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vivfox

09-26-2009, 11:36 PM

Don't you agree the beginning of this song rips off Fleetwood Mac?

SLADE- Gudbye To Jane

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ohwell

09-27-2009, 02:32 AM

vivfox

09-27-2009, 10:22 AM

:confused: No, not at all. :shrug:

You can't hear the resemblance?:shocked:

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ohwell

09-27-2009, 12:58 PM

You can't hear the resemblance?:shocked:

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I had to listen to station man again... yeah, they are similar. :nod: I'd probably never come to think of it myself if you had not pointed it out though - Gudbye to Jane sounds typical of Slade and Station man sounds like Kirwan... the opening riff is kinda generic too, can't really be called rip off. :shrug:

fleetwoodtrick

09-27-2009, 01:01 PM

0_o I would have thought it was Station Man if that guy didn't start singing different lyrics.

ohwell

09-27-2009, 01:08 PM

0_o I would have thought it was Station Man if that guy didn't start singing different lyrics.

:confused: They're two totally different songs to me. The tempo is totally different too, I can never imagine 'Station man' being played like that.

Are you talking about a rumours-era version of station man that I havent heard of, or something?

fleetwoodtrick

09-27-2009, 01:11 PM

:confused: They're two totally different songs to me. The tempo is totally different too, I can never imagine 'Station man' being played like that.

Are you talking about a rumours-era version of station man that I havent heard of, or something?

I haven't heard any pre-White Album Station Mans, so that could be why. :laugh:

ohwell

09-27-2009, 01:17 PM

I haven't heard any pre-White Album Station Mans, so that could be why. :laugh:

I've only read that they used to play 'Station man' live with Lindsey and Stevie, never heard it myself.

I guess that Lindsey/Stevie ripped of Slade in that case, since 'Gudbye...' was released in 1972.

fleetwoodtrick

09-27-2009, 01:19 PM

I've only read that they used to play 'Station man' live with Lindsey and Stevie, never heard it myself.

I guess that Lindsey/Stevie ripped of Slade in that case, since 'Gudbye...' was released in 1972.

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:D

ohwell

09-27-2009, 01:34 PM

Wouter Vuijk

09-27-2009, 02:44 PM

Nice. :) Yeah, I can see the resemblance more in that version.

Same here :cool:

zoork_1

09-27-2009, 04:30 PM

Quite different songs to me, (hmm, thanks this reminds me that S rocked...)

/z

bretonbanquet

09-27-2009, 04:37 PM

When they first started playing "Station Man" live in 1970, it was much slower, and it gradually sped up during 1970. They stopped playing it sometime in 1971, and it was only when it got revived by the '75 line-up that it sounded anything like "Gudbuy T'Jane". Even then, I think it's only a vague resemblance - the Slade song was always much faster :shrug: Slade always did their own thing, and I doubt they'd have been listening to "Kiln House" at that time, to be honest. :)

chiliD

09-28-2009, 10:40 AM

Generic riff...

...there are hundreds of songs (before and after "Station Man") with a similar riff to that, especially from that era. If you dig through the Mott The Hoople catalogue, you can probably find two or three just from them.

They stopped playing it sometime in 1971, and it was only when it got revived by the '75 line-up...

Actually, I heard them play it in 1974 during the Heroes Are Hard To Find tour. (They did two Kirwan tunes that night..."Station Man" & "Jewel Eyed Judy")...unfortunately, even with all my detective work, I've yet to find a recording of that show; it was amazing!

slipkid

09-28-2009, 01:07 PM

Phil Lesh even admitted where the song's inspiration came from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ph4iM98vks&feature=related

There's a bit of "tuning" before the song, jump to 2:04.

bretonbanquet

09-28-2009, 05:15 PM

Actually, I heard them play it in 1974 during the Heroes Are Hard To Find tour. (They did two Kirwan tunes that night..."Station Man" & "Jewel Eyed Judy")...unfortunately, even with all my detective work, I've yet to find a recording of that show; it was amazing!

Never knew that - I would've liked to hear Bob do those :)

aleuzzi

09-29-2009, 04:53 PM

I can't imagine Bob singing either or those Kirwan tunes. Odd choice for him. But I love Station Man!

michelej1

03-01-2012, 11:43 PM

Excerpt from an article on Black Crowe Robinson:
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Sporting contributions by such jam-band elite as Warren Haynes, John Medeski and Larry Campbell, the record is alive with loose grooves, wide-open interplay and the kind of focused but wonderfully unvarnished electric romps that spin the years back to the late '60s and early '70s. In fact, a standout on the album is a cover of the Danny Kirwan-era Fleetwood Mac nugget Station Man, where Robinson luxuriates over a lazy, hazy boogie groove.

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"Fleetwood Mac is just one of those bands that went through so many changes but was always great in every incarnation — from the Peter Green blues songs right up through the pop stuff with Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham. They were always great, and always great for different reasons.
"Station Man was just a song I found myself listening to. I felt I could do it some justice, so I cut it."

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jdf

03-02-2012, 02:31 PM

I agree with vivfox, the intro riff sounds really very similar, the rest of course is completely different! :)

michelej1

01-11-2015, 03:11 PM

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PenguinHead

01-18-2015, 03:47 AM

Old thread! But I just found it. The guitar riffs are very much like Station Man. This could either be a deliberate rip off or an untended coincidence.

I really like the original album version.
I like the original live slow-burn version.
I was unaware it was performed in 1974 with just Christine and Bob Welch?? Would love to hear that! I wish there was comprehensive documentation of the set lists from all the performances circa 1968-1974.

I absolutely love the 1975-1976 live Buckingham Nickified version. Lindsey and Stevie did a great job reinventing the Fleetwood Mac songs that came before them. It's understandable why most of those songs disappeared from the set lists. Only Oh Well was the last song standing. When Rick Vito joined the band, he naturally gave homage to the Peter Green era.

Christine has such amazing run of songs from 1971-1974 . It's too bad she didn't occasionall.y drop one of those songs into the set lists from time to time. I was hoping, on this recent tour, she would have performed Why. Even if it was unknown to a large fraction of the audience, they would have loved it anyway. 'Wow...is that one of her new songs?"