Several Nicks' CD's, dropped from active status (OOP) [Archive]

iamnotafraid

03-17-2009, 07:50 PM

LukeA

03-17-2009, 07:57 PM

I'm a pessimist, but I think this means remasters. The fact that "Bella Donna" isn't on that list makes me wonder, though.

CADreaming

03-17-2009, 08:03 PM

Recently several of Stevie's solo CD's were removed from active status,
making them OOP (out of print). I'm sure many are still in stock right
now at retailers, but if you don't have any of these particular titles....

WILD HEART
ROCK A LITTLE
OTHER SIDE OF THE MIRROR
STREET ANGEL

Even TISL has had it's suggested price lowered to $7.98

If I were an optimist I'd think maybe we have some Remasters coming.
On the other hand, if I were a pessimist I'd think there's no market for
those older titles. After all CD is dead or dying (dang you downloaders!).

Why do cd's go out of print? Is it based on sales? Or is it based on the artist's status with the label? Wouldn't the label continue to print the back catalogue - especially of a popular artist?

David

03-17-2009, 08:05 PM

I hope they put together nice packages for the remasters. Stevie is known for a nice package.

I love lots of nice photographs from the young adulthood years, with midnight-suede platform boots, silk opera hat, & velour GYOW jacket.

Demos & such I don't care so much about. But I love reminiscences (sp?) from wonderful old critics like Steve Pond, Ken Tucker, & David Gans.

iamnotafraid

03-17-2009, 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=CADreaming;806944]Why do cd's go out of print? Is it based on sales? /QUOTE]

Based on the list I provided you would think it would be due to lack of sales.
But if they are being deleted because of the upcoming remasters you'd think
(like Luke suggested) that Bella Donna would be on that list of OOP. Surely it
would be the first to be remastered. Followed by my favorite, WILD HEART.

I wonder if anyone would be interested in me posting the 2 CD set(s) track list
w/bonus artwork (for Bella, Wild, Rock and Mirror)?

MacMan

03-17-2009, 09:33 PM

whitewingdove73

03-17-2009, 09:35 PM

All of Stevie's albums are being sold just fine at amazon.com...it says nothing about out of print.

michelej1

03-17-2009, 09:45 PM

I hope they put together nice packages for the remasters. Stevie is known for a nice package.

It's like there's an entire Dean Martin show going on just beneath the surface.

Sliding down the pole, Everybody loves somebody some time . . .

Michele

iamnotafraid

03-17-2009, 11:10 PM

[QUOTE=iamnotafraid;806967][/B]

Is this something you put together yourself? What are you gettin at here?

MacMan, you know me, would I kid about something like this???

Whitewingdove73, I did mention in my original post about the CD's
being still in stock at many retailers (online anyway).

David, "Stevie is known for a nice package"......that joke writes itself,
doesn't it?

fpstarfish

03-18-2009, 03:10 AM

So not sure if this means that the downloads will also be deleted. I know that alot of major record stores (look at me calling them record stores) hardly even sell CDs anymore. You walk in, look around the store for the CD you are after, but instead of taking a CD, you take a laminated card to the sales desk, and they will either burn the disc for you there, or download the tunes onto your MP3 player. Me thinky the CD has had its day in the techno sun.
That said, I would love a remaster! I have so many double copies of CDs becasue when I bought them they were just the normal version, and then they remastered a few years later.

cactusjack

03-19-2009, 04:01 AM

only a few Stevie albums are available on iTunes Australia, basically only Bella Donna, Enchanted and Crystal Visions.:shocked:

goodun

03-19-2009, 05:41 AM

They're all on iTunes US. They're on CD overseas on Reprise (Modern was folded). I keep finding the EU EMI reissues of The Wild Heart at fye (tip for collectors!). I guess EMI had a tonne of copies left to sell after their non-US contract with Modern expired.

Recently several of Stevie's solo CD's were removed from active status,
making them OOP (out of print). I'm sure many are still in stock right
now at retailers, but if you don't have any of these particular titles....

