Question about security at concerts

[kak125]

Hey I got a question for you guys, at the shows you have been to in the past how many rows do they let up to the stage? I was at the Toronto Say You Will Show and they only let up the first row but I think that was because all the seats were connected together the whole way across the sections. At Camden they let up the first 5 rows. I just snagged 2nd row on TM for the Pittsburgh show and am hoping I can get to the front since they are on the end.

[gretchen]

Hey I got a question for you guys, at the shows you have been to in the past how many rows do they let up to the stage? I was at the Toronto Say You Will Show and they only let up the first row but I think that was because all the seats were connected together the whole way across the sections. At Camden they let up the first 5 rows. I just snagged 2nd row on TM for the Pittsburgh show and am hoping I can get to the front since they are on the end.

From my experience, it has been the first 5 rows. Last show I went to (Soux City IA 2004) we were in first row just right of center and they let up first 5 rows.

[kak125]

ooh that would be great. I have never been closer than 2nd row for a FM concert and I would love to be up front for the show. I just really want to play Lindseys guitar for like 2 seconds and I can die a happy person. LOL!

[kak125]

see i am afraid if i start touching him i wont be able to stop and my hubby will want to hurt me afterwards, HA HA! Damm Lindsey for being so hot. Its funny he is almost double my age too.

[wolfontherun]

Hey I got a question for you guys, at the shows you have been to in the past how many rows do they let up to the stage? I was at the Toronto Say You Will Show and they only let up the first row but I think that was because all the seats were connected together the whole way across the sections. At Camden they let up the first 5 rows. I just snagged 2nd row on TM for the Pittsburgh show and am hoping I can get to the front since they are on the end.


I have been in 7th and 10 rows and still got to the stage, it all depends.

[kennation]

Please tell me if it is like a mosh pit deal? With I have someone sweating, sneezing, or crying in my ear... PLEASE tell me that I will not have to throw elbows at the concert... We paid huge money for this and i don't want to have to fight to have MY place... you know?

[kak125]

If you are in the front row you wont have to really fight for your place up near the stage but it does get kinda packed up there. Its not like a mosh pit cuz most of the people are older and I hope more mature but I was at a Stevie concert back in 1998 where we were up front and some guy was being an idiot and he punched somebody and ended up hitting into me but when you are that close its kinda hard to not get smacked around a bit.

[wolfontherun]

Please tell me if it is like a mosh pit deal? With I have someone sweating, sneezing, or crying in my ear... PLEASE tell me that I will not have to throw elbows at the concert... We paid huge money for this and i don't want to have to fight to have MY place... you know?


It can get a bit pushy with a lot of elbowing. Just make sure to plant both feet and stand your ground so as not to get pushed too much. Most are pretty cool but you get the occasional drunk douche bag up there.


My first time up at the stage there were 2 couples who had front row center, they def won them or were given the tickets by a company or something, they were not FM or Stevie fans. The guys were very obnoxious and put the noxious in that word, oh and the OB too.

Anyway as I was trying to get to the stage one guy shoved me away and then acted like he owned that entire area. Real jerk he was. But that situation was the exception and not the rule. Good luck and hope you get to shake her hand.

[kak125]

ha that kinda reminds me of when we saw the mac in toronto. There was this family of at least 5 that had front row and from the way they were dressed they were real rich but also obnoxious as well. They thought they owned the place. There came a point during the concert where Lindsey was signing some stuff so my hubby was like just jump over the seats to get his signature. So I hurdled the first row since we were in second and ran up there to get his autograph on my ticket. On my way back the older lady that was in the front row with that family pushed me and yelled at me and I was like woah what did I do to you? I guess she was mad that she didnt get an autograph or something but its not like they even tried or that I did anything wrong. People can be so annoying!

[LukeA]

Pardon me if this sounds out of turn, but if I was in the 6th row or something for a concert, I would respect the people in the front row and give them their space. In most cases, they have paid a lot of money for the privilege, and there's just something unbecoming of invading a fellow fan's personal space.

[kak125]

I agree with you in that I wouldnt invade somebody's space if they had front row and I didnt. Since I will be second row I will try to get up front but I wont get in the way of the people that have front row ya know? I would stand behind them since there is plenty of room up there for a decent amount of people. I had front row for Stevie at Cuyahoga Falls at least 3 years ago or more now and everybody was very nice at the front of the stage and not being pushy at all but usually when it gets near the end of the show security doesnt care what is going on and that is usually when people can get a little crazy.
I love having front row seats but I am not really gonna pay more than face value for it these days even if I had the cash. With ticketmaster constantly releasing good seats there is no reason to pay all that money.
As far as the Toronto show goes I got my autograph and went right back to my seat so I was at the front for less than a minute, it all went down so fast. For that lady to be so mean was just so strange to me.

[iamnotafraid]

there's just something unbecoming of invading a fellow fan's personal space.

Unless it's your first and only chance at getting close to the MAC!

kak125, where there's a will there's a way.
Hope you make it to the front.

[kennation]

Unless it's your first and only chance at getting close to the MAC!

kak125, where there's a will there's a way.
Hope you make it to the front.

Is it standard practice for all theatres? This would bite HARDCORE! If I get a front row seat there is no way, after spending this much money someone is gonna elbow me all night. Or me not have a good time because of someone's B.O. Or having to stand my ground. This upsets me. I am slowly loosing heart with this situation.

And how does that work? Do people get ushered up rows? Or are the seats taken away? Will we have to stand the entire time? I have questions and I am freaking out a little bit... PLEASE HELP! LOL :laugh:

[kak125]

hey kennation, dont worry about all the questions. Its really not as bad as it may sound. The way it works is that security usually lets us so many rows to the front per show. I usually ask ahead of time instead of trying to get up there and get turned away. So you wont lose your seat or anything that wont be a problem. Its the area in front of the stage that people will be trying to get. So if you dont want to be smack next to the stage then you can stand near your seat for the concert. Some people want to be real close and others want to stay near their seats. Security doesnt usher anybody up front, people just make it up there and if it gets too crowded they usually check to make sure you are within the first couple of rows. My hubby and I went to Sheryl Crow/John Mayer a few years back at the PG Pavilion and we had 2nd row on the end of the row and it turned out that nobody in the front row went up front so they let us right up there. The show was a blast and since we were on the end we werent blocking anybodys view.
Dont worry you are going to have a blast and such a memorable night. You will be set!

[kak125]

hey iamnotafraid, yeah i think i should be able to get up there pretty easily. We are floor 1 row b seats 1 and 2 which is way over to the right so that corner should be empty at the front of the stage or at least I hope it will be. I like to be on Lindsey's side so I can watch him all evening ;)

[Regina]

Is it standard practice for all theatres? This would bite HARDCORE! If I get a front row seat there is no way, after spending this much money someone is gonna elbow me all night. Or me not have a good time because of someone's B.O. Or having to stand my ground. This upsets me. I am slowly loosing heart with this situation.

