concert on video.
But again, at that time, that was not the norm. You can't compare what could have been done then with what exists (media, technology etc...) today.

hippilil86

11-05-2009, 08:14 PM

Well, it was wrong for me to say I never understood what people liked about it. There is nothing about it I don't like. I'm just saying it didn't stand out for me. Wouldn't have made my Top 10 Dance Moments list. Michele

Ok, Michele,
What are your Top 10 Dance Moments?

I'm curious!
:-)

strandinthewind

11-05-2009, 08:17 PM

Well, there is certainly a lack of concert videos from Fleetwood Mac. But remember...there was no such thing as high def in 1980!!! The Live album is great because of the diversity of songs and the shows they came from. It would have been nice for them, at the time, to release a full concert on video.
But again, at that time, that was not the norm. You can't compare what could have been done then with what exists (media, technology etc...) today.

Well true - ya got me there.

I was trying to point out that the older concert footage from the 70's and early 80's (in whatever format and of whatever quality) seems to be venerated as the superlative era by many if not most. And, if there was a clean copy of one concert of the quality on the actual record, for most, it likely would shine brighter than The Dance. But, you are correct, the comparison is only in the abstract.

trackaghost

11-05-2009, 09:06 PM

I bet the band has loads of Tusk live footage wasting away in a basement somewhere. It makes me too sad to think about it.

strandinthewind

11-05-2009, 09:09 PM

I bet the band has loads of Tusk live footage wasting away in a basement somewhere. It makes me too sad to think about it.

I know -- it's like they are still too stoned to order a servant to send the boxes to Kinko's to put on DVD :laugh:

Moreover, they could sell it online for like $5.00 and make a fortune. Better yet, do it rightr and spend like $25,000 times five (yes CM should chip in) in production and give it away as a thank you :cool:

David

11-05-2009, 10:31 PM

I bet the band has loads of Tusk live footage wasting away in a basement somewhere. It makes me too sad to think about it.
I betcha the actual band doesn't. I betcha they don't even know about it, if they do. But there must be some good stuff stashed elsewhere -- storage facilities, what-have-you.

strandinthewind

11-05-2009, 10:35 PM

I betcha the actual band doesn't. I betcha they don't even know about it, if they do. But there must be some good stuff stashed elsewhere -- storage facilities, what-have-you.

I don't know - La Nicks has referred to the footage several times. Moreover, since the Disney doc in like 93 - more of it keeps appearing. So, someone must know something :shrug:

David

11-05-2009, 10:43 PM

I don't know - La Nicks has referred to the footage several times.Not the same thing, necessarily. I mean, certainly she remembers that old concerts were filmed -- her own solo concerts, for one. She remembers she used to film those & give copies as presents to her bandmates. Not the same thing as knowing the extent of the footage that might exist, or where it might be after all these years.

Moreover, since the Disney doc in like 93 - more of it keeps appearing. So, someone must know something :shrug:Not much more, really. Just upgraded copies of things that already ran the rounds. In the case of audio, however, virtually all our soundboards have appeared since the late 1990s. But that was thanks to some sleazy people who had access to storage, like Frank Harding (who gained that access when hired by the band -- or the label -- to help compile the box set & research the band's history). It had nothing to do with John, Mick, Lindsey, or Stevie. Those four are clueless & will forever remain so.

The next time you run into Stevie Nicks, ask her to explain some of her comments made on the Landover 1978 pro-shot video. She won't have the slightest idea what you're talking about.

mylittledemon

11-05-2009, 10:51 PM

strandinthewind

11-05-2009, 11:00 PM

Not the same thing, necessarily. I mean, certainly she remembers that old concerts were filmed -- her own solo concerts, for one. She remembers she used to film those & give copies as presents to her bandmates. Not the same thing as knowing the extent of the footage that might exist, or where it might be after all these years.

