Rate Members In Order Of I.Q.

[David]

Rate the members of F. Mac in the order of their I.Q., highest to lowest. Do your best, even if you have a low I.Q.

1. Rick Vito
2. Danny Kirwan
3. Bob Brunning
4. Lindsey Buckingham
5. Dave Mason
6. Bob Weston
7. Bob Welch
8. Christine McVie
9. Bekka Bramlett
10. John McVie
11. Dave Walker
12. Mick Fleetwood
13. Peter Green
14. Stevie Nicks

I didn't rate Jeremy because it would be rude since he reads the forum, but I will say that I think he is one of the higher I.Q.s in the band's history. Stevie Nicks is easily the dumbest. But she's the biggest star, so there ya go. :nod:

[jbrownsjr]

music IQ or Life IQ?

[fleetwoodtrick]

14. Stevie Nicks
Stevie Nicks is easily the dumbest.

Someday when I am famous and Stevie Nicks is my best friend, I will make sure that she never goes on the Ledge. :mad:

[mylittledemon]

music IQ or Life IQ?

Arent they, ultimately, the same? ;)

Someday when I am famous and Stevie Nicks is my best friend,

:rolleyes: HA! yeah, good luck with that...

[fleetwoodtrick]

:rolleyes: HA! yeah, good luck with that...

You sound like my parents. :(

But anything can happen! :woohoo:

[David]

Someday when I am famous and Stevie Nicks is my best friend, I will make sure that she never goes on the Ledge. :mad:Nobody but NOBODY sings Sisters of the Moon like Stevie Nicks.

She didn't need an I.Q. to create magick & smaf & castle-dwelling, windswept passions & wintry emotions, tasting like vanilla, pasteboard, & starched milk along my upper lip, where I need a towel to wipe it off gently, gently, gently into that good night. :angel:

Stevie Nicks influenced me as a poet. Here's my latest poem.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Get out of the bed
If you gotta go poo.

This ^ can be sung using the chord changes in Outside the Rain.

[Erin]

I'm not going to rate everyone's intelligence but I think John's the smartest. He has a keen ability to keep his mouth shut. I admire that.

[fleetwoodtrick]

Nobody but NOBODY sings Sisters of the Moon like Stevie Nicks.

She didn't need an I.Q. to create magick & smaf & castle-dwelling, windswept passions & wintry emotions, tasting like vanilla, pasteboard, & starched milk along my upper lip, where I need a towel to wipe it off gently, gently, gently into that good night. :angel:

Stevie Nicks influenced me as a poet. Here's my latest poem.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Get out of the bed
If you gotta go poo.

This ^ can be sung using the chord changes in Outside the Rain.

You know... I'm really not sure how to reply to that. :shrug: So here's a picture of a platypus that I hope you all will enjoy.

http://www.ansci.wisc.edu/jjp1/ansci_repro/misc/project_websites_08/thur/monotremes/platypus1.jpg

[brysondt]

Nobody but NOBODY sings Sisters of the Moon like Stevie Nicks.

She didn't need an I.Q. to create magick & smaf & castle-dwelling, windswept passions & wintry emotions, tasting like vanilla, pasteboard, & starched milk along my upper lip, where I need a towel to wipe it off gently, gently, gently into that good night. :angel:

Stevie Nicks influenced me as a poet. Here's my latest poem.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Get out of the bed
If you gotta go poo.

This ^ can be sung using the chord changes in Outside the Rain.

Oh David.....

1. Lindsey Buckingham
2. Stevie Nicks
3. Christine McVie
4. Mick Fleetwood
5. John McVie

I can't rate the others because I haven't heard them speak enough. However, I honestly think Stevie is smart. Of course she may be dramatic at times and even seem a bit flakey, but she really has a talent. Her lyrics are are so unique but also so universal in one's life. And the fact that she impresses Lindsey so much with her ability to just sit down and clunk on the piano and come up with something really cool, is proof that she is a sheer genius. Her geniusness plus Lindsey's brilliantness has equaled amazingness.

[nailatixela]

Well this is interesting. :lol: I'll take a stab at how the band member's IQ always came off to me. Not really based of each person musically.

Lindsey Buckingham
John McVie
Bob Welch
Christine McVie
Rick Vito
Mick Fleetwood
Bekka Bramlett
Billy Burnette
Stevie Nicks
Peter Green
Danny Kirwan

Just how they come off to me from what I've heard about these people. ;) We don't really know for sure.

[daniellaaarisen]

So I don't think Stevie is a genius by any means, but I think she has better street smarts than we realize. No doubt about it-- the woman always knew how to play some very important cards if we entirely forget about 1986-1997.