And how does that work? Do people get ushered up rows? Or are the seats taken away? Will we have to stand the entire time? I have questions and I am freaking out a little bit... PLEASE HELP! LOL :laugh:

I've been fortunate enough to always have a seat within the first 11 rows for FM concerts and I have never sat in one of them once FM hit the stage. Doing so would mean not seeing a thing. So, wear comfy shoes.

I actually had good front row experiences where people were, for the most part, respectful. I think the only time things got weird, actually, was when I was not in the front row. I was standing in the aisle, basically for my own protection (VERY drunk guys in front of me) and when one of them kept grabbing my hands because I wasn't "clapping right," this woman in front just sort of ushered me right next to her by the stage. That was very sweet.

I will say, though, be prepared for company up there. And, really, if you don't want anyone in front of you, sort of claim the stage in front of your seats really early because if it's anything like SYW, there will be folks who will slip right in front of you, and depending on how tough security is (and some venues are, and some are definitely not), you may have no choice in the matter.

[LukeA]

Unless it's your first and only chance at getting close to the MAC!



Fandom aside, this attitude is obnoxious and rude.

[LukeA]

I will say, though, be prepared for company up there. And, really, if you don't want anyone in front of you, sort of claim the stage in front of your seats really early because if it's anything like SYW, there will be folks who will slip right in front of you, and depending on how tough security is (and some venues are, and some are definitely not), you may have no choice in the matter.

We had front row center tickets for Columbus, Moline, and Madison on the SYW tour. The ex and I (for at least Columbus & Moline) talked to the security guards/staff around the stage before the show to tell them what was going to happen (stage rush, etc.), which helped keep most of the riff raff away. One drunk girl finagled her way up front and shoved me at Columbus (during GYOW), and as a result, the security guard took care of her right away. She came back during the solo of World Turning, and this time the security escorted her out of the building, where she belonged.

Folks, this is NOT A GA (General Admission) concert! Get a grip, and have some respect for your fellow Fleetwood Mac fans by enjoying the show from your seat area. With sales as poor they are, its not like its going to be difficult to get a decent seat for this tour.

[kak125]

I would never take somebody's spot or anything but there is plenty of room up there by the stage. If people want to stand behind you up close they should be able to as long as everybody is polite and not rude. Its the drunk idiots that ruin it for everybody. I got front row tonight so I wont have to worry about getting up there now, WOOT!

[LukeA]

I got front row tonight so I wont have to worry about getting up there now, WOOT!

Awesome!! You'll have a blast!

[kak125]

thanks i am so excited i cant sleep! I really hope my other tickets sell though. The ticketmaster ticket exchange is so annoying. Just to get what you paid for them you have to sell them for $50 more from the fees they take from you and then they add another $90 on top of that for their fees. That is crap.

[LukeA]

thanks i am so excited i cant sleep! I really hope my other tickets sell though. The ticketmaster ticket exchange is so annoying. Just to get what you paid for them you have to sell them for $50 more from the fees they take from you and then they add another $90 on top of that for their fees. That is crap.

What?? I never had those problems when I sold my Phoenix Suns playoff tickets through TicketExchange a couple years back... just nominal fees.

[ThunderHappens]

Whoa. Am I understanding this correctly? The first few rows are allowed to stand up against the stage? Like within feet of the group?

Is this a regular occurrance at FM shows? Do most venues allow it? Does Stevie (or any of the others) shake hands similar to the "Edge Walk"?

This is my first MAC show, and I shelled out for good seats. If I am able to stand at the stage I will be positively ecstatic!

Please enlighten me, o experienced MAC fans! :D

[michelej1]

What?? I never had those problems when I sold my Phoenix Suns playoff tickets through TicketExchange a couple years back... just nominal fees.

Well, when I did it at the Marketplace, they deducted $33.

Michele

[LukeA]

Well, when I did it at the Marketplace, they deducted $33.

Michele

I just checked my records... I was charged $51 in fees when selling ~$550 worth of tickets. So, I guess it makes sense... I just remember it being less.

Oh well, you get what you pay for (a secure transaction and guaranteed tickets for the buyer)

[DavidMn]

I know there's another thread about this, but I'm still stunned here. I posted in the other thread about just getting front row for Pittsburgh and now I need to know how are they with camera's there? are they strict? do they let you take pics? INFO PLEASE!:nod:

[iamnotafraid]

Fandom aside, this attitude is obnoxious and rude.

My comment about getting to the stage wasn't a license for "obnoxious and rude" behaviour. Except for accidentally stepping on someone's foot I've never behaved rudely at any concert.

There are many ways to get to the front of the stage. Of course it helps if you start out with good seats. Some venues have got smart and starting at about the fifth row (or so) there are no aisles. That stops most people, but not the brave, daring and determinated Mac fan.

Without the details, BEER, yes beer helped me get to the front of the stage at one of the shows I attended. No I wasn't drinking it, nor did I throw it (that would be the obnoxious and rude behaviour LukeA was talking about). I can't reveal the rest of the story because I might do it again. And if all you Ledgies use it, there won't be any room left at the stage for me.

One last thing, besides will and determination it helps if you're bigger than most. At the very least it helps you hold on to your spot.

DavidMN is the one who should reveal his stage secrets.

[Regina]

Whoa. Am I understanding this correctly? The first few rows are allowed to stand up against the stage? Like within feet of the group?

Is this a regular occurrance at FM shows? Do most venues allow it? Does Stevie (or any of the others) shake hands similar to the "Edge Walk"?

This is my first MAC show, and I shelled out for good seats. If I am able to stand at the stage I will be positively ecstatic!

Please enlighten me, o experienced MAC fans! :D

They did during SYW. I think it was kind of tentative for the first month of shows, and then it was more or less expected and encouraged.

But, again, I agree with Luke on this. It's not GA. If they allow first 3-5 rows up there, don't run up from your 32nd row seat. People, in general, are very nice up there if you are very nice. So, even if you're a large person, don't plant yourself there like you're saving spots for 6 (*and for pity's sake, don't attempt to smuggle ALL your friends up there--which I definitely saw in a Stevie concert, during the Edge walk, where I actually moved back FROM the stage to behind second row because it was the one and only time I thought things were truly getting dangerous up there. And that was me having legitimate front row seats, seeing some guy run over from Lord knows where and then gesture to/move his pushy/rude/obnxious gal pals up to slide between the three inches between my body and his. I moved away. I had done the Edge walk thing before and let them have their moment, even if they were jerks).

It's fun and exciting. You walk away slightly deaf in one or both ears from the speakers being right there. You feel the music pounding through your body. And you see every wad of spit coming out of Mick Fleetwood's mouth during World Turning. And if that's not incentive enough for you...

[michelej1]

For the SYW tour, I think they gave instructions to security to let the first 3 rows up. That's what I would hear some of the guards say to people who asked before the show. I would say the only place this didn't happen where I attended was the first night of Chumash.

