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wolfontherun
02-24-2009, 06:40 PM
Ok I know this performance has been discussed a bazillion times but in anticipation of it being performed (hopefully) on the upcoming tour I thought we could talk about this version until then.
Ever notice how she compltely disappears about half way through when Lindsey sings a verse then she "magically" reappears?
Seeing Chris doing the head bobs up n down is pretty cool.
The band really sounds amazingly tight and really rocks this song out.
I had not noticed before but Lindsey has his shirt open to the navel!
I think this is probably my all time fav live performance by miz nicks.
jbrownsjr
02-24-2009, 06:43 PM
Ok I know this performance has been discussed a bazillion times but in anticipation of it being performed (hopefully) on the upcoming tour I thought we could talk about this version until then.
Ever notice how she compltely disappears about half way through when Lindsey sings a verse then she "magically" reappears?
Seeing Chris doing the head bobs up n down is pretty cool.
The band really sounds amazingly tight and really rocks this song out.
I had not noticed before but Lindsey has his shirt open to the navel!
I think this is probably my all time fav live performance by miz nicks.
This may just be my favorite FM song live.... amazing...
GypsyGirl15
02-24-2009, 06:48 PM
This is the song that got me into Fleetwood Mac and Stevie. I love it!
AliceLover
02-24-2009, 07:02 PM
Honestly you can't even compare this to the album version or any other live version. This is just the best, from the performance to the vocals. Its just incredible. The only version I have heard that even rivals this is Oakland 10-20-82.
BTFLCHLD
02-24-2009, 07:25 PM
eh..s'ok :shrug:
(JK!) :eek:
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Peestie
02-24-2009, 08:47 PM
eh..s'ok :shrug:
(JK!) :eek:
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It's not even funny how good all of them are in that. :thumbsup:
kennation
02-24-2009, 08:55 PM
eh..s'ok :shrug:
(JK!) :eek:
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I have this feeling that she is going to do this song and f*N' rock it out! They should definitely consider it. 5 days left!!!!!!!
wolfontherun
02-24-2009, 08:58 PM
I have this feeling that she is going to do this song and f*N' rock it out! They should definitely consider it. 5 days left!!!!!!!
I think it is possible they may do it but I doubt she will rock it out.
kennation
02-24-2009, 09:58 PM
I think it is possible they may do it but I doubt she will rock it out.
We'll see, right? Neither one of us know for sure if they will even do it. Promise, if they do, you will get back with me on how you feel she did.
wolfontherun
02-24-2009, 10:09 PM
We'll see, right? Neither one of us know for sure if they will even do it. Promise, if they do, you will get back with me on how you feel she did.
Yes absolutely.
When where r u seeing them?
kennation
02-24-2009, 10:57 PM
Yes absolutely.
When where r u seeing them?
March 8th... Although, I really wanna go to more. I guess I will see how the 8th goes before I decide. (CONFESSION: I have never been to more than one show on the same tour...) When is your show? Are you going to more than one? Does your's come before mine? (please say yes, lol)
PoetofRhiannon
02-24-2009, 11:07 PM
I cannot wait for this tour! :]
Please! I need SOTM! Please!
I dream that SOTM will be their last encore; it would make my life complete.
I cannot get enough of SOTM!
wheart
02-25-2009, 12:10 PM
We'll see, right? Neither one of us know for sure if they will even do it. Promise, if they do, you will get back with me on how you feel she did.
The Mirage performance of SOTM is perfection. From the minute she stomps out on stage banging on that cowbell...My favorite part is towards the end when LB is leaning on Stevie as he's playing, while she's shaking her head, looking very distraut (you all know the part!). It does kinda bug me that they used footage from the second (or first) show in LA for the middle part when she's dancing and then did a horrific job editing the pieces together. Still, it's pure magic!
Glittermoondust
02-25-2009, 12:21 PM
Am I the only one that doesn't really care for this??? :shrug: I mean it's cool and all but I just don't think it is all that...... I've heard other much better live versions........ :sorry:
HejiraNYC
02-25-2009, 12:46 PM
Am I the only one that doesn't really care for this??? :shrug: I mean it's cool and all but I just don't think it is all that...... I've heard other much better live versions........ :sorry:
I have to agree that Stevie's voice was pretty banged up for this song. But at the end of the day it was ultimately about her energy and her astounding commitment to the song- almost like a possessed woman having an exorcism on stage. The only thing that could have topped this performance is if her head started spinning around and she projectile vomited. :eek: :thumbsup:
Livia
02-25-2009, 12:48 PM
I've seen this a gazillion times and I still get goosebumps when Stevie comes crouching back out in that blue light. Gorgeous! :thumbsup: And a great vocal performance too. I also love Rhiannon from that Mirage video.
bikerchic
02-25-2009, 12:58 PM
Why do y'all think she can't do it? If it's the voice, she's sings everything else lower now. Or is she afraid of hurting her voice. She probably doesn't want to sing it if she can't perform it like she use to.
BellaDonna93
02-25-2009, 01:09 PM
That's THE BEST VERSION EVER of SOTM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Livia
02-25-2009, 01:14 PM
Why do y'all think she can't do it? If it's the voice, she's sings everything else lower now. Or is she afraid of hurting her voice. She probably doesn't want to sing it if she can't perform it like she use to.
Bingo! :cool:
kennation
02-25-2009, 01:54 PM
Bingo! :cool:
I am sure that is the case, but I am certain that she would try it one more time. Surely.
jbrownsjr
02-25-2009, 01:56 PM
The Mirage performance of SOTM is perfection. From the minute she stomps out on stage banging on that cowbell...My favorite part is towards the end when LB is leaning on Stevie as he's playing, while she's shaking her head, looking very distraut (you all know the part!). It does kinda bug me that they used footage from the second (or first) show in LA for the middle part when she's dancing and then did a horrific job editing the pieces together. Still, it's pure magic!
Agreed, the edits almost kill a really amazing performance... Sound and Video Edits...
wheart
02-25-2009, 02:13 PM
Why do y'all think she can't do it? If it's the voice, she's sings everything else lower now. Or is she afraid of hurting her voice. She probably doesn't want to sing it if she can't perform it like she use to.
I totally agree but I think it could be just as powerful in her lower register and limited physical movements as it was...just in a different way. Gold Dust Woman still holds a lot of power and intrigue as it is performed today. I think Sisters has that same potential. The song now come be coming from a place of wisdom and maturity which would make it all the more haunting and powerful.
chiliD
02-25-2009, 02:14 PM
Yeah, those two performances were pretty darn good...the second night was actually the better of the two performances.
For those who don't know...this video was filmed over two nights. The first night was what I call the "giggles & grins" night, they were all smiles and seemed happy to be there. The second night, was "I'm gonna kill you" night...they weren't getting along...any of them. It was all "if looks could kill" daggers being shot across stage. So, basically that's how you can tell which clip is from which night...if they're glaring at each other, it's the second night, if they're smiles, it's the first.
The first night was musically tighter, but the second night was a helluva lot more intense, but a bit sloppier both musically & vocally.
skcin
02-25-2009, 02:36 PM
^ Which night did LB not wear underwear? :cool:
wolfontherun
02-25-2009, 03:36 PM
March 8th... Although, I really wanna go to more. I guess I will see how the 8th goes before I decide. (CONFESSION: I have never been to more than one show on the same tour...) When is your show? Are you going to more than one? Does your's come before mine? (please say yes, lol)
Well I will have to wait till May, glad you are seeing them very early in the tour. Stevie's voice will be in good form and not tired. I saw her opening night on CV tour and I swear she sounded better then I have ever heard her including the Dance tour. I heard nuances and inflections in her voice that really surpried me. The whole band actually breathed new life into Dreams as well, they sounded so fresh and invigorated.
Anyway I will either see them in Vegas or in San Jose Ca, not sure yet. No good tickets are popping up so I will wait until they do. I may go to 2 but I doubt it in this economy.
Where are you seeing them? Are you seeing them in an arena? I wish they were playing outdoor venues her in Ca, I really disslike arena seating.
wolfontherun
02-25-2009, 03:38 PM
The Mirage performance of SOTM is perfection. From the minute she stomps out on stage banging on that cowbell...My favorite part is towards the end when LB is leaning on Stevie as he's playing, while she's shaking her head, looking very distraut (you all know the part!). It does kinda bug me that they used footage from the second (or first) show in LA for the middle part when she's dancing and then did a horrific job editing the pieces together. Still, it's pure magic!
And that would explain why she disappears and then magicaly reappears in the middle of the stage, maybe they did that on purpose for the witches out there.
DigYourGrave
02-25-2009, 04:08 PM
Its very difficult to get people my age and younger into the Mac, but one sitting of live SOTM usually does it. Ive yet to meet somebody who hasnt looked at me and gone.."Wow". definitely DEFINITELY Stevie's best live performance.
Peestie
02-25-2009, 06:44 PM
Its very difficult to get people my age and younger into the Mac, but one sitting of live SOTM usually does it. Ive yet to meet somebody who hasnt looked at me and gone.."Wow". definitely DEFINITELY Stevie's best live performance.
I don't think it's hard to get people our age into the Mac, but I do agree that SOTM is very impressive. I don't know if it's Stevie's all time best performance but it is very powerful.
Doctor
02-26-2009, 12:53 AM
I don't think it's hard to get people our age into the Mac, but I do agree that SOTM is very impressive.No? I don't know anyone my age who listens to the Mac. However, I only turn 21 in July... so I'm probably younger than most on this forum, eh?
iamnotafraid
02-26-2009, 04:02 AM
The Mirage performance of SOTM is perfection. It does kinda bug me that they used footage from the second (or first) show in LA for the middle part when she's dancing and then did a horrific job editing the pieces together.
I agree, Sister of The Moon is near perfection on the Mirage video. Also agree that it was a terrible editing job. But all in all, it's the Mac at their rocking best.
If all you heard from Fleetwood Mac was this version of the song, you'd think they were a hard rock band.
As much as I would like to hear her do it live again, do you think she could do the song justice?
Peestie
02-26-2009, 08:33 AM
No? I don't know anyone my age who listens to the Mac. However, I only turn 21 in July... so I'm probably younger than most on this forum, eh?
I turn 21 in April and since I played a few Mac songs at a few parties just about everybody at them has started really listening to them. One of my younger brothers and several of my cousins (again, younger than me) that I've introduced to the Mac have become fans.
They may not be a really popular band among young people but once they get a taste then, in my experience, many become fans. Okay, so they don't become rabid fans but I do know that if they tour the UK I'll have plenty of people to go to gigs with that are my age. Most of them would probably even go to more than one concert with me.
Then again, maybe I just lucked out :shrug:
GypsyGirl15
02-26-2009, 08:43 AM
On the subject of "young" Fleetwood Mac fans. I'm 20 and bought some Mac albums at a record store I found in Hamburg today and the seller goes like "Aren't you a bit young for Fleetwood Mac?" :lol: I usually get weird looks when I buy stuff like the Mac, Stevie, Dire Straits, ect., but I've never gotten a comment like that.
David
02-26-2009, 09:38 AM
As much as I would like to hear her do it live again, do you think she could do the song justice?"Justice" is subjective in this case, I guess (for example, some people think she is perfect on If Anyone Falls from Soundstage but I think it sounds awful).
All we know for certain is that Nicks isn't going to sing it like that, & the band isn't going to play it like that. Nothing from that night or that tour sounds the same today, singer or band: The Chain, Go Your Own Way, Rhiannon, Landslide, Second Hand News, Don't Stop, etc.
animal
02-26-2009, 09:49 AM
All we know for certain is that Nicks isn't going to sing it like that, & the band isn't going to play it like that. Nothing from that night or that tour sounds the same today, singer or band: The Chain, Go Your Own Way, Rhiannon, Landslide, Second Hand News, Don't Stop, etc.
It needs to be released on DVD ;)
Phoenix
02-26-2009, 11:41 AM
I totally agree but I think it could be just as powerful in her lower register and limited physical movements as it was...just in a different way. Gold Dust Woman still holds a lot of power and intrigue as it is performed today. I think Sisters has that same potential. The song now come be coming from a place of wisdom and maturity which would make it all the more haunting and powerful.
EXACTLY. Gold dust woman is a cool song and all, but its only "AMAZING" because its given the full-on treatment with LIGHTS! and "MOVES" and ect. Sisters of the Moon could also be very hauntingly creepy and cool. I LIKE a slower more subdued version, a La the tusk "outtakes" cd where there was that alternate version. I thought that one sounded quite cool.
wheart
02-26-2009, 11:49 AM
"Justice" is subjective in this case, I guess (for example, some people think she is perfect on If Anyone Falls from Soundstage but I think it sounds awful).
All we know for certain is that Nicks isn't going to sing it like that, & the band isn't going to play it like that. Nothing from that night or that tour sounds the same today, singer or band: The Chain, Go Your Own Way, Rhiannon, Landslide, Second Hand News, Don't Stop, etc.
I especially miss the way Landslide was done back in the old days!
michelej1
02-26-2009, 11:56 AM
All we know for certain is that Nicks isn't going to sing it like that, & the band isn't going to play it like that.
Enchanted and If Anyone Falls aren't holding up in concert anymore. Although when the music stops and she does the "twilight. dreamtime. somewhere" chant, that's pretty exciting.
Michele
wheart
02-26-2009, 11:57 AM
EXACTLY. Gold dust woman is a cool song and all, but its only "AMAZING" because its given the full-on treatment with LIGHTS! and "MOVES" and ect. Sisters of the Moon could also be very hauntingly creepy and cool. I LIKE a slower more subdued version, a La the tusk "outtakes" cd where there was that alternate version. I thought that one sounded quite cool.
yup! It could be totally amazing but she would HAVE to wear that same black shawl from the Tusk/Mirage shows...nothing else would do!!
kennation
02-26-2009, 12:09 PM
yup! It could be totally amazing but she would HAVE to wear that same black shawl from the Tusk/Mirage shows...nothing else would do!!
I say wrap her in a shawl... dim those lights with a low light of blue... Hand her a cow bell and lower the volume of drums until she twirls herself into a tizzy! I would like to see the piano be upfront... Maybe Lindsey will drag it out of her... A la Silver Springs circa 1997...
skcin
02-26-2009, 12:22 PM
"Justice" is subjective in this case, I guess (for example, some people think she is perfect on If Anyone Falls from Soundstage but I think it sounds awful).
All we know for certain is that Nicks isn't going to sing it like that, & the band isn't going to play it like that. Nothing from that night or that tour sounds the same today, singer or band: The Chain, Go Your Own Way, Rhiannon, Landslide, Second Hand News, Don't Stop, etc.
For sure on both points. I think IFA is terribly monotone & dull. I do enjoy the acapella part at the end.
Enchanted and If Anyone Falls aren't holding up in concert anymore. Although when the music stops and she does the "twilight. dreamtime. somewhere" chant, that's pretty exciting.
Michele
Enchanted seems slowed down to me these days, like it's a record being played at the wrong speed. I used to like it for its upbeat, happy vibe cuz it seemed to get people into the show, even if they didn't know the song. Not so much anymore. I find it dull.
animal
02-26-2009, 12:35 PM
I say wrap her in a shawl... dim those lights with a low light of blue... Hand her a cow bell and lower the volume of drums until she twirls herself into a tizzy! I would like to see the piano be upfront... Maybe Lindsey will drag it out of her... A la Silver Springs circa 1997...
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AliceLover
02-26-2009, 12:45 PM
Enchanted and If Anyone Falls aren't holding up in concert anymore. Although when the music stops and she does the "twilight. dreamtime. somewhere" chant, that's pretty exciting.
Michele
I always love If Anyone Falls. The melodies never get old to me. I am so glad it has become a staple in her solo set.
kennation
02-26-2009, 01:11 PM
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MORE COWBELL!!!!! STEVIE, we need more Cowbell!!!! That is hilarious! Great job, animal!
Phoenix
02-26-2009, 08:23 PM
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OMG! U BEAT ME TOO IT! :thumbsup::lol:
Phoenix
02-26-2009, 08:25 PM
yup! It could be totally amazing but she would HAVE to wear that same black shawl from the Tusk/Mirage shows...nothing else would do!!
Id want that blue one, like the one she wears in the beginning of the HBO WWD tour vid. Ahh hell, if they do sisters of the moon, id take it if it was preformed in a potato sack. :lol:
kennation
02-26-2009, 08:32 PM
Id want that blue one, like the one she wears in the beginning of the HBO WWD tour vid. Ahh hell, if they do sisters of the moon, id take it if it was preformed in a potato sack. :lol:
SERIOUSLY!!! For real!
Gazza
02-26-2009, 09:15 PM
SOTM is the only song (by Stevie) that I thought Stevie sounded good on, at those shows. Obviously there is that intense version of The Chain as well, but I don't care much for any of the other performances, even if Lindsey is mental on most of them.
wheart
02-27-2009, 09:11 AM
Id want that blue one, like the one she wears in the beginning of the HBO WWD tour vid. Ahh hell, if they do sisters of the moon, id take it if it was preformed in a potato sack. :lol:
yeah, that one would be great, too! She did bust it out a few times on the SYW tour.
David
02-27-2009, 01:12 PM
Maybe she'll convert her Stand Back cape with the polka-dots back into its original use as the Sisters of the Moon cape. :thumbsup:
kennation
02-27-2009, 02:28 PM
Maybe she'll convert her Stand Back cape with the polka-dots back into its original use as the Sisters of the Moon cape. :thumbsup:
That would rock.
BTFLCHLD
03-26-2009, 09:33 PM
finally...sweet audio/visual version
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David
03-27-2009, 12:02 PM
SOTM is the only song (by Stevie) that I thought Stevie sounded good on, at those shows.You didn't like "Dreams" in Detroit? "Landslide" in Irvine? "Sara" in Minneapolis?
Musicman408
03-27-2009, 12:20 PM
finally...sweet audio/visual version
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Damn... just..... Damn!!
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