And I also believe she is the best poet of the band, even if not the best lyricist. However, I don't believe she is super consistent with the quality of her writing. But read the words to "Crystal", "Rhiannon", "Gold Dust Woman", "Long Distance Winner", "Planets of the Universe", "Kind Of Woman", "Wild Heart", "Trouble in Shangri-La".... I could list many more.

I don't feel right judging the individual member's IQs but I do have my opinions on their innate musical ability. Stevie isn't high on my list in terms of natural born talent MUSICALLY, especially in the shadow of so many freakin' phenomenal guitarists and writers dating back to the very beginnings of Mac.

:shrug:

[nailatixela]

So I don't think Stevie is a genius by any means, but I think she has better street smarts than we realize. No doubt about it-- the woman always knew how to play some very important cards if we entirely forget about 1986-1997.


What important cards? 86 - 94 must have been hell for her health wise. And she was becoming less popular and gaining weight, that couldn't have helped things. I wouldn't say those were her brightest times, except when she got off the meds and lost the weight.

[cristochango]

Stevie did go to some of college.
did any of the other members do that?

[mylittledemon]

You sound like my parents. :(

But anything can happen! :woohoo:

HA! I am an old man. ;)

And you are right. I met Buckingham and McVie, so go figure :nod:

[daniellaaarisen]

What important cards? 86 - 94 must have been hell for her health wise. And she was becoming less popular and gaining weight, that couldn't have helped things. I wouldn't say those were her brightest times, except when she got off the meds and lost the weight.

For one, I don't think her stage persona was a coincidence-- she saw people grab onto the Rhiannon image and she ran with that for the next 30+ years of her career. From what I know, that was at least partially a conscious decision and I don't think she would have ever reached legend status without such a distinguished aura.

Also, I know that a lot of people believe that many of the men in Stevie's life didn't respect her as much as she thinks they did-- yet you can't deny that she knew how to use her sexuality wisely. She's slept with some of the most renowned artists of her time, also boosting her appearance as a sex symbol, again attributing to her level of fame. Plus, she got two great Bella Donna duets out of the deal :)

I think she can do some really ditzy things and I wouldn't bet my money on her to out-smart or musically triumph over most Fleetwood Mac members. Yet you can't deny the woman knows what she's doing.

[nailatixela]

She is an interesting person, that is for sure. The most interesting in the band. And her own little world draws a lot of other people in too. I'm not sure if that is really brains, that is more like dumb luck. Or to put it more postively, she is just able to relate to people and express her thoughts well on paper. It's not like she or any of Fleetwood Mac tries really hard to sell us a bunch of stuff that we would buy. Seems like no brainers to us but they don't expose/sell themself like other aritists do.

But I don't really think that she had a high IQ. But she proves you don't need to be Albert Einstein to do well in life.

[Nikolaj]

As someone already beat me to the punch pointing out, Stevie does have several years of college in her background, and she worked in a dentist's office for an entire day!
She was a major drug addict who managed never to get arrested, and never photographed in an entirely incriminating or scandalous manner. More than her being fortunate, which she was, it shows she had brains and survival instincts.
Stevie was able to keep the love and devotion of her father, mother, family and fans when many addicts wind up completely abandoned by those closest to them (Judy Garland, for one, who was no dope, but wore everyone out.)
Stevie, also, far and away, had the most success of any member of the band, though many have pointed out her talent wasn't as prodigious as Lindsey's. If any of the other members of Mac were more intelligent than Stevie, they weren't too smart about being left with (gold) dust in their faces, no member of Fleetwood Mac even came close to her career achievements on their own, compared to her.
Imo, imo, imo, I must stress, for any offended: Stevie is the clear choice for the most intelligent member of Fleetwood Mac, by far :)
(and to think, just a few days ago, I was completely slamming her in a thread on the Nicks Ledge board, because of what I think is a spiritual/ethical recklessness that makes me feel creepy, just in one certain song- 'Sorcerer'. I was wisely advised not to take 'it' so literally)-

[jbrownsjr]

Stevie did go to some of college.
did any of the other members do that?

I think Christine has a degree in Art... and an equiv of a Doctorate in Music by some other College...

Little help Michele?

[mylittledemon]

I think Christine has a degree in Art... and an equiv of a Doctorate in Music by some other College...

Little help Michele?

Close... she got a teaching degree...in art(?) of some kind.

[cristochango]

whats imo mean?

[mylittledemon]

It's lazy for "in my opinion" :lol:

[Black_Moon]

I'd say Lindsey, at least in terms of book-smart intelligence, is probably the cleverest out of all the members in Fleetwood Mac. I mean, just read his interviews, I get brain ache trying to decipher them.