WILD HEART
ROCK A LITTLE
OTHER SIDE OF THE MIRROR
STREET ANGEL

Even TISL has had it's suggested price lowered to $7.98

If I were an optimist I'd think maybe we have some Remasters coming.
On the other hand, if I were a pessimist I'd think there's no market for
those older titles. After all CD is dead or dying (dang you downloaders!).

kak125

03-19-2009, 10:25 AM

you know what is strange is that i was at the best buy near my house yesterday and they didnt have any fleetwood mac cd's at all. they didnt even have a card for them. i was shocked! i was looking for the lindsey buckingham gift of screws and somehow found that but it didnt have a card either. i just got lucky to have found that.

Fannymac

03-19-2009, 05:45 PM

Why do cd's go out of print? Is it based on sales? Or is it based on the artist's status with the label? Wouldn't the label continue to print the back catalogue - especially of a popular artist?

That's exactly what it's based on....the labels used to do quarterly reviews....if a particular title showed continued lack of sales over a period of time, it was cut out. It might be even more frequent now.
That said, I really hope this signifies a batch of remasters....the fact that BELLA DONNA isn't on the list might be due to it's continued strong sales....they may be keeping the original version around until the last minute.
Plus, while not as huge as BELLA DONNA, I would think the sales on THE WILD HEART still have to be pretty strong. The other three? Not so much (in fact, I'm actually surprised THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MIRROR and, especially, STREET ANGEL, weren't cut out long ago!).

carrie721

03-19-2009, 08:05 PM

why has no one asked for a citation yet?

this is, after all, the person who started these threads:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=36843

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=38265

:shrug:

diane_k

03-19-2009, 08:24 PM

I'm going to have to agree with the ledgie that asked if this was a joke.

Damn it, I joined to comment on the band and I'm getting sidetracked by so much unnecessary inane chatter. :distress:

~DK

CADreaming

03-19-2009, 08:46 PM

That's exactly what it's based on....the labels used to do quarterly reviews....if a particular title showed continued lack of sales over a period of time, it was cut out. It might be even more frequent now.
That said, I really hope this signifies a batch of remasters....the fact that BELLA DONNA isn't on the list might be due to it's continued strong sales....they may be keeping the original version around until the last minute.
Plus, while not as huge as BELLA DONNA, I would think the sales on THE WILD HEART still have to be pretty strong. The other three? Not so much (in fact, I'm actually surprised THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MIRROR and, especially, STREET ANGEL, weren't cut out long ago!).

Thanks for the info!

iamnotafraid

03-19-2009, 08:46 PM

why has no one asked for a citation yet?

Some things I write are true.

carrie721

03-19-2009, 08:52 PM

Some things I write are true.

ok. where is your source?

iamnotafraid

03-19-2009, 09:39 PM

ok. where is your source?

Where? Same place they've always been.

And if you're wondering "they" are not the
same sources for the threads you mentioned.
Those particular threads were....well....um...,
let's just say based on grey matter sources.

carrie721

03-19-2009, 09:51 PM

Where? Same place they've always been.

And if you're wondering "they" are not the
same sources for the threads you mentioned.
Those particular threads were....well....um...,
let's just say based on grey matter sources.

i'll just glean from your word-mincing that you don't have a credible source. :wavey:

iamnotafraid

03-19-2009, 10:01 PM

i'll just glean from your word-mincing that you don't have a credible source. :wavey:

Instead of making you read through all my post (might cause brain damage),
you could look at the date I first posted the track listing and other info about
the upcoming release of "The Soundstage Sessions" and "Live In Chicago". As
you will read, many doubted that thread at first.

carrie721

03-20-2009, 12:44 AM

Instead of making you read through all my post (might cause brain damage),
you could look at the date I first posted the track listing and other info about
the upcoming release of "The Soundstage Sessions" and "Live In Chicago". As
you will read, many doubted that thread at first.

i didn't say your claim is false. but unless and until you cite a credible source, there's no point in speculating about remasters.

billwebster

03-20-2009, 01:34 AM

I guess these titles going out of print is a consequence of so many CD chain stores closing at the time. If there are less outlets to buy CDs, less stock is needed.
It seems that the record labels have realized that their business is suffering from deflation when you can get all of these titles for circa $1 used if you are lucky enough online. So they just downsize supply to allow the prices to recover, which is good for their business, but rather less for the public presence of an artist.
Even the Rolling Stones have titles running out at the time ...