Not much more, really. Just upgraded copies of things that already ran the rounds. In the case of audio, however, virtually all our soundboards have appeared since the late 1990s. But that was thanks to some sleazy people who had access to storage, like Frank Harding (who gained that access when hired by the band -- or the label -- to help compile the box set & research the band's history). It had nothing to do with John, Mick, Lindsey, or Stevie. Those four are clueless & will forever remain so.

The next time you run into Stevie Nicks, ask her to explain some of her comments made on the Landover 1978 pro-shot video. She won't have the slightest idea what you're talking about.

Touche'

:cool:

David

11-05-2009, 11:06 PM

Touche'Oh cut it out. Send me a pm. We'll talk about the Kreutzer sonata.

michelej1

11-06-2009, 10:23 AM

Ok, Michele,
What are your Top 10 Dance Moments?

I'm curious!
:-)

Well, it will be hard for me to say without looking at the DVD again or at least having a track listing in front of me, but among my favorite moments are:

Say You Love Me

The Chain

Thank you, Lindsey. Thank you, Stevie.

Christine and Lindsey kissing when Stevie bends down to bow.

Christine's saying they had never done Don't Stop with a marching band.

Isn't that weird? That is pretty weird.

The way the singers are all staring at each other.

The way they lay down their instruments and walk off the stage after Don't Stop.

Spikey

11-06-2009, 02:00 PM

Interesting way the thread has gone.. although kinda what I would have expected. I was expecting Live to trounce The Dance, I'm glad it's not the case.

I remember listening to Live in the shower, screaming with Rhiannon, Not That Funny, etc. But the sound quality is kinda odd and the track selection as David alluded to, is quite bizarre. I could care less about Farmer's Daughter, I never want to hear FM play that ever again.

For me, it's not the DVD, although inevitably that influences you.

It's the sound. I'm not so big on the faux LB/SN romance, I care about the music.

The Dance has a superb tracklist with GOOD surprises. The Live album has a good tracklist with annoying surprises. The Dance has great sound quality. Live has okay sound quality.

I know Ken Caillat said they never released a whole concert due to one or two songs being bad in every concert, but that's every band.. I have heard many a show from the Tusk era, and there are whole performances which are superb!!

I would pick some Tusk-era bootlegs over the Live album (eg soundboard from FM rehearsing for the end of the Tusk tour). That's why I can't vote for it over the Dance, which is a genuinely excellent 'all in one' performance.

- Spike

JazmenFlowers

11-06-2009, 03:45 PM

I bet the band has loads of Tusk live footage wasting away in a basement somewhere. It makes me too sad to think about it.
oh gawd, I know. at least we have the Midnight Special footage of Rhiannon, but I would love to have another great, really live version of Rhiannon at its height...like say, from the NOLA concert...gawwwwwwwd!

this poll is tough, but I gotta go with Live 80.

shackin'up

11-06-2009, 05:42 PM

jbrownsjr

11-06-2009, 05:45 PM

Live In Boston isn't doing so well...

StandbackStevie

11-06-2009, 06:12 PM

I love them all hard choice and I voted for The Live Double Album 1980 from the Tusk Tour i do love the dance too and Live in Boston too I was at the taping of the Live in Boston so it holds a sentimental thing for being at a live recorded show and too that night first time for me to shake hands with Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham that night it was a special night to have it been recorded and released a cd/dvd is awesome and loved the say you will tour amazing. good poll.

moon

10-18-2011, 08:32 PM

Well, I choose "The Dance". I think "Live 1980" could be the best...if it had "Tusk" and "The Chain" !!!!!!! :mad: :mad:
Regards

MacFan92

10-18-2011, 08:42 PM

I gotta go with The Dance. Mostly because I prefer an entire live show, as opposed to the selected tracks featured on the 1980 Live album. Live In Boston is too short for me, and more importantly, it lacks Christine McVie.