Don't underestimate the power of Stevie though. I think we're rating her as being more unintelligent than she actually is. I believe some of the things she says is for effect, to keep up with the whole 'flaky, hippie' image thing. She seems to be eloquent - but it shows more in the way she writes - and very street wise. Like Nikolaj said, she never got caught with the drugs thing and Columbia were probably thankful when she kicked her addiction.

Anyway, don't conveniently forget that Mick was declared bankrupt three times or something.

[chriskisn]

Well I'd like to vote for Billy Burnette but he seems to have been forgotten :(

[cristochango]

It's lazy for "in my opinion" :lol:

thanks haha

[golddustdrummer]

I'd say Lindsey, at least in terms of book-smart intelligence, is probably the cleverest out of all the members in Fleetwood Mac. I mean, just read his interviews, I get brain ache trying to decipher them.


big words don't always mean intelligence ;)
I have to wonder if he doesn't just sit around with a thesaurus.


(before anyone jumps me...yes, I do believe he is probably the most intelligent)

[David]

She seems to be eloquent - but it shows more in the way she writes - and very street wise.Actually, it's Stevie's songwriting that makes me rate her I.Q. the way I do. I think she sounds shallow in her lyrics, which are almost completely devoid of the one quality that represents "brain" to me in songs & verse -- wit. Rolling Stone critics used to characterize her writing as "junior high school girl" & I never disagreed with that.

[golddustdrummer]

Actually, it's Stevie's songwriting that makes me rate her I.Q. the way I do. I think she sounds shallow in her lyrics, which are almost completely devoid of the one quality that represents "brain" to me in songs & verse -- wit. Rolling Stone critics used to characterize her writing as "junior high school girl" & I never disagreed with that.

"My songs don't change much over the years.
I write much the same way I did when I was 16.
I'm no better on guitar or piano.
I do exactly what I always did:
I just write about what's happening to me at the moment."
BAM Magazine Interview, 1981
http://www.nicksfix.com/bam9-11-81.htm

she may not be the smartest, but she's honest.
and I'll take honest, heart-filled lyrics over brainy, pretentious bullsh!t anyday

[rubytuesday]

I'm not going to rate everyone's intelligence but I think John's the smartest. He has a keen ability to keep his mouth shut. I admire that......didn't I hear he waws a republican though? :sorry:

[aleuzzi]

Impossible to answer this question! All of them possess different kinds of intelligences. But if I was sticking to musical intelligence (itself a broad category), I'd say this...

1. Lindsey/Peter (in vastly different ways, they know how to get the sound they want when they want it)
2. Christine (it takes true wisdom and intelligence to play with subtlety for the sake of a group sound, as opposed to hogging spotlights and selfishly pushing oneself out front; she isn't as much reserved as she's generous...)
3. Danny (he knew how to create searing set guitar solos and to arrange music economically)
4. Stevie (she is not proficient in any instrument but she always knows what to do with her voice and how to wrap it around anyone else's...)
5. Bob Welch (he's not a great singer but he wrote great songs and knew how to talk-sing them in such a way that showed them off...)
6. Rick Veto, Jeremy Spencer...

[jbrownsjr]

Impossible to answer this question! All of them possess different kinds of intelligences. But if I was sticking to musical intelligence (itself a broad category), I'd say this...

1. Lindsey/Peter (in vastly different ways, they know how to get the sound they want when they want it)
2. Christine (it takes true wisdom and intelligence to play with subtlety for the sake of a group sound, as opposed to hogging spotlights and selfishly pushing oneself out front; she isn't as much reserved as she's generous...)
3. Danny (he knew how to create searing set guitar solos and to arrange music economically)
4. Stevie (she is not proficient in any instrument but she always knows what to do with her voice and how to wrap it around anyone else's...)
5. Bob Welch (he's not a great singer but he wrote great songs and knew how to talk-sing them in such a way that showed them off...)
6. Rick Veto, Jeremy Spencer...

Veto .... ur busted too :D

[Erin]

.....didn't I hear he waws a republican though? :sorry:

What does that have to do with intelligence? You may not like their views on issues, but it hardly makes them less intelligent. There are plenty of idiots in the Democratic party as well. For the record I'm an Independent, and don't have much use for either party.