Somehow, I fear that the labels are willing to go entirely digital, to save the cost of manufacturing and physical distribution. Mp3s are crappy sounding, so I oppose that.

iamnotafraid

03-20-2009, 02:37 AM

I wonder if anyone would be interested in me posting the 2 CD set(s) track list
w/bonus artwork (for Bella, Wild, Rock and Mirror)?

Carrie if you're talking about the remasters quoted here, then
I'd say................................:rolleyes:

But to the original point of this thread about Stevie's CD's being dropped
from active status, that part is fact.

I think MacMan knew what I meant.

btw, insomnia......what a cool thing.

carrie721

03-20-2009, 02:41 AM

Carrie if you're talking about the remasters quoted here, then
I'd say................................:rolleyes:

But to the original point of this thread about Stevie's CD's being dropped
from active status, that part is fact.

I think MacMan knew what I meant.

btw, insomnia......what a cool thing.

talking about remasters was the general direction of the thread. that is what i was referring to. not your quote.

iamnotafraid

03-20-2009, 02:54 AM

Well to get this thread back on track, the titles I listed are dropped from
active status. And yes, you can find most if not all those CD's for sale online.
How long, well that's anyone's guess.

Remasters? Remember it's not a lie if you believe it's true.

iamnotafraid

03-20-2009, 02:57 AM

Mp3s are crappy sounding.

You're right about that.

skuncles

03-20-2009, 08:22 AM

Those titles being dropped should surprise no one. There are a handfull of record stores (or at least places where you can buy CD's still) and basically they usually only have the biggest selling catalog albums by an artist. I haven't seen the title listed in stores in a while. In fact "Street Angel" was already on the indangered list a long time ago, but was rescued by the release of "The Dance". Back around 1995/6 you could find "Street Angel" in the cut-out bin for 99 cents. Then once "The Dance" became a hit, it was pulled and put back into the $12.99 price range.
Itunes and other download sites (Rhapsody) have lots of titles that haven't been in print on CD for years. In some cases I've found titles that have never been on CD, they have only been released for download.

RockALittle250

03-20-2009, 08:34 AM

Recently several of Stevie's solo CD's were removed from active status,
making them OOP (out of print). I'm sure many are still in stock right
now at retailers, but if you don't have any of these particular titles....

WILD HEART
ROCK A LITTLE
OTHER SIDE OF THE MIRROR
STREET ANGEL

Even TISL has had it's suggested price lowered to $7.98

If I were an optimist I'd think maybe we have some Remasters coming.
On the other hand, if I were a pessimist I'd think there's no market for
those older titles. After all CD is dead or dying (dang you downloaders!).

This doesn't surprise me...i have NEVER seen any of these 4 titles in the CD section of any store...the 3 titles that are usually under Stevie Nicks in any of these stores that sell CD's are always Bella Donna, Timespace, and Crystal Visions, and i've seen TISL twice, and Enchanted once.

skuncles

03-20-2009, 12:15 PM

When was the last time you saw "Live", "Mirage", "Tango In The Night", "Behind The Mask" or "Time" is stores either???

whitewingdove73

03-20-2009, 09:54 PM

^ Never. I only buy CD's online anyway. Mp3 at Amazon's MP3 stores. They are closing Virgin Mega in NY. I am sad. It really is an end of an era...

I really loved going to music stores. :cool:

Gypsycat999

03-21-2009, 01:55 PM

When was the last time you saw "Live", "Mirage", "Tango In The Night", "Behind The Mask" or "Time" is stores either???

Well, everytime I went to CD stores there were Rumours, Very best of and Tango in the Night under Fleetwood Mac. But I may not be the right person to ask because I get my music usually online or from the record collections of nice people. It's sad that CD's time is over but who knows how long the mp3's time will last. Everything's changing constantly.

nailatixela

03-21-2009, 04:25 PM

When was the last time you saw "Live", "Mirage", "Tango In The Night", "Behind The Mask" or "Time" is stores either???