Michele

[DavidMn]

For the SYW tour, I think they gave instructions to security to let the first 3 rows up. That's what I would hear some of the guards say to people who asked before the show. I would say the only place this didn't happen where I attended was the first night of Chumash.

MicheleI will be interested to see if they do that for this tour. I do remember on Lindsey's last solo tour last fall he wasnt leeting the crowd play his guitar during GYOW as much. I dont know if thats a sign for this tour or not, we'el have to see.

[skcin]

Without the details, BEER, yes beer helped me get to the front of the stage at one of the shows I attended. No I wasn't drinking it, nor did I throw it (that would be the obnoxious and rude behaviour LukeA was talking about). I can't reveal the rest of the story because I might do it again. And if all you Ledgies use it, there won't be any room left at the stage for me.


So you bought the security guys a beer, huh? Maybe the road crew? :cool:

They allowed the first 3 - 5 rows up to the front of the stage for MOST SYW shows, but it depended on the venue. The Indian casino didn't allow it. Hershey PA only let 2 or 3 rows up, but the stage was so friggin' high you couldn't see them if you were that close anyway. Toronto was odd, because Theresa said they weren't really stopping people, but nobody was really trying to go up there. I did try from the 9th row & they sent me back (I just walked up the aisle & they asked me to go back, so I did.) However, later in the show several people from rows way behind me were allowed up, so I was a bit annoyed.

I have been in both positions - a few rows back & wanting to be closer, and being in the front row & not wanting my space invaded. Here's how I feel about getting up front - if you don't have a front row seat, it's cool to try & get closer IF there's enough room up front & you're not going to get in anyone's way and IF you can easily make it up there.

But nobody should think they're entitled to be up there unless they actually have a front row seat - all 500 people on the floor, even those 29 rows back, paid the same amount that you did for their tix & there's not enough room for everyone up there. If you chose to pay extra for a package & get 8th row, sorry but that's life.

Be cool about it, be polite. Please don't push or shove, please don't spill **** on people or kick them in the head while leaping over rows of seats. People who have front row tix deserve to be IN FRONT, so I don't think it's cool to squeeze yourself in around them. If you are asked to go back to your seat by security, just GO. Don't argue, don't be a dick, it will do you no good.

If you do have a front row seat & someone is in your way or being a dick, tell security. Sorry, but that's how I feel. If someone comes up front & they're cool, polite, keeping to themselves, I'm not bothered. If they are dancing around screaming in my ear & elbowing me with their smooth moves, that's not cool - get the f*ck away from me.

[kennation]

So you bought the security guys a beer, huh? Maybe the road crew? :cool:

They allowed the first 3 - 5 rows up to the front of the stage for MOST SYW shows, but it depended on the venue. The Indian casino didn't allow it. Hershey PA only let 2 or 3 rows up, but the stage was so friggin' high you couldn't see them if you were that close anyway. Toronto was odd, because Theresa said they weren't really stopping people, but nobody was really trying to go up there. I did try from the 9th row & they sent me back (I just walked up the aisle & they asked me to go back, so I did.) However, later in the show several people from rows way behind me were allowed up, so I was a bit annoyed.

I have been in both positions - a few rows back & wanting to be closer, and being in the front row & not wanting my space invaded. Here's how I feel about getting up front - if you don't have a front row seat, it's cool to try & get closer IF there's enough room up front & you're not going to get in anyone's way and IF you can easily make it up there.

But nobody should think they're entitled to be up there unless they actually have a front row seat - all 500 people on the floor, even those 29 rows back, paid the same amount that you did for their tix & there's not enough room for everyone up there. If you chose to pay extra for a package & get 8th row, sorry but that's life.

Be cool about it, be polite. Please don't push or shove, please don't spill **** on people or kick them in the head while leaping over rows of seats. People who have front row tix deserve to be IN FRONT, so I don't think it's cool to squeeze yourself in around them. If you are asked to go back to your seat by security, just GO. Don't argue, don't be a dick, it will do you no good.

If you do have a front row seat & someone is in your way or being a dick, tell security. Sorry, but that's how I feel. If someone comes up front & they're cool, polite, keeping to themselves, I'm not bothered. If they are dancing around screaming in my ear & elbowing me with their smooth moves, that's not cool - get the f*ck away from me.

FOR REAL! I am gonna talk to Security before, and during the show. No one is going to be in my space. I am not down with that. I almost want to call up the venue and ask. Or at leasts prepare myself if that's business usual. We didn't pay that much money to have to fight all night, forget it! That just does not fly with me. :sorry: I will rat you out in a heartbeat. I just have this thing about my space. I don't know why, I just do.

[kennation]

I have calmed down, lol... I spoke to one of the online reps for our venue and they said that NO ONE is allowed further than their row except front row. They are allowed to stand and come to the stage, but that anyone pushing and trying to get upfront will be removed immediately. So, I guess they only allow front row up, but that security will stand up front to make sure no one gets moved, or pushed around. She said, "Now worries..." So, I am glad I can maintain my space. LOL I was once in a pit and I haven't been the same since. :laugh: Please don't think I am being silly, or snobby... I just can't stand to have someone that close to me screaming, and carrying on. P.S. I am only 25. Just imagine how fun I will be in ten years... LOL

[BTFLCHLD]

I just can't stand to have someone that close to me screaming, and carrying on. Have you seen FM before? I would be curious to see/know your reaction once you are amidst all that magic. Something tells me you will not be aware of the space around you nor concerned about who/what is filling it. have fun. ;)

That aside, every venue/security policy is different. I have yet to see a crazed stagegush at FM...that doesn't mean there hasn't been one or won't be one...but for the most part, unless you are a complete ASS, everyone works well together. Personally, I don't dig when peeps from further than perhaps third/forth come up the aisles and squeeze their way in. I have been lucky enough to have been close the majority of the time, but when I have had rafter or anything in between, I am respectful of those who have obtained prime seats, chillin' and enjoyin' the music/show...I do rather like a clear view as opposed to bobbleheads...mosttimes it's best to just enjoy the music while you can...not get caught up in the hype 'I must be near my GOD/GODDESS'. As well, if someone asks you to step aside as they 'paid for that location', don't put up a fight...just move on. :shrug:

[kennation]

Have you seen FM before? I would be curious to see/know your reaction once you are amidst all that magic. Something tells me you will not be aware of the space around you nor concerned about who/what is filling it. have fun. ;)

That aside, every venue/security policy is different. I have yet to see a crazed stagegush at FM...that doesn't mean there hasn't been one or won't be one...but for the most part, unless you are a complete ASS, everyone works well together. Personally, I don't dig when peeps from further than perhaps third/forth come up the aisles and squeeze their way in. I have been lucky enough to have been close the majority of the time, but when I have had rafter or anything in between, I am respectful of those who have obtained prime seats, chillin' and enjoyin' the music/show...I do rather like a clear view as opposed to bobbleheads...mosttimes it's best to just enjoy the music while you can...not get caught up in the hype 'I must be near my GOD/GODDESS'. As well, if someone asks you to step aside as they 'paid for that location', don't put up a fight...just move on. :shrug:


I have seen them before, just never this close and I want it to be perfect. I do get lost in the magic. No matter how many times I have seen Stevie, or the MAC, I just get lost in it all. I love watching the dvds... I find my feet stomping and my head crazy with excitement, and it's only on television. LOL I said to my friend, "I get to meet Mick. I don't care where my seat is! After that, I will just want to chill and watch my band, one more time." (It's like drugs, I will only do one, and it will be the last time, lol!) I hope that I will be close, and have a good time.