[The Chain]

she may not be the smartest, but she's honest.
and I'll take honest, heart-filled lyrics over brainy, pretentious bullsh!t anyday

:nod: Couldn't have said it better myself

[David]

she may not be the smartest, but she's honest.
and I'll take honest, heart-filled lyrics over brainy, pretentious bullsh!t anydayStevie manages to get both qualities into her songs: her own airhead ramblings & the Oscar Wilde phrases she steals! :laugh:

[jedw]

14. Stevie Nicks
Stevie Nicks is easily the dumbest. But she's the biggest star, so there ya go. :nod:

Actually I genuinly believe she is very intelligent, based on her often complicated lyrics and just some of the things she comes out with in interviews, she seems very well read etc; I know this is not the same as IQ, BUT I do believe shes very smart.

Lindsey is a genius, and it shows.

I really can't rate the members though.

[CADreaming]

Actually, it's Stevie's songwriting that makes me rate her I.Q. the way I do. I think she sounds shallow in her lyrics, which are almost completely devoid of the one quality that represents "brain" to me in songs & verse -- wit. Rolling Stone critics used to characterize her writing as "junior high school girl" & I never disagreed with that.

Hey, that's just the poet that she is... ;)

But, she's smart enough to be richer than any of us! :wavey: (I think)...

[daniellaaarisen]

Actually, it's Stevie's songwriting that makes me rate her I.Q. the way I do. I think she sounds shallow in her lyrics, which are almost completely devoid of the one quality that represents "brain" to me in songs & verse -- wit. Rolling Stone critics used to characterize her writing as "junior high school girl" & I never disagreed with that.

There's a big difference between intelligence and maturity.

Whether someone agrees with your above statement or not, its unavoidable that she can manipulate words (specifically images) to fit her purpose beautifully.

[David]

Whether someone agrees with your above statement or not, its unavoidable that she can manipulate words (specifically images) to fit her purpose beautifully.I can think of three or four examples with artful phrases or interesting images. Otherwise, I would say that Madame Stevie is no more gifted at poetry or prose than my beloved grandpa is. In my view, Stevie's talents are in singing & performing. She has cool visual style. But we're getting off the I.Q. track of the thread here. I think Rick Vito has the highest I.Q. (ability to learn, understand, & solve abstract problems) of anyone in the band, possibly excepting Bob Welch.

[trackaghost]

I can think of three or four examples with artful phrases or interesting images. Otherwise, I would say that Madame Stevie is no more gifted at poetry or prose than my beloved grandpa is. In my view, Stevie's talents are in singing & performing. She has cool visual style. But we're getting off the I.Q. track of the thread here. I think Rick Vito has the highest I.Q. (ability to learn, understand, & solve abstract problems) of anyone in the band, possibly excepting Bob Welch.

But Bob Welch is only number seven in your list! And how come you left out Billy Burnette? That low, eh?

[trackaghost]

Rate the members of F. Mac in the order of their I.Q., highest to lowest. Do your best, even if you have a low I.Q.

1. Rick Vito
2. Danny Kirwan
3. Bob Brunning
4. Lindsey Buckingham
5. Dave Mason
6. Bob Weston
7. Bob Welch
8. Christine McVie
9. Bekka Bramlett
10. John McVie
11. Dave Walker
12. Mick Fleetwood
13. Peter Green
14. Stevie Nicks

I didn't rate Jeremy because it would be rude since he reads the forum, but I will say that I think he is one of the higher I.Q.s in the band's history. Stevie Nicks is easily the dumbest. But she's the biggest star, so there ya go. :nod:

Why is Bekka higher than John?

[FMlex]

I don't feel like going through all three pages of this thread, but here's my two cents:

I think that Lindsey is a genius.
Controlling, yes.
But he's a freaking genius. On the guitar, in the studio...

I also think that Stevie is pretty brilliant herself.
I absolutely love her songs and find the majority of her lyrics very poetic and deep.

And to wrap up the main songwriters of my favorite FM lineup, I'd say that Chris is pretty smart herself. She wrote great catchy songs. Plus I think she would be hilarious to be around when she's drunk :lol:

[fleetwoodtrick]

Actually, it's Stevie's songwriting that makes me rate her I.Q. the way I do. I think she sounds shallow in her lyrics, which are almost completely devoid of the one quality that represents "brain" to me in songs & verse -- wit. Rolling Stone critics used to characterize her writing as "junior high school girl" & I never disagreed with that.

Do really enjoy raining on my parade that much!? If Stevie writes like a junior high school girl, then what are you calling me!? I most definitely do not have Stevie's writing capabilites, and I'm going to be a softmore in high school! :/

[michelej1]

4. Stevie (she is not proficient in any instrument but she always knows what to do with her voice and how to wrap it around anyone else's...)

That reminds me of what Lindsey said about Stevie in performing songwriter.

