Stevie and Lindsey....Unfinished Business?

[iamnotafraid]

Stevie says she agreed to hit the road with Lindsey and risk opening up old wounds again because she sensed a change in her old sparing partner. "He has little girls who are 8 and 4 years old, plus a wife, and he has been living in girl land since coming off the road in 2005. It's softened him up. Instead of treating me as a miserable ex-girlfriend, he's looking at me more like a beloved daughter. He's been very nice and loving to me. This is the guy that I met and fell in love with when I was 17, and I hope it stays that way. No one could come in and make peace between us. Lindsey and I had to."

Lindsey said, "We all want this to work, but there are only 45 dates scheduled. I'm sure there are people in back rooms somewhere talking about more dates in America and elsewhere in the world, but nothing is in the books, nothing has been agreed to. In this band, it's best not to plan too far in advance."

Source Chicago Tribune, by Greg Kot.

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Stevie fell in love with him at the age of 17?
Lindsey looking at Stevie like a daughter?
Lindsey living in "girl land"?
Maybe Will can slap some sense back into him.

[CADreaming]

And the beat goes on...

[BTFLCHLD]

WELL...

Buckingham says if they pull off the tour without any meltdowns, there may be yet one more Fleetwood Mac studio album down the road. But he makes no promises. He has left the band in the past, and he says he will again if he feels things are growing stagnant.

Sounds like The Man is letting The Little Girl In Love know she better watch her Ps and Qs :eek:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/BTFLCHLD/PRIV/SL.jpg

[iamnotafraid]

WELL...

Sounds like The Man is letting The Little Girl In Love know she better watch her Ps and Qs :eek:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/BTFLCHLD/PRIV/SL.jpg

Cool picture BTFLCHLD.

[Erin]

^^
Ditto. I've never seen that one before. Kind of sums up their relationship in one shot.

[njova]

^ I also love that picture, that's from the tusk tour right? It does seem to sum up their relationship around that time.

[iamnotafraid]

^^
Ditto. Kind of sums up their relationship in one shot.

I'd be curious to read what you mean.

And you too njova?

[Lindsey Jr.]

If they will make a new album, what I hope, it might be based again on LB's solo material.

And that pic is the purest "we were together but we f*cked it up a bit"-pic you can find. ;)

From the Tusk tour?

[Erin]

Just the usual wary ambivalence, but we still want to do music together vibe.

[njova]

From that picture I was talking about was how Stevie's got Lindsey wrapped around her little finger that's the vibe I got from it.

[CADreaming]

It's sexy, that's all I know...

[Phoenix]

From that picture I was talking about was how Stevie's got Lindsey wrapped around her little finger that's the vibe I got from it.

NOT AT ALL. In studies of body language, they would tell you that her's is a timid and defensive stance. She has her arms crossed, and is "holding her center". Protecting her self from his judging stare and aggressive posture.
I do love it though. It is beautiful, in its own way...

[ElusiveDreamer]

S looks wistful and pulling herself on and L steps agressively forward while holding a part of himself back ... their dance.

[Phoenix]

S looks wistful and pulling herself on and L steps agressively forward while holding a part of himself back ... their dance.

Pulling herself on?

[ElusiveDreamer]

Pulling herself on?

Yes, sort of like "on and on and on again" from Everyday lyrics, in my opinion.

[GypsyDreams]

A picture is worth a 1000 words.. but that one ... could be worth 2000.. ;)

[StreetAngel86]

Stevie says she agreed to hit the road with Lindsey and risk opening up old wounds again because she sensed a change in her old sparing partner. "He has little girls who are 8 and 4 years old, plus a wife, and he has been living in girl land since coming off the road in 2005. It's softened him up. Instead of treating me as a miserable ex-girlfriend, he's looking at me more like a beloved daughter. He's been very nice and loving to me. This is the guy that I met and fell in love with when I was 17, and I hope it stays that way. No one could come in and make peace between us. Lindsey and I had to."


this is the funniest **** ever
is Mama high???
she's def in her i *heart* linds mood

nice and loving
mwahahaha yah i hope so

girl land lol
poor lindsey
Stevie prob teaches those girls everything she knows :lol:

[iamnotafraid]

girl land lol
poor lindsey
Stevie prob teaches those girls everything she knows :lol:

Now that's a scary thought!