[goldustsongbird]

FOR REAL! I am gonna talk to Security before, and during the show. No one is going to be in my space. I am not down with that. I almost want to call up the venue and ask. Or at leasts prepare myself if that's business usual. We didn't pay that much money to have to fight all night, forget it! That just does not fly with me. :sorry: I will rat you out in a heartbeat. I just have this thing about my space. I don't know why, I just do.

You should ask to be upgraded to a glassed-in VIP box.

[TheScoop]

FOR REAL! I am gonna talk to Security before, and during the show. No one is going to be in my space. I am not down with that. I almost want to call up the venue and ask. Or at leasts prepare myself if that's business usual. We didn't pay that much money to have to fight all night, forget it! That just does not fly with me. :sorry: I will rat you out in a heartbeat. I just have this thing about my space. I don't know why, I just do.

Sounds like a personal issue. Anyway, calling the venue and/or speaking to security is probably not going to help you. I highly doubt anyone is going to protect you from the big bad Fleetwood Mac fans who are about to viciously violate your personal space :rolleyes: Just relax yourself, have a glass of wine before hand, and try to have fun instead of spending your evening hounding security and trying to ruin the enjoyment of other fans.

[iamnotafraid]

Just relax yourself, have a glass of wine before hand, and try to have fun instead of spending your evening hounding security and trying to ruin the enjoyment of other fans.

I agree.
Kennation just relax, enjoy the show.

Security will tell you things that aren't
always true. So you really won't know
what it's going to be like until you get
to the show.

If you're worried about security and your
space, just watch an AC/DC concert on
DVD. After that you'll feel safe at the
Fleetwood Mac concert.

[steviefan99]

Pardon me if this sounds out of turn, but if I was in the 6th row or something for a concert, I would respect the people in the front row and give them their space. In most cases, they have paid a lot of money for the privilege, and there's just something unbecoming of invading a fellow fan's personal space.


AGREE!!!!!!! I Paid good hard earned money for my first ever front row seat . I will get crazy with whoever tries to take my spot. :sorry: But if you want a front row seat then pay for it.

[kennation]

You should ask to be upgraded to a glassed-in VIP box.

for 1600 bucks... ILAA had better provide me with some windex so that I can keep my glass VIP box clean... Wink Wink ;p goldustsongbird

[wolfontherun]

"If you do have a front row seat & someone is in your way or being a dick, tell security. Sorry, but that's how I feel. If someone comes up front & they're cool, polite, keeping to themselves, I'm not bothered. If they are dancing around screaming in my ear & elbowing me with their smooth moves, that's not cool - get the f*ck away from me."

I agree but this has happened to me at concerts when i was in row 70 as well. There are always going to be obnoxious people at concerts, no way around it.

[wolfontherun]

AGREE!!!!!!! I Paid good hard earned money for my first ever front row seat . I will get crazy with whoever tries to take my spot. :sorry: But if you want a front row seat then pay for it.

Your spot is the SEAT you paid for. I doubt anyone will try to take your seat from you.

[animal]

A video showing some tips & tricks regarding concert security. :lol::lol:

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[BTFLCHLD]

I have seen them before, just never this close and I want it to be perfect. I do get lost in the magic. No matter how many times I have seen Stevie, or the MAC, I just get lost in it all. I love watching the dvds... I find my feet stomping and my head crazy with excitement, and it's only on television. um...you're not attending any cali shows, are you? <img src="http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/BTFLCHLD/YAHOO/yikes.gif">

[LukeA]

Your spot is the SEAT you paid for. I doubt anyone will try to take your seat from you.

Its the area directly in front of your seat too.

[wolfontherun]

Its the area directly in front of your seat too.

Well that is pretty much a given. The rest of the area is open space. There is plenty of space at the foot of the stage for both front row people as well as those in rows further back.

Hell anyone that can get to the stage is welcome as far as i am concerned.

For me it is kinda like a communal experience being with other FM/Stevie fans at the stage. The first time I shook her hand this women next to me was almost as happy as I was, gave me a big smile and a big high five!

You will have obnoxious people in every section of the venue, it is a rock concert after all.

[Zombie]

Its the area directly in front of your seat too.

What about the air about 2 feet above my seat? Cos if my elation makes me spontaneously levitate, I don't want to be pissing anyone off for being in space I didn't pay for, like.

;)

On a more serious note, successfully moseying up front when you aren't technically supposed to be there is all about attitude. Be polite, don't argue with security if they tell you to go away, and don't get in anyone else's way.

Stay away from the front row people that have enormous chips on their shoulders - they will go batty and attract attention from security that you don't want. Those people are easy to spot out - while they've generally got a sour look on their faces and patently do not look happy to be there, they'll be damned if anyone else is going to have a good time in their general direction, either.

On several occasions, I've been able to amble my happy ass right on into the actual security pits at various shows without anyone giving me a hard time.

As for drunk and obnoxious fellow concertgoers, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I have encountered more of these types at the Stevie shows I've been to than any other concert in my life - hell, the pit at the GWAR show I recently attended was like the concert equivalent of everyone holding hands and singing "Kumbaya" compared to the behavior I was subjected to at Stevie's show in Reading last year. Lawdy, lawdy.

[trackaghost]

You should ask to be upgraded to a glassed-in VIP box.

:laugh:

I think it entirely depends on the situation.
I remember at one Mac show where they let the first few rows up there were a few people behind me who had sneaked up from Row Q, but what did it matter? We were all standing anyway, they were pretty respectful and they were simply enjoying themselves. I didn't shout for security and demand for them to be sent back.
At another Mac show one (young) couple in front row moaned that they wanted to sit and everyone was standing and it was partially blocking their view (although no one was directly in front of them). If EVERYBODY is standing, it seems silly to insist that you have the right to sit. In contrast at an acoustic Neil Young show I attended absolutely everyone was sitting and one bloke decided he wanted to stand blocking the view for a lot of people and practically causing a fight. Again, I think, that guy should have respected the majority and gone with the flow. It makes a much more enjoyable and happy gig for everyone.

[iamnotafraid]

So you bought the security guys a beer, huh? Maybe the road crew? :cool:

My beer secret worked to perfection (again I'm not a drinker myself).


I understand all of you who want their space. Most of you spent big
money to get those seats. But there are ways to get to the front that
aren't disrespectful to others. Most of the shows I've been to, I've had
very good seats. So it hasn't been hard to walk right up to the stage.
But that being said, as long as people aren't pushing each other down,
etc..etc... I don't see what the big problem is, especially towards the
end of the show.

I was lucky enough to have seen Elvis Presley when I was a young child.
Three times actually. And even though we had good seats at two of the
shows, I didn't make it to the stage. Mostly because of my age. But still,
I've always regretted not getting to the stage to shake his hand.

So I say to all that can....GET TO THE STAGE, IT MIGHT BE YOUR ONLY
CHANCE!!!!! (don't hurt anyone though!).

[kennation]

Here we go... In my opinion, lol... Everyone has their place. You are given an area based on when you bought you're ticket, or how much you spent... That said, front row ticket holders reserve the right to stand, sit, and moan in the front. (With the right to set down any time they want.) What if my mom came? What if my grandmom came? These are people who enjoy music. These are people that love Fleetwood Mac, but these are NOT people who are sturdy enough to "plant their feet," or "stand their ground." These are people who can barely stand for more than 30 minutes. Should they be pushed around all night? Should they have to struggle to see when they spent HUGE amounts of money to sit where they are setting? NO. That simple. These are rules that we learned in grade school. Stand in a line. Do not push. Do not shove. To the point: we have rows and seat numbers for a reason. Sorry, but that is the ultimate truth. "Trying to get upfront," no matter what is an art, but honestly, so few do it respectfully. So... please don't invade my space. I will have a great time next to anyone, but I will not tolerate having to watch myself all night for fear of having my area invaded. Not going to happen. I would rather focus my energy on Stevie's mic stand ribbons, lol. I hope that I will not have to worry about it, like the rep from our venue said. Infact, I plan to talk to security when I get there to see what that plan is all about.

Side Note: I was in detroit when that woman stage jumped. (Not the same thing, but still... it's about concert etiquette.) The mood changed, it became fear that something more could happen. What if that chick wasn't just excited, but rather wanted to hurt Stevie? That kind of fan mania is unacceptable. So IMO, no stage rushing, and no stage jumping. Everyone file into their areas and be kind to one another. That's all I am saying.

[Regina]

This allowing people to the stage thing is FM's policy. I remember being in Hershey--and I was in the second row, side section. Well, this concert was held in this outdoor venue and the side section was NOTHING like the seating chart would have you believe. I was so far away, I could literally only see Brett Tuggle and a bit of Stevie and Lindsey (kind of looked like ants). After a few minutes, I saw Lindsey step over to a security guy, and all of a sudden, he walked to our section and told the first three rows to go up to the stage.
Before that, I think only front row was up there (the venue still kind of sucked because the stage was really high. I don't think I ever saw Mick or John through the whole concert--well, maybe when they were taking their bows and during the World Turning thing).

As for the sitting thing, it's just not going to happen. I've been trying to drag my mom to a concert for years, but she won't go for just that reason. She doesn't want to be a 'wet blanket" and sit while everyone is standing, and she can't stand for nearly 3 hours. But, on the other hand, I have a friend who doesn't like standing either and she never even attempts to get floor seats. Elsewhere, she can sit comfortably. On the floor--especially close to the stage, you can't--because you can't even see the monitors. And if one or two people want to sit, you know--on a practical level--no one is going to listen to them. And security won't enforce it.

[skcin]

Here we go... In my opinion, lol... Everyone has their place. You are given an area based on when you bought you're ticket, or how much you spent... That said, front row ticket holders reserve the right to stand, sit, and moan in the front. (With the right to set down any time they want.) What if my mom came? What if my grandmom came? These are people who enjoy music. These are people that love Fleetwood Mac, but these are NOT people who are sturdy enough to "plant their feet," or "stand their ground." These are people who can barely stand for more than 30 minutes. Should they be pushed around all night? Should they have to struggle to see when they spent HUGE amounts of money to sit where they are setting? NO. That simple. These are rules that we learned in grade school. Stand in a line. Do not push. Do not shove. To the point: we have rows and seat numbers for a reason. Sorry, but that is the ultimate truth. "Trying to get upfront," no matter what is an art, but honestly, so few do it respectfully. So... please don't invade my space. I will have a great time next to anyone, but I will not tolerate having to watch myself all night for fear of having my area invaded. Not going to happen. I would rather focus my energy on Stevie's mic stand ribbons, lol. I hope that I will not have to worry about it, like the rep from our venue said. Infact, I plan to talk to security when I get there to see what that plan is all about.

Side Note: I was in detroit when that woman stage jumped. (Not the same thing, but still... it's about concert etiquette.) The mood changed, it became fear that something more could happen. What if that chick wasn't just excited, but rather wanted to hurt Stevie? That kind of fan mania is unacceptable. So IMO, no stage rushing, and no stage jumping. Everyone file into their areas and be kind to one another. That's all I am saying.


So if you don't land front row seats, you're going to try to get up there. But if you do, anyone who didn't had better stay back & keep away from you?

[trackaghost]

As for the sitting thing, it's just not going to happen. I've been trying to drag my mom to a concert for years, but she won't go for just that reason. She doesn't want to be a 'wet blanket" and sit while everyone is standing, and she can't stand for nearly 3 hours. But, on the other hand, I have a friend who doesn't like standing either and she never even attempts to get floor seats. Elsewhere, she can sit comfortably. On the floor--especially close to the stage, you can't--because you can't even see the monitors. And if one or two people want to sit, you know--on a practical level--no one is going to listen to them. And security won't enforce it.


This is key, I think, in a crowd you may well have paid a lot of your seat but if everyone wants to stand then you just have to accept it. No amount of complaining is going to make a couple of hundred people sit down for the few who want to remain seated. Anyone who does want to sit I'd advise strongly against floor seats anyway, you'll have more chance of sitting and keeping your view in the side or balcony seats. At the Neil Diamond concert I went to last year (read: not exactly an audience full of spring chickens, I may have been the youngest person there), EVERYONE sitting in the floor seats stood the moment the Diamond man hit the stage and, aside from a couple of acoustic numbers, remained standing throughout.

[kennation]

So if you don't land front row seats, you're going to try to get up there. But if you do, anyone who didn't had better stay back & keep away from you?

What would make you say that? I didn't say it. Clarify, please lol... I wouldn't try it. I would rather be by my seat that reaching, grabbing, and sweating all over people. I am not down with that. I have before, but realize that it's too much for me. I don't like it.

[TheScoop]

Here we go... In my opinion, lol... Everyone has their place. You are given an area based on when you bought you're ticket, or how much you spent... That said, front row ticket holders reserve the right to stand, sit, and moan in the front. (With the right to set down any time they want.) What if my mom came? What if my grandmom came? These are people who enjoy music. These are people that love Fleetwood Mac, but these are NOT people who are sturdy enough to "plant their feet," or "stand their ground." These are people who can barely stand for more than 30 minutes. Should they be pushed around all night? Should they have to struggle to see when they spent HUGE amounts of money to sit where they are setting? NO. That simple. These are rules that we learned in grade school. Stand in a line. Do not push. Do not shove. To the point: we have rows and seat numbers for a reason. Sorry, but that is the ultimate truth. "Trying to get upfront," no matter what is an art, but honestly, so few do it respectfully. So... please don't invade my space. I will have a great time next to anyone, but I will not tolerate having to watch myself all night for fear of having my area invaded. Not going to happen. I would rather focus my energy on Stevie's mic stand ribbons, lol. I hope that I will not have to worry about it, like the rep from our venue said. Infact, I plan to talk to security when I get there to see what that plan is all about.

Side Note: I was in detroit when that woman stage jumped. (Not the same thing, but still... it's about concert etiquette.) The mood changed, it became fear that something more could happen. What if that chick wasn't just excited, but rather wanted to hurt Stevie? That kind of fan mania is unacceptable. So IMO, no stage rushing, and no stage jumping. Everyone file into their areas and be kind to one another. That's all I am saying.

Please tell me you're not going to be at the Pittsburgh show on Sunday.


What if my mom came? What if my grandmom came? These are people who enjoy music. These are people that love Fleetwood Mac, but these are NOT people who are sturdy enough to "plant their feet," or "stand their ground." These are people who can barely stand for more than 30 minutes.

Then they should be sitting in the mezzanine section where they belong. Sorry if that offends you, but to be honest, this is a rock concert. If you're planning on getting floor seats (especially those near the stage), you're almost expected to stand throughout the show. I'm guessing you're the type of fan that likes to sit in his seat expressionless while Steve is twirling during Stand Back. How fun. But really, most fans that purchase tickets close to the stage like to enjoy themselves and get into it. You know, standing, clapping, dancing - normal stuff.

As far as your simple rules are concerned, they don't really apply at rock and roll concerts. That's not to say that people are going to be rude and trampling all over you the entire night. But you should expect that at some point during the show, another fan is going to "invade your space" and you're just going to have to get over that. Whining to security the whole night is only going to ruin the experience for yourself and the other person (people) involved. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and just deal with it for one night.

[kak125]

Its funny, I get in arguments with people over the whole standing thing all the time. If you plan to sit, then dont buy floor seats cuz everybody on the floor will be standing. I have only been to one show which was Sheryl Crow at Heinz Hall where we werent allowed to stand due to security but then all of us in the pitt got irritated and decided to stand anyway. It's a rock concert and at a rock concert people will always be singing, dancing and just generally rowdy. I wouldnt want it any other way.
If the day ever comes that everybody on the floor is sitting then I wont be going to shows anymore, HA! I always want to take my mother or mother in law to see FM but I dont think they could stand especially up at the front of the stage. If they ever wanted to go, I would buy them seats next to the stage.

[kennation]

Please tell me you're not going to be at the Pittsburgh show on Sunday.



Then they should be sitting in the mezzanine section where they belong. Sorry if that offends you, but to be honest, this is a rock concert. If you're planning on getting floor seats (especially those near the stage), you're almost expected to stand throughout the show. I'm guessing you're the type of fan that likes to sit in his seat expressionless while Steve is twirling during Stand Back. How fun. But really, most fans that purchase tickets close to the stage like to enjoy themselves and get into it. You know, standing, clapping, dancing - normal stuff.

As far as your simple rules are concerned, they don't really apply at rock and roll concerts. That's not to say that people are going to be rude and trampling all over you the entire night. But you should expect that at some point during the show, another fan is going to "invade your space" and you're just going to have to get over that. Whining to security the whole night is only going to ruin the experience for yourself and the other person (people) involved. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and just deal with it for one night.


Here is an idea you send me the money we spent, WHICH IS NO DOUBT more than YOU and you can be in my space all you want, how about that? As for people needing to be put in a special area you should be ashamed. What if someone was in a wheel chair and couldn't see because you were being selfish and could care less. What if someone got hurt becuase you thought the rules didn't apply? Shameful. As long as everyone is having fun and everyone is respectful that's fine. You should deal with the fact that there are rules, so get over it.

[Zombie]

^^^^

Kennation, out of curiosity, do you go to many concerts?

[kennation]

^^^^

Kennation, out of curiosity, do you go to many concerts?

yes! I go to many concerts... Last October... at Madonna... PEOPLE STAYED IN THEIR AREA!!! No one was being rude to anyone else! Alanis Morissette? Everyone stayed in their place- no one got crazy. Of course we all danced and had fun, but no one rushed up to the end of the stage. No one got pushed around. Everyone was respectful of everyone else because they have common sense.That's the difference in chaos and having a good time. It seems as though Ledgies want chaos. I don't do chaos. I have been to concerts ALL MY LIFE... and have NEVER acted the way some of these posts have described. Never.

[Zombie]

yes! I go to many concerts... Last October... at Madonna... PEOPLE STAYED IN THEIR AREA!!! No one was being rude to anyone else! Alanis Morissette? Everyone stayed in their place- no one got crazy. Of course we all danced and had fun, but no one rushed up to the end of the stage. No one got pushed around. Everyone was respectful of everyone else because they have common sense.That's the difference in chaos and having a good time. It seems as though Ledgies want chaos. I don't do chaos. I have been to concerts ALL MY LIFE... and have NEVER acted the way some of these posts have described. Never.

All right, then, I think perhaps it would do good for you to go back and read this thread again with a more critical eye. No one is advocating chaos - it's been said repeatedly that you should be respectful and courteous and not shove.

Also, persons in wheelchairs are not, as a rule, seated on the floor. There are special seating areas for those people. And the entire floor does not have to sit down just because one or two people cannot stand for the whole show. That's why there are different seating levels and seating areas.

No one need get hurt, no one need be disrespectful, but an entire arena floor need not also cater to the whims of one or two individuals.

Calm thyself.

[trackaghost]

yes! I go to many concerts... Last October... at Madonna... PEOPLE STAYED IN THEIR AREA!!! No one was being rude to anyone else! Alanis Morissette? Everyone stayed in their place- no one got crazy. Of course we all danced and had fun, but no one rushed up to the end of the stage. No one got pushed around. Everyone was respectful of everyone else because they have common sense.That's the difference in chaos and having a good time. It seems as though Ledgies want chaos. I don't do chaos. I have been to concerts ALL MY LIFE... and have NEVER acted the way some of these posts have described. Never.


That's only two though.

I think you are blowing it out of proportion. I seriously doubt there is going to be chaos at a Fleetwood Mac show :laugh: Just the band allowing some people to stand at the front of the stage and a few that will sneak up.
Maybe you have the band confused with Napalm Death or something. :laugh:

[kennation]

All right, then, I think perhaps it would do good for you to go back and read this thread again with a more critical eye. No one is advocating chaos - it's been said repeatedly that you should be respectful and courteous and not shove.

Also, persons in wheelchairs are not, as a rule, seated on the floor. There are special seating areas for those people. And the entire floor does not have to sit down just because one or two people cannot stand for the whole show. That's why there are different seating levels and seating areas.

No one need get hurt, no one need be disrespectful, but an entire arena floor need not also cater to the whims of one or two individuals.

Calm thyself.

Ok... Read your own statement... Now think about it... Did I say that everyone needed to set down? No. Did I say that the entire floor should follow the whims of one or two individuals? Nope. People get hurt by this common, general admission mentality. So... maybe you should calm yourself. When people are trying to move up to the edge of the stage and shouldn't be... That is chaos. When people have, "tricks" to sneak upfront... That is CHAOS... So, tell me... What do you call a statement that stated rules don't apply at Rock concerts? Chaos. My statement is that it's not general admission down there and I will make sure that I get MY money's worth. And I will. No worries.

[kennation]

That's only two though.

I think you are blowing it out of proportion. I seriously doubt there is going to be chaos at a Fleetwood Mac show :laugh: Just the band allowing some people to stand at the front of the stage and a few that will sneak up.
Maybe you have the band confused with Napalm Death or something. :laugh:

I have been to more than 5 concerts in the last 6 months and no one behaved like that. I am not blowing anything out of proportion. I am not down with people from rows behind me moving upfront. I am not. If I were in the third row, I would feel the same way. And I am gonna add some smiley faces so that I can be passive-aggressive as well :thumbsup::xoxo::p LOL

[skcin]

This is key, I think, in a crowd you may well have paid a lot of your seat but if everyone wants to stand then you just have to accept it. No amount of complaining is going to make a couple of hundred people sit down for the few who want to remain seated. Anyone who does want to sit I'd advise strongly against floor seats anyway, you'll have more chance of sitting and keeping your view in the side or balcony seats. At the Neil Diamond concert I went to last year (read: not exactly an audience full of spring chickens, I may have been the youngest person there), EVERYONE sitting in the floor seats stood the moment the Diamond man hit the stage and, aside from a couple of acoustic numbers, remained standing throughout.

ITA.

Here is an idea you send me the money we spent, WHICH IS NO DOUBT more than YOU and you can be in my space all you want, how about that? .

Doesn't mean you're entitled to more than other fans, who didn't buy a package but got a better seat.

All right, then, I think perhaps it would do good for you to go back and read this thread again with a more critical eye. No one is advocating chaos - it's been said repeatedly that you should be respectful and courteous and not shove.

No one need get hurt, no one need be disrespectful, but an entire arena floor need not also cater to the whims of one or two individuals.

Calm thyself.

No ****.

Please tell me if it is like a mosh pit deal? With I have someone sweating, sneezing, or crying in my ear... PLEASE tell me that I will not have to throw elbows at the concert... We paid huge money for this and i don't want to have to fight to have MY place... you know?

Is it standard practice for all theatres? This would bite HARDCORE! If I get a front row seat there is no way, after spending this much money someone is gonna elbow me all night. Or me not have a good time because of someone's B.O. Or having to stand my ground. This upsets me. I am slowly loosing heart with this situation.

And how does that work? Do people get ushered up rows? Or are the seats taken away? Will we have to stand the entire time? I have questions and I am freaking out a little bit... PLEASE HELP! LOL :laugh:

FOR REAL! I am gonna talk to Security before, and during the show. No one is going to be in my space. I am not down with that. I almost want to call up the venue and ask. Or at leasts prepare myself if that's business usual. We didn't pay that much money to have to fight all night, forget it! That just does not fly with me. :sorry: I will rat you out in a heartbeat. I just have this thing about my space. I don't know why, I just do.

Dude, seriously. Good luck on the floor. Hopefully you'll be in row 5 or 6 & you won't have to worry abouit anyone invading your space.

[kennation]

Dude, seriously. Good luck on the floor. Hopefully you'll be in row 5 or 6 & you won't have to worry abouit anyone invading your space.

Thanks! I keep saying to myself, "It will be fine. No worries. I get to meet Mick and that's enough..." I said earlier that I hope I get seats further back, but I am sure it will all be ok. I trust that it will not get crazy. Most of you all trump me, in age, by YEARS so I think I could hold my own. Being that FM fans are so much older I should be in great shape. Older people are pretty mellow.

By the way, I am not saying people who paid more should get the right to move up before anyone else. I am saying that the seat listed on your ticket is the place where you should stay. Do what you want, in YOUR area.

By the way, your "NO sh*t" comment wasn't necessary. Seriously.

[trackaghost]

I have been to more than 5 concerts in the last 6 months and no one behaved like that. I am not blowing anything out of proportion. I am not down with people from rows behind me moving upfront. I am not. If I were in the third row, I would feel the same way. And I am gonna add some smiley faces so that I can be passive-aggressive as well :thumbsup::xoxo::p LOL

Wow, a whole five concerts huh? And before I wasn't being trying to rile you I was genuinely amused that you, as a person who has said he's seen the band before, think there is going to be chaos at a Fleetwood Mac concert. Have you even heard of chaos at a Mac concert even during the height of their fame? The fact is the BAND like the first few rows to stand in front of the stage, you just have to deal with it and the likelihood is that no one other than the first few rows will be the ones there. The couple of people here talking about trying to make it to the front are the exception to the rule: most people stay in their seat. I don't see the point in getting into a hissy fit because one or two people might, but probably won't be able to, sneak up.

[kennation]

Wow, a whole five concerts huh? And before I wasn't being trying to rile you I was genuinely amused that you, as a person who has said he's seen the band before, think there is going to be chaos at a Fleetwood Mac concert. Have you even heard of chaos at a Mac concert even during the height of their fame? The fact is the BAND like the first few rows to stand in front of the stage, you just have to deal with it and the likelihood is that no one other than the first few rows will be the ones there. The couple of people here talking about trying to make it to the front are the exception to the rule: most people stay in their seat. I don't see the point in getting into a hissy fit because one or two people might, but probably won't be able to, sneak up.

You go to more than 5 concerts in a 6 month period? Then WOW... What do you do for a living? I have seen the band and thought that it would be like the Dance. At the Conesco Field House people were a little crazy, but very chaotic. Wasn't there a fist fight in Reno??? That sounds pretty chaotic to me. I had no idea that they let up to 5 rows up there. I am thinking, there cannot be that much room. I am not throwing a hissy fit. I just think that these replies are condenscending (example: your, "wow" comment...") and that makes me question why I still log on to this site. It's almost petty. And sad.

[Zombie]

Ok... Read your own statement... Now think about it... Did I say that everyone needed to set down? No. Did I say that the entire floor should follow the whims of one or two individuals? Nope. People get hurt by this common, general admission mentality. So... maybe you should calm yourself. When people are trying to move up to the edge of the stage and shouldn't be... That is chaos. When people have, "tricks" to sneak upfront... That is CHAOS... So, tell me... What do you call a statement that stated rules don't apply at Rock concerts? Chaos. My statement is that it's not general admission down there and I will make sure that I get MY money's worth. And I will. No worries.