PenguinHead

10-18-2011, 09:03 PM

The 1980 Live album. It captures the band at their peak imo. The version of Rhiannon alone is better than the entire Dance album. Plus, Over And Over, the sublime Sara, Fireflies, Don't Let Me Down Again, Not That Funny, Oh Well, The Farmer's Daughter, One More Night, the string breaking at the end of Don't Stop... pure rock and roll.

Same for me. The Dance is great because the songs are rendered so polished. But LIVE is more pure, rough and honest, with little to no support musicians -- just the five firelies.

Though I would have preferred a full concert performance, they took a less tradtional route. It's a selection of different performances - a few from the Rumours tour, a few from the Tusk tour. Oh Well and Don't Let Me Down Again are standout tracks, and the live/studio-tweaked songs. Firelies, The Farmer's Daughter, and One More Night are nice rarities.

Wish they could expand this into a box set!

PenguinHead

10-18-2011, 09:06 PM

Live In Boston isn't doing so well...

They should have included the entire show on CD.

Neal

10-19-2011, 12:17 AM

jbrownsjr

10-19-2011, 10:11 AM

They should have included the entire show on CD.

You're probably right, plus Live in Boston has the BTM factor of not having the fab 5. If BTM had a live album it would not be doing well either I suppose. :rolleyes:

jbrownsjr

10-19-2011, 10:14 AM

The 1980 Live album, but just barely.

It had so much potential but they chose to make it uneven and weird by adding soundcheck performances and overloading it with Rumours songs; a bad habit that seeps into everything they do, even to this day!

Overloaded? These songs don't appear on Live: Second Hand News, I Don't Wanna Know, You Make Lovin Fun, The Chain, Silver Springs (Bside), Songbird, Oh Daddy

bangdrum

10-19-2011, 11:07 AM

Overloaded? These songs don't appear on Live: Second Hand News, I Don't Wanna Know, You Make Lovin Fun, The Chain, Silver Springs (Bside), Songbird, Oh Daddy

No Gold Dust Woman either. :shrug:

joe

10-19-2011, 03:40 PM

Music is released primarily to be heard. The 1980 Live album was released in a time long before DVDs and MTV videos. The songs all come from different shows. Unlike The Dance, there is no concise "video footage" to correspond with the Live album. It's a great "audio" document without any need for visuals. The sound should be enough satisfaction by itself!

ah, but there IS some video footage we have seen. We have all seen Dreams, Don't Stop, Sara, Monday Morning, and portions of Not That Funny and GYOW from that 20/20 special.

If you take into consideration that Oh Well was from St Louis as Sara was (or everything except most of Stevie's vocals and the backup vocals), they filmed it as they filmed the entire concert. We just haven't seen that clip of Oh Well. Also, a film crew videoed the Cleveland 1980 show as shown on the 20/20 special since we've got portions of The Chain all the way through Songbird. That concert exists in full somewhere in ABC's vaults or wherever. They didn't just film a minute or two of each song. They had a full camera crew there. So, we could technically add GYOW, NTF, and So Afraid as having video. THAT show would be great to see. Such energy by that point in the tour although I am still a fan of the St Louis concert.

That's practically 1/2 the Live album that there is video of. As for the remaining tracks, it wouldn't shock me if there was video for all of it. Seems likely since what I just mentioned. Plus, what about that recent unearthed treasure from 1977 Australia that guy has been posting on youtube?

SteveMacD

10-19-2011, 04:00 PM

They all have fatal flaws, but the 1980 live album was the best if only because the relative lack of extra musicians.

LIB is a disaster. It's so similar to "The Dance" that it's somewhat pointless. It COULD'VE been good had they gone with songs not on "The Dance" and that were different in arrangement from the 1980 album.

WildHearted

10-19-2011, 04:20 PM

I love The Dance, but I went with Live. It's got two of my favorite versions of Landslide and Rhiannon on it, and also, Fireflies and Sara...

michelej1

10-19-2011, 04:24 PM

LIB is a disaster. It's so similar to "The Dance" that it's somewhat pointless. It COULD'VE been good had they gone with songs not on "The Dance" and that were different in arrangement from the 1980 album.