What I like about her songwriting is her sense of rhythm. It's superb. Obviously you have to like her lyrics and her voice, but she does a lot with a very little. Sometimes if you examine her melodies, they are not particularly elaborate. She can do repetitive phrases, but it's just how she does it and where she stops doing it, and where she makes a little change up and how I seem to be able to move sections across that change what's going on beneath it.

Michele

[David]

I most definitely do not have Stevie's writing capabilites, and I'm going to be a softmore in high school! :/You most definitely do, pal. Your writing -- your posts here -- is more enjoyable than your idol's prose.

[rubytuesday]

What makes lindsey a genius? People use the word too much. He seems like an intelligent person and is a great guitarist/songwriter. It takes a bit more than that to be a genius.

Stevie's lyrics definitely aren't a sign of great intelligence tho!

[grace_face]

I find this question really rude and I'm not going to give my opinion because it's redundant. I just find it totally disrespectful that someone would create this post and that others would respond to it seriously.

All the members of FM are intelligent and sensitive individuals in their own way. End of story.

[rubytuesday]

It's probably a bit rude. I don't think I owe anyone the respect of not answering tho. Who cares what anyone here thinks?

[OldTimer]

I think Rick Vito has the highest I.Q. (ability to learn, understand, & solve abstract problems) of anyone in the band, possibly excepting Bob Welch.
Cool that you put Rick first, David! :thumbsup: Always pleasant to see the occasional good word about him here. If you read/listen to Rick's interviews, you can't help but be impressed by his class, his wit, and his ability to be articulate without being pompous.

IIRC, Rick graduated from college in Philly before heading west to make a name for himself with his guitar. It was asked earlier, but I'm curious as to how many of the band's past and present members are college grads?

"(ability to learn, understand, & solve abstract problems)"
I'm beginning to suspect David was in the math club with Rick in college...

P. S. A rude question? :shrug: Good heavens, we've discussed Stevie's boobs, S&L's sex lives (together and/or separately), Chris's hot legs, Mick's financial escapades -- why on earth would discussing intelligence be off-limits?

[GoldDustOrphan]

Stevie slept with two members of Fleetwood Mac, therefore she is the smartest.
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[brysondt]

[QUOTE=GoldDustOrphan;839563]Stevie slept with two members of Fleetwood Mac, therefore she is the smartest.
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LOLOL--True. I say, if you can pull off still touring and being civil people after you've slept with 2 men that you work closely with, you are damn smart. And I think Mick comes in right behind Stevie with his IQ, I take back Lindsey being the second smartest, because Mick slept with Stevie and THEN still cheesed in Lindsey's face was friends with him--that also qualifies him for pimp status. I love this band so much.

[OldTimer]

Stevie slept with two members of Fleetwood Mac, therefore she is the smartest.

On the other hand, it could be a ringing endorsement as to the intelligence of the other fourteen who didn't. :D

Edit: I have to add, your sig pic is terribly unrealistic -- I mean, really, Stevie is nowhere near as tanned as P. Anderson. :p
Edited again: Ah, I see the pic has been deleted. Good, I can sleep without nightmares now.

[Black_Moon]

Lindsey is a genius. If we're saying Stevie is intelligent for sleeping with two (possibly three, John you sly fox you) members of Fleetwood Mac, Lindsey is moreso for sleeping with Stevie in the first place.

[Gailh]

[QUOTE=GoldDustOrphan;839563]Stevie slept with two members of Fleetwood Mac, therefore she is the smartest.
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So did Christine (possibly)

Gail

[mylittledemon]

I find this question really rude and I'm not going to give my opinion because it's redundant. I just find it totally disrespectful that someone would create this post and that others would respond to it seriously.

All the members of FM are intelligent and sensitive individuals in their own way. End of story.

Rude? Surely not. The band has heard worse things about themselves.

Tasteless? Probably. That's why I haven't "rated" any of the members for myself... even for "fun" ;)

[jbrownsjr]

Rude? Surely not. The band has heard worse things about themselves.

Tasteless? Probably. That's why I haven't "rated" any of the members for myself... even for "fun" ;)

Just wait til we rate the ledgies!!! ;)

[GODDESS6]

For one, I don't think her stage persona was a coincidence-- she saw people grab onto the Rhiannon image and she ran with that for the next 30+ years of her career. From what I know, that was at least partially a conscious decision and I don't think she would have ever reached legend status without such a distinguished aura.

