Videos: Opening Night *spoilers* [Archive]

LiamMcConville

03-02-2009, 12:24 AM

Thanks to Sandor on "the other board!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wfL-RC2zA&eurl=http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=39227&feature=player_embedded

Hawkeye

03-02-2009, 12:26 AM

Holy **** thats fast! Im going to see it in person in 2 weeks so Im gonna hold off on watching, my will power is at least good for two weeks.

carrie721

03-02-2009, 12:34 AM

:shocked::shocked::shocked:

BTFLCHLD

03-02-2009, 12:35 AM

thankyou.thankyou.

Livia

03-02-2009, 12:36 AM

*thud* I'm verklempt. Goosebumps on the "did I EVAAAAAAH really care that much..." at 1:05-1:06. Wow. That plunky guitar sounds overbearing in some spots, but I think it's just the recording.

fleetwoodtrick

03-02-2009, 12:36 AM

OMFG. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ****, everyone else in the house is asleep. I think I'd be murdered if I turned my sound on, so I'll just listen. Thanks Liam!

LukeA

03-02-2009, 12:37 AM

Thank you for posting this!

michelej1

03-02-2009, 12:40 AM

Beautiful. I knew it would be filmed eventually, but I didn't know someone would get the opening night.

Thanks for this.

Michele

jbrownsjr

03-02-2009, 12:44 AM

Liam you have defined new technology..... thank you!

desrtangl

03-02-2009, 12:45 AM

Wow Liam...I was coming over to post my video and you already did it! Thanx! I took others and will be posting over on Seven Wonders and then here too! It was a GRRREAT show!!!

jmn3

03-02-2009, 12:49 AM

Thanks for posting this! What a great concert tonight!

kak125

03-02-2009, 12:52 AM

thank you so much for posting this song. It was nice to watch it again and it was so beautiful. Now I just need an mp3 of this. HA!
the show was so good though and I am sad its over already. I really need to hit Cleveland or something to see them again. I never though I would say this but I think they can drop Dreams now. Its just boring to me now.

jmn3

03-02-2009, 12:54 AM

thank you so much for posting this song. It was nice to watch it again and it was so beautiful. Now I just need an mp3 of this. HA!
the show was so good though and I am sad its over already. I really need to hit Cleveland or something to see them again. I never though I would say this but I think they can drop Dreams now. Its just boring to me now.

I know...Dreams is a good song but I was sitting there thinking, "okay, great, so um, can we move along?" while they were playing it. I guess being that it's their only #1 single, we can rest assured, it is never going anywhere as long as Stevie is there.

louielouie2000

03-02-2009, 12:55 AM

Yikes... it went over like a lead balloon. My guess is it'll be dropped before too long. Stevie didn't even look very confident singing it, and even seemed apologetic when it was over. I wanted to like it, and kept pinching myself that I was finally seeing a live rendition of one of my all time favs... but it's just TOO SLOW for the stage. :sorry:

desrtangl

03-02-2009, 01:01 AM

Stand Back- "AGAIN 1,2,3,4"

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Hawkeye

03-02-2009, 01:10 AM

Wow the energy level on Stand Back is about 1/4 of what it was at every single SYW show. 1,2,3,4 oooh yeah ending is awseome though.

Phoenix

03-02-2009, 01:11 AM

THAT was like oxygen.:angel: thank you.

wondergirl9847

03-02-2009, 01:25 AM

The Stand Back twirl...OMG, I laughed like a psycho. She looked like she was going in slow motion. Sorry, it was funny.

Storms was beautiful.

Thanks for posting the videos!! I won't be going to see FM this go-round.

desrtangl

03-02-2009, 01:26 AM

kak125

03-02-2009, 01:28 AM

Yeah Stevie did seem to be in slow motion or something. I thought she sounded really good but she didnt move around much at all. I havent seen her since 05 but after watching her Soundstage dvd multiple times I guess I just kinda expected to come out all amped up and stuff. It could have nerves or something but I hope she loosens up a bit for the rest of the tour. I find myself now focued on Lindsey when I go to the FM shows now. He just has so much darn energy.

Hawkeye

03-02-2009, 01:35 AM

Stevie had tons of energy for almost all of her solo shows from 2005-2008. And while she wasnt always at the top of her game for the Say You Will Tour I have yet to see one Stand Back that wasn't absolutely BLAZING from that tour. In fact if someone could post Madison Square Garden from September 03, its on Youtube but I couldn't post it here, It's like watching an exercise video, even more energetic then LIB.

Little Nicki

03-02-2009, 01:40 AM

I don't understand why Stevie always sings so darned loud. In every quiet song, she's basically belting the whole time. Storms is awfully good here but it would take it to a whole new level if Stevie would put some subtlety and feeling into the vocal. I would think lightening up on the volume once in a while would help her vocal stamina too.

