transformers revenge of the fallen

[GODDESS6]

just came from taking our son to see this~ i have to say i really enjoyed it alot, much better than the first~

anyone else see it, or planning to?~

[Chrislit18]

just came from taking our son to see this~ i have to say i really enjoyed it alot, much better than the first~

anyone else see it, or planning to?~

I saw this last night. I wasn't planning on liking it, but I actually thought it was pretty good. Nothing I'd rush out to see again, but pretty good.
The effects were like 'ohheyWOW'

[David]

Would I enjoy this film?

[TrueFaith77]

these are private, incomplete notes I sent to a friend. don't judge them too harshly. but some thoughts i had about the movie. i forgot to mention the bountiful wit and beauty in the film.

Well it seems to me that the themes were pretty apparent -- but it is precisely the apparentness that seems to frustrate critics (who prefer to just make up things that make them sound "smart").

1. the sexual innuendo/puns/imagery. Well this movie is about the lead character's maturation, and it's dramatized in sexual terms. he learns the importance of fidelity. yet, his relationship to sex is immature at the beginning. ergo: the prof's speech, the phallic tongue, the bumble bee splooge on the girl's face, the nerds' desperation, etc etc.

2. boys and their toys. simple. sexuality is part of us. the military comes from us. therefore, the military/technology is a manifestation of our nature. it's hardly revolutionary to suggest that there's a growth from the toys we play with to the military. . . the challenge, as with the sexual challenge above, is to be moral (gotta love the movie's digs at Obama! oh, Bay, that's no way to win over the critics! lol but i found it cathartic!)

3. the spiritual dimension. . . what is the point of fantasy films if it's not to show us how miraculous is existence, but though the representation is pulp the myths are timeless: the descent into the water, the ascent of the resurrected optimus, THE AIRPLANES OVER MEGAN FOX'S HEAD AS SHE PRAYS FOR SHIA'S LIFE. . . yes, the movie has already established the transformers as Angels (or Fallen Angels). . . it's a very Spielberg (he produced) trope as well. think of the airplanes that appear at the moment of Tom Hanks' death in Saving Private Ryan. it signaled, for me, three things: the release of his spirit, grace, AND the arrival of salvation: finally, help is here!!!

all these things are what makes Optimus' speech at the end so rousing: Military and Myth. This is not a jingoistic film or a PRO-military film; it's not propoganda!!! it is saying: the military is part of human civiliation, let's understand where it comes from and that we must not divorce the military or technology from morality. morality is communicated to us via myth.

[mylittledemon]

Wow. My wife and I wanted to get up and leave the theater when we saw it. Terrible film.

Then again, I didn't much care for the 1st one. I should've known that going in...it IS a Michael Bay picture, after all.

[GODDESS6]

Wow. My wife and I wanted to get up and leave the theater when we saw it. Terrible film.

Then again, I didn't much care for the 1st one. I should've known that going in...it IS a Michael Bay picture, after all.

as an adult would i see the film?, probably not~ transformers weren't on when i was little, so i don't get the excitement~

but for a 10 yr old boy, my son, he thought it was the best~ & i enjoyed watching it w/ him~ i thought the 1st one sucked, but i loved the story this one had & i loved sam's mom~

[EnchantedKiwi]

I didn't like the first one either, so i guess no point on seeing this one. Im keen to see Harry Potter \m/ :lol:

[SortaSavageLike]

Michael Bay couldn't direct his way out of a paper bag.

Gotta give him credit though - he'll spend $6 million on a huge action setpiece that's five seconds long, contains 17 cuts, and is filmed entirely in shakycam with an orange filter.

[Chrislit18]

as an adult would i see the film?, probably not~ transformers weren't on when i was little, so i don't get the excitement~

but for a 10 yr old boy, my son, he thought it was the best~ & i enjoyed watching it w/ him~ i thought the 1st one sucked, but i loved the story this one had & i loved sam's mom~

Well, when I went it was a majority of Teenaged boys in the movie theatre [I think my friend Chelsea and I were the only teenaged girls, but we were there with guys....] I'm sure most of that is they grew up with the toys....which my friend Chels and I were looking at yesterday at walmart, after we came to the conclusion of how much we loved the film....


See, I think that the humans actually what made the movie unlikable for people. If it was only the robots in the film, it would be so much better. the Human plot sucks, but the robot plot is actually interesting...

The most interesting things the humans did was have the mom eat the special brownie, and have the 'relationship' with the little decepticon. Thats ABOUT it....

[GODDESS6]

Well, when I went it was a majority of Teenaged boys in the movie theatre [I think my friend Chelsea and I were the only teenaged girls, but we were there with guys....] I'm sure most of that is they grew up with the toys....which my friend Chels and I were looking at yesterday at walmart, after we came to the conclusion of how much we loved the film....
See, I think that the humans actually what made the movie unlikable for people. If it was only the robots in the film, it would be so much better. the Human plot sucks, but the robot plot is actually interesting...

The most interesting things the humans did was have the mom eat the special brownie, and have the 'relationship' with the little decepticon. Thats ABOUT it....
my son loves the toys too~ his birthday is next week & most of his list consisted of the toys & the new game that is out~ we were lucky that the toys were out at toysrus a few weeks before the movie hit & were able to get what he was looking for~ when we went bacl later, they were so picked thru~

[Chrislit18]

And on the note of this thread-

I saw it a second time today. in IMAX. I was actually dissapointed with the IMAX...I was dissapointed with the whole day in general, but specifically with the IMAX...