Also, I know that a lot of people believe that many of the men in Stevie's life didn't respect her as much as she thinks they did-- yet you can't deny that she knew how to use her sexuality wisely. She's slept with some of the most renowned artists of her time, also boosting her appearance as a sex symbol, again attributing to her level of fame. Plus, she got two great Bella Donna duets out of the deal :)

I think she can do some really ditzy things and I wouldn't bet my money on her to out-smart or musically triumph over most Fleetwood Mac members. Yet you can't deny the woman knows what she's doing.

amen:nod:~

[vivfox]

I find this question really rude and I'm not going to give my opinion because it's redundant. I just find it totally disrespectful that someone would create this post and that others would respond to it seriously.

All the members of FM are intelligent and sensitive individuals in their own way. End of story.

ooo baby, ooo, said ooo

[GoldDustOrphan]

ooo baby, ooo, said ooo

That is the best reply so far.

[LikeAWillow]

14. Stevie Nicks

I didn't rate Jeremy because it would be rude since he reads the forum, but I will say that I think he is one of the higher I.Q.s in the band's history. Stevie Nicks is easily the dumbest. But she's the biggest star, so there ya go. :nod:

I don't like vague comparisons. Give me a number. What do you put her IQ at, David? I call 120.


This is nonsense.

[jbrownsjr]

ooo baby, ooo, said ooo

hahahahahaha!!!! ur crackin me up

[mylittledemon]

Just wait til we rate the ledgies!!! ;)

:lol:

I am DEF staying out of that one.

[jbrownsjr]

:lol:

I am DEF staying out of that one.

All Stevie fans are at the bottom!!!! bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

[fleetwoodtrick]

You most definitely do, pal. Your writing -- your posts here -- is more enjoyable than your idol's prose.

I'm sorry David, I didn't mean to sound snippy or anything! I had pep band practice for 4 hours that day (And the day after!:mad:) , and was feeling angry. I love clairinet, but not that much. :mad:


And thank you, although I strongly disagree! I am no where near as awesome as Stevie Nicks in any way!

[iamnotafraid]

1. iamnotafraid.
2. Lindsey.
3. Christine.
4. Stevie.
5. Mick.
6. John.

You might could flip the Mick/John ranking.

[sjpdg]

Rate the members of F. Mac in the order of their I.Q., highest to lowest. Do your best, even if you have a low I.Q.

1. Rick Vito
2. Danny Kirwan
3. Bob Brunning
4. Lindsey Buckingham
5. Dave Mason
6. Bob Weston
7. Bob Welch
8. Christine McVie
9. Bekka Bramlett
10. John McVie
11. Dave Walker
12. Mick Fleetwood
13. Peter Green
14. Stevie Nicks

I didn't rate Jeremy because it would be rude since he reads the forum, but I will say that I think he is one of the higher I.Q.s in the band's history. Stevie Nicks is easily the dumbest. But she's the biggest star, so there ya go. :nod:

Thanks David. This is a great thread!:thumbsup:

Ok. I'll take a stab at this one. Just like another post, I'm rating solely based on having heard these members speak at various times. Those members left off my list are only because I haven't heard them speak, not because I don't think they have a high enough IQ to be rated!:]

1. Lindsey Buckingham
2. Rick Vito
3. John McVie
4. Mick Fleetwood
5. Christine McVie
6. Billy Burnette
7. Peter Green (honestly I think prior to the LSD he was probably one of the most intelligent members of the band ever)
8. Stevie Nicks (when she's not talking in circles)
9. Jeremy Spencer (based solely on his contributions to the Peter Green Story documentary I watched on Youtube this weekend, no offense meant, but the man seemed to talk in circles and didn't seem totally in touch with reality)

[sjpdg]

ooo baby, ooo, said ooo

Awesome!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[sjpdg]

I find this question really rude and I'm not going to give my opinion because it's redundant. I just find it totally disrespectful that someone would create this post and that others would respond to it seriously.

All the members of FM are intelligent and sensitive individuals in their own way. End of story.

I'm with OldTimer on this one. We discuss virtually everything else about this band and it's members. Why not this? It's just our own opinions. We could be spot on or ridiculously wrong. What does it matter?

[jbrownsjr]

I'm with OldTimer on this one. We discuss virtually everything else about this band and it's members. Why not this? It's just our own opinions. We could be spot on or ridiculously wrong. What does it matter?

Exactly... and David got 67 replies... must be worth talkin about...

[TrueFaith77]

I won't rank them by IQ. I don't believe in IQ. I think I have a genius-level IQ, and I know I am stupid.

But I do have a story that pertains.

A friend of mine--whose an expert in all the arts, and, thus, a passing admirer of Mac's masterpiece trilogy--said to me once (for reasons too complicated to get into):

"Lindsey is a genius. But Stevie is the smart one. [pause] Well, they're BOTH geniuses, but Stevie is the smart one."