[StreetAngel86]

Now that's a scary thought!

well, um...wouldn't you be worried if lindsey was the one teaching them? :lol:


[and i meant she teaches them good girly behavior not her bad stuff :D]

[RoseGarden]

None of us REALLY know what goes on between them. Both talented and had a goal.
Probably a hot sex life , a love for each other and their careers but drugs and fame /ego/ money distorted the relationship????


I just hope Chain keeps them together for another hot cd!:lol:

[BTFLCHLD]

Boston Herald Interview (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=803116&postcount=1)

BH: So much of your great stuff came out of the band being a mess. If you are all on great terms will it be harder to make a great album?

SN: No. Lindsey and I and our tragic, uptight way of doing things to each other is still the same in so many ways. In many, many ways, Lindsey and I are still the same people that we were when we met at 16 and 17. There’s a part of our relationship that remains unchanged. It doesn’t matter that he’s married with kids. It doesn’t matter what my life is. When we’re together we can still be incredibly teenage. And we still write about each other a lot. We’re still great sources of inspiration for each other. When we’re 90, whoever goes first, the other one will be sitting on a bed alone. We’ll never run out of stuff to write about.

[CADreaming]

Boston Herald Interview (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=803116&postcount=1)

BH: So much of your great stuff came out of the band being a mess. If you are all on great terms will it be harder to make a great album?

SN: No. Lindsey and I and our tragic, uptight way of doing things to each other is still the same in so many ways. In many, many ways, Lindsey and I are still the same people that we were when we met at 16 and 17. There’s a part of our relationship that remains unchanged. It doesn’t matter that he’s married with kids. It doesn’t matter what my life is. When we’re together we can still be incredibly teenage. And we still write about each other a lot. We’re still great sources of inspiration for each other. When we’re 90, whoever goes first, the other one will be sitting on a bed alone. We’ll never run out of stuff to write about.

Is she high?? ;) I mean, it's so hard to know what to do with comments like that, isn't it...

[michelej1]

Is she high?? ;) I mean, it's so hard to know what to do with comments like that, isn't it...

So, what are they doing now? Sitting on the bed together? Also, she sure thinks about people dying a lot (I just got such a kick out of the MOJO interview last tour). It's like she's looking forward to it.

Michele

[StreetAngel86]

So, what are they doing now? Sitting on the bed together? Also, she sure thinks about people dying a lot (I just got such a kick out of the MOJO interview last tour). It's like she's looking forward to it.

Michele



"sitting" :rolleyes:

you know, when she talks about them like that
it's always about them, old age and dying...together
now, she throws in the bed reference

should we infer something from that? :shocked::thumbsup:

[iamnotafraid]

When we’re 90, whoever goes first, the other one will be sitting on a bed alone. We’ll never run out of stuff to write about.

Good thing is that she's planning on Lindsey and herself being around at 90.

Two questions.

1. How many more tours does this leave us?

2. Since "the other one will be sitting alone" what happens to Kristen?

[danax6]

2. Since "the other one will be sitting alone" what happens to Kristen?Dusting off the mantle for the 2-for-1 set of urns? :shrug:

[iamnotafraid]

2-for-1 set of urns?

Huh???

_______________

I've got a name for Stevie & Lindsey's tour (when they are in their 80's),

BUCKINGHAM CREAKS (get it?)

[njova]

I also wonder what she means by when their 90 whichever one goes first the other will sit alone on a bed, did she forget that Lindsey's married. I'm sure the other one will miss the one that does go first but I'm kind of confused by this statement.

[CADreaming]

I also wonder what she means by when their 90 whichever one goes first the other will sit alone on a bed, did she forget that Lindsey's married. I'm sure the other one will miss the one that does go first but I'm kind of confused by this statement.