For me, the Dance was definitely better and if I could only have one, that would be it. But I think it was important to chronicle the FM line up without Christine and that LIB's existence is justified for that reason alone.

Michele

KarmaContestant

10-19-2011, 04:26 PM

I chose Live '80... it's a snapshot in time. These newer live albums are just trying to recapture what was really going on when Live '80 was recorded.

This was true when you posted it two years ago, and it's still true. The Dance is mediocre at best with a few gems, and Live In Boston isn't even listenable in my opinion. But Live 1980 - that's what a live album should be like. Every track is flawless and does an excellent job of capturing what a Fleetwood Mac concert feels like.

chiliD

10-19-2011, 04:28 PM

I've realized that the only time Fleetwood Mac gets anything "right" is when they do studio albums. Live albums & compilation albums all seem to have things that just grate on the nerves due to "what COULD'VE been".

1) Live '80: released on the tail end of the "Double Live Album" trend of the late '70's/early '80s. Felt like at the time that they were releasing a double live album ONLY because it was the trend (or HAD been the trend the previous 8 -10 years) and they were the last of the BIG bands to release one...too little, too late (see below). (while I'm venting, Heart dropped the ball not releasing a full double live album from their Dog & Butterfly tour)

2) The Dance: Sure, the Rumours-crew comeback was definitely worthy of documentation, but the CD should've followed exactly the video/LaserDisc/DVD song order...meaning it should've been a double disc set. Omitting a few songs and changing the order cheapened the CD. (that said, does anyone have an mp3 of The Dance version of "Gold Dust Woman" they'd be willing to send me? That's the only track that I'm missing from that performance.)

3) Live In Boston 2003: Just should've been left as "video only". The CD was poorly conceived and basically overly redundant.

At this point, they basically never got the ULTIMATE live album that they should've released. I think had they recorded & released their double live album in the spring of '78 (taken from their three or four night stay at the GW Forum near LA in August '77, when they were really at their peak on the concert stage), it would've surpassed Frampton Comes Alive and made it an afterthought. BUT, they were still milking Rumours (if we only knew then what we know now that it would NEVER END!) & didn't want to interrupt its success.

That way, they COULD've released a 2nd double live album in about '84, compiling its tracks from the Tusk & Mirage tours; songs that weren't on the previous live album and maybe a couple of songs that had quite different arrangements on those later tours from the previous live album. (for example, "Never Going Back Again" being a full band arrangement during the Rumours tour, but was Lindsey by himself on the Tusk & Mirage tours, and the drastic changes in "Rhiannon" from '77 to '82)

There were a few artists who dropped more than one double live album within 5 or 6 years due to either a change in direction or rearrangement of their songs or having enough new studio material in between to warrant a second live album. (using David Bowie and Kiss as the examples there)

Oh...AND...the three disc Live At The Boston Tea Party recordings should've been released on schedule in 1970 as a double live album to document the end of that era of Fleetwood Mac. Releasing it 30+ years later just made the "what if" thoughts maddening.

jbrownsjr

10-19-2011, 06:13 PM

No Gold Dust Woman either. :shrug:

Haha!! I'm turnin in my FM card, that was a major error!! Thank you Bandrum!

mylittledemon

10-19-2011, 08:05 PM

(that said, does anyone have an mp3 of The Dance version of "Gold Dust Woman" they'd be willing to send me? That's the only track that I'm missing from that performance.)

Sent you a PM big guy

PenguinHead

10-22-2011, 02:39 AM

Overloaded? These songs don't appear on Live: Second Hand News, I Don't Wanna Know, You Make Lovin Fun, The Chain, Silver Springs (Bside), Songbird, Oh Daddy

Also Angel, What Make You Think You're the One, Think About Me, Tusk, Sisters of the Moon, Save Me A Place

Except for one or two times prior to the release of Rumours, Silverr Springs was never in setlist until The Dance.