[Cornflake Girl]

What makes lindsey a genius? People use the word too much. He seems like an intelligent person and is a great guitarist/songwriter. It takes a bit more than that to be a genius.

Stevie's lyrics definitely aren't a sign of great intelligence tho!

I think Lindsey tries too hard to assert himself as 'highly intelligent'. Lindsey seems to take the simplest idea and explain it in a convoluted way, to me it takes someone far more intelligent to explain complex ideas in a simple way.I'm not saying he is unitelligent at all, just not the 'genuis' he wants to come across as.

I don't think you can rank people in order of I.Q., there are so many different types of intelligence, how do we decide which are the most valuable?

[Stew_Matthews]

Rate the members of F. Mac in the order of their I.Q., highest to lowest. Do your best, even if you have a low I.Q.

1. Rick Vito
2. Danny Kirwan
3. Bob Brunning
4. Lindsey Buckingham
5. Dave Mason
6. Bob Weston
7. Bob Welch
8. Christine McVie
9. Bekka Bramlett
10. John McVie
11. Dave Walker
12. Mick Fleetwood
13. Peter Green
14. Stevie Nicks

I didn't rate Jeremy because it would be rude since he reads the forum, but I will say that I think he is one of the higher I.Q.s in the band's history. Stevie Nicks is easily the dumbest. But she's the biggest star, so there ya go. :nod:

Linds and Stevie must get a lot of credit from making the most of their talent. Whatever their IQ, I guess both fulfilled their potential. I think both of them are pretty bright (Stevie aint no idiot) and made a fortune.

Not sure why an alcoholic like Danny Kirwan who wasted his talent rates number two on your IQ list. If being clever in your judgement is drinking/pissing your life away and relying on the state to support his addictions - I'm surprised.

[carrie721]

Linds and Stevie must get a lot of credit from making the most of their talent. Whatever their IQ, I guess both fulfilled their potential. I think both of them are pretty bright (Stevie aint no idiot) and made a fortune.

Not sure why an alcoholic like Danny Kirwan who wasted his talent rates number two on your IQ list. If being clever in your judgement is drinking/pissing your life away and relying on the state to support his addictions - I'm surprised.

well to be fair, IQ is about raw intellectual potential, not about the amount of money one makes or their poor choices. i know plenty of brilliant people who are wastes of space. i am occasionally one of them. :lol:

plus wasn't DK mentally ill?

[trackaghost]

^^ that's what I thought Carrie. Many great minds, people who could even be considered geniuses, have had tragic ends.

[Stew_Matthews]

well to be fair, IQ is about raw intellectual potential, not about the amount of money one makes or their poor choices. i know plenty of brilliant people who are wastes of space. i am occasionally one of them. :lol:

plus wasn't DK mentally ill?

I can't comment about whether you are a brilliant person or not.........:)

I don't think raw intellectual potential is best expressed by sitting in a gutter in Covent Garden. I think the majority of intelligent people understand that drink and drugs aint that helpful.

In the UK, alcoholics are classed as mentally ill - you are right there.

[trackaghost]

So you don't think alcoholism that severe is a mental illness?
And wasn't Stevie a drug addict and alcoholic for many years?
There are many great artists that have descended into alcoholism or addiction in the past. I don't see how it's a sign that they have lower IQs given their work.

[bretonbanquet]

What a stupid thread, based on a stupid premise.



Not sure why an alcoholic like Danny Kirwan who wasted his talent rates number two on your IQ list. If being clever in your judgement is drinking/pissing your life away and relying on the state to support his addictions - I'm surprised.

Rest assured you know nothing about what DK did or didn't do, or why. And FYI, his royalties cover his needs, not the state. What he certainly doesn't need is people who don't know the first thing about his situation, or apparently mental illness in general, casting their irrelevant judgement in public.

[carrie721]

I can't comment about whether you are a brilliant person or not.........:)

aren't you cute. :lol:

I don't think raw intellectual potential is best expressed by sitting in a gutter in Covent Garden. I think the majority of intelligent people understand that drink and drugs aint that helpful.

sure, lots of people do. lots of alcoholics and drug addicts know that drink and drugs ain't helpful too.

What a stupid thread, based on a stupid premise.

well slap my ass and call me sally. where the hell have you been??!

[bretonbanquet]

well slap my ass and call me sally. where the hell have you been??!

Oh :laugh: bad smells never really go away :)

[carrie721]

Oh :laugh: bad smells never really go away :)

ain't that the truth.

and i agree, the thread is stupid. it would be better if we were rating ledge members' intelligence.