Oh Well is awesome. Lindsey doesn't play much lead stuff anymore that is quite that technical. He mostly just tears at his guitar during solos now. It's great to hear him doing speedy technical stuff just like he used to.

kak125

03-02-2009, 01:41 AM

thank you so much for posting Oh well. I have to say for me it was the best song of the night next to Storms.
anybody got silver springs? I thought Stevie did a great job on it and I think she sang the Still I am a fool part as well. I like when she does that.

jmn3

03-02-2009, 01:45 AM

Awesome to hear others with Oh Well love. I absolutely thought it, along with Storms, were the highlights of the night!

kak125

03-02-2009, 01:49 AM

I so agree with you. Storms and Oh well were the highlights of the show for me. I also enjoyed Monday Morning as the opener. I was expecting The Chain so I was pleasantly surprised. I really thought Beautiful Child would be in the setlist as well. I really missed hearing that song.

louielouie2000

03-02-2009, 01:58 AM

I don't understand why Stevie always sings so darned loud. In every quiet song, she's basically belting the whole time. Storms is awfully good here but it would take it to a whole new level if Stevie would put some subtlety and feeling into the vocal. I would think lightening up on the volume once in a while would help her vocal stamina too.

Yeah she definitely has a problem with projecting too much. You can totally see she realized that while singing the first few lines of Sara for her Soundstage. She took it down a few notches, and sang beautifully. Storms was good when she wasn't belting. But it wasn't too pretty when she did :sorry: .

jmn3

03-02-2009, 01:58 AM

I so agree with you. Storms and Oh well were the highlights of the show for me. I also enjoyed Monday Morning as the opener. I was expecting The Chain so I was pleasantly surprised. I really thought Beautiful Child would be in the setlist as well. I really missed hearing that song.

I knew as soon as the entire band was on stage before any drumming occurred that they had to be doing something else. Plus, I could hear Mick start doing a little tapping count and there was no way it would be The Chain. What a pleasant surprise. Plus, I just really think there is something awesome about the lights coming up and the song just blasting off. The Chain has that nice little burning intro that boils over with John's solo and kicks off the show, but I think it works just as well in the second slot.

I'll bet that with Storms, Beautiful Child was put to rest. I couldn't see Stevie doing two relatively unknowns from Tusk in one set. If they decide to drop Silver Springs as the encore (which I thought worked beautifully) they could replace it with Beautiful Child (or replace it with Storms and replace that slot with BC).

wolfontherun

03-02-2009, 01:59 AM

*thud* I'm verklempt. Goosebumps on the "did I EVAAAAAAH really care that much..." at 1:05-1:06. Wow. That plunky guitar sounds overbearing in some spots, but I think it's just the recording.

Yup she sang that line to perfection. Glad to see she still has it.

wolfontherun

03-02-2009, 02:02 AM

Yikes... it went over like a lead balloon. My guess is it'll be dropped before too long. Stevie didn't even look very confident singing it, and even seemed apologetic when it was over. I wanted to like it, and kept pinching myself that I was finally seeing a live rendition of one of my all time favs... but it's just TOO SLOW for the stage. :sorry:

Or maybe she had the audience in the palm of her hands, which is where she had me.

macpai

03-02-2009, 02:02 AM

kak125

03-02-2009, 02:03 AM

jmn3, yeah that makes sense now and it was worth it to be able to see Storms on this tour. I heard Beautiful Child 3 times on last tour so I guess I was just getting a little greedy, HA!

jmn3

03-02-2009, 02:05 AM

jmn3, yeah that makes sense now and it was worth it to be able to see Storms on this tour. I heard Beautiful Child 3 times on last tour so I guess I was just getting a little greedy, HA!

No problem getting greedy. Hell, in my happy world, they would have played about 35 songs tonight including both Storms and BC!

kak125

03-02-2009, 02:10 AM

I hear ya! When they did Silver Springs and left the stage I was like No, No this cant be it. My hubby told me to get my jacket and we both looked at each other like hmm maybe there is going to be another song and then the lights came on. For some reason I just expected something else to end the show. I just need to hear Sisters of the Moon live just once. Somebody needs to find Lindsey and tell him we want that song! I still cant believe he came out in red though. I was like yes no white shirt!
I am so tired right now and should go to sleep but i cant stop writing about this show. Dammit, why does it have to be over already?!

wolfontherun

03-02-2009, 02:11 AM

Stand Back- "AGAIN 1,2,3,4"

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"No one looked as I TURNED by" ??? What the ???

jmn3

03-02-2009, 02:13 AM

I hear ya! When they did Silver Springs and left the stage I was like No, No this cant be it. My hubby told me to get my jacket and we both looked at each other like hmm maybe there is going to be another song and then the lights came on. For some reason I just expected something else to end the show. I just need to hear Sisters of the Moon live just once. Somebody needs to find Lindsey and tell him we want that song! I still cant believe he came out in red though. I was like yes no white shirt!
I am so tired right now and should go to sleep but i cant stop writing about this show. Dammit, why does it have to be over already?!