The Barnes and Noble book store near me always has a good selection...for Stevie they have pretty much one of all her solo stuff unless it is just out of stock. I got a lot of my pre-buckingham nicks Fleetwood Mac CDs at barnes and noble too - they have all sorts of stuff there.

iamnotafraid

07-24-2009, 12:02 AM

Stevie's analog days are almost over. Warner finally put to death the
"Bella Donna" Cassette ( yes, it's just went off the active list).

All that's left from Stevie in the analog format is the "Crystal Visions"
2 LP set.

Eight active Stevie titles left (if you include DVD).
Goodbye Stevie........dang you downloaders!

LiamMcConville

07-24-2009, 01:12 AM

wewerefrail

07-24-2009, 01:17 AM

This is all my fault! I've spent too much time working on my FM/Stevie/Lindsey vinyl collection, and not enough on the CDs. Damn that retro charm.

vivfox

07-24-2009, 01:47 AM

Don't worry kitties, it just increases the value of the ones you've got.

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iamnotafraid

07-24-2009, 01:57 AM

YOU - are a douche.

Thank you so much.

daniellaaarisen

07-24-2009, 04:47 PM

This thread depresses me. I hate the modern music industry.

iamnotafraid

04-13-2012, 01:31 AM

Looks like I should add to the list...

The Soundstage Sessions
&
Stand Back (CD Single)

loubird98

04-13-2012, 08:15 AM

It's sad. I remember as a teenager, how exciting visitng the local record shop was. Those days are way gone!

Macfanforever

04-13-2012, 08:46 AM

You can blame the freeloaders for downloading free copies for this.I can't blame her for harping about the internet pirates.It's not going to stop.

KarmaContestant

04-13-2012, 10:25 AM

You can blame the freeloaders for downloading free copies for this.I can't blame her for harping about the internet pirates.It's not going to stop.

This simply is not true. Digital music is the future - CDs replaced records. Digital copies have replaced CDs. People just aren't buying CDs in numbers sufficient to justify their production.

CDs are made from oil (a non-renewable product) and they require fuel to transport.

Yes - lots of people steal downloads, but that has nothing to do with CDs being discontinued. People made copies of cassettes & CDs for their friends for fourty years - probably far more albums were stolen this way than will ever be downloaded illegally. The discontinuation of CDs and analog music formats is the natural progression of technology.

All of these discontinued items can be legitimately purchased in digital format on Amazon, iTunes and other digital music retailers.

Macfanforever

04-13-2012, 10:54 AM

This simply is not true. Digital music is the future - CDs replaced records. Digital copies have replaced CDs. People just aren't buying CDs in numbers sufficient to justify their production.

CDs are made from oil (a non-renewable product) and they require fuel to transport.

Yes - lots of people steal downloads, but that has nothing to do with CDs being discontinued. People made copies of cassettes & CDs for their friends for fourty years - probably far more albums were stolen this way than will ever be downloaded illegally. The discontinuation of CDs and analog music formats is the natural progression of technology.

All of these discontinued items can be legitimately purchased in digital format on Amazon, iTunes and other digital music retailers.

I agree.As we know .She don't understand the computer world.It's greek to her.Personally I rather own a CD then a downloadable from Itunes.When the computers hard drive crashes .Mind as will say goodbye to the tunes.Most people don't bother backing their computers up.In the meantime they should be cheaper then the hardcopy.This will end me for purchasing new music.

Richard B

04-13-2012, 11:05 AM

Most people don't bother backing their computers up.

That's just silly! People who do not do backups of their data are complete idiots. Makes no sense to me. Not to mention all the new online services to store data even if you do not back up your hard drive. It's all so easy.
In addition, if your home (God forbid) is destroyed by fire or theft or any of those types of things, always good to have a backup offsite as well.

poetinmyheart

04-13-2012, 11:20 AM

It is sad. You would never have guessed that cds are on the out judging by the number of people I saw milling around HMV today; browsing through all the albums, cds in hand.