I Don't Want to Know was never performed as far as I know. I don't know why - it's the only song on Rumours they never performed. I wish they would surprise us and add it to a future set list. It's a great Stevie/Lindsey duo song.

TerraRhiannon

10-22-2011, 02:21 PM

The Dance fo sho! I mean I grew up with that album, such an amazing live performance, Stevie voice is so haunting.

I have to admit I've never listened to the other two :shrug:

I really have to get my hands on the Live In Boston DVD to finally watch that !

Neal

10-23-2011, 08:39 PM

mylittledemon

10-23-2011, 08:56 PM

I really have to get my hands on the Live In Boston DVD to finally watch that ![/COLOR]

:eek: You haven't seen it?!

Eh, it's okay. I'd give The Dance a 9/10 and LiB a 7/10. I guess it lacks the polish and seems sloppier. LiB is a better and truer representation of what you get from the band nowadays though.

SteveMacD

10-23-2011, 09:36 PM

:eek: You haven't seen it?!

Eh, it's okay. I'd give The Dance a 9/10 and LiB a 7/10. I guess it lacks the polish and seems sloppier.
Nope. It only lacks ONE key component...

http://www.fmlegacy.com/Graphics/Christine_092603.jpg

mylittledemon

10-23-2011, 10:16 PM

Nope. It only lacks ONE key component...

Oh i agree... but LiB is certainly not as well done as The Dance... i'm referring to the post production when I say "polished." What they did with GYOW was extremely silly (putting in the middle solo from The Dance)... stuff like that.

ragrsrocalot

10-24-2011, 09:45 AM

I chose FM Live 1980. It just kicks all kinds of a$$.

fleetwoodguy79

10-24-2011, 09:37 PM

If the 1980 album had been from one concert (which it was not) and filmed in HDish (imagine it on Blue Ray!!!!) - many people would be picking that one. The visual of The Dance is just too compelling, esp. Silver Springs.

I want to add some clarify here and give us all some HOPE!

While it's true that HD video did not exist back then, this concert (St Louis 1979) was filmed on 35mm film and not videotape. 35mm film is actually considered "high definition" and is of a higher resolution than current HD video technology (1080p). Notice how the older movies from the 1970's and 1980's have been remastered and brought to Blu-Ray in stunning HD clarity/clarity? We can get the same treatment for the 1979 St Louis show! There are obviously also professional multi-track audio recordings of this show as well, since many of the songs were mastered onto the 1980 live album.

I also voted for '80 Live. That album was fantastic, even if it was chopped up and lacked continuity. Lindsey's guitar playing on that album was the best he's ever played on electric - and he's never played like that since. I'm not sure if it was the drugs, the demonic makeup/suit combination, the want/need to outdo Stevie, but his playing is outstanding and is right up there with the best from the 1970's. I'm So Afraid, from the Live album is the BEST version they have ever done. Lindsey's guitar sounds EVIL!

The rest of the band sounded raw and energized during that entire album, a time that will unfortunately never come again... but... WHY can't someone go back and remaster those old videos, and bring them to Blu-Ray!? Dammit WB, TAKE MY MONEY!

mylittledemon

10-24-2011, 10:15 PM

WHY can't someone go back and remaster those old videos, and bring them to Blu-Ray!? Dammit WB, TAKE MY MONEY!

I know! AND... The Dance needs to be re-released in a widescreen/blu-ray format as well. ;)

chiliD

10-24-2011, 11:11 PM

I Don't Want to Know was never performed as far as I know. I don't know why - it's the only song on Rumours they never performed. I wish they would surprise us and add it to a future set list. It's a great Stevie/Lindsey duo song.

Not by Fleetwood Mac, anyway. Lindsey & Stevie performed it during their swan song performances as Buckingham Nicks.

iamnotafraid

10-25-2011, 01:10 AM

Nope. It only lacks ONE key component...