Ha, I thought the same thing. When they came out after GYOW and before WT I was thinking..man, I would friggin die right now if I hear the opening chords of Sisters...I can't impart upon anyone how much of a letdown it was when I heard World Turning start. Honestly, I've posted this a few times tonight already, but where did they get the idea that World Turning makes a good encore?

jmn3

03-02-2009, 02:15 AM

"No one looked as I TURNED by" ??? What the ???

Not nearly as WTFable as "If your life is good to you then look what tomorrow will bring" or whatever the hell she does to Don't Stop. When Chris went to the show in 2003 she must have been sitting there thinking "what the hell did she just sing? Is this payback for my Rhiannon rehearsal, "dreams unwind, etcetera etcetera etcetera" shtick???"

Sorcerer386

03-02-2009, 02:18 AM

Lol, I just realized, that's me in the lower right hand corner of the video still for Stand Back.

kak125

03-02-2009, 02:19 AM

Yeah I knew right before the show started that they werent going to play Sisters of the Moon because the girls to the right of me said their friend saw the setlist. She was like yeah no sisters before I said anything about it. It really seems that a lot of FM fans want to hear this song. I really think Stevie could nail it, actually I know she could.
I enjoyed World Turning on the last FM tour but this time it wasnt the same. I think they can drop Dreams (even though they wont), Gypsy (am I the only one that doesnt think this song is that good live anymore?), Second Hand News and World Turning and throw in more stuff from Tango (besides Big Love) and Say You Will. I missed not hearing Come and I really wish they could have found a way to do Thrown Down or Everybody Finds Out just once. I know greedy greedy!

Sorcerer386

03-02-2009, 02:21 AM

Yeah I knew right before the show started that they werent going to play Sisters of the Moon because the girls to the right of me said their friend saw the setlist. She was like yeah no sisters before I said anything about it. It really seems that a lot of FM fans want to hear this song. I really think Stevie could nail it, actually I know she could.
I enjoyed World Turning on the last FM tour but this time it wasnt the same. I think they can drop Dreams (even though they wont), Gypsy (am I the only one that doesnt think this song is that good live anymore?), Second Hand News and World Turning and throw in more stuff from Tango (besides Big Love) and Say You Will. I missed not hearing Come and I really wish they could have found a way to do Thrown Down or Everybody Finds Out just once. I know greedy greedy!

Although I know it's a song long since forgotten, I figured since it was the Hits Tour they would do Seven Wonders. I was waiting for it, but nope.

kak125

03-02-2009, 02:30 AM

ha that was going to be my next post saying how i would love to hear seven wonders live. I absolutely love that song and it would have been an excellent choice to do live. I think your reading my mind tonight.

Lindsey Jr.

03-02-2009, 04:52 AM

;) It's only the first show :D

danax6

03-02-2009, 05:21 AM

Holy ****nuts on a cracker. Storms is awesome.

That's it, I'm flying to America.

kennation

03-02-2009, 07:39 AM

Stand Back- "AGAIN 1,2,3,4"

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Now, that was unexpected and great! 1234!!! I liked it. I am a little more excited about that song...

bikerchic

03-02-2009, 09:19 AM

Now, that was unexpected and great! 1234!!! I liked it. I am a little more excited about that song...

I liked it too.

BellaDonna93

03-02-2009, 09:42 AM

Well, I thought that Storms was awesome! Really great! Stand Back was great but I think Stevie was a little bit nervous 'cause it was the first show....maybe....it's just the first, you know, we will see many more Stand Back performance, both you in the U.S that'll be on the shows and we in Europe that will watch it on youtube...:) (I hope they'll come here to the summer!!)

Thank you A LOT for posting thise videos so fast here! You rock!

Peace and love,
/Belladonna93

desrtangl

03-02-2009, 09:59 AM

My final installment...

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StandbackStevie

03-02-2009, 10:07 AM

thanks for posting video clip of standback awesome and love the clip as well of storms performance great sound and clip thanks can't wait for march 14th in connecticut at the mohegan sun. i love she changed standback a bit love it

Villavic

03-02-2009, 10:19 AM

WWOOOWWWW THAANKS!!!
Can't wait 2 months for Dallas!!!!!