I have an ipod and download music for train journeys etc, but I still buy albums too for the car. I much prefer having something tangible like an actual cd. I don't know why? :shrug:

APerfectLie

04-13-2012, 12:58 PM

I have to say, for a few years I was on the OMG I MUST HAVE A PHYSICAL COPY spree and I never bought full albums off of iTunes. I hated the idea of physical copies potentially disappearing in the future. However, now I buy most of my albums off of iTunes. If it is one of my top favorite bands, such as Stevie, I definitely shell out the cash for a physical copy, but only for the artists I really really love. I think this is becoming the norm for the industry. I don't think the days of physical CD's are coming to a close altogether, but I do believe they will eventually become niche items with limited releases only for the fans that actually buy them. And frankly, I'm okay with that.

Macfanforever

04-13-2012, 03:10 PM

Who knows.I hope vinyl comes back.I was upset when CD's killed off vinyl records.If the digital downloads is the thing.They better have a price drop.It's not costing them nothing to produce and shipping the hardcopy to the dealers.If they don't .I won't buy new music anymore.Sorry Stevie.

markolas

04-13-2012, 03:51 PM

I agree.As we know .She don't understand the computer world.

She doesn't understand it.

It's greek to her.Personally I rather own a CD then a downloadable from Itunes.When the computers hard drive crashes .Mind as will say goodbye to the tunes.Most people don't bother backing their computers up.In the meantime they should be cheaper then the hardcopy.This will end me for purchasing new music.

People who don't bother backing up their data deserve what they get, quite frankly. And digital downloads *are* cheaper than physical media, so I don't know what you're talking about. I remember paying $20 for a CD 10-15 years ago. A digital album can be had for less than half that price.

It's not costing them nothing to produce and shipping the hardcopy to the dealers.

It's not costing them anything. Ugh.

ragrsrocalot

04-13-2012, 04:06 PM

She doesn't understand it.

People who don't bother backing up their data deserve what they get, quite frankly. And digital downloads *are* cheaper than physical media, so I don't know what you're talking about. I remember paying $20 for a CD 10-15 years ago. A digital album can be had for less than half that price.

It's not costing them anything. Ugh.

Does this make you feel good?

egg cream

04-13-2012, 04:27 PM

Does this make you feel good?

Christ, people are grumpy on this thread. They're not taking the old girl down to the glue factory, they're discontinuing a couple of CDs so old they could drive themselves to the record store to buy a CD. There are so many copies of TOSOTM on CD in the world, you can buy one used for 77 cents on Amazon if you really want one -- that's why they're discontinuing it.

markolas

04-13-2012, 04:39 PM

Does this make you feel good?

A little. :laugh:

ragrsrocalot

04-13-2012, 04:44 PM

Christ, people are grumpy on this thread. They're not taking the old girl down to the glue factory, they're discontinuing a couple of CDs so old they could drive themselves to the record store to buy a CD. There are so many copies of TOSOTM on CD in the world, you can buy one used for 77 cents on Amazon if you really want one -- that's why they're discontinuing it.

Nice tangent, to bad it missed the mark. My question to the poster was in reference to him feeling the need to correct someone's grammar. I was wondering if that made him feel good about himself ?

markolas

04-13-2012, 04:46 PM

Nice tangent, to bad it missed the mark. My question to the poster was in reference to him feeling the need to correct someone's grammar. I was wondering if that made him feel good about himself ?

I couldn't help it. It just sounds so ignorant.

Macfanforever

04-13-2012, 05:02 PM

Bryan

04-13-2012, 05:14 PM

Macfanforever

04-13-2012, 05:15 PM

Hehehe. I forgot to add about those online storage sites.Forget it with them. Remember Megaupload. They are here today.Maybe gone tomorrow with you backup files..

Just go to Walmart and get a 3TB WD portable drive for about $150.I got three of those portable drives.

BTW .I wonder how many Rumours CD's are out there.The market is probably flooded with them.

markolas

04-13-2012, 05:17 PM

I hope people realise that a digital download is inferior quality UNLESS it's lossless format such as FLAC or wav.
If you rip a CD even in 320kbps you're compressing the music. To me this makes the CD valuable still. Until ALL digital music is offered in lossless quality I will continue to buy CD.

I don't believe people can really hear the difference. "Audiophiles" have simply convinced themselves they can.

Macfanforever

04-13-2012, 05:19 PM

I hope people realise that a digital download is inferior quality UNLESS it's lossless format such as FLAC or wav.
If you rip a CD even in 320kbps you're compressing the music. To me this makes the CD valuable still. Until ALL digital music is offered in lossless quality I will continue to buy CD.