A skinny Stevie?

sklof ekoj a tsuj

darklinensuit

10-25-2011, 01:42 AM

The 1980 Live album. It captures the band at their peak imo. The version of Rhiannon alone is better than the entire Dance album.

:thumbsup:
The Dance sounds bland & over-rehearsed to me, and I'm not a fan of that 1997 version of "Rhiannon". Talk about a pale shadow of yesteryear. Live in Boston sounds over-done on some tracks, especially "Eyes of the World".

- Jake

jbrownsjr

10-25-2011, 03:23 PM

I know! AND... The Dance needs to be re-released in a widescreen/blu-ray format as well. ;)

Wouldn't that be nice? There are some places in the Dance DVD where the audio and video don't sync up. Perhaps it's my equip tho. :shrug:

iamnotafraid

10-25-2011, 10:49 PM

There are some places in the Dance DVD where the audio and video don't sync up. Perhaps it's my equip tho. :shrug:

You might be hearing the sweetened part of the audio.
And on "The Dance" there's a lot of that.

SteveMacD

10-25-2011, 11:47 PM

You might be hearing the sweetened part of the audio.
And on "The Dance" there's a lot of that.

There's a lot of that on all three...

And the videos.

cliffdweller

10-26-2011, 02:46 PM

What? Are we watching the same thing? What I love about the "Dance" version of SS is that it spans the emotional landscape the way the original version was not quite able to. I love the way it starts off slowly, sweetly, plaintively... then after four minutes it turns into this fast, tumultuous, furious, stormy ending where she screams "you'll never get away!" amidst the musical onslaught. My favorite part of the DVD comes towards the end of Lindsey's solo, where Stevie seems to be bracing herself for the stormy ending. She assumes the hunched position, pushes the hair off her shoulders and proceeds to give the stare of death to Lindsey. Oh ****, it's on. It's sort of like watching a boxer getting limbered up for the final round.

Excellent description and spot on. This performance and vocal is what made me a lifer.

jbrownsjr

10-26-2011, 03:05 PM

Excellent description and spot on. This performance and vocal is what made me a lifer.

I used to love the studio version so much better. Til one day I felt the emotion of Stevie to LB. Stevie/Lindsey/Christine vocals/harmonies. Linsdey's amazing solo, Christine's wonderful vamping and solo intro. Watched it over and over again til I was addicted.

It's one time I bought the love and friction between SN and LB. And further, the chemistry of them as a band of 5 is illuminated so nicely.

SteveMacD

10-27-2011, 12:26 AM

Am I the only one who thinks they're about to do "Wish You Were Here" at the beginning of SS on The Dance?

jbrownsjr

10-27-2011, 08:53 AM

Am I the only one who thinks they're about to do "Wish You Were Here" at the beginning of SS on The Dance?

Nope, I'd recognize those inversions anywhere.

Kena

10-27-2011, 09:33 AM

How can you give a proper vote if you've never heard the Live album from 1980????

I got hooked on FM when The Dance album came out, then when I saw the DVD concert...WOW! That Silver Springs is amazing! Also, I probably listened to Bleed to Love Her a million times. But... when I heard the Live album (probably only about a year ago) it took my breath away! Ok mostly the Landslide when Stevie is practically whispering the lyrics. I had goosebumps and tears rolling out of my eyes. I think I even fell to the floor...and let me tell you, those kind of moments are few and far between. Moments close to those occur often with an awesome version of a favorite song...but that Landslide got me.
Please listen to this album!!!
I'm about to give The Dance a listen and then make my decide...

caroline79

10-28-2011, 04:59 PM

I was blown away by the 1980 album when I first heard it, and The Dance will always hold a special place in my heart. I was actually listening to the 2004 album today and could not believe how good it was! Especially Lindsey's vocals on GYOW. It is just way too hard to choose.

chriskisn

10-28-2011, 07:33 PM

Pity this poll only covers the Rumours era. There are three "Live In Boston" albums from the Peter Green era that blow the others out of the water.