BTFLCHLD

03-02-2009, 10:48 AM

thankyou desertangel...fantastic! Ohwell is a special treat and I never tire of ISA...TESTOSTERONE>>>>Stevie gets pouty when she isn't the center of attention...shouldn't we all know that by now? I'm not so sure she will be getting any 'happier' as this tour moves along. IMO, both Stevie and Lindsey would be better off with their solo gigs...they both seem to enjoy that A LOT. :shrug:

Moz

03-02-2009, 11:07 AM

I agree with everyone else about Sisters. I'd **** twice and die if they did it live.

Yup she sang that line to perfection. Glad to see she still has it.

That part made me cringe. :sorry: I don't like it when she oversings parts like that - IMO she sounds so nasally. The rest of the song was pretty sweet, though.
Somebody should tell Stevie that when she shouts, it doesn't always sound that great. Same with Lindsey - he likes to sing some parts really slow and quiet, which works sometimes, but not all the time.

But the last minute of Oh Well was on fiaaaahhhhh! :cool:

skcin

03-02-2009, 01:13 PM

Yeah she definitely has a problem with projecting too much. You can totally see she realized that while singing the first few lines of Sara for her Soundstage. She took it down a few notches, and sang beautifully. Storms was good when she wasn't belting. But it wasn't too pretty when she did :sorry: .

Hejira & I posted about this recently - belting vs. soft & whispery. ITA with your opinion on Storms. I wanted to love it, buit I don't. :sorry: I like the lower parts a lot: "I did not deal with the road" and "though the love has always been" but the higher notes were painful. I actually cringed at "did I ever really care that much." I'm so disappointed. :distress: And I'm truly upset that I AM disappointed, because I wanted to love it.

I'll bet that with Storms, Beautiful Child was put to rest. I couldn't see Stevie doing two relatively unknowns from Tusk in one set. /QUOTE]

Exactly.

[QUOTE=kak125;801506]I enjoyed World Turning on the last FM tour but this time it wasnt the same. I think they can drop Dreams (even though they wont), Gypsy (am I the only one that doesnt think this song is that good live anymore?), Second Hand News and World Turning and throw in more stuff from Tango (besides Big Love) and Say You Will. I missed not hearing Come and I really wish they could have found a way to do Thrown Down or Everybody Finds Out just once. I know greedy greedy!

No, you;'re not alone. I don't think Gypsy translates well at all. But casual fans won't care, they'll be happy to hear it even if it's not great.

That part made me cringe. :sorry: I don't like it when she oversings parts like that - IMO she sounds so nasally. The rest of the song was pretty sweet, though.
Somebody should tell Stevie that when she shouts, it doesn't always sound that great. Same with Lindsey - he likes to sing some parts really slow and quiet, which works sometimes, but not all the time.

But the last minute of Oh Well was on fiaaaahhhhh! :cool:

Seriously. She needs to sing Storms like she sang "Say Goodbye on the last tour.

jmn3

03-02-2009, 01:24 PM

I'd be willing to bet Storms really comes into its own as the tour progresses. She has never sung this in front of an audience before and I'll guarantee she had some nerves. I agree about the high parts being a bit much, but I was there, and it really translated well. I didn't see it as lull in the show where the whole thing fell apart. People were pretty transfixed on watching them perform this great old tune.

Gypsy was a clunker and it's been a clunker always on stage. The Dance DVD version was alright, and the Mirage Tour video version is classic in its own way, but neither of them, nor any version I've ever heard, have ever lived up to the magic that the studio version has. That truly was and is perfection.

My biggest disappointment (performance wise) last night was honestly Go Your Own Way. This is my favorite song of theirs and probably favorite song of anyone. I love it. I've loved every version and listening to the subtle changes through the years. Last night I just found it very blah to listen to. NOT the solo, but the verses. The solo is legendary as always, but the verses seemed to be arranged exactly like Lindsey's solo tours. I don't know how to explain it, but listen to a 2007 LB solo version and then a version from the SYW tour. Generally with the Mac, the song seemed meatier, heavier...something. The same with I'm So Afraid and Tusk...I just wasn't altogether too thrilled with the LB solo tour-ification of these songs.

skcin

03-02-2009, 01:38 PM

What are people putting in for keywords & titles on Youtube? If you do a general search, you can't find the vids. I tried Fleetwood Mac, Fleetwood Mac Live,
Fleetwood Mac Pittsburgh, Fleetwood Mac 2009, etc. Nothing. If you want more hits on your vids, you gotta put plenty of info in the description. :wavey:

I found Don't Stop. :shocked: Painful to my ears, and I don't mind the SYW versions.

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EveryHour

03-02-2009, 01:39 PM

I'd be willing to bet Storms really comes into its own as the tour progresses. She has never sung this in front of an audience before and I'll guarantee she had some nerves. I agree about the high parts being a bit much, but I was there, and it really translated well. I didn't see it as lull in the show where the whole thing fell apart. People were pretty transfixed on watching them perform this great old tune.