Apparently, she didn't forget that's he's married - because she said it "doesn't matter".

Remember, she also said in an earlier interview that "not any woman in the world is going to be able to get in the middle of Lindsay and me"...

She is making some pretty bold statements.

ha...I love her.

[kak125]

ha ha i love what she says in that statement. you wonder if lindsey's wife ever reads that stuff. of course there isnt much she can do about it since he brings home the bacon everyday, LOL!

[WelshWitchPMD]

Good thing is that she's planning on Lindsey and herself being around at 90.


2. Since "the other one will be sitting alone" what happens to Kristen?

I doubt that SN or LB really care.

[michelej1]

ha ha i love what she says in that statement. you wonder if lindsey's wife ever reads that stuff. of course there isnt much she can do about it since he brings home the bacon everyday, LOL!

Lindsey's wife doesn't have to worry about what Stevie says. Reading the UTS album lyrics should be enough to keep her plenty busy.

Michele

[Kelly]

Lindsey's wife doesn't have to worry about what Stevie says. Reading the UTS album lyrics should be enough to keep her plenty busy.

Michele


"Lay your head down...no one will see"

"Cry me a river of new dreams, flow just so free"

""I''ll shepherd you"

"Long live the Queen"


Some of my favorites. ;)

[michelej1]

"Lay your head down...no one will see"

"Cry me a river of new dreams, flow just so free"

""I''ll shepherd you"

"Long live the Queen"


Some of my favorites. ;)

And the shadow singer will stand and linger in places no one ever go."

"Magic one, all our dreams are done."

Also, all of Shut Us Down, even though Cory's words are in there too. Lindsey changed many.

Michele

[WelshWitchPMD]

Lindsey's wife doesn't have to worry about what Stevie says. Reading the UTS album lyrics should be enough to keep her plenty busy.

Michele

No truer words have ever been spoken. It is almost like Kristen doesn't even exist. :laugh:

[WelshWitchPMD]

"Lay your head down...no one will see"

"Cry me a river of new dreams, flow just so free"

""I''ll shepherd you"

"Long live the Queen"


Some of my favorites. ;)

KELLY!!! Where you been? Hope you are doing OK. Yes, UTS is one of the best LB songs about SN. ;)

[kak125]

wow those are some interesting lyrics. I gotta find my cd now and read the rest of them, HA!

[Kelly]

KELLY!!! Where you been? Hope you are doing OK. Yes, UTS is one of the best LB songs about SN. ;)

Hey Pattie! :thumbsup: I love your photos in the Rumours forum. Fab job as usual. UTS, the song, is one of the most tender, loving songs. I still adore it. Interesting that he titled the entire album Under the Skin.

;)

[StreetAngel86]

No truer words have ever been spoken. It is almost like Kristen doesn't even exist. :laugh:

Who's Kristen? :confused:





:lol:


KELLY OMG! i've missed your posts
they always warm ma lil SnL heart :nod:

[StreetAngel86]

Apparently, she didn't forget that's he's married - because she said it "doesn't matter".

Remember, she also said in an earlier interview that "not any woman in the world is going to be able to get in the middle of Lindsay and me"...


where was that?
i don't remember it :(
loves it tho!

[CADreaming]

Who's Kristen? :confused:


:lol: :lol:

Lindsey's wife doesn't have to worry about what Stevie says. Reading the UTS album lyrics should be enough to keep her plenty busy.

Michele

Touche!

where was that?
i don't remember it :(
loves it tho!

Here's the link: Sheryl Crow Almost Joined Fleetwood Mac (http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=7572)

[Nico]

I may be speaking too soon, but I can not get over how cute LB and Stevie look together on this tour. There's something sweeter in the way they are with each other, especially Lindsey, that I don't think I really noticed before. In fact, I'm pretty sure I felt that SYW was more staged and prepared whereas now it seems a lot more genuine. And I can't lie, I'm no shipper, but they are the cutest older couple, if it were only true. They just...match. One of my girlfriends was over and I showed her a few pics, since she's seeing them in concert with me, and she thought they were a couple.