I agree 100 percent.I refuse to pay for MP3's.The normal person probably would not notice the artifacts swishing around in the sound of their favorite artists song.

I rip at 320kbps all the time.

Bryan

04-13-2012, 05:20 PM

I thought the same until I started playing FLAC and was blown away.I never looked back

Macfanforever

04-13-2012, 05:24 PM

I thought the same until I started playing FLAC and was blown away.I never looked back

I agree .Hard drive are cheap today.Wave or Flac is the best for quility.Soon the mp3's will gone.

Bryan

04-13-2012, 05:27 PM

I agree .Hard drive are cheap today.Wave or Flac is the best for quility.Soon the mp3's will gone.

Yep and I have seen some online stores already making the change which is good.
I hate to think that people are paying for itunes inferior mp3 and getting basically ripped off

Macfanforever

04-13-2012, 08:05 PM

Yep and I have seen some online stores already making the change which is good.
I hate to think that people are paying for itunes inferior mp3 and getting basically ripped off

Thats good. Now I have a better feeling about it now.

Jondalar

04-13-2012, 09:22 PM

this thread is old, haven'these albums been picked up

Nathan

04-13-2012, 10:44 PM

I thought the same until I started playing FLAC and was blown away.I never looked back

He neeeveeeer looooked baaaack.

Richard B

04-14-2012, 03:16 PM

I hate to think that people are paying for itunes inferior mp3 and getting basically ripped off
Funny, the iTunesStore hasn't been producing Mp3's for awhile now. It's AAC, which technically is not a mp3 file.

Rod~A~Little

04-14-2012, 10:23 PM

This thread depresses me. I hate the modern music industry.

Yes, it depresses me too as an artist!... I feel like I have no hope!

Damn downloaders! Don't you like to have something in your hands????

:(

iamnotafraid

04-15-2012, 09:39 PM

I don't believe people can really hear the difference. "Audiophiles" have simply convinced themselves they can.

Au contraire mon frere

Oops I forgot you can't read what I write.
Too bad for you. You could learn much
young one.

On the topic of the internet/downloads killing off hard copies.
There's a lot of truth to that. Yes recording copies has been an
option forever. But never had it been possible to cherry-pick
albums so easily. And I'm talking legally.

Some of the best cuts from an album are not always the hits.
There's a whole generation that's missing out on the listening
experience. All for convenience.

For those under the age of forty, when's the last time you sat
and listened to an entire album with nothing distracting you?
Just you sitting in that perfect position, speakers placed just
right. You would almost swear that voice you're listening to
is coming from dead center. And no, there's no center channel
speaker. I'm talking stereo 2.0. There's magic in that music
you listen to, if you give it a chance.

Bryan

04-16-2012, 11:49 AM

Funny, the iTunesStore hasn't been producing Mp3's for awhile now. It's AAC, which technically is not a mp3 file.

Oh GOOD. I don't use iTunes so I wouldn't know :p Anything Apple related i'm allergic to.

Macfanforever

04-16-2012, 12:06 PM

The ole cassette recorder off the radio will do for me.They can keep their crappy Icrap mp3's. I better stock up on blank cassettes before they stop making blanks altogether.

Bryan

04-16-2012, 12:11 PM

I still buy vinyl too.Got Georgia Ruth William's latest EP on 10'' recently.Supporting the indie is much more appealing than major label & Apple related corporate junk.

Macfanforever

04-16-2012, 12:32 PM

I still buy vinyl too.Got Georgia Ruth William's latest EP on 10'' recently.Supporting the indie is much more appealing than major label & Apple related corporate junk.

I agree about the supporting the indie labels.I hope Stevie/FM will get a divorce from WB/Reprise soon.I love vinyl I hope more artists will revert to vinyl. About Apple .I will be in the market to buy a Imac.I'm sick with Window OS.I got to put that on hold due to money to finance Stevie's upcoming tour travels.

vivfox

04-16-2012, 12:51 PM

I agree about the supporting the indie labels.I hope Stevie/FM will get a divorce from WB/Reprise soon..

I bet an Indie label would give Stevie a whole lot more attention than Warner/ Reprise.

Macfanforever

04-16-2012, 01:01 PM

I bet an Indie label would give Stevie a whole lot more attention than Warner/ Reprise.

I agree 100 percent.

iamnotafraid

04-16-2012, 10:47 PM

I agree about the supporting the indie labels.I hope Stevie/FM will get a divorce from WB/Reprise soon.I love vinyl...

An interesting answer for Stevie would be...

THIRD MAN RECORDS

KarmaContestant

04-17-2012, 11:14 AM

Au contraire mon frere

For those under the age of forty, when's the last time you sat
and listened to an entire album with nothing distracting you?
Just you sitting in that perfect position, speakers placed just
right. You would almost swear that voice you're listening to
is coming from dead center. And no, there's no center channel
speaker. I'm talking stereo 2.0. There's magic in that music
you listen to, if you give it a chance.

I am 38 - so under the age of forty. As a teen, I used to spend hours laying on the floor with a speaker on either side of my head, listening to Rock A Little, Tango in The Night...or Madonna. :laugh:

I grew up in a household with a nice stereo, and it played all the time. As such, I've grown into an adult that believes a nice stereo is far more important than having a TV.

I prefer the sound of vinyl over CD any day of the week, and you are absolutely right about sound quality of MP3s. When I put a CD or record in my stereo, and play it through my 4-foot tall floor speakers, the sound is incredible, real, lush, vibrant and most of all FULL. On the contrary, if I hook up the iPod to the stereo and play the songs I've purchased in digital format, the sound is tinny and metallic, missing depth and space, the low ends of the songs are muffled and the high ends are clipped off. If the volume is increased, the quality degrades even further because these flaws are amplified. You can't typically hear these differences in the car, but on a high-end stereo with good speakers it's not only obvious, it's actually disappointing.

My stereo is my number one high. :woohoo:

Macfanforever

04-17-2012, 11:37 AM

Hahaha.This thread is making feel old.Maybe it's time to cart out the reel to reel recorder.

Good statement Karma. Mp3 is about the same is FM radio or less.Listening to a mp3 is more noticeable on a hi quality stereo then a cheap boom box or walkman.You can really hear the artifacts of the swish swashing sound on a good sound system .Heres some info from Wikipedia about MP3's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3

Nathan

04-17-2012, 07:24 PM

I am 38 - so under the age of forty. As a teen, I used to spend hours laying on the floor with a speaker on either side of my head, listening to Rock A Little, Tango in The Night...or Madonna. :laugh:

I grew up in a household with a nice stereo, and it played all the time. As such, I've grown into an adult that believes a nice stereo is far more important than having a TV.

I prefer the sound of vinyl over CD any day of the week, and you are absolutely right about sound quality of MP3s. When I put a CD or record in my stereo, and play it through my 4-foot tall floor speakers, the sound is incredible, real, lush, vibrant and most of all FULL. On the contrary, if I hook up the iPod to the stereo and play the songs I've purchased in digital format, the sound is tinny and metallic, missing depth and space, the low ends of the songs are muffled and the high ends are clipped off. If the volume is increased, the quality degrades even further because these flaws are amplified. You can't typically hear these differences in the car, but on a high-end stereo with good speakers it's not only obvious, it's actually disappointing.

My stereo is my number one high. :woohoo:

Strange, I always think my digital stuff sounds so good.

'those of under 38...'
The OP of that can suck it.

We share the same philosophies on stereos. I have an old vintage receiver and a speaker set, and haven't had cable for years.
And I'm 23.

Macfanforever

04-17-2012, 08:45 PM

60's 70's and some of the 80's Hi Fi is the best.Love the tube gear.

iamnotafraid

04-18-2012, 01:03 AM

I am 38 - so under the age of forty.

I grew up in a household with a nice stereo, and it played all the time. As such, I've grown into an adult that believes a nice stereo is far more important than having a TV.

My stereo is my number one high. :woohoo:

You give me hope.