Thank you for this perspective. I really enjoy and appreciate the demeanor with which your entire post is presented.

She needs to sing 'Storms' like she sang 'Say Goodbye' on the last tour.

It's easy to jump the gun and wonder if that side of her voice is gone due to nose damage, and that she's doing the very best she can with what she still has. But then you remember things like 'Say Goodbye' (or the tone she achieves when, say, doing the 'Sorcerer' yodel) and you know she's still got it. I am one who mostly tends to defend Stevie, but I do definitely wish she would vary her tone more like she used to, granted that we know she IS still capable of it.

Gypsy was a clunker and it's always been a clunker on stage. The Dance DVD version was alright, and the Mirage Tour video version is classic in its own way, but neither of them, nor any version I've ever heard, have ever lived up to the magic that the studio version has. That truly was and is perfection.

I could not agree with you more on every point. 'Gypsy' has NEVER been a knockout live, IMO.

skcin

03-02-2009, 01:41 PM

I'd be willing to bet Storms really comes into its own as the tour progresses. She has never sung this in front of an audience before and I'll guarantee she had some nerves. I agree about the high parts being a bit much, but I was there, and it really translated well. I didn't see it as lull in the show where the whole thing fell apart. People were pretty transfixed on watching them perform this great old tune.

let's hope so.

Ulpian

03-02-2009, 01:44 PM

What are people putting in for keywords & titles on Youtube? If you do a general search, you can't find the vids. I tried Fleetwood Mac, Fleetwood Mac Live,
Fleetwood Mac Pittsburgh, Fleetwood Mac 2009, etc. Nothing. If you want more hits on your vids, you gotta put plenty of info in the description. :wavey:

I found Don't Stop. :shocked: Painful to my ears, and I don't mind the SYW versions.

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I'd really like to see/hear SYLM from that show... but can't find it :distress:

Is it up somewhere? *hopes*

skcin

03-02-2009, 02:21 PM

^ Me too, but I haven't found it yet either. Doesn't seem to be much on Youtube yet. Hopefully someone got the full show on DVD & the boot will start circulating soon.

BTFLCHLD

03-02-2009, 02:24 PM

Betsy

03-02-2009, 02:33 PM

Ulpian: I'd really like to see/hear SYLM from that show... but can't find it :distress:

SKCIN: ^ Me too, but I haven't found it yet either. Doesn't seem to be much on Youtube yet. Hopefully someone got the full show on DVD & the boot will start circulating soon.

Ditto what they said.

BTFLCHLD

03-02-2009, 02:36 PM

skcin

03-02-2009, 02:37 PM

Thanks Nicki. Keep looking. ;)

BTFLCHLD

03-02-2009, 02:37 PM

gldstwmn

03-02-2009, 03:09 PM

Thanks to Sandor on "the other board!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wfL-RC2zA&eurl=http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=39227&feature=player_embedded

This gave me chills. I was completely shocked when she went for that high note.

Nicks Fan

03-02-2009, 03:35 PM

Since I am goinmg to meet Mick Fleetwood in Ottawa I think I will ask him
about Seven Wonders and SOTM. Who knows maybe they will ressurect them by the time the tour is over.

Matt

ShangriLaTroubl

03-02-2009, 03:50 PM

I think that version of Silver Springs was the best, vocally, that she's done at least since The Dance tour. I'm glad she did the "never get away, never get away, never get away."

Hopefully as the tour progresses and she loosens up, as she usually does, she'll not only sing it with force, but sing it AT Lindsey, that always makes for some entertainment. :nod:

kak125

03-02-2009, 04:14 PM

Yes please ask him about seven wonders and then stress to him the importance of adding in SOTM and while your at it tell him we want a new album after the tour, HA! :)

skcin

03-02-2009, 04:18 PM

I think that version of Silver Springs was the best, vocally, that she's done at least since The Dance tour. I'm glad she did the "never get away, never get away, never get away."

I was pleasantly surprised, actually. Gave me chills. Not sure why. :p

David

03-02-2009, 04:21 PM

This gave me chills. I was completely shocked when she went for that high note.I like "Gold & Braid" better, I think. :thumbsup:

goldustsongbird

03-02-2009, 05:21 PM

That wasn't bad. :shocked: She really hit her stride near the end. The first half was nasal and off-key (sometimes!) It sounded like she was just getting the feel of the song, so hopefully she'll figure it out. 5:00 - the end was right on.

At least she got Sara right. :thumbsup:

BTFLCHLD

03-02-2009, 07:32 PM

BTFLCHLD

03-02-2009, 07:33 PM

BTFLCHLD

03-02-2009, 07:35 PM

Rox A Little

03-02-2009, 08:08 PM

I was pleasantly surprised, actually. Gave me chills. Not sure why. :p

Cause it's never ever been done live! 30 years is a real long way to go....