Um, sorry Kristen.

[CADreaming]

I may be speaking too soon, but I can not get over how cute LB and Stevie look together on this tour. There's something sweeter in the way they are with each other, especially Lindsey, that I don't think I really noticed before. In fact, I'm pretty sure I felt that SYW was more staged and prepared whereas now it seems a lot more genuine. And I can't lie, I'm no shipper, but they are the cutest older couple, if it were only true. They just...match. One of my girlfriends was over and I showed her a few pics, since she's seeing them in concert with me, and she thought they were a couple.

I agree - they do have that "aura" about them. It's noticeable in the video interviews too. Sorta like what Stevie said on the Chris Isaak show - how by the end of the summer she and Lindsey together were a "combined millionaire"... lol ... just two peas in a very odd pod...

[StreetAngel86]

Here's the link: Sheryl Crow Almost Joined Fleetwood Mac (http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=7572)

aw thanks for that. i hadn't read that
if her and linds can't work out their probs, they may as well throw in the towel :lol: yeah. right. like they're ever going to do either of those!


is it just me, or is it weird that those Long live the [ancient] queen lyrics are not the lyrics printed on the cd sleeve?
considering it's one of the best on the whole cd and all :nod:

and i love how his lyrics mirror her's
ie. the shadow against the wall & the mirror in the sky lyrics
im sure there's more. that's just what sticks out in my mind.

[Kelly]

aw thanks for that. i hadn't read that
if her and linds can't work out their probs, they may as well throw in the towel :lol: yeah. right. like they're ever going to do either of those!


is it just me, or is it weird that those Long live the [ancient] queen lyrics are not the lyrics printed on the cd sleeve?
considering it's one of the best on the whole cd and all :nod:

and i love how his lyrics mirror her's
ie. the shadow against the wall & the mirror in the sky lyrics
im sure there's more. that's just what sticks out in my mind.

He does that ALL THE TIME!

He references "dreams" as much as she does. One that jumped out at me immediately was his use of "full of grace" on his new album. He has obviously heard Fall From Grace, :laugh:. He also used the line "parallel lives" and Stevie has said that about their relationship in interviews more than once. She uses "shadows" all the time and he refers to her as the "shadow singer". They both write about "walls" and how in recent years the walls have come down.

The imagery he uses is so consistent with hers it is spooky. When he used "black angel" in Love Runs Deeper , I was floored. It is so "Steviesque".

[CADreaming]

He does that ALL THE TIME!

He references "dreams" as much as she does. One that jumped out at me immediately was his use of "full of grace" on his new album. He has obviously heard Fall From Grace, :laugh:. He also used the line "parallel lives" and Stevie has said that about their relationship in interviews more than once. She uses "shadows" all the time and he refers to her as the "shadow singer". They both write about "walls" and how in recent years the walls have come down.

The imagery he uses is so consistent with hers it is spooky. When he used "black angel" in Love Runs Deeper , I was floored. It is so "Steviesque".

Great that you mentioned those two songs. I completely agree with you. It's so neat that his wife "gets them" so well, isn't it? I mean, since she co-wrote those two particular songs. I bet they invite Stevie over to play Yahtzee with them...

[michelej1]

He does that ALL THE TIME!

He also used the line "parallel lives" and Stevie has said that about their relationship in interviews more than once.

I don't think she has. Actually, Lindsey has talked about he and Chris developing musically on parallel lines more than once.

He said: She and I have a real valid kind of rapport between us, something that was there before we even met. It's like she can play the piano and I can play the guitar just wonderfully along with her. It's almost like parallel lines during our formative years of music until we met, and it gave us a lot of common ground."

So, when he said parallel lines in LRD, that's what I thought of.

But yes, I think of Stevie when I hear black angel can't stand to be alone.

Michele

[michelej1]

The imagery he uses is so consistent with hers it is spooky. When he used "black angel" in Love Runs Deeper , I was floored. It is so "Steviesque".

My favorite is when she says, "you've shaken my faith in everything else" and in CAD he says, "Magic one, all our dreams are done. I have no faith today."