Macfanforever

04-18-2012, 10:21 AM

Atlease TV is getting brighter lately with Stevie's appearances lately.I hope it will move more IYD cd's for her.

tabruns

04-18-2012, 10:35 AM

Yes - lots of people steal downloads, but that has nothing to do with CDs being discontinued. People made copies of cassettes & CDs for their friends for fourty years

Yes but its a huge difference in scale. Making cds for my friends meant maybe a dozen people didn't buy the album. Putting an mp3 out on some website means thousands of people that I don't even know don't buy the album. Multiply that out and its easy to see why Internet piracy has crashed album sales.

I'm not in favor of the over-the-top prosecutions of the RIAA or with record company greed. Artists though need to be able to make a living on their music, otherwise they can't really do it.

Dodfather

04-18-2012, 10:36 AM

Well I'm just going to turn this thread on its head and say that I'm 29, love cds and still buy them. You can get great deals now! I also love vinyl and yes, it so often sounds markedly better. Nothing I like more than raking around old record stores!

Macfanforever

04-18-2012, 11:30 AM

Yes but its a huge difference in scale. Making cds for my friends meant maybe a dozen people didn't buy the album. Putting an mp3 out on some website means thousands of people that I don't even know don't buy the album. Multiply that out and its easy to see why Internet piracy has crashed album sales.

I'm not in favor of the over-the-top prosecutions of the RIAA or with record company greed. Artists though need to be able to make a living on their music, otherwise they can't really do it.

Copying records for friends been going on probably since I can remember.Way before the internet .I have to admit I've done it too.I can see Stevie has been shaky about the internet piracy.I can't blame her.
I agree about these greedy record labels and other related organizations should stop their greed factor and spead their wealth out to the poor workers and artists that produce these recordings.

vivfox

04-18-2012, 08:08 PM

Nothing I like more than raking around old record stores!

Al, that's nice of you to be concerned with lawn maintenance. I prefer a wooden rake over a metal one because of the scraping sound it makes when it hits the pavement.

iamnotafraid

04-18-2012, 10:30 PM

Well I'm just going to turn this thread on its head and say that I'm 29, love cds and still buy them.

29??? What tha heck?
By your taste in music I
thought you'd be older.

louielouie2000

04-18-2012, 10:50 PM

Macfanforever

04-18-2012, 11:10 PM

I like Cd's .Like I said before.I rather have those 12" black frisbee's along with the 7" little brother along with the snap ,crackle and pop. Atlease they fly better then cd's.

Digital downloads. They are for the birds. No problem with Flac or Wave. MP3's NO....

I remember back when I got my first mp3 play.It was a Diamond Rio 300 with a whopping 32mb internal memory plus a external card of 32mb.Hahahahaha.LOL.that was 1999.Payed about $150 for it.Wow MP3's.I love mp3's. No more carting cd's and cassettes in the car.I can leave the walkman home.take the mp3 player anywhere.No skipping anymore.I love it.It still plays today.but the display is blurry.And of course those P to P sharing sites showed up.We know what happen there.

KarmaContestant

04-19-2012, 12:20 AM

I'm 29 as well & also buy my music exclusively on CDs. I've lost far too many electronic files over the years to dead computers & lost mp3 players to buy music via downloading. More than anything, I like buying a physical product so I can have it as a backup.

Me too - which is why I buy my favorites on CD or vinyl.

I've never lost a digital file, in almost a decade of buying them... *crosses fingers*

Macfanforever

04-19-2012, 01:43 PM

I'm 29 as well & also buy my music exclusively on CDs. I've lost far too many electronic files over the years to dead computers & lost mp3 players to buy music via downloading. More than anything, I like buying a physical product so I can have it as a backup.

I am actually down to listening to all my music in mp3 format, though... the convenience of today's tiny iPods can't be beat. I can clip my iPod to my belt buckle in the morning, plug it up to my soundbar on my work computer, and when I get home can do the same with my home theater system. Since I have only a motorcycle for transportation these days, hauling around my giant CD book was no longer an option, & pointing & clicking with iTunes on my laptop is far easier than shuffling around for CDs.

I agree about losing files.The way the blank cdr's are going with the silver flaking,cracking and whatever else.I have not burned a cd in ages.I agree .I rather have the physical copy of the cd in my music library.I backup everything on my 4 external drives .which add's up to about 6.5TB altogether. My problem is now try not to lose my usb drives,SD cards physically.