Rox

JazmenFlowers

03-02-2009, 09:52 PM

Seriously. She needs to sing Storms like she sang "Say Goodbye on the last tour.
word.

I liked it (and it wasn't a trainwreck, imo) for the simple fact that it was something new and it's one of my favs, but I deffo didn't love it.

ShangriLaTroubl

03-02-2009, 09:57 PM

word.

I liked it (and it wasn't a trainwreck, imo) for the simple fact that it was something new and it's one of my favs, but I deffo didn't love it.

I think if she keeps it, it will get better as the tour progresses. Opening night is usually always awkward for her.

MiniLindsey

03-02-2009, 10:26 PM

Don't Stop is being played a step lower in D, for those who are musically inclined.

drzubritsky

03-03-2009, 12:25 AM

Yeah she definitely has a problem with projecting too much. You can totally see she realized that while singing the first few lines of Sara for her Soundstage. She took it down a few notches, and sang beautifully. Storms was good when she wasn't belting. But it wasn't too pretty when she did :sorry: .

This has been my issue with Stevie's vocals for the past dozen years. While I can accept the fact she doesn't have the upper range of her youth, I see no reason why she can't vary the dynamics a bit. Some more variety in dynamics would partially compensate for the lost high notes, and provide some opportunities for new interpretations that may be just as interesting in a different way.

I wonder if the vocal coaching is actually degrading the quality of her interpretations? It sounds as if she's trying so hard to maintain vocal control that she's not varying her voice at all. I think The Dance was the last time we heard more dynamic vocals and that was before she started regular voice coaching. On The Dance, she occasionally summoned that breathy quality that has since disappeared (e.g. the "rock on, ancient queen" section on GDW).

This is not just a problem in concert but on studio recordings as well. The only vocal variation of any significance that I can recall since The Dance was that rare moment of semi-falsetto on "Sorcerer".

StreetAngel86

03-03-2009, 07:21 AM

Yup she sang that line to perfection. Glad to see she still has it.

it's a lil rough
maybe coz it's live and i'm used to the album version
but i like it
:thumbsup:

plunky guitar doesnt bother me lol

skcin

03-03-2009, 09:59 AM

Cause it's never ever been done live! 30 years is a real long way to go....

Rox

Uh...I was talking about Silver Springs. I am not happy with Storms. :distress:

HejiraNYC

03-03-2009, 10:56 AM

This is not just a problem in concert but on studio recordings as well. The only vocal variation of any significance that I can recall since The Dance was that rare moment of semi-falsetto on "Sorcerer".

And don't forget the 2005 dance version of "Dreams." Granted, I am still not entirely how much of that song was Stevie vs. Robo-Stevie. :shrug:

Listening to the live "Storms," I can't help but wonder whether her vocal coach is encouraging her to project from the diaphragm for every song, which is supposedly considered "proper form." But I suspect this is something you would do only in an un-mic'd setting, e.g., Broadway musical or cabaret, where singers are taught to project to the last row of the venue. Her phrasing of "Storms" strikes me as being a bit cabaret-ish- where she sustains notes that really should have been clipped, and oversinging/over-enunciating passages that should have been whispered or slurred a little bit.

But then again, maybe she is rendering a new interpretation of "Storms." The original is more of a quiet, introspective cry-yourself-to-sleep soliloquy. The live version sounds more anguished, more angry and self-flagellating, especially where she screams "...so I searched to find an answer there..." Sure one can argue that she phoned in her Pittsburgh performance for the most part, but this is the one song where she really connected with the emotion of the song.

Vocals aside, I lurv, lurv, lurv the live arrangement of "Storms." I was wondering how they would have been able to pull off such a production-specific arrangement live, and I think it was done incredibly well. In fact, I would love to hear a new FM album of nothing but stripped down arrangements- a single guitar, percussion, bass and Fender Rhodes...

macpai

03-03-2009, 12:27 PM

Thanks so much for all the videos!!! It's a joy to have them!

skcin

03-03-2009, 12:36 PM

This has been my issue with Stevie's vocals for the past dozen years. While I can accept the fact she doesn't have the upper range of her youth, I see no reason why she can't vary the dynamics a bit. Some more variety in dynamics would partially compensate for the lost high notes, and provide some opportunities for new interpretations that may be just as interesting in a different way.

I wonder if the vocal coaching is actually degrading the quality of her interpretations? It sounds as if she's trying so hard to maintain vocal control that she's not varying her voice at all. I think The Dance was the last time we heard more dynamic vocals and that was before she started regular voice coaching. On The Dance, she occasionally summoned that breathy quality that has since disappeared (e.g. the "rock on, ancient queen" section on GDW).