Basically, to me the lyric says, it looks like we've hit the end of the line, because this baby deserves a full time father and to grow up in the type of family I had. So, I have no faith today. That is, I have no hope for our love any more.

Michele

[Autumn]

I may be speaking too soon, but I can not get over how cute LB and Stevie look together on this tour. There's something sweeter in the way they are with each other, especially Lindsey, that I don't think I really noticed before. In fact, I'm pretty sure I felt that SYW was more staged and prepared whereas now it seems a lot more genuine. And I can't lie, I'm no shipper, but they are the cutest older couple, if it were only true. They just...match. One of my girlfriends was over and I showed her a few pics, since she's seeing them in concert with me, and she thought they were a couple.

:nod: Exactly. Stevie and Lindsey have something very special and very real. I love them together.

My introduction to the BN era was The Dance DVD. I was blown away by Stevie and Lindsey's chemistry. Like your friend, I definitely thought they were a couple.

[Musicman408]

Well I for one would love a few more summer dates. There is one show my family is thinking about going to- but it's still up in the air- we're very much waiting last minute!

I would also very much love a new Mac album- any kind of album with new material. 'twould be Great!!!

[Kelly]

I don't think she has. Actually, Lindsey has talked about he and Chris developing musically on parallel lines more than once.

He said:

So, when he said parallel lines in LRD, that's what I thought of.

But yes, I think of Stevie when I hear black angel can't stand to be alone.

Michele

Stevie has more than once. I searched quickly and found one, but not the one I was looking for. From US Magazine, 2003

"it strange sharing the stage with your ex, Lindsey Buckingham? Sometimes he takes me back to 1971-he's still thin and pretty gorgeous. Often, I think we live in a parallel universe, where we're not sure if it is 1973 or 2003.

[michelej1]

Stevie has more than once. I searched quickly and found one, but not the one I was looking for. From US Magazine, 2003

"it strange sharing the stage with your ex, Lindsey Buckingham? Sometimes he takes me back to 1971-he's still thin and pretty gorgeous. Often, I think we live in a parallel universe, where we're not sure if it is 1973 or 2003.

Oh yes and she used parallel universe in Destiny Rules too, I just meant she has not described her and Lindsey as being parallel lines.

Michele

[Kelly]

Oh yes and she used parallel universe in Destiny Rules too, I just meant she has not described her and Lindsey as being parallel lines.

Michele


Oh, that is true. Not parallel lines. My bad.

[CADreaming]

The 'parallel lines' made me think of LB's Soundstage when Stevie sang that piece of "Frozen Love". He sort of drew parallel lines out with his finger and thumb, telling her: "Those were some great two part harmony parts that we did."

In music, there is a term called: "parallel harmony", described as " harmony lines that go in the same direction as the melody"...

That's what that line made me think of.

[michelej1]

The 'parallel lines' made me think of LB's Soundstage when Stevie sang that piece of "Frozen Love". He sort of drew parallel lines out with his finger and thumb, telling her: "Those were some great two part harmony parts that we did."

In music, there is a term called: "parallel harmony", described as " harmony lines that go in the same direction as the melody"...

That's what that line made me think of.

I think of two people taking different paths and directions and still always arriving at the same place. It's like you separate yourselves or life separates you, but destiny keeps you joined and even when you're apart, maybe you're feeling the same thing and still sharing the same bond.

The Treason lyrics are so beautiful because they are searching for each other. He's walking around garden walls (RTTG?) searching for the other person and that person is in the ocean searching for him. Apart, but concerted action. The "full of grace" reminded me of EOTW.

Michele

[CADreaming]

I think of two people taking different paths and directions and still always arriving at the same place. It's like you separate yourselves or life separates you, but destiny keeps you joined and even when you're apart, maybe you're feeling the same thing and still sharing the same bond.

The Treason lyrics are so beautiful because they are searching for each other. He's walking around garden walls (RTTG?) searching for the other person and that person is in the ocean searching for him. Apart, but concerted action. The "full of grace" reminded me of EOTW.