:shrug:

PenguinHead

10-28-2011, 07:41 PM

Am I the only one who thinks they're about to do "Wish You Were Here" at the beginning of SS on The Dance?

You are not alone. I recognized it immediately when I first saw The Dance. It's exactly the same. If you listen to the intro of the studio version of Silver Springs, the difference is very apparent.

I wish Wish You Were Here was performed as a concert closer. There is a studio outake where the instrumental coda is extended. It's very befitting of a concert ending.

David

10-28-2011, 07:58 PM

You are not alone. I recognized it immediately when I first saw The Dance. It's exactly the same.
Not exactly the same, only very close. To get technical, in "Wish You Were Here," the rolled chords are all inversions of the tonic. In "Silver Springs," the rolled chords alternate between tonic & subdominant, & incorporate a two-beat descending figure between each group of four rolls.

I have a feeling McVie was playing something similar on the studio version, but it's buried in the fade-in of the other instruments. The descending figure on the studio version sticks to a pentatonic scale (a five-tone scale, versions of which they use all over "Tango in the Night").

PenguinHead

10-30-2011, 08:47 PM

Not exactly the same, only very close. To get technical, in "Wish You Were Here," the rolled chords are all inversions of the tonic. In "Silver Springs," the rolled chords alternate between tonic & subdominant, & incorporate a two-beat descending figure between each group of four rolls.

I have a feeling McVie was playing something similar on the studio version, but it's buried in the fade-in of the other instruments. The descending figure on the studio version sticks to a pentatonic scale (a five-tone scale, versions of which they use all over "Tango in the Night").

Wow! I coudn't say it better...because I have no idea what any of that means! But thank you anyway. Wish I had a technical knowledge of music.

jbrownsjr

10-31-2011, 02:41 PM

Wow! I coudn't say it better...because I have no idea what any of that means! But thank you anyway. Wish I had a technical knowledge of music.

It just means that Silver Springs intro on the Dance has a little more to it in notes and rhythm than Wish You Were Here.

Richard B

10-31-2011, 02:44 PM

I know! AND... The Dance needs to be re-released in a widescreen/blu-ray format as well. ;)

How I'd love this, but doubt it will ever happen. The Dance was filmed full screen and if it did find its way to BD, it will have black bars. :(

mylittledemon

10-31-2011, 03:43 PM

How I'd love this, but doubt it will ever happen. The Dance was filmed full screen and if it did find its way to BD, it will have black bars. :(

Oh bummer. I was hoping that they had originally filmed it in WS and just cropped it because everything was pretty much 4:3 back in 1997. Harrumpf.

Richard B

10-31-2011, 05:27 PM

Oh bummer. I was hoping that they had originally filmed it in WS and just cropped it because everything was pretty much 4:3 back in 1997. Harrumpf.

I'm sure MTV insisted on it at the time. So annoying.
But I guess if it were to arrive anyway on BD, at least the audio could be done really well in HD.

fleetwoodguy79

11-02-2011, 07:15 PM

Oh bummer. I was hoping that they had originally filmed it in WS and just cropped it because everything was pretty much 4:3 back in 1997. Harrumpf.

This show was more than likely filmed onto BetaTape, at roughly 480i resolution, which is that of DVD. There is not a high-def version of this show, as the show was filmed in standard definition video. It was at the time when HD was just starting to make its way into the marketplace...

Conga

11-04-2011, 01:10 AM

Still The Dance. In fact it was the first Mac release I had ever heard so I remember hearing some of the original songs and thinking they sounded "weird". I was a kid, mmkay? Anyway it's weird that I started with The Dance and then went to Kirwan and Welch eras and then to Tusk and became ensconced in the Rumours-Era. Couldn't be a more roundabout way, but there it is.

I only have the 1980 Live one on vinyl, but I appreciate it. It's a lost relic from my favourite album era, but the rehearsal tracks are kind of limp to me. But I like the rawness; same could be said for Live in Boston.