This is not just a problem in concert but on studio recordings as well. The only vocal variation of any significance that I can recall since The Dance was that rare moment of semi-falsetto on "Sorcerer".

For sure. Monotone at times. :distress:

Listening to the live "Storms," I can't help but wonder whether her vocal coach is encouraging her to project from the diaphragm for every song, which is supposedly considered "proper form." But I suspect this is something you would do only in an un-mic'd setting, e.g., Broadway musical or cabaret, where singers are taught to project to the last row of the venue. Her phrasing of "Storms" strikes me as being a bit cabaret-ish- where she sustains notes that really should have been clipped, and oversinging/over-enunciating passages that should have been whispered or slurred a little bit.

But then again, maybe she is rendering a new interpretation of "Storms." The original is more of a quiet, introspective cry-yourself-to-sleep soliloquy. The live version sounds more anguished, more angry and self-flagellating, especially where she screams "...so I searched to find an answer there..." Sure one can argue that she phoned in her Pittsburgh performance for the most part, but this is the one song where she really connected with the emotion of the song.

I agree with all of this. I thought about that last night - who am I to tell Stevie how she should sing a 30 year old song today? Maybe SHE wants it to be louder, more anguished. Of course, that doesn't mean I have to like it. ;) But instead of assuming she f*cked it up, I should be open to the possibility that this is how she wants it performed.

michelej1

03-03-2009, 01:29 PM

I wonder if the vocal coaching is actually degrading the quality of her interpretations? It sounds as if she's trying so hard to maintain vocal control that she's not varying her voice at all. I think The Dance was the last time we heard more dynamic vocals and that was before she started regular voice coaching. On The Dance, she occasionally summoned that breathy quality that has since disappeared (e.g. the "rock on, ancient queen" section on GDW).

This is not just a problem in concert but on studio recordings as well. The only vocal variation of any significance that I can recall since The Dance was that rare moment of semi-falsetto on "Sorcerer".

I don't really know how to say this, but Stevie sang Landslide differently at the end. I will say that I believe she had more modulation and hope that that means something.:laugh:. I mean she would take a passage and make her voice go up and down more through the notes. It was different than she usually does it. You know how over-ambitious singers kind of draw out the National Anthem at base ball games? Well, Stevie seemed to draw out the notes in Landslide Sunday. Doing that she almost made me miss my cue. But the experimentation was nice.

Michele

HejiraNYC

03-03-2009, 01:34 PM

I agree with all of this. I thought about that last night - who am I to tell Stevie how she should sing a 30 year old song today? Maybe SHE wants it to be louder, more anguished. Of course, that doesn't mean I have to like it. ;) But instead of assuming she f*cked it up, I should be open to the possibility that this is how she wants it performed.

Also, if you listen to the drum machine demo version of "Storms," she is definitely belting the vocal. So perhaps that is the way she intended it to be sung originally. And one could make the case that the official version is sung so softly because Stevie was having voice problems; in the Lindsey-and-Stevie demo of "Storms," a very hoarse-sounding Stevie was complaining about not having "a lot of voice" that day. For all we know, the final vocal for "Storms" could have been culled from the demo sessions recorded on that date- the hoarseness definitely added something to that song that probably could not be captured again. And I also seem to remember that "Dreams" was recorded while Stevie had a cold... sometimes these things just work out for the best!

desrtangl

03-03-2009, 09:07 PM

Since I am goinmg to meet Mick Fleetwood in Ottawa I think I will ask him
about Seven Wonders and SOTM. Who knows maybe they will ressurect them by the time the tour is over.

Matt

Yes...please do. I was really pulling for Seven Wonders. Sisters of the Moon doubtful, but SW she for sure can do and was a hit! ASK ASK ASK!!!...lol:blob2:

BTFLCHLD

03-04-2009, 05:10 PM

embedding disabled by request

rhiannon part 1 (clip) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpkAg9ThJLA)

rhiannon part 2 (clip) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1G3kAm-VTg)

ISA!! :](HOT) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYhdx7rDxm8)

newyawka

03-05-2009, 12:41 AM

Go Insane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxhJyoiG02Q

BTFLCHLD

03-05-2009, 12:47 AM

Go Insane thankyouthankyou :]

digging the set!

WelshWitchPMD

03-05-2009, 12:49 AM

Go Insane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxhJyoiG02Q

Oh thank you so much! I can even see myself using my camera at one point.

Beachwood Mac

03-05-2009, 01:15 AM

Go Insane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxhJyoiG02Q

Great video! Who is the male singing back-up?

wondergirl9847

03-05-2009, 01:33 AM

Okay, Landslide got me a bit choked up and Go Insane is the first time I've smiled watching these videos. Thank you for posting them all!

skcin

03-05-2009, 01:17 PM

Go Insane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxhJyoiG02Q

Thanks for the link. I'm liking full band version.

BTFLCHLD

03-05-2009, 02:59 PM

tusk (clip) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf7-0znBNtQ)

David

03-05-2009, 04:59 PM

Thanks for the link. I'm liking full band version.
I do, too.

It just occurred to me that John probably thought he didn't have to learn any new bass lines, but he had to learn this!

GypsyDreams

03-05-2009, 06:24 PM

Thanks so much for posting these videos! Silver Springs almost made me cry ...awww :)

bucklind17

03-05-2009, 07:49 PM

Has any Oh Well surfaced yet? I'm real curious how that's going down.

macpai

03-05-2009, 09:07 PM

Has any Oh Well surfaced yet? I'm real curious how that's going down.

Oh Well is on the second page of this thread and it's bloody amazing.

bucklind17

03-05-2009, 09:24 PM

Oh Well is on the second page of this thread and it's bloody amazing.

Oops, totally missed that whole page. Thanks!

StreetAngel86

03-05-2009, 10:20 PM

And don't forget the 2005 dance version of "Dreams." Granted, I am still not entirely how much of that song was Stevie vs. Robo-Stevie. :shrug:

:lol:

i dont care much for that jazzed up version either

Vocals aside, I lurv, lurv, lurv the live arrangement of "Storms." I was wondering how they would have been able to pull off such a production-specific arrangement live, and I think it was done incredibly well. In fact, I would love to hear a new FM album of nothing but stripped down arrangements- a single guitar, percussion, bass and Fender Rhodes...

amen!
i dont know why people were/are bitching about Stevie's vocals and/or the arrangement of this.
i LOVE it
it's dark
it's moody
it's nothing like the album version

i'm. addict.

BTFLCHLD

03-06-2009, 01:10 AM

OH WELL (additional clip) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0_I_pgHcos)

Janis_no1

03-06-2009, 06:07 AM

Go Insane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxhJyoiG02Q

i really enjoy this version! Lindsey has such vocal range and looks like his really enjoying it. Very "pepe" (pep eee) ie: lots of spring in his step

Janis_no1

03-06-2009, 06:10 AM

Hmmm , my comment will get lost in the pages, however, would like to add my opinion too of storms.
- great to hear it live after so long
- was stunned throughout the entire video.. thank you
- thought he belted it out too much, like thats all she could do and too nasal too since she over projected all the way up and out.

Thats why i loved "say goodbye", gently sung, same as "Insider" sung so gently with tom petty, what a sweet pleasure it was to hear her.

BTFLCHLD

03-06-2009, 01:09 PM

GDW 3:09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-HRDyf1V6k)

rhiannon 1:15 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XWOkLNMSkE)

ISA :55 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KzCaUvdkvM)

ISA 3:26 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V16BPvfZM8)

KenshiMaster16

03-07-2009, 01:40 PM

GOD I cannot wait to see them in Greensboro!! Lindsey just seems SO into everything in every video I've seen so far. As the tour progresses it seems Stevie's starting to lighten up, too. Man, I think this might be better than the SYW show I caught. :blob2:

kak125

03-07-2009, 01:54 PM

Does anybody have a video clip of GYOW from the Pittsburgh show?

GoS

03-07-2009, 04:12 PM

Great video! Who is the male singing back-up?

That's Stevie... :laugh:

Its probably Neil Haywood but it may be Brett Tuggle.

BTFLCHLD

03-08-2009, 07:20 PM

storms
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silversprings
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Moz

03-09-2009, 01:24 PM

That's Stevie... :laugh:

Its probably Neil Haywood but it may be Brett Tuggle.

Huh. I thought it was a recording because it sounded pretty close to the original to me.

Beachwood Mac

03-09-2009, 01:51 PM

Huh. I thought it was a recording because it sounded pretty close to the original to me.

I actually think you're right. I listened to it a few times after I asked because it really did sound like a recording. Wonder how much they actually use throughout a show?

Lori40

03-09-2009, 02:16 PM

I actually think you're right. I listened to it a few times after I asked because it really did sound like a recording. Wonder how much they actually use throughout a show?

It is a loop. I heard it being played during the sound check.

Hawkeye

03-09-2009, 05:54 PM

storms
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silversprings
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That was the best Silver Springs I've ever seen!!! And I still haven't watched Storms.

BTFLCHLD

03-09-2009, 06:06 PM

That was the best Silver Springs I've ever seen!!! And I still haven't watched Storms. yep...watched again...bumps still with the emotion displayed...and by the 'never get away' I'm electric. :D