Michele

That's true, I thought of that perspective too about the parallel lines...

I love the Treason lyrics - "deep down in the ocean" made me think of "drowning in the sea of love". Also, he mentions grace here, "saw your face, full of grace searching for me".

It's beautiful.

[michelej1]

I love the Treason lyrics - "deep down in the ocean" made me think of "drowning in the sea of love".

Yes, and in CAD he came right out and said, "it would do no good to drown in the sea."


Michele

[Kelly]

I think of two people taking different paths and directions and still always arriving at the same place. It's like you separate yourselves or life separates you, but destiny keeps you joined and even when you're apart, maybe you're feeling the same thing and still sharing the same bond.

The Treason lyrics are so beautiful because they are searching for each other. He's walking around garden walls (RTTG?) searching for the other person and that person is in the ocean searching for him. Apart, but concerted action. The "full of grace" reminded me of EOTW.

Michele


The wall references alway reminds me if his Souldrifter video. His videos are pure genius.

[David]

Do these guys still have unfinished business? I hope they finish it some day.

[michelej1]

Do these guys still have unfinished business? I hope they finish it some day.

Unless they're immortal, it will get finished one way or another.

Michele

[iamnotafraid]

Unless they're immortal, it will get finished one way or another.

Michele

What if they're highlanders?

[StreetAngel86]

He does that ALL THE TIME!

phew. i thought i was imaging stuff :D


The imagery he uses is so consistent with hers it is spooky. When he used "black angel" in Love Runs Deeper , I was floored. It is so "Steviesque".

i LOVE Love Runs Deeper
i listen to it equally to DYMM
and as soon as i heard the Black Angel reference i was like MAMA :nod:
black witch/street angel kinda imagery

he has a lot of water/ocean references too
i love that

do u think it's on purpose
you know, like he replies to her song thru his songs?
or coz he's not really a song writer, and stevie's writing has rubbed off on him
as he has taught her musical things?

[StreetAngel86]

Stevie has more than once. I searched quickly and found one, but not the one I was looking for. From US Magazine, 2003

"it strange sharing the stage with your ex, Lindsey Buckingham? Sometimes he takes me back to 1971-he's still thin and pretty gorgeous. Often, I think we live in a parallel universe, where we're not sure if it is 1973 or 2003.

totally random
but that quote is one of my faves
HOW can she be confused :rolleyes:

the parallel lines line
i always took to mean, both of them were always going on a journey together; tour wise, musically, whatever...like train tracks. but that end point, happiness, marriage, perfect harmony with one another in/out of a relationship - the station - was/is never going to happen

or maybe it's just Mama's overwhelming stage presence and Lindsey in the background being a crazy genius :D

[WelshWitchPMD]

Lindsey even signs autographs "much love" like SN does. LOL

[michelej1]

Lindsey even signs autographs "much love" like SN does. LOL

Does he? That seems strange. He doesn't seem like a "much love" type of guy.

Michele

[StreetAngel86]

Lindsey even signs autographs "much love" like SN does. LOL

has he taken to drawing winged hearts as well?

:lol:

[michelej1]

And it's nice in Mirror, Mirror where she says: "you walk a thin line." I take that as a response.

Michele

[StreetAngel86]

And it's nice in Mirror, Mirror where she says: "you walk a thin line." I take that as a response.

Michele


i love from HSML esp live from RAL

'well YOU GO...YOUR WAY'

:D

[michelej1]

i love from HSML esp live from RAL

'well YOU GO...YOUR WAY'

:D

Yeah, I love that too and in the rehearsal on Crystal Visions, it was almost like I could imagine hearing a "go your OWN way" in there. But I suppose it was just fancy, because she drew out the word "your."

Michele

[David]

i love from HSML esp live from RALI liked it better on the WH tour because she wasn't so hoarse.

[StreetAngel86]

I liked it better on the WH tour because she wasn't so hoarse.


the delivery not important
it's the lyrical exchange :wavey:

[but i like the hoarsey. . . :thumbsup: i guess that swayed me but any version of the song really]