[trackaghost]

Rest assured you know nothing about what DK did or didn't do, or why. And FYI, his royalties cover his needs, not the state. What he certainly doesn't need is people who don't know the first thing about his situation, or apparently mental illness in general, casting their irrelevant judgement in public.

Thank you James

[bretonbanquet]

ain't that the truth.

and i agree, the thread is stupid. it would be better if we were rating ledge members' intelligence.

Let's pick 16 other people we don't know and rate their intelligence.

I'd love to rate ledge members' intelligence. The bottom five would be a cinch.

Thank you James

:xoxo:

[David]

What he certainly doesn't need is people who don't know the first thing about his situation, or apparently mental illness in general, casting their irrelevant judgement in public.On the other hand, I'm glad you're stopping by to judge both my thread & my premise stupid. :wavey:

[carrie721]

Let's pick 16 other people we don't know and rate their intelligence.

I'd love to rate ledge members' intelligence. The bottom five would be a cinch.

don't talk about me like i'm not even here. :mad:

[bretonbanquet]

On the other hand, I'm glad you're stopping by to judge both my thread & my premise stupid. :wavey:

That's fine. The thing is, I know enough about this thread to realise it's stupid, whereas Stew Matthews doesn't know the first thing about Danny Kirwan's problems. Call it a fine line if you want.

[skcin]

That's fine. The thing is, I know enough about this thread to realise it's stupid, whereas Stew Matthews doesn't know the first thing about Danny Kirwan's problems. Call it a fine line if you want.



Yous guys are all dumb. You can't spell realize the smart way & sally can't seem to use capital letters anymore. :distress:

[Black_Moon]

Yous guys are all dumb. You can't spell realize the smart way & sally can't seem to use capital letters anymore. :distress:

"Realise" is spelt like that in British form. I don't know whether or not you're just being facetious, and to be honest it's too late at night for me to care. :p

[carrie721]

"Realise" is spelt like that in British form. I don't know whether or not you're just being facetious, and to be honest it's too late at night for me to care. :p

LOL.

paula, clearly you don't post enough anymore if people are taking your **** seriously. :laugh:

oh, and quit being a bloody wanker. i'd stick around for your response but i'm about to go have a pint with me mates. yes i realiSe it's not even time for high tea yet but what can i say, i'm a drunk just like danny kirwan.

[jbrownsjr]

LOL.

paula, clearly you don't post enough anymore if people are taking your **** seriously. :laugh:

oh, and quit being a bloody wanker. i'd stick around for your response but i'm about to go have a pint with me mates. yes i realiSe it's not even time for high tea yet but what can i say, i'm a drunk just like danny kirwan.

You know I live close.. why am I not invited... I too am a drunk... just like _____ McVie...

[Black_Moon]

I said it was late! :p

I don't know what to take seriously and what not to on this board anymore.

[carrie721]

You know I live close.. why am I not invited... I too am a drunk... just like _____ McVie...

of course you're invited!

and how dare you sir. how dare you imply that any member of fleetwood mac had a substance abuse problem.

[bretonbanquet]

Yous guys are all dumb. You can't spell realize the smart way & sally can't seem to use capital letters anymore. :distress:

:mad:

LOL.

paula, clearly you don't post enough anymore if people are taking your **** seriously. :laugh:

oh, and quit being a bloody wanker. i'd stick around for your response but i'm about to go have a pint with me mates. yes i realiSe it's not even time for high tea yet but what can i say, i'm a drunk just like danny kirwan.

High tea, guv'nor? Gor blimey, that's a bit poncy, ain't it? You havin' a larf? You just want a bit of banter with your mates down the pub and a bit of how's-yer-father with the barmaid - none of your high tea malarkey. High tea's a load of ol' pony :mad:

[carrie721]

High tea, guv'nor? Gor blimey, that's a bit poncy, ain't it? You havin' a larf? You just want a bit of banter with your mates down the pub and a bit of how's-yer-father with the barmaid - none of your high tea malarkey. High tea's a load of ol' pony :mad:

i'll take a bit of that how's-yer-father with the barmaid if you don't mind.

:woohoo:

[bretonbanquet]

i'll take a bit of that how's-yer-father with the barmaid if you don't mind.

:woohoo:

Queue up and wait your turn :laugh:

[carrie721]

Queue up and wait your turn :laugh:

i don't have to pay, do i? i'm usually the one charging.

:cool:

[bretonbanquet]

i don't have to pay, do i? i'm usually the one charging.

:cool:

Nah, if it's not free it's not worth it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it :laugh: