Does Stevie still smoke?

[louielouie2000]

Cigarettes that is... we know she still likes the wacky weed :lol: . I ask because it seems her voice has improved some since Trouble In Shangri La. I was just listening to some interviews from the Trouble In Shangri La era, and it's very obvious she was still a heavy smoker then... she sounded so gross! But it seems her speaking AND singing voices are both clearer and higher these days. Anyone have the 411? :wavey:

[kennation]

Cigarettes that is... we know she still likes the wacky weed :lol: . I ask because it seems her voice has improved some since Trouble In Shangri La. I was just listening to some interviews from the Trouble In Shangri La era, and it's very obvious she was still a heavy smoker then... she sounded so gross! But it seems her speaking AND singing voices are both clearer and higher these days. Anyone have the 411? :wavey:

From what I understand she use to smoke 2+ packs of KOOLs a day, but she has quit. I read that she used the patch, or something... Maybe it was the gum... Either way, she doesn't smoke anymore. (FROM WHAT SHE TELLS US, lol)

[HejiraNYC]

I suspect that after she went through her "change of life," she probably started up with some kind of estrogen replacement therapy. Ask Suzanne Somers- it sure has kept her all perky and girly after all these years.

[Phoenix]

She suposedly has not smoked in years. (cigarettes that is)

[David]

Maybe she thinned her rib cage & her upper torso by fasting, & then took treatment for COPD.

[SuzeQuze]

She quit in '98. I remember because she did Mix Fest that year and had just quit smoking. She'd lost weight too and looked and sounded so wonderful. It was like, "She's baaaack." Awesome. She did use the patch.

[CADreaming]

There were reports of people seeing her smoking on the SYW tour but who knows...

[kennation]

There were reports of people seeing her smoking on the SYW tour but who knows...

YAY!!! I love Stevie as a smoker. I saw a picture of her smoking and was like, somehow that seems to fit her. I know it's bad for the health, but it seemed to fit her. A girlfriend of mine tried to convince me that she was still on drugs after we watched a couple of videos together one night. I saw her point in one video that's on youtube, but she could have just been really into the moment... I will post video when I find it. I am sure she is all clean, sober, and smoke-free. Surely ;)

P.S.
Why is it everyone thinks that she smokes grass? I would have never pegged her for that.

[CADreaming]

YAY!!! I love Stevie as a smoker. I saw a picture of her smoking and was like, somehow that seems to fit her. I know it's bad for the health, but it seemed to fit her. A girlfriend of mine tried to convince me that she was still on drugs after we watched a couple of videos together one night. I saw her point in one video that's on youtube, but she could have just been really into the moment... I will post video when I find it. I am sure she is all clean, sober, and smoke-free. Surely ;)

P.S.
Why is it everyone thinks that she smokes grass? I would have never pegged her for that.

Oh, she totally smokes weed. I think the reason is the demos that are out where she talks about it. LB hit the pipe a few times on the DR doc, and I'm sure he shared... ;)

[kennation]

Oh, she totally smokes weed. I think the reason is the demos that are out where she talks about it. LB hit the pipe a few times on the DR doc, and I'm sure he shared... ;)

I have the destiny rules doc and I never saw a pipe. Please tell me where to look... I doubt very seriously that it is in there.

[CADreaming]

I have the destiny rules doc and I never saw a pipe. Please tell me where to look... I doubt very seriously that it is in there.

Lindsey clearly hits the pipe when they are in the studio with Mark Needham. The segments are sped up so you have to watch it in slow motion. It's near the end of the segment, I believe the music for Miranda is playing over it, and Stevie has left the control room. It's John, Lindsey and Mick sitting at the table and Lindsey reaches back behind him to his left, gets the pipe and lights it - you can see the smoke rise and he does it a couple of more times.

[BombaySapphire3]

I believe the date that she has mentioned as when she quit smoking was January of 1997 ..5 months prior to the taping of The Dance..not certain if she has relapsed since then,

[louielouie2000]

P.S.
Why is it everyone thinks that she smokes grass? I would have never pegged her for that.

Watch the Destiny Rules doc. When she is rambling about who buys records and double albums and such, she's as high as a kite. Just look at her eyes. If you've ever smoked pot, or known anyone who has smoked pot, that look is unmistakable.

There is also a demo of The Dealer where she says, and I quote:

"Alright, where's the dope? I need to smoke a joint, at least a little bit of a joint. Hey, so I'm a rock and roll hippie."

[kennation]

Watch the Destiny Rules doc. When she is rambling about who buys records and double albums and such, she's as high as a kite. Just look at her eyes. If you've ever smoked pot, or known anyone who has smoked pot, that look is unmistakable.

There is also a demo of The Dealer where she says, and I quote:

"Alright, where's the dope? I need to smoke a joint, at least a little bit of a joint. Hey, so I'm a rock and roll hippie."

Ok... I thought that you saw an actual pipe lying around. I knew Lindsey would be way tooo on top of things for that. I will agree with you- the woman does look a little stoned there. HAHAAA :lol: She total does.

I have never heard The Dealer... is it good? If anyone owns the demo where she asks for a joint, I would love to hear it!!! Please post it!!!

[CADreaming]

Ok... I thought that you saw an actual pipe lying around. I knew Lindsey would be way tooo on top of things for that.

Check my earlier post - he is smoking a pipe in DR...

[MariaA37]

I have never heard The Dealer... is it good? If anyone owns the demo where she asks for a joint, I would love to hear it!!! Please post it!!!

There's about a hundred demos and different versions of The Dealer. I'm going to start a new thread with a few to get you started. I like the song--its grown on me.

~Maria

[kennation]

Check my earlier post - he is smoking a pipe in DR...

HOW ON THIS GREEN EARTH DID YOU NOTICE THAT?!?!?! I just spent the last half hour of my life rewinding, fastforwarding, zooming, analyzing that dvd... YOU ARE RIGHT!!! How did you notice that? He is totally hitting that pipe! I love the fact that he still has a little grass every now and then. Not my thing, but rock on, LB! Seriously, CADreaming, you have eyes like a frappin' hawk. What's more? He didn't even hide it. It was out there for everyone to see. Lindsey, you sly cat, you! Bless his heart. I could imagine what days with Stevie and that band is like. I would have to hit a pipe, or two, myself- :lol: Well done, CADreaming! Well done! KUDOS TO YOU! I am only this psyched because no one else would have, or has- to my knowledge, noticed it. Wow... I zoomed in on my 73" television so it was like, I could smell the weed it was so close, lol. I also do that with Stevie's Soundstage blu-ray... I zoom in so she is life size, lol. Thanks for the LB/Grass point out! Well done!

[CADreaming]

HOW ON THIS GREEN EARTH DID YOU NOTICE THAT?!?!?! I just spent the last half hour of my life rewinding, fastforwarding, zooming, analyzing that dvd... YOU ARE RIGHT!!! How did you notice that? He is totally hitting that pipe! I love the fact that he still has a little grass every now and then. Not my thing, but rock on, LB! Seriously, CADreaming, you have eyes like a frappin' hawk. What's more? He didn't even hide it. It was out there for everyone to see. Lindsey, you sly cat, you! Bless his heart. I could imagine what days with Stevie and that band is like. I would have to hit a pipe, or two, myself- :lol: Well done, CADreaming! Well done! KUDOS TO YOU! I am only this psyched because no one else would have, or has- to my knowledge, noticed it. Wow... I zoomed in on my 73" television so it was like, I could smell the weed it was so close, lol. I also do that with Stevie's Soundstage blu-ray... I zoom in so she is life size, lol. Thanks for the LB/Grass point out! Well done!

ROFLOL! Thanks, I guess I've just got good eyesight? The smoke caught my attention the first time I saw it and so I slowed it down and voila! Funny stuff, isn't it? It's also funny before that where Stevie picks up her dog and leans it over to Lindsey while he's laying down on the sofa, I guess for him to pet it or I could just hear her making "doggie" talk to Lindsey with it..."Hi, Linds. Pet me!" LOL.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/snl_mac_iconsandbanners/sigsnltokin2.jpg

[GypsyGirl15]

I think I've watched DR 12 times since I got it last November, but I never noticed that.

or I could just hear her making "doggie" talk to Lindsey with it..."Hi, Linds. Pet me!" LOL.


:lol:

[bellagypsy79]

This is a funny subject. Stevie's voice has improved a little not because of cigarettes. Cigarettes don't improve your voice, they make you sound like Marianne Faithfull. Stevie works with a vocal coach now. That's why she sounds so good. I really don't think that she was "high as a kite" in that Destiny Rules Doc. She was probably exausted from recording and arguing with Buckingham. Hell, arguing with that man could make anyone exausted. LOL! I love him to death, but sometimes, he can be a little strange. LOL! I've gotta check out that "pipe thing" with Lindsey on the doc. though. LOL!:blob2::]

[HejiraNYC]

This is a funny subject. Stevie's voice has improved a little not because of cigarettes. Cigarettes don't improve your voice, they make you sound like Marianne Faithfull. Stevie works with a vocal coach now. That's why she sounds so good. I really don't think that she was "high as a kite" in that Destiny Rules Doc. She was probably exausted from recording and arguing with Buckingham. Hell, arguing with that man could make anyone exausted. LOL! I love him to death, but sometimes, he can be a little strange. LOL! I've gotta check out that "pipe thing" with Lindsey on the doc. though. LOL!:blob2::]

Well, my recollection is that Stevie started working with a vocal coach ever since The Dance era in 1997, so I don't think that could explain why Stevie sounds better now after sounding a bit "off" between the TISL and SYW eras. I think there could be a number of factors:

-Weight gain/loss
-Hip/back/foot issues necessitating the use of corticosteroids (which helps to explain the SYW weight gain)
-Menopause
-Better management of her chronic bronchitis/asthma

I also suspect that non-stop touring has forced her to maintain peak form on a constant basis; remember, no moss grows on a rolling stone. :shrug:

[louielouie2000]

This is a funny subject. Stevie's voice has improved a little not because of cigarettes. Cigarettes don't improve your voice, they make you sound like Marianne Faithfull. Stevie works with a vocal coach now. That's why she sounds so good. I really don't think that she was "high as a kite" in that Destiny Rules Doc. She was probably exausted from recording and arguing with Buckingham. Hell, arguing with that man could make anyone exausted. LOL! I love him to death, but sometimes, he can be a little strange. LOL! I've gotta check out that "pipe thing" with Lindsey on the doc. though. LOL!:blob2::]

You're not getting what I'm saying: her STOPPING SMOKING seems to have helped her voice tremendously. She was supposedly seen smoking during the SYW tour, and her voice was kinda ragged during that and the TISL tour. She's sounded better since. I agree with Hejira too though... I think it's a combo of things contributing to her improved voice.

Regarding her smoking pot, she's said in several interviews that she quote "hasn't done any HARD DRUGS since 1986." She's a baby boomer, hippie, rock star... if she DIDN'T smoke pot, I'd be very, very surprised.

[kennation]

You're not getting what I'm saying: her STOPPING SMOKING seems to have helped her voice tremendously. She was supposedly seen smoking during the SYW tour, and her voice was kinda ragged during that and the TISL tour. She's sounded better since. I agree with Hejira too though... I think it's a combo of things contributing to her improved voice.

Regarding her smoking pot, she's said in several interviews that she quote "hasn't done any HARD DRUGS since 1986." She's a baby boomer, hippie, rock star... if she DIDN'T smoke pot, I'd be very, very surprised.

Louie, you are nothing if not consistent. I AM LMAO!!! :lol:

[bellagypsy79]

You're not getting what I'm saying: her STOPPING SMOKING seems to have helped her voice tremendously. She was supposedly seen smoking during the SYW tour, and her voice was kinda ragged during that and the TISL tour. She's sounded better since. I agree with Hejira too though... I think it's a combo of things contributing to her improved voice.

Regarding her smoking pot, she's said in several interviews that she quote "hasn't done any HARD DRUGS since 1986." She's a baby boomer, hippie, rock star... if she DIDN'T smoke pot, I'd be very, very surprised.

Sorry. I wasn't reading carefully. My bad. LOL!:]:p

[michelej1]

ROFLOL! Thanks, I guess I've just got good eyesight? The smoke caught my attention the first time I saw it and so I slowed it down and voila! Funny stuff, isn't it? It's also funny before that where Stevie picks up her dog and leans it over to Lindsey while he's laying down on the sofa, I guess for him to pet it or I could just hear her making "doggie" talk to Lindsey with it..."Hi, Linds. Pet me!" LOL.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/snl_mac_iconsandbanners/sigsnltokin2.jpg

Maybe they thought since it was speeded up, no one would notice.

With her dog, I like the part in rehearsal where the dog is running around during GYOW and Lindsey follows it a little and he runs away. I don't think the dog cared for the shackin' up part:p.

Michele

[EveryHour]

I was just listening to some interviews from the Trouble In Shangri La era, and it's very obvious she was still a heavy smoker then... she sounded so gross!

I think what you're referring to here had to do with menopause. Hormones effect changes in women's voices throughout their life. When she was in the thick of it, she openly discussed (and we all noticed) a drop in her energy level, at which time her voice may have been a bit more gravelly. Now that she is through it and feeling better (and possibly taking some type of supplemental estrogen), her voice may be more youthful again.

I believe that Stevie did 'officially' quit cigarettes in '97, but as for pot.....who knows?! If she has had some minor cigarette relapses since then (the alleged SYW smoking sightings), that would not be at all unlikely or uncommon. Everyone I know who has quit smoking has relapsed anywhere from once to multiple times. They say the main goal is to stay on the path of not becoming a full time smoker again, because cigarettes are so incredibly addictive on so many levels and therefore incredibly difficult to stay away from! I'm sure it's likely still a challenge that rears its ugly head for Stevie sometimes, especially given that she has a variety of many addictions in her past.

[AliceLover]

I think what you're referring to here had to do with menopause. Hormones effect changes in women's voices throughout their life. When she was in the thick of it, she openly discussed (and we all noticed) a drop in her energy level, at which time her voice may have been a bit more gravelly. Now that she is through it and feeling better (and possibly taking some type of supplemental estrogen), her voice may be more youthful again.

I believe that Stevie did 'officially' quit cigarettes in '97, but as for pot.....who knows?! If she has had some minor cigarette relapses since then (the alleged SYW smoking sightings), that would not be at all unlikely or uncommon. Everyone I know who has quit smoking has relapsed anywhere from once to multiple times. They say the main goal is to stay on the path of not becoming a full time smoker again, because cigarettes are so incredibly addictive on so many levels and therefore incredibly difficult to stay away from! I'm sure it's likely still a challenge that rears its ugly head for Stevie sometimes, especially given that she has a variety of many addictions in her past.

I agree with most of what you said. I remember reading concert reviews for the Say You Will Tour, Atlanta 2004, specifically and fans said they saw her smokin butts before the show. Im sure its just for her nerves. As for the pot, I have full confidence that Stevie Nicks still gets high. She lives alone (basically) and has tons of money, im sure a joint or two gets the creative juices going for her.

[StevieRox2]

IMO, she still tokes up. I saw her when she toured with Tom Petty a few years ago and her eyes are soooooo glassy and heavy - and she so got into American Girl, look at the tour pics and her eyes - who could blame her? toking with Tom & the gang - good times for sure!

[wheart]

I think I've watched DR 12 times since I got it last November, but I never noticed that.



:lol:

OK, I've never noticed it either. Now I have to watch it tonight!!

[kennation]

OK, I've never noticed it either. Now I have to watch it tonight!!

It's true... It's all there... Just ask LOUIE! My man knows where to find it. (STILL LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY!) All day long all I said, "Way to be LB!" People I work with didn't find it as amusing as I did, but who cares. I thought it was documentary gold!

[CADreaming]

It's true... It's all there... Just ask LOUIE! My man knows where to find it. (STILL LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY!) All day long all I said, "Way to be LB!" People I work with didn't find it as amusing as I did, but who cares. I thought it was documentary gold!

Haha! I have to agree - documentary gold... Columbian gold... ;)

[GypsyDreams]

ROFLOL! Thanks, I guess I've just got good eyesight? The smoke caught my attention the first time I saw it and so I slowed it down and voila! Funny stuff, isn't it? It's also funny before that where Stevie picks up her dog and leans it over to Lindsey while he's laying down on the sofa, I guess for him to pet it or I could just hear her making "doggie" talk to Lindsey with it..."Hi, Linds. Pet me!" LOL.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/snl_mac_iconsandbanners/sigsnltokin2.jpg

OK! I am sooooo watching my DR DVD tonight!!! I can't wait to see this :] Love that pic too..we been tokin' LMAO They do seem to be pretty chillaxed there. :lol:

[vivfox]

Well I can't speak for Stevie, but the last time I smoked a cigarette was on June 16,2002. Anytime since then that I've thought about lighting one up again I look up and in large imaginary letters I see the words S-L-E-E-P - -- A-P-N-E-A.
That is the reason why I know I will NEVER smoke cigs again!!! I love this website. Everyone cracks me up.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

I personally don't think she smokes, however she may give in and have one every so often. I know I personally saw her smoking, as did others, at the July 30th 2001 Chastain Park show in Atlanta. We watched the Soundcheck through the wood fence, and she DEFINITELY smoked in between songs. Now, what she was smoking? Who knows, the way she held it looked like a cigerrette though.

[CADreaming]

OK! I am sooooo watching my DR DVD tonight!!! I can't wait to see this :] Love that pic too..we been tokin' LMAO They do seem to be pretty chillaxed there. :lol:

Couldn't resist...they're the only ones in the photo with shades on...:thumbsup:

[kennation]

Couldn't resist...they're the only ones in the photo with shades on...:thumbsup:

CADreaming you are the star of this thread. Absolutely! That picture is hilarious.

[GypsyGirl15]

It's so funny watching all the fast forwarded sequences in slow motion.

CADreaming: Do you have the original of that photo? I had it on my computer, but can't find it now.

[vivfox]

Now, what she was smoking? Who knows, the way she held it looked like a cigerrette though.
When I used to smoke a joint you might of thought I was holding a cigarette too.

[Moz]

Here's the Destiny Rules pot incident slowed down... :lol: Thought someone might get a kick out of it. I sure did!

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[CADreaming]

CADreaming you are the star of this thread. Absolutely! That picture is hilarious.

I LOVE that! :thumbsup:

It's so funny watching all the fast forwarded sequences in slow motion.

CADreaming: Do you have the original of that photo? I had it on my computer, but can't find it now.

Here ya go!

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/misc%20players/sywsnlmickmixingstudio.jpg


Here's the Destiny Rules pot incident slowed down... :lol: Thought someone might get a kick out of it. I sure did!

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HYSTERICAL!!! Thanks for posting! :]

[MacMan]

HAHA That IS funny... I really never would have believed it... Now we need some Stevie proof.

[GypsyGirl15]

Thanks, CADreaming. Quite suspcious they're the only ones wearing sunglasses! And Stevie looks so tiny. :laugh:

[kennation]

This may be my favorite thread, ever. I have so much fun checking it. You never know what little gems of Mac-goodness you will find. I gotta tell you something- little Stevie was wearing those glasses circa '75 and I love it! Lindsey looked BEYOND blazed! BEYOND! I love it. "We be tokin..." is my new favorite line, thanks, CADreaming! I hope this thread goes on forever. I watched it this morning before I got in the shower! LOVE IT! Thanks for the smiles you all! ;)

[BellaDonna93]

Here's the Destiny Rules pot incident slowed down... :lol: Thought someone might get a kick out of it. I sure did!

<embed width="448" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://img.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vidmg.photobucket.com/albums/v280/deathbysoup/hajajaa.flv">

I hadn't seen is before, though I've watched it a millions of times!!! But I had to see it again yesterday 'cause I wanted to know if he really did smoke, and yep, he DID!!! I had to see it in slow motion and zoom in it, haha! Well, I hope Stevie doesn't smoke but who knows? She maybe does...

[GypsyGirl15]

I remember an article where she talked about/admitted to chain smoking and that she felt much better after quitting or something. It was on elibrary.com, but I don't have access to that site anymore. It was an article from the late 90s or early 00, I can't really remember.

[CADreaming]

I remember an article where she talked about/admitted to chain smoking and that she felt much better after quitting or something. It was on elibrary.com, but I don't have access to that site anymore. It was an article from the late 90s or early 00, I can't really remember.


Sunday Mail (UK), Jul. 16, '89:
'I was one chain-smoking, coffee-swilling mess while I was there' at the Betty Ford Clinic"


Mark and Brian Show, 8/15/97:

MB: So your body goes through - you lose that much weight, - your body goes through all these changes. What about your voice? Did it improve it? Did you have to rework it, almost?

SN: Well you know, you can be very heavy, and have a great voice.

MB: No, no, no. But you -

SN: You could be a opera - opera singer, you know. So its like that doesn't. . . No. Actually, I think my voice is really a lot better is cause I stopped smoking January 1st.

MB: (simultaneously) Hey, way to go/oh congratulations.

SN: That was hard. >unintelligible banter<

MB: That's beyond hard.

SN: That was harder than losing weight.

MB: Its close to impossible. You know, its easy, almost, to say no to the dessert, or to this or to that. But to not pick up that good looking Marlboro Red, and fire it up, baby.

LB: hehehehehe

MB: Lets go - lets celebrate this one with a smoke. What do you say?

SN: >cracks up<

[kennation]

Sunday Mail (UK), Jul. 16, '89:
'I was one chain-smoking, coffee-swilling mess while I was there' at the Betty Ford Clinic"



MB: Its close to impossible. You know, its easy, almost, to say no to the dessert, or to this or to that. But to not pick up that good looking Marlboro Red, and fire it up, baby.

LB: hehehehehe

MB: Lets go - lets celebrate this one with a smoke. What do you say?

SN: >cracks up<


See that little giggle will catch up with ya... I bet she is back on the cigs! Maybe not full time, but close... Now that I think about it- if she were casually smoking during SYW... she may be really smoking now. Who knows?! Who cares? Other than me? LOL

[CADreaming]

See that little giggle will catch up with ya... I bet she is back on the cigs! Maybe not full time, but close... Now that I think about it- if she were casually smoking during SYW... she may be really smoking now. Who knows?! Who cares? Other than me? LOL

My thought is that she only smokes cigarettes sporadically but tokes regularly... ;)

[kennation]

My thought is that she only smokes cigarettes sporadically but tokes regularly... ;)

Do you think they ever roll their own? Or is it pipe and bong? I am still crazy over this ordeal... I have told people who don't even know who Fleetwood Mac is! That is how ironic this is!

[krrrby]

There is an interview with Stevie before the SYW tour came out where she specifically said that she had quit smoking - and I believe she mentioned that she never really quit and how her voice was much better...

The dope? maybe...but I don't think she's on cigs anymore.

[CADreaming]

Do you think they ever roll their own? Or is it pipe and bong? I am still crazy over this ordeal... I have told people who don't even know who Fleetwood Mac is! That is how ironic this is!

Yeah, I think Lindsey would roll. "Vegetable" garden, my arse. LOL.

Ironic or ICONIC? ;)

[kennation]

Yeah, I think Lindsey would roll. "Vegetable" garden, my arse. LOL.

Ironic or ICONIC? ;)

I will take Rock Star behavior for a hundred, Alex...

[BTFLCHLD]

vapor is the way to go....smoke sux.

[skcin]

Do you think they ever roll their own? Or is it pipe and bong? I am still crazy over this ordeal... I have told people who don't even know who Fleetwood Mac is! That is how ironic this is!

Please. You know damn well their assistants are the ones doing the rolling or packing for them. :rolleyes:

[kennation]

Please. You know damn well their assistants are the ones doing the rolling or packing for them. :rolleyes:

Everyone is so funny on this thread. I am so happy that no one has been yelling, or yelled at, :lol: I look forward to checking it everytime I come on The Ledge. Which is like every 15 minutes, lol.

[Phoenix]

Please. You know damn well their assistants are the ones doing the rolling or packing for them. :rolleyes:


:lol:Oh that Karen, shes got quite the jobs, inbetween what was aforementioned, taking those little dogs out to poop, Loading up ipods, and her work with Stevie's shawls and the Bedazzler. ahhh, the life.:thumbsup:

[GypsyGirl15]

^^^
I'd love to be Stevie's personal assistant though! If Karen ever quits, hire me, Stevie! :lol:

[kennation]

^^^
I'd love to be Stevie's personal assistant though! If Karen ever quits, hire me, Stevie! :lol:

That would be an amazing job. I am sure that there is a confidentiality agreement that must be signed. I am sure of it. What are your thoughts? Would Stevie Nicks require one to sign a Confidentiality Agreement upon being hired as an assistant?

[GypsyGirl15]

That would be an amazing job. I am sure that there is a confidentiality agreement that must be signed. I am sure of it. What are your thoughts? Would Stevie Nicks require one to sign a Confidentiality Agreement upon being hired as an assistant?

I guess so, especially if she actually does things like those mentioned in this thread (smoking pot, ect).

[GypsyDreams]

^^^
I'd love to be Stevie's personal assistant though! If Karen ever quits, hire me, Stevie! :lol:

Omigawd! That would be the job of my dreams!!! :angel: I'd roll all day long for her.

And like mentioned before I'd die to see a Stevie pic tokin'... that Lindsay video cracked me UP!! I have had a totally bad day and coming here just made me forget it all!! :lol:

[GypsyDreams]

Everyone is so funny on this thread. I am so happy that no one has been yelling, or yelled at, :lol: I look forward to checking it everytime I come on The Ledge. Which is like every 15 minutes, lol.


I'd be checkin it ALL day if my work would let me use the internet for my personal use! But I at least get to cure my addiction in the evenings. :D

[kennation]

I'd be checkin it ALL day if my work would let me use the internet for my personal use! But I at least get to cure my addiction in the evenings. :D

I STAY ON THE LEDGE. I feel a little concerned sometimes. I have to cut myself off from this, but I really like seeing differences in opinion- different ways of looking at things. At the end of it all we seem like a happy group of people who like sharing different mac pieces i.e. downloads, stories, art.... I just think that it's great. I love how we sometimes get short with one another and heavily express ourselves. It just reminds me of, well, Fleetwood Mac. LOL I am glad that I am here. Where would I be without The Ledge??? I pplant o cut back AFTER the concert. HOPEFULLY! Does Betty Ford have a Ledge rehab? (Someone call my gal, Stevie.)

[GypsyGirl15]

I STAY ON THE LEDGE. I feel a little concerned sometimes. I have to cut myself off from this, but I really like seeing differences in opinion- different ways of looking at things. At the end of it all we seem like a happy group of people who like sharing different mac pieces i.e. downloads, stories, art.... I just think that it's great. I love how we sometimes get short with one another and heavily express ourselves. It just reminds me of, well, Fleetwood Mac. LOL I am glad that I am here. Where would I be without The Ledge??? I pplant o cut back AFTER the concert. HOPEFULLY! Does Betty Ford have a Ledge rehab? (Someone call my gal, Stevie.)

Oh, and I thought I was the only one! I actually stay on the Ledge during the entire time I'm online ... Need to check into that Ledge rehab you're talking about! :lol:

[kennation]

Oh, and I thought I was the only one! I actually stay on the Ledge during the entire time I'm online ... Need to check into that Ledge rehab you're talking about! :lol:

I am telling ya, gal! I am on here for hours in a day. Sporadic hours, but hours nonetheless. If there isn't a rehabilitation program, I am gonna start one, lol!

[CADreaming]

Stevie should remake "Smoking in the Boy's Room"...

[kennation]

Stevie should remake "Smoking in the Boy's Room"...

FOR REALS!!! She totally should. Maybe as another song that she, "didn't write," but "loves." LOL I think just after Rock N Roll, on her solo tours, she should do , Smoking in the Boys Room. Totally Agree. Maybe she should do Tokin in the Boy's Room... LOL

[ragrsrocalot]

HAHA That IS funny... I really never would have believed it... Now we need some Stevie proof.

I'm trying to figure out how to do that.

[ragrsrocalot]

Can someone tell me how to post a photo\photos to my post?

[ragrsrocalot]

<img src"stevie smoking the pipe">

[ragrsrocalot]

http://s977.photobucket.com/albums/ae256/ragesrocalot/?action=view&current=steviesmokingthepipe.jpg

Stevie hitting the pipe, right next to her partner in crime.

[daniellaaarisen]

http://s977.photobucket.com/albums/ae256/ragesrocalot/?action=view&current=steviesmokingthepipe.jpg

Stevie hitting the pipe, right next to her partner in crime.

I'm skeptical... but I would be so excited if she really did smoke. Hahahahahahahahaha

[ragrsrocalot]

It's from the DR doc. She partakes before Lindsey does, watch it in slow mo, she even does it a second time, and you see her tilt her head back and blow smoke up into the air. Then Karen comes in with her food, she munches out, leaves, and then it's Lindsey's turn.

[CADreaming]

http://s977.photobucket.com/albums/ae256/ragesrocalot/?action=view&current=steviesmokingthepipe.jpg

Stevie hitting the pipe, right next to her partner in crime.

ROFLOL!!! How did I miss that?!

http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae256/ragesrocalot/steviesmokingthepipe.jpg

[cristochango]

ROFLOL!!! How did I miss that?!

http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae256/ragesrocalot/steviesmokingthepipe.jpg

this is great haha

[ragrsrocalot]

I was trying to include the picture this way into my post, still dont know how, anyone care to explain please?:(

[daniellaaarisen]

I was trying to include the picture this way into my post, still dont know how, anyone care to explain please?:(

Without the spaces:

[ I M G ] link here [/ I M G ]

[vivfox]

I was trying to include the picture this way into my post, still dont know how, anyone care to explain please?:(

Open up a free account at www.photobucket.com and from there you extract photos from your computer. Then you copy the image code and paste it here. Try it and let me know if this works for you.

[ragrsrocalot]

http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae256/ragesrocalot/steviesmoking2.jpg

I got it now. Thank you very much.

[CADreaming]

It's from the DR doc. She partakes before Lindsey does, watch it in slow mo, she even does it a second time, and you see her tilt her head back and blow smoke up into the air. Then Karen comes in with her food, she munches out, leaves, and then it's Lindsey's turn.

I can't believe I missed hers - I caught Karen and the food and LB's part but totally missed Stevie's! Great catch.

In honor of the auspicious occasion, breakin' my banner back out:

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/snl_mac_iconsandbanners/sigsnltokin2.jpg

[gypsy4life]

Stevie musta got the munchies if Karen brought food right after..lol!!

[ragrsrocalot]

I can't believe I missed hers - I caught Karen and the food and LB's part but totally missed Stevie's! Great catch.

In honor of the auspicious occasion, breakin' my banner back out:

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/snl_mac_iconsandbanners/sigsnltokin2.jpg

That banner is really funny, I love it!

[louielouie2000]

My thought is that she only smokes cigarettes sporadically but tokes regularly... ;)

Yeah, my first clue that she was still toking was when she said several years back that "I haven't done any hardcore drugs since 1986." Then came the Destiny Rules doc... where she was clearly high when she was sitting on the couch talking about "this is not about art." I have to admit I'm kinda surprised Stevie is a pipe girl... she seems like she'd be more of an old school rolling paper kinda gal :laugh:. The fact she's still smoking pot definitely explains why her voice has continued to degrade the past 15 years... pot is rough on your vocal chords!

[hippilil86]

I love this thread. In my eyes, this picture makes Stevie even greater. Rock on.

[mylittledemon]

I personally don't think she smokes, however she may give in and have one every so often. I know I personally saw her smoking, as did others, at the July 30th 2001 Chastain Park show in Atlanta.

Hey I was at that show, too! I don't remember seeing that! :lol: Lenny Castro came and sat next to my brother and I. He was talking to someone about whether or not the crowd would be a big crowd, and then we all started discussing how brutally hot it was outside. ;)

[grace_face]

OH MY GOD, I REALLY had NO IDEA!!! I think this is really cool!! STEVIE ROCKS!!!!!! :blob2:

I have watched the DR DVD SOOOO many times, and never ever noticed any of that!! Heheh!

I'm glad Stevie doesn't smoke cigs anymore. And if she has the occasional one, meh. Whatever. I quit my 30 a day habit in 2005 and I probably still have maybe 3 a year or so. It's no biggie.

This is cool...I gotta say. lol

[michelej1]

So, did they think if they just sped the video up, we'd never see anything?? Kind of odd what's in there. Michele

[grace_face]

Yeah, maybe. But I think they didn't mind if people noticed. They must've thought someone would one day (pretty soon) notice...and I mean, these days nobody really cares if some rock stars do pot, you know? lol (or I should clarify, people don't care in a NEGATIVE way if rock stars do pot. We obviously care and are very interested, but it's in a curious, amused and positive way I'd say)

[CADreaming]

So, did they think if they just sped the video up, we'd never see anything?? Kind of odd what's in there. Michele

That Lindsey really is a "magician" - he's got so many tricks up his sleeves...

[fringed n fab]

I must have missed that snippet in DR. Were they actually lighting up? I'm wondering if it's some fancy vapor thing for their voices or something they use? You guys would have to tell me because I don't remember that part. I just can't picture Stevie smoking pot!

[GypsyBlueEyes]

ahahahahahaha...I knew it!

So, did they think if they just sped the video up, we'd never see anything??

lol...maybe Stevie doesn't even know that clip was included in DR. If most of us are just realizing it now, what's the likelihood that she would have noticed what was in the sped up parts? Lindsey probably included it and just didn't tell her :lol:

[vivfox]

I must have missed that snippet in DR. Were they actually lighting up? I'm wondering if it's some fancy vapor thing for their voices or something they use?

I just can't picture Stevie smoking pot!

Some fancy vapor thing that ignites with a lighter?

You can't picture Stevie smoking pot? Whyyyyyyyyy notttttttttttt???

[louielouie2000]

I just can't picture Stevie smoking pot!

Stevie has always smoked pot. There is an old demo of, I believe it's Mistress Of My Fate, where she says something like "Ok where's the weed? I need a joint, at least a little bit of a joint. Hey... so I'm a rock and roll hippie!" :laugh: Pot is probably what degraded her vocal chords more than smoking, cocaine, and her old school Rhiannon exorcisms combined. It's tough on your throat and lungs! More power to her though... nothing mellows you out and makes you happy like Ms Mary Jane! :lol:

[ragrsrocalot]

Stevie has always smoked pot. nothing mellows you out and makes you happy like Ms Mary Jane! :lol:

Ha Ha Ha Ha. Like Tom Petty say's It's Good to Be King-get a feeling of peace at the end of the day. Sheryl Crow say's If it Make's You Happy- it can't be that bad. Dave Matthews Says- Jimi Thing- sit back relax, smoke my mind, make me feel better for a small time. There is a little theme going on.:nod:

[Moz]

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[ragrsrocalot]

It does'nt faze anyone.

[michelej1]

Yeah, maybe. But I think they didn't mind if people noticed. They must've thought someone would one day (pretty soon) notice...and I mean, these days nobody really cares if some rock stars do pot, you know? lol (or I should clarify, people don't care in a NEGATIVE way if rock stars do pot. We obviously care and are very interested, but it's in a curious, amused and positive way I'd say)

It seems to me that Stevie might care. I don't think the guys do.

ahahahahahaha...I knew it!
lol...maybe Stevie doesn't even know that clip was included in DR. If most of us are just realizing it now, what's the likelihood that she would have noticed what was in the sped up parts? Lindsey probably included it and just didn't tell her :lol:

Yes, I think you've got it.

Michele

[michelej1]

I must have missed that snippet in DR. Were they actually lighting up? I'm wondering if it's some fancy vapor thing for their voices or something they use? You guys would have to tell me because I don't remember that part. I just can't picture Stevie smoking pot!

I think what's in that picture is a pipe, but when you mention that, I do remember her using a vapor thing for her voice back in the day. It was a machine and she put her head over it and let the steam come up. It was almost like giving yourself a facial.

What I remember the most about that video clip was that she and Robin were using the vapor machine and Lindsey was across the room and he started walking over and she seemed really distracted by the fact that he was coming over in her direction. When he got there, he just said something like, "hey" when he passed them, but she seemed like she was on a spring. She could hardly inhale the vapor for looking at his approach.

Michele

[AliceLover]

I don't see this is as much of a surprise? Doesn't everyone toke up every once and a while?

[michelej1]

I don't see this is as much of a surprise? Doesn't everyone toke up every once and a while?

No, not everyone does. But I'm not surprised that Stevie was still doing it as recently as the SYW. Also, if she does have some kind of degenerative joint disease, maybe the marijuana makes that feel better and is not just recreational any longer.

Michele

[AliceLover]

No, not everyone does. But I'm not surprised that Stevie was still doing it as recently as the SYW. Also, if she does have some kind of degenerative joint disease, maybe the marijuana makes that feel better and is not just recreational any longer.

Michele

Awww cmon Michele. Next time Lindsey tours, we'll share a joint behind the venue before the show! :laugh:

And no, I think she smokes because she s a rock star. After doing "hard drugs" for so many years, taking a hit out of a piece is like taking a tylenol.

[GypsyBlueEyes]

If she does have some kind of degenerative joint disease, maybe the marijuana makes that feel better and is not just recreational any longer.

I was thinking about that earlier today. That could very well be it.

I'm partial to this theory too:

I think she smokes because she s a rock star. After doing "hard drugs" for so many years, taking a hit out of a piece is like taking a tylenol.

Sooooo true! :thumbsup:

[CADreaming]

No, not everyone does. But I'm not surprised that Stevie was still doing it as recently as the SYW. Also, if she does have some kind of degenerative joint disease, maybe the marijuana makes that feel better and is not just recreational any longer.

Michele

Yeah, I just read somewhere that marijuana helps with arthritis. So, maybe...although I do think she would still be tokin' regardless...

[michelej1]

Yeah, I just read somewhere that marijuana helps with arthritis. So, maybe...although I do think she would still be tokin' regardless...

Well, I agree. I'm just saying it now has added benefits, perhaps. I wouldn't say that's the reason she does it. I know it isn't Lindsey's reason and I didn't even think it was Melissa Etheridge's after I heard her give some pretty cock-eyed rationalizations to Anderson Cooper about her post-chemo use of weed.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Well, I agree. I'm just saying it now has added benefits, perhaps. I wouldn't say that's the reason she does it. I know it isn't Lindsey's reason and I didn't even think it was Melissa Etheridge's after I heard her give some pretty cock-eyed rationalizations to Anderson Cooper about her post-chemo use of weed.

Michele

Ha! How convenient ... (not to make light of cancer or its treatments) ...

[Lala]

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Haha! Thank you for posting :thumbsup:

[fringed n fab]

No not everyone smokes pot. I never have or wanted to do any drugs. It just wasn't something I wanted to do or be around. In regards to Stevie smoking pot tho, it just shocks me she'd still smoke after quitting cigarettes all those years...

[Nathan]

Some fancy vapor thing that ignites with a lighter?

You can't picture Stevie smoking pot? Whyyyyyyyyy notttttttttttt???



Yes, some fancy vapor thing that ignites with a lighter. :lol: And it's for their voices.

[Nathan]

No, not everyone does. But I'm not surprised that Stevie was still doing it as recently as the SYW. Also, if she does have some kind of degenerative joint disease, maybe the marijuana makes that feel better and is not just recreational any longer.

Michele



Are you kidding? Of course, it's recreational.

I, for one am not surprised that she's still smoking. My sense is that she's a practical minded, progressive person at 61. A little old lady who shops and probably eats cake when she's bummed out. In Stevie land, she's would be a lot more Greta than Alice. But I digress - she smokes dope and watches The Office - be real, folks.



Or, maybe she's a witch.

[Nathan]

Awww cmon Michele. Next time Lindsey tours, we'll share a joint behind the venue before the show! :laugh:

And no, I think she smokes because she s a rock star. After doing "hard drugs" for so many years, taking a hit out of a piece is like taking a tylenol.

Yeah, Jimmy - that's what's going on.

And in any case, there's just no way she know it was in the movie. I'm sure no one else in the immediate circle did either.

[GypsyBlueEyes]

Yes, I think you've got it.

Sneaky Lindsey...he knew what he was doing :D Gotta love him for it, though :thumbsup:

[grace_face]

Hmm...no way anyone in the immediate circle new it was in the movie, eh? I doubt that. FM not in control of every single thing they produce or create? I think not. They've got a billion "people" (lawyers, marketing people, etc) who would have gone over every single piece of footage on that DVD so...I'm pretty sure they would know it was in there...I'm surprised that none of those "people" thought to take it out, that's all.

I hope Stevie doesn't have any sort of degenerative arthritis type disease...I think any pot use now is totally recreational, and why the hell not!? It's not a hideous drug. It's fun, it's relaxing, it's a social drug if not taken to real extremes...I myself would gladly sit back and share a joint, pipe or bong with Stevie and anyone else who's around!! :D

[michelej1]

Ha! How convenient ... (not to make light of cancer or its treatments) ...

Yeah, and I should clarify: when I said post-chemo, I actually meant after she stopped taking chemo completely. She didn't just do it when she was battling cancer. She still does it NOW, but she told Anderson it was for her health today, not for pleasure.

Michele

[grace_face]

Who was the person who said they knew why Lindsey did it, but not Stevie? Why DOES Lindsey do it? (beyond just for fun of course)

[~GoldDustWoman~]

I bet she still tokes it up, hell i'm in the Marines and i toked it up for old times sake when I went home one time. Just make sure the man don't catch you! LOL! Sometimes you need a relaxer, god knows I need one especially where I work I get so stressed.
If i could toke up with Stevie i'd do it for sure!

[Lala]

Who was the person who said they knew why Lindsey did it, but not Stevie? Why DOES Lindsey do it? (beyond just for fun of course)

Sort of a rabbit trail, but didn't Carol Ann say that his doctors told him to STOP doing drugs once he was diagnosed with epilepsy (and he didn't). Was it coke, or pot too? I'm too lazy to flip through my copy.

[CADreaming]

Sort of a rabbit trail, but didn't Carol Ann say that his doctors told him to STOP doing drugs once he was diagnosed with epilepsy (and he didn't). Was it coke, or pot too? I'm too lazy to flip through my copy.


I'm sure it was coke. And, it's a legitimate guess that he was scared enough to have given up the snort at that time, but somehow I think he continued to partake a little longer...

[StreetAngel86]

i did not kno about the pot smoking in DR...that is so funny
gonna watch it 2night

isn't stevie stoned during the dance?
my friend is convinced she is during GDW :D

[David]

I have never smoked pot. I don't think it's good for me. It scares me, too.

[grace_face]

Oh yeah, some people can't handle it. It screws up their brain. I had a friend back when I was about 19 (she was 17) and we all had a night of tequila and pot, and it was her first time ever trying pot, and she FREAKED OUT!!!! We eventually were forced to call for an ambulance (there was no physical emergency, but she was so insane we had no choice). Ugh...what a total nightmare that night was!!

I myself have always had good experiences with pot.

[JeannieKartis]

Oh yeah, some people can't handle it. It screws up their brain. I had a friend back when I was about 19 (she was 17) and we all had a night of tequila and pot, and it was her first time ever trying pot, and she FREAKED OUT!!!! We eventually were forced to call for an ambulance (there was no physical emergency, but she was so insane we had no choice). Ugh...what a total nightmare that night was!!

I myself have always had good experiences with pot.

I believe her freaking out was probably caused by the tequila :)

[Ghost_Tracker]

Sort of a rabbit trail, but didn't Carol Ann say that his doctors told him to STOP doing drugs once he was diagnosed with epilepsy (and he didn't). Was it coke, or pot too? I'm too lazy to flip through my copy.

Pssst - - This is just opinion but I think it's very possible that he doesn't really have epilepsy - - I've wondered sometimes if he took
too much coke and it triggered a brain seizure. Seems entirely possible to me.

[holidayroad]

I have never smoked pot. I don't think it's good for me. It scares me, too.

Me either! Or used any other illegal drug. I guess I'm a goody-goody! Speaking of Lindsey and marijuana, I have that book that Jenny Boyd wrote (Musicians In Tune) and in it Lindsey talks about pot helping out with the 'creative process'.

[CADreaming]

Pssst - - This is just opinion but I think it's very possible that he doesn't really have epilepsy - - I've wondered sometimes if he took
too much coke and it triggered a brain seizure. Seems entirely possible to me.

ITA. Although, at times he does exhibit the side effects of taking dilantin.

[Lala]

Pssst - - This is just opinion but I think it's very possible that he doesn't really have epilepsy - - I've wondered sometimes if he took
too much coke and it triggered a brain seizure. Seems entirely possible to me.

Definitely makes sense, but you'd think his doctors would've figured that one out pretty quickly

[greendaze5]

I have an audio tape of her in-studio 2001 radio interview (done in Toronto with a radio host named Marilyn Denis) where Stevie talked about quitting smoking. My memory’s fuzzy, but basically she said that her therapy involved her quitting before New Year’s, and she had to make the cigarette ‘her friend’ (yes that’s what she said!) and then figure out why she was friends with the cigarette that she depended on it so badly. I think she also mentioned because her whole family smoked, she started.

Roland (newbie Ledgie)

[Ghost_Tracker]

My memory’s fuzzy


That's apparently contageous! ..... :angel:

[APerfectLie]

Me either! Or used any other illegal drug. I guess I'm a goody-goody! Speaking of Lindsey and marijuana, I have that book that Jenny Boyd wrote (Musicians In Tune) and in it Lindsey talks about pot helping out with the 'creative process'.

Remember, Lindsey never really was a "big drug user". Atleast according to him...:laugh:

[GypsyBlueEyes]

Lindsey does have a tendency to try and distance himself from a lot of the drug use that went on back then :lol:

[michelej1]

Remember, Lindsey never really was a "big drug user". Atleast according to him...:laugh:

He's not the only one who says he wasn't a big drug user -- at least that he didn't use as much as the rest of them. The others confirm that. I mean, if you don't count marijuana.

I don't think John did as much coke as the other 3 either. At least they don't count him in the heavy coke discussions. He chose liquor. And Christine was third in line, doing less coke than Mick and Stevie and more alcohol.

Michele

[petep9000]

Oh yeah, some people can't handle it. It screws up their brain. I had a friend back when I was about 19 (she was 17) and we all had a night of tequila and pot, and it was her first time ever trying pot, and she FREAKED OUT!!!! We eventually were forced to call for an ambulance (there was no physical emergency, but she was so insane we had no choice). Ugh...what a total nightmare that night was!!

I myself have always had good experiences with pot.

it happened to me when I was 19. Horrendous. I still can remember the horror. To this day, when I have panic attacks I am transported back to that bad night and wonder if I unleashed something irreversible back then.

[gypsy83]

this thread has been quite an enjoyable read. hahaa :blob1:

[goldustsongbird]

I have an audio tape of her in-studio 2001 radio interview (done in Toronto with a radio host named Marilyn Denis) where Stevie talked about quitting smoking. My memory’s fuzzy, but basically she said that her therapy involved her quitting before New Year’s, and she had to make the cigarette ‘her friend’ (yes that’s what she said!) and then figure out why she was friends with the cigarette that she depended on it so badly. I think she also mentioned because her whole family smoked, she started.

Roland (newbie Ledgie)

Eww, Merilyn Denis interviewed Stevie? :(

[tilthefirefades]

This has been the greatest thread ever haha :D

Her smoking pot just makes her that much cooler to me, I myself have never had a bad experience with it.

[vivfox]

This has been the greatest thread ever haha :D

Her smoking pot just makes her that much cooler to me, I myself have never had a bad experience with it.

It gave me sleep apnea. I used to think the way you do.
She has asthma. She shouldn't be smoking at all.
Healthwise, weed is worse for your body than cigs, did you know that?
Lecture over.

[tilthefirefades]

It gave me sleep apnea. I used to think the way you do.
She has asthma. She shouldn't be smoking at all.
Healthwise, weed is worse for your body than cigs, did you know that?
Lecture over.

I'm going to have to disagree that they are worse than cigs, completely and totally. But i hate arguing more than anything. So if you want to be right then I will let you. All i'm going to say is elementary school knowledge will tell you otherwise than what you think.

Also, happy birthday!

[vivfox]

I'm going to have to disagree that they are worse than cigs, completely and totally. But i hate arguing more than anything. So if you want to be right then I will let you. All i'm going to say is elementary school knowledge will tell you otherwise than what you think.

Also, happy birthday!

Thank you for the B-Day wishes!

I don't like to argue either and I don't feel the need to be "right." It's all good. It's all open for discussion. The reason weed is worse is because when we smoke it we want to suck as much of the smoke as possible into our lungs. When we smoke cigs, we inhale too, but not as much smoke as we would with a joint. Cig smoke does nothing whereas weed smoke gets you high, so I can see how one would think that is a benefit. However, smoking is bad for your body, no matter which way one looks at it.

[teedeerocks]

i did not kno about the pot smoking in DR...that is so funny
gonna watch it 2night

isn't stevie stoned during the dance?
my friend is convinced she is during GDW :D

They all seemed sober as judges on The Dance IMO.What does everyone else think?

[teedeerocks]

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[FM77]

Cigarettes that is... we know she still likes the wacky weed :lol: . I ask because it seems her voice has improved some since Trouble In Shangri La. I was just listening to some interviews from the Trouble In Shangri La era, and it's very obvious she was still a heavy smoker then... she sounded so gross! But it seems her speaking AND singing voices are both clearer and higher these days. Anyone have the 411? :wavey:

Absolutely no cigarettes.

[welcomechris]

Okay So Here's The "End Dates" for Smoking (For All FM Members)

Stevie - Last Seen Smoking: January 1997
John - Last Seen Smoking: Destiny Rules Documentary
Lindsey - Last Seen Smoking: Destiny Rules Documentary
Mick - Unknown
Christine - Stopped in 1992; Started again in 1997; (Unknown If She Stopped Again or Not)

[michelej1]

Okay So Here's The "End Dates" for Smoking (For All FM Members)

Stevie - Last Seen Smoking: January 1997
John - Last Seen Smoking: Destiny Rules Documentary
Lindsey - Last Seen Smoking: Destiny Rules Documentary
Mick - Unknown
Christine - Stopped in 1992; Started again in 1997; (Unknown If She Stopped Again or Not)

This reminds me of an episode of How I Met Your Mother when we learn the last day that each of the five characters stopped smoking.

Michele

[madeline]

I don't know where people got the idea Stevie quit smoking in 97, she didn't quit for 2 years after that. Anyway I have 2 interviews with Stevie about smoking. In one interview she mentions she smoked 3 packs of kools a day and drinks very strong coffee. In the other interview she says once again that she smokes 3 packs of kools a day, and on December 31, 1999 she stayed up all night and smoked one cigarette after another and drank a lot of whiskey and on January 1, 2000 she slapped on the patch and never looked back. Now she may have relapsed if people saw her smoking in 2003. I also don't see a vocal coach wasting his time working with you if you smoked. Smoking does nothing good for your voice.

[MikeInNV]

I don't know where people got the idea Stevie quit smoking in 97, she didn't quit for 2 years after that. Anyway I have 2 interviews with Stevie about smoking. In one interview she mentions she smoked 3 packs of kools a day and drinks very strong coffee. In the other interview she says once again that she smokes 3 packs of kools a day, and on December 31, 1999 she stayed up all night and smoked one cigarette after another and drank a lot of whiskey and on January 1, 2000 she slapped on the patch and never looked back. Now she may have relapsed if people saw her smoking in 2003. I also don't see a vocal coach wasting his time working with you if you smoked. Smoking does nothing good for your voice.

I remember an interview where she talked about smoking a bunch of cigarettes right before quitting, but I don't remember her providing dates. I thought I read it around the time she was promoting Enchanted. She was performing in Las Vegas on December 31, 1999.

[vivfox]

I also don't see a vocal coach wasting his time working with you if you smoked. Smoking does nothing good for your voice.

I don't see a vocal coach turning down vocal lessons to Stevie Nicks just because she smokes.

[welcomechris]

I don't know where people got the idea Stevie quit smoking in 97, she didn't quit for 2 years after that. Anyway I have 2 interviews with Stevie about smoking. In one interview she mentions she smoked 3 packs of kools a day and drinks very strong coffee. In the other interview she says once again that she smokes 3 packs of kools a day, and on December 31, 1999 she stayed up all night and smoked one cigarette after another and drank a lot of whiskey and on January 1, 2000 she slapped on the patch and never looked back. Now she may have relapsed if people saw her smoking in 2003. I also don't see a vocal coach wasting his time working with you if you smoked. Smoking does nothing good for your voice.

She was at the House of Blues on New Years 1999. She said she quit in 97

[DashingDan]

Harper's Bazaar Nov 1997 issue has a quitting the Kool's on previous New Year's Eve mention.

[Lynseyattwood]

http://s977.photobucket.com/albums/ae256/ragesrocalot/?action=view&current=steviesmokingthepipe.jpg

Stevie hitting the pipe, right next to her partner in crime.

Please could you repost this Pic of Stevie? :D

[singertobe]

Maybe she thinned her rib cage & her upper torso by fasting, & then took treatment for COPD.

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[singertobe]

Here's the Destiny Rules pot incident slowed down... :lol: Thought someone might get a kick out of it. I sure did!

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Interesting! Do you think you could post all of the speedups slowed down? Cuz my DVD player doesn't do that nor does my laptop.
BTW, how do you tell the difference between a weed joint and a cigarette?

[singertobe]

Hmm...no way anyone in the immediate circle new it was in the movie, eh? I doubt that. FM not in control of every single thing they produce or create? I think not. They've got a billion "people" (lawyers, marketing people, etc) who would have gone over every single piece of footage on that DVD so...I'm pretty sure they would know it was in there...I'm surprised that none of those "people" thought to take it out, that's all.

I hope Stevie doesn't have any sort of degenerative arthritis type disease...I think any pot use now is totally recreational, and why the hell not!? It's not a hideous drug. It's fun, it's relaxing, it's a social drug if not taken to real extremes...I myself would gladly sit back and share a joint, pipe or bong with Stevie and anyone else who's around!! :D

Well with Stevie seeming to be obsessed over her figure I would think she'd refrain from a drug that makes you eat more:sorry:

[PenguinHead]

YAY!!! I love Stevie as a smoker. I saw a picture of her smoking and was like, somehow that seems to fit her. I know it's bad for the health, but it seemed to fit her. A girlfriend of mine tried to convince me that she was still on drugs after we watched a couple of videos together one night. I saw her point in one video that's on youtube, but she could have just been really into the moment... I will post video when I find it. I am sure she is all clean, sober, and smoke-free. Surely ;)

P.S.
Why is it everyone thinks that she smokes grass? I would have never pegged her for that.

How could that surprise you? Stevie and Lindsey were teenagers in California at the height of the hippie movement! They were heavily "influenced" musically and othewise by that era. Of all the band members, I suspect, in large, Stevie and Lindsey were the stoners, and the English members were the drinkers.

It's fairly well known that Stevie had a panache for partying far beyond normal bounds. Many personal accounts cited in various books attest to that. Anne and Nancy Wilson spent time with Stevie in the 1970s and were amazed about how much coke she would injest. I'm grateful that she was eventually able to overcome the addictions and live a more sustainable life. While I believe she now lives more healthier than ever before, she may very still inbibe in a little drink and smoke here and there.

Watching the Destiny Rules documentary, I was very surprised that a particular clip made the cut. In a brief shot you see Stevie in the recording studio, sitting at a mixing board, listening to a playback. She takes a hit from a glass bong and blows out a big pillar of smoke. The scene cuts quick.