I'm not the one having a fit here so I don't need to calm anything, chief. Nor am I worried, particularly since your interesting sense of self-righteousness will apparently be nowhere near my Mac show on Sunday.

You do seem to have a very different idea of what constitutes as "chaos" from the rest of the planet, though.

I'm just sayin.'

[trackaghost]

To be fair Kennation the amount you paid to go to that one Mac show is probably more than the budget for my whole concert-going year, and yes, I do go to a lot of shows, lots of different types too and I've rarely, if ever, seen what could be described as chaos at any of them, even at the metal shows I've attended. I don't think one fist fight at one show out of all the dates is particularly chaotic.
Honestly, you are going to go to this show and enjoy yourself so much. You shouldn't spoil it for yourself or the people you are with by worrying if someone is going to sneak out of their seat or not. And the likelihood is they won't be able to anyway.

[TheScoop]

Here is an idea you send me the money we spent, WHICH IS NO DOUBT more than YOU and you can be in my space all you want, how about that?

Oh, I have no doubt you spent more than what I did for my ticket. I picked up a second row center seat just the other day for face value. Let's hope all those extra hundreds you spent on meeting Mick got you a place in front of me, although I wouldn't bet on it.

But since you spent so much more money than me and many others, maybe you can request your own gold-encrusted throne instead of a seat and request a spot right in the aisle, thus eliminating anyone invading your personal space and guaranteeing you the special treatment which you seem to feel you so righteously deserve.


As for people needing to be put in a special area you should be ashamed. What if someone was in a wheel chair and couldn't see because you were being selfish and could care less. What if someone got hurt becuase you thought the rules didn't apply? Shameful. As long as everyone is having fun and everyone is respectful that's fine. You should deal with the fact that there are rules, so get over it.

As someone else mentioned, there are special areas designated for those who are physically impaired. However, common sense should apply to those who prefer to sit instead of stand and if they so choose to buy a ticket close to the stage, then they have to be prepared to have other fans standing up in front of them if they're not in row numero uno. The world does not revolve around you and if 95% of the audience is standing, then either you're going to have to stand as well, or sit and deal with having your view blocked. Even if you spent $10,000 on your seat, it does not mean you are entitled to any special treatment than anyone else in your area.

[kennation]

Oh, I have no doubt you spent more than what I did for my ticket. I picked up a second row center seat just the other day for face value. Let's hope all those extra hundreds you spent on meeting Mick got you a place in front of me, although I wouldn't bet on it.

But since you spent so much more money than me and many others, maybe you can request your own gold-encrusted throne instead of a seat and request a spot right in the aisle, thus eliminating anyone invading your personal space and guaranteeing you the special treatment which you seem to feel you so righteously deserve.



As someone else mentioned, there are special areas designated for those who are physically impaired. However, common sense should apply to those who prefer to sit instead of stand and if they so choose to buy a ticket close to the stage, then they have to be prepared to have other fans standing up in front of them if they're not in row numero uno. The world does not revolve around you and if 95% of the audience is standing, then either you're going to have to stand as well, or sit and deal with having your view blocked. Even if you spent $10,000 on your seat, it does not mean you are entitled to any special treatment than anyone else in your area.

I don't care what you think, or say. That simple. And yes, spending more means you get more. Sorry!

[wolfontherun]

I don't care what you think, or say. That simple. And yes, spending more means you get more. Sorry!


Kennation your enthusiasm and concern are understandable.

To everyone lets move on now dude just wants to make sure he has a good time we can all relate.

[michelej1]

I'm guessing you're the type of fan that likes to sit in his seat expressionless while Steve is twirling during Stand Back. How fun.

It is fun. Except for giving rousing standing ovations when they are warranted, I like to sit in my seat and watch the show and I would stay home, except FM has never performed live in my house, so I'm forced to go out to see them and when I do go out I hate all the rowdy, overly-tall, drunks jumping around and obscuring my vision. I'm happy when Security stops them and I like to daydream that they are taken in a back room and viciously manhandled.

When I saw Lindsey in Vegas, Cowgirl hat was hugging and laying all over me, asking why I was not smiling (?) and cackling at my discomfiture, to the point where, even though I did not complain, Security offered to move my seat. I would rather they have thrown her out than have me move. But what're ya gonna do:shrug:.?

I wish most of the people at concerts would stay at home, have a party, put on FM records and rock out all they want. When I go to a concert, I like to see the performer, not just listen to the music and glimpse fragments of them between the flailing arms of obnoxious fans.

Michele

[LukeA]

I don't care what you think, or say. That simple. And yes, spending more means you get more. Sorry!

Except when you get front row tickets for face value. D'oh!

[trackaghost]

I don't care what you think, or say. That simple. And yes, spending more means you get more. Sorry!

You get to meet Mick!

[iamnotafraid]

Ok... When people have, "tricks" to sneak upfront... That is CHAOS...

Well a wise man once said "A rule is a rule. Without rules there's CHAOS."

But Kennation are you really being serious about all this?
If you are......dude how are you going to be able to enjoy
the show? I think you should make up a shirt, black with
the letters in white saying KENNATION. Then we could make
sure to stay away, and give you your space. Especially all the
old broken down fans (?) You did say you can hold your own?

Still I hope you have a good time......for real.
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Michele, I saw your post about the cowgirl hat.
Did she have blonde hair? If so, there was a girl
at the Lindsey concert I attended that tried to get
up on stage with him. Sounds like it might have been
the same person?!?!

[michelej1]

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Michele, I saw your post about the cowgirl hat.
Did she have blonde hair? If so, there was a girl
at the Lindsey concert I attended that tried to get
up on stage with him. Sounds like it might have been
the same person?!?!

Yes. I think she must have been to a lot of Lindsey shows. She said she had.

Michele

[BTFLCHLD]

WELL...

Ken, I do hope you have a good time. Not sure why you are worked up...maybe you're just excitable as you read. Do your best to relax about your shows...generally not a good idea to work up a lot of negs as you may find yourself walking in the door that way...and with that, you may not have such a great time. Seriously, as most have mentioned, one generally doesn't find themselves amongst anyone other than the usuals you will find @ a concert of this genre. Best to chill a little...no need to go in with guns blazed to ready.

Oddly, last Stevie show I went to there was a fistacuff...next thing you know metal chairs were flying! :eek:

Two shows for the price of one! ;)

peace

[BTFLCHLD]

I just think that these replies are condenscending and that makes me question why I still log on to this site. It's almost petty. And sad.
Sorry you feel that way. Online words/tones are easily misinterpreted. If you think about it, I am sure you would probably agree. I do my best to keep that ease of misinterp in mind when I find myself quick with a keystroke.

Enjoy your shows! :wavey: