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GypsyGirl15
01-25-2009, 03:50 PM
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I recently found this video and I just totally love it, because it is ridiculously shippy. What can you guys tell me about this song? How old is it and was it written by Stevie?

CADreaming
01-25-2009, 04:13 PM
Yes, she wrote it and it this version I believe was recorded for TISL. I don't know how old the song is though. Love it!

GypsyGirl15
01-25-2009, 04:14 PM
Yes, she wrote it and it this version I believe was recorded for TISL. I don't know how old the song is though. Love it!

Thanks for the info. Do you have the mp3 by any chance?

DashingDan
01-25-2009, 04:21 PM
This song drives me bananas because I feel that it was so well-on-its-way to being such a powerful song..it's like 75% there. The singing, particularly during the chorus and ending is so powerful and melodic, and the instrumentation is terrific too.

I'll get heat for this, I'm sure, but I feel this is the kind of song that a great producer could say to to her (like she'd listen), "Stevie, go home and come back with stronger versus. Tell the story, give us more, be more direct...".

*sigh* It couldda been a contender.

Still, a favorite lost track.

fleetwoodtrick
01-25-2009, 05:46 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/?yxyzy3tizzm

GypsyGirl15
01-25-2009, 05:47 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/?yxyzy3tizzm

Thanks so much! :thumbsup: Any more TISL demos to share?

fleetwoodtrick
01-25-2009, 05:54 PM
Thanks so much! :thumbsup: Any more TISL demos to share?

Not a problem! And of course I do! I'll hunt around a bit and see what I come up with. My Heart was part of a compliation, so I'll post that... Hmmm... *thinks* :laugh:

GypsyGirl15
01-25-2009, 05:57 PM
Not a problem! And of course I do! I'll hunt around a bit and see what I come up with. My Heart was part of a compliation, so I'll post that... Hmmm... *thinks* :laugh:

Thaaaaanks. I already have a few TISL demos (the compilation you can find on throwndown.net), but I'm always looking for other demos from that era or before. :blob1:

fleetwoodtrick
01-25-2009, 06:16 PM
I just posted a new thread. I have another 2-disc comp. that I'm uploading right now! :D
~Rhiya

DeeGeMe
01-25-2009, 08:51 PM
I love this song. Yeah I agree it's "not quite there" but I think it could be with a bit of tinkering, although I still love it is, in it's bootleg version.

MoonWaterPoet
01-26-2009, 12:25 AM
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I recently found this video and I just totally love it, because it is ridiculously shippy. What can you guys tell me about this song? How old is it and was it written by Stevie?

Thanks Maggie ~ for posting that video, I love how they placed all the cool pictures of Stevie & Lindsey together... like that... it went well with the Song.
Thanks,

Donnie Wayne ~

gold-dusted
01-26-2009, 09:52 PM
What can you guys tell me about this song? How old is it and was it written by Stevie?



The song "My Heart" is on the TISL Safety Copy that I got directly from the WEA Music Company Germany. It was me who circulated the song. The Safety Copy has 16 songs on it, not 13 as it was originally released.

GypsyGirl15
01-27-2009, 09:33 AM
The song "My Heart" is on the TISL Safety Copy that I got directly from the WEA Music Company Germany. It was me who circulated the song. The Safety Copy has 16 songs on it, not 13 as it was originally released.

I wouldn't say that so loud, but thank you so very much. What are the other two songs?

gold-dusted
01-27-2009, 05:32 PM
I wouldn't say that so loud, but thank you so very much. What are the other two songs?

The other two songs are Touched by an Angel and Thrown Down (not the SYW version)...will post the cover of the Safety Copy in a few....

gold-dusted
01-27-2009, 05:39 PM
Here's the Cover of the Safety Copy

http://www.golddustwoman.de/Stevieweapromo.jpg

LukeA
01-27-2009, 06:24 PM
Here's the Cover of the Safety Copy

http://www.golddustwoman.de/Stevieweapromo.jpg

Longer versions of I Miss You, Bombay Sapphire, and Fall From Grace?

This safety copy seems to date from late 2000, when it was still Bombay Sapphire before the added "s" at the end.

gold-dusted
01-28-2009, 08:54 AM
Longer versions of I Miss You, Bombay Sapphire, and Fall From Grace?


Yes, this are longer versions

nightbird28
01-28-2009, 05:30 PM
are the versions of FFG, IMU, and BS different from the original release? Are there extra words or different arrangements?

LukeA
01-29-2009, 04:18 AM
Yes, this are longer versions

Could you please post them? I think some of us would love to hear the differences.

gold-dusted
01-29-2009, 05:33 AM
Could you please post them? I think some of us would love to hear the differences.

No, I will not post them and I can tell you why. As I've thrown out "My Heart" to the fans FOR FREE there were some ****ty people who have put this song on CD and sold it for good money at eBay. This still makes me VERY angry because this was not what I wanted. And even the people would tell me they won't do that I will not share these songs yet. The songs are the same as on the TISL release but just longer with some extra lyrics or arrangements. That's all!

LukeA
01-29-2009, 05:47 AM
No, I will not post them and I can tell you why. As I've thrown out "My Heart" to the fans FOR FREE there were some ****ty people who have put this song on CD and sold it for good money at eBay. This still makes me VERY angry because this was not what I wanted. And even the people would tell me they won't do that I will not share these songs yet. The songs are the same as on the TISL release but just longer with some extra lyrics or arrangements. That's all!

Fair enough.

Say, were you around when I posted the lyrics & clips for TISL five months prior to its release? If you ended up with the safety copy of the album, I'm going to guess you were.

Everything ends up on the Internet eventually. I've posted things to this board that have ended up on bootlegs on eBay (where I absolutely can say for certain that I was their source). Just because others profited off of my generosity doesn't mean I would have done it any differently- whenever I've had something to share that I could share (without getting anyone in trouble, etc.), I have.

gold-dusted
01-29-2009, 05:58 AM
Fair enough.

Say, were you around when I posted the lyrics & clips for TISL five months prior to its release? If you ended up with the safety copy of the album, I'm going to guess you were.

No, to that time I was already sick with cancer and haven't been home very much. So I hadn't the chance to be on internet very often. (You can read this on my About Me page on my website....March '01). I got the Safety Copy two or three years LATER....AFTER the release of TISL. I've bought it from an estate sale of a former Stevie fan.

GoldDustOrphan
01-29-2009, 05:59 AM
As I've thrown out "My Heart" to the fans FOR FREE there were some ****ty people who have put this song on CD and sold it for good money at eBay. This still makes me VERY angry because this was not what I wanted.

The people who exploited your generosity are grotesque. Point me in the right direction so I can dispatch Small Town Sheriff Stevie to bust some knuckles (like she did in her '70s TV movies.)

<a href="http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/rickdunn101/?action=view&current=StevieNicksTVmovie.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/rickdunn101/StevieNicksTVmovie.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

gold-dusted
01-29-2009, 06:05 AM
Everything ends up on the Internet eventually. I've posted things to this board that have ended up on bootlegs on eBay (where I absolutely can say for certain that I was their source). Just because others profited off of my generosity doesn't mean I would have done it any differently- whenever I've had something to share that I could share (without getting anyone in trouble, etc.), I have.

YOU can do what YOU want...this means not that I have to do the same! I've also posted many things for free and I'm a nice person. But it's also my good right to say NO. You're trying to place me in a bad light because I'm not willing to share the TISL Safety Copy songs.

LukeA
01-29-2009, 06:13 AM
YOU can do what YOU want...this means not that I have to do the same! I've also posted many things for free and I'm a nice person. But it's also my good right to say NO. You're trying to place me in a bad light because I'm not willing to share the TISL Safety Copy songs.

I'm not trying to place you in a bad light- its your prerogative, of course. If anything, I can empathize with you. I made a 30 second clip of an unreleased song, and people put the CLIP on bootlegs as an incentive to get people to buy it. How pissed off do you think that made me?

In the end, I made the decision that if I posted it, every informed fan would have it, and it would eventually be all over the place so that any fan could download it- which is exactly what happened. But, as I said- that was my decision, and you're not wrong for yours.

gold-dusted
01-29-2009, 06:25 AM
I'm not trying to place you in a bad light- its your prerogative, of course. If anything, I can empathize with you. I made a 30 second clip of an unreleased song, and people put the CLIP on bootlegs as an incentive to get people to buy it. How pissed off do you think that made me?

In the end, I made the decision that if I posted it, every informed fan would have it, and it would eventually be all over the place so that any fan could download it- which is exactly what happened. But, as I said- that was my decision, and you're not wrong for yours.

Well, I just said that I'm not willing to share them YET...this means not I never will! I totally can understand how you were pissed off seeing the people trying to get money with something you've thrown out for free. This was the same with me with the "My Heart" song. I don't have the nerves anymore to be angry about the **** some people are doing...but if I would give out some more songs for free and I would notice that there are still the same ****ty people around who are trying to get money with it...it would make me angry again. The funny thing is that you know who the ****ty people are who are trying to make money with it *lol*

starshine
01-29-2009, 08:06 PM
I'd like to know who the ****ty people are that are making the $$ off the stuff. This is sad & I do see both sides of the story.....Of course 'if' only this stuff would be released
"offically" than we wouldn't have to worry(Yeah like as 'if' that will happen?LOL).....heck of the many 'hundreds' of songs Stevie is 'suppose' to have written through the yrs like how many do we really have.....has anyone totaled it up. Now you can go Fmac songs of hers or solo songs.....first go the released versions....than of the released versions see how many have alternates/extended versions etc.....now how many truely unreleased songs do we really have?? Than of those unreleased songs how many have different versions or outtakes/or extended versions.....or the same song done in different yrs?? Really it doesn't add up to much considering 'HOW' much she's suppose to have written and locked in the valuets?? I do wonder....other than her actual journels that she gets her songs from.....I do really wonder how many songs are truely unreleased and NOT ever heard of before??? This is something to just ponder....does anyone wonder about this too??? IMO anyway.....I'd love to hear any thoughts in regards to this......
I do love the song 'My Heart' ...I think its one of her best songs ....unreleased songs that is........what a shame too......:shrug:
Now when I say 'supposed' to have written cause well none of us really know except what Stevie has stated in various interviews over all these years.......so it really is hard to tell.....unless you've seen or heard them.....no offence just some thoughts......:shrug:

gldstwmn
02-01-2009, 12:25 PM
Thrown Down
<a href='http://www.mediafire.com/?cjtydqvjmoz'>http://www.mediafire.com/?cjtydqvjmoz</a>

FFG
<a href='http://www.mediafire.com/?znucwmddmmn'>http://www.mediafire.com/?znucwmddmmn</a>

I Miss You
<a href='http://www.mediafire.com/?mzjx42hflzl'>http://www.mediafire.com/?mzjx42hflzl</a>

Bombay Sapphires Alt
<a href='http://www.mediafire.com/?znsgmil9jzw'>http://www.mediafire.com/?znsgmil9jzw</a>

jrpjr
02-01-2009, 03:50 PM
No, I will not post them and I can tell you why. As I've thrown out "My Heart" to the fans FOR FREE there were some ****ty people who have put this song on CD and sold it for good money at eBay. This still makes me VERY angry because this was not what I wanted. And even the people would tell me they won't do that I will not share these songs yet. The songs are the same as on the TISL release but just longer with some extra lyrics or arrangements. That's all!


with all due respect...what right do you have to be angry over something YOU should not even own...HELLO?? they are all illegal bootlegs unless the artist themselves okay's the release. i have heard it from stevie herself..she thinks ALL the people who own as well as share "her " (i say her because she wrote them and owns them) unreleased music are "disgusting." i can understand why you won't post them, but don't say you have "thrown out 'My Heart' for free." and refer to the people as "****ty" when you have no right to own it anyway. that's like someone geting arrested for selling sugar to someone instead of cocaine. don't try to look like some do gooder when you are not .beleive me...i have plenty of stevie/fm as well as other groups bootlegs but i certainly don't feel i have the right to get angry at someone if they sell a copy of something that i should't have anyway. again...with all due respect ...you need to look at what you are saying here and probably not brag about all the bootlegs you do have ...just keep them to yourself. Oh and my the way i had asked you before about your pictures of stevie on your site...about blowing them up to be downloaded...you told me you won't allow this "because you have worked hard at geting them and people are stealing them from you." Again...did you take these pictures?? if not you don't own them..nobody can be stealing from you unless you in fact you "own" the object(s) you are referring to. It's a bit "twisted." P.S. This is not an angry response so PLEASE nobody get upset..it is just food for thought... if you in fact took the picture and own the copywrites to the music..then i appologize from the bottom of "My Heart." otherwise..........

gold-dusted
02-01-2009, 04:25 PM
with all due respect...what right do you have to be angry over something YOU should not even own...HELLO?? they are all illegal bootlegs unless the artist themselves okay's the release. i have heard it from stevie herself..she thinks ALL the people who own as well as share "her " (i say her because she wrote them and owns them) unreleased music are "disgusting." i can understand why you won't post them, but don't say you have "thrown out 'My Heart' for free." and refer to the people as "****ty" when you have no right to own it anyway. that's like someone geting arrested for selling sugar to someone instead of cocaine. don't try to look like some do gooder when you are not .beleive me...i have plenty of stevie/fm as well as other groups bootlegs but i certainly don't feel i have the right to get angry at someone if they sell a copy of something that i should't have anyway. again...with all due respect ...you need to look at what you are saying here and probably not brag about all the bootlegs you do have ...just keep them to yourself. Oh and my the way i had asked you before about your pictures of stevie on your site...about blowing them up to be downloaded...you told me you won't allow this "because you have worked hard at geting them and people are stealing them from you." Again...did you take these pictures?? if not you don't own them..nobody can be stealing from you unless you in fact you "own" the object(s) you are referring to. It's a bit "twisted." P.S. This is not an angry response so PLEASE nobody get upset..it is just food for thought... if you in fact took the picture and own the copywrites to the music..then i appologize from the bottom of "My Heart." otherwise..........

Well, I normally wouldn't answer to such an UNFRIENDLY message you've posted. But I want to state some clear things to YOU....about "MY" photos on my website....I NEVER ever said that I'm the owner of these photos or have taken the photos myself. But 70% of these photos on my website are ORIGINAL photos I've bought directly from the photographer or are original vintage prints I've bought at eBay. 30% of these photos were traded with some very nice Stevie fans (I'm NOT talking about you). Many of these photos can be viewed on my website only and nowhere else. I've paid a little fortune through the years of collecting to get them together for my personal collection. So you can't expect from me that I'm making high-resolutions of the photos for which I paid little money so that YOU GUY can download it for free and maybe making prints of these to sell at eBay??? And before you are opening your BIG MOUTH, maybe you should take a look at the website. Now there are photos available that can be downloaded in bigger size and this now for weeks.
And one note to the "****ty" people....I'm talking about the ones who are downloading rare songs to sell them for big money at eBay. Since you are freaking out about this...well, maybe it was YOU who did it???
And last but not least....think first and READ CAREFULLY before you complain!

gold-dusted
02-01-2009, 04:35 PM
Oh and my the way i had asked you before about your pictures of stevie on your site...about blowing them up to be downloaded...

Oh, and by the way, if your name is JOHN, then maybe I should post the message here I got privately from you! And what my response was! Didn't I tell you that there's now a monthly Stevie photo available to be downloaded in a bigger size??? And YOU have the nerves to complain?? WOW!

jrpjr
02-01-2009, 05:14 PM
Oh, and by the way, if your name is JOHN, then maybe I should post the message here I got privately from you! And what my response was! Didn't I tell you that there's now a monthly Stevie photo available to be downloaded in a bigger size??? And YOU have the nerves to complain?? WOW!

prefaced everything w/"with all due respect.." yes, u did say you would make a picture downloadable..however the ones YOU choose...again..i wasn't trying to upset you or anyone else ..it's just like u r acting like you are the owner of this "downloaded' material..you are not...you are obviously very angry so please accept my appolgies. i will not comment on your posts nor visit your site again.

gold-dusted
02-01-2009, 05:22 PM
Really it doesn't add up to much considering 'HOW' much she's suppose to have written and locked in the valuets?? I do wonder....other than her actual journels that she gets her songs from.....I do really wonder how many songs are truely unreleased and NOT ever heard of before??? This is something to just ponder....does anyone wonder about this too??? :

Well, I think...and this is my opinion...no fan can imagine how many songs Stevie might have written during her long career. It must be hundreds or more. Few times ago someone posted some Stevie song titles that can be found on the Copyright Site and there were some songs titles we (the fans) didn't know of. I remember that Stevie herself said in an interview that she's writing alot and even these are not complete songs there might be tons of verses in her journals or on pieces of papers or whatever. When doing a record many artists are writing alot of songs and at least only few songs will be put on the record for release. I remember that the band Coldplay said that they had 60 songs for their second album release and at least they had to chose 11 songs out of 60! So I guess that Stevie is also recording some extra songs...maybe 20 or 30....for each new album and we only hear the ones who are officially released...(and the ones who are not officially released :D)....

crystal baller
02-01-2009, 05:29 PM
i have heard it from stevie herself..she thinks ALL the people who own as well as share "her " (i say her because she wrote them and owns them) unreleased music are "disgusting."
I'm shocked and saddened to read this, is there a video or magazine article on the net with Stevie saying this?

gold-dusted
02-01-2009, 05:35 PM
prefaced everything w/"with all due respect.." yes, u did say you would make a picture downloadable..however the ones YOU choose...again..i wasn't trying to upset you or anyone else ..it's just like u r acting like you are the owner of this "downloaded' material..you are not...you are obviously very angry so please accept my appolgies. i will not comment on your posts nor visit your site again.

I'm NOT acting like I'm the owner of this "downloaded" material....if I would act this way I wouldn't offer pictures in a bigger size on my website (or mp3 songs before). What you're saying makes no sense to me, sorry....and yes, I'm angry. And do you want to know why?? You've written to me privately...asking for bigger images...I've told you that I've spend a lot of money for the photos on my website and that I don't want to post them in bigger sizes BUT will offer monthly photos to be downloaded. YOUR answer was that you can understand where I'm coming from and that it's very nice to offer the monthly pics. Also your blah blah...good work about my website. And THEN...YOU have the nerves to fall behind my back and complaining in this thread about the photos?? THIS is insidious!

gold-dusted
02-01-2009, 05:38 PM
I'm shocked and saddened to read this, is there a video or magazine article on the net with Stevie saying this?

I'm not really sure but I think Stevie posted this message on the "Ask Stevie" page on her official website (Nicksfix)

starshine
02-01-2009, 05:44 PM
Well, I think...and this is my opinion...no fan can imagine how many songs Stevie might have written during her long career. It must be hundreds or more. Few times ago someone posted some Stevie song titles that can be found on the Copyright Site and there were some songs titles we (the fans) didn't know of. I remember that Stevie herself said in an interview that she's writing alot and even these are not complete songs there might be tons of verses in her journals or on pieces of papers or whatever. When doing a record many artists are writing alot of songs and at least only few songs will be put on the record for release. I remember that the band Coldplay said that they had 60 songs for their second album release and at least they had to chose 11 songs out of 60! So I guess that Stevie is also recording some extra songs...maybe 20 or 30....for each new album and we only hear the ones who are officially released...(and the ones who are not officially released :D)....Hi Melanie: thanks for your thoughts. Being a fan of Stevie's since the late 80's ...even with the old fanzines and all the Net info....its really so hard to say what offically unreleased songs that we don't know about....I do recall for like RAL/Mirror she said she'd paired songs down many times for Producers.....sadly I guess we'll really not ever know how many she has written that are total and complete songs that is. Like you said alot can be unfinished too. Sad but so true. Thanks for your insight. Always appriciated too!!:thumbsup::nod:

gold-dusted
02-01-2009, 06:09 PM
I'm shocked and saddened to read this, is there a video or magazine article on the net with Stevie saying this?

You can see Stevie's handwritten answer on the "Ask Stevie" page, question No. 6 from Bill Pinto

LukeA
02-02-2009, 02:16 AM
Thrown Down
<a href='http://www.mediafire.com/?cjtydqvjmoz'>http://www.mediafire.com/?cjtydqvjmoz</a>

FFG
<a href='http://www.mediafire.com/?znucwmddmmn'>http://www.mediafire.com/?znucwmddmmn</a>

I Miss You
<a href='http://www.mediafire.com/?mzjx42hflzl'>http://www.mediafire.com/?mzjx42hflzl</a>

Bombay Sapphires Alt
<a href='http://www.mediafire.com/?znsgmil9jzw'>http://www.mediafire.com/?znsgmil9jzw</a>

Thank you for posting these.. (although I think I Miss You is the album version- I couldn't tell any differences, and the track length is the same)

That Bombay Sapphire alternate take... just goes on and on and on. I was looking over my notes about the album/this song earlier tonight- I had forgotten that her original lyrics were somewhat different than was eventually released (beyond the title change with the added "s").

trackaghost
02-02-2009, 04:27 AM
Thank you for posting these.. (although I think I Miss You is the album version- I couldn't tell any differences, and the track length is the same)


Here's I Miss You, all that's different is there's an extended instrumental piece in the middle. It's about 15-20 seconds longer than the album version.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?djzzjhygyim

LukeA
02-02-2009, 05:09 AM
Here's I Miss You, all that's different is there's an extended instrumental piece in the middle. It's about 15-20 seconds longer than the album version.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?djzzjhygyim

Thank you!

gldstwmn
02-02-2009, 02:41 PM
Thank you for posting these.. (although I think I Miss You is the album version- I couldn't tell any differences, and the track length is the same)

That Bombay Sapphire alternate take... just goes on and on and on. I was looking over my notes about the album/this song earlier tonight- I had forgotten that her original lyrics were somewhat different than was eventually released (beyond the title change with the added "s").

I love the additional lyrics in the alternate Bombay Sapphires. In fact, whenever I put this song on a CD, I use this version.
All of these tracks came from a disc in my collection labeled "TISL Acetate." I also have one that says "TISL Final Mixes." I'm not sure what the difference is. Perhaps I got the discs mixed up and put them in the wrong envelopes. But the running order of my TISL Acetate is the same as the safety copy someone posted above. So I assumed I Miss You was the longer version.
So many boots, so little time.

LukeA
02-02-2009, 05:44 PM
I love the additional lyrics in the alternate Bombay Sapphires. In fact, whenever I put this song on a CD, I use this version.
All of these tracks came from a disc in my collection labeled "TISL Acetate." I also have one that says "TISL Final Mixes." I'm not sure what the difference is. Perhaps I got the discs mixed up and put them in the wrong envelopes. But the running order of my TISL Acetate is the same as the safety copy someone posted above. So I assumed I Miss You was the longer version.
So many boots, so little time.

Are there any alternate versions of Bombay Sapphire where she says "for the call of the wind"?

Here's the original lyrics (other slight differences too)

--

11. Bombay Sapphire (4:04)

Words and Music by Stevie Nicks

You--beloved
Were to me--everything
That love stood for
To love one another for awhile
Was enough--
It was all that I lived for
How can I go on without you
How can I go on--without you
I tell myself--this time
I'm going to have to--
Move on

Chorus:
It's like
Bombay sapphire
Hey I can take you higher
Whatever you desire
I can mend your heart

It is green
It is aqua marine
It is colors I have never seen
I can see past you--to the white sand...
It is blue
It is not about you
It is all true
You know--who I am

And she says, the sea never changes--not really
It is the constant in my life
I always return here
To the flash of those colors
Through every window
The wind through the night
Here I am dramatic
Here I am not waiting
For the call of the wind

Chorus

It's like purple haze
It's there every day
Its passion never fades
You know what I mean

Produced by Stevie Nicks
Drums: Vinnie Colaiuta
Bass and Guitars: Al Ortiz
Keyboards: Stevie Nicks
Percussion: Lenny Castro
Guest vocals: Macy Gray
Background vocals: Sharon Celani and Lori Nicks

Engineered by Brian Scheuble
Pro Tools Engineer: Buddy Judge
Mixed by Chris Lord-Alge
Recorded at The Dog House, Los Angeles, CA
Mixed at Image Recording Studios, Los Angeles, CA

jannieC
02-02-2009, 07:09 PM
If someone wants to buy photographs from the actual photographer who took the pictures, by all means, hoard them away. I can understand that, to an extent. I don't quite understand the, "look at what I have but I'm not going to share..." mentality, but whatever.

However, the bootleg/demo thing makes no sense to me. These songs belong to Stevie, right? Can someone explain to me the point of having these songs but not sharing them? I mean, telling people they exist, that you have them, but not letting anyone listen to them? What is the reasoning behind this?

gold-dusted
02-02-2009, 07:18 PM
If someone wants to buy photographs from the actual photographer who took the pictures, by all means, hoard them away. I can understand that, to an extent. I don't quite understand the, "look at what I have but I'm not going to share..." mentality, but whatever.

However, the bootleg/demo thing makes no sense to me. These songs belong to Stevie, right? Can someone explain to me the point of having these songs but not sharing them? I mean, telling people they exist, that you have them, but not letting anyone listen to them? What is the reasoning behind this?

Well, I'm sure you're talking about me. Well, I DO share the photos as thumbnails so that the fans can take a look at it. But who says that I HAVE to show them all as big images?? But it looks like I can say WHAT I want I'm not right anyways. So, I can close my website so that NO ONE ever knows how many great photos exists on Mrs. Nicks...

jannieC
02-02-2009, 07:22 PM
Well, I'm sure you're talking about me. Well, I DO share the photos as thumbnails so that the fans can take a look at it. But who says that I HAVE to show them all as big images?? But it looks like I can say WHAT I want I'm not right anyways. So, I can close my website so that NO ONE ever knows how many great photos exists on Mrs. Nicks...

Did I not begin my post by stating that I understood the concept behind the photos? I did. I am asking about the demos/bootlegs.

gold-dusted
02-02-2009, 07:28 PM
Did I not begin my post by stating that I understood the concept behind the photos? I did. I am asking about the demos/bootlegs.

I said that I'm not willing to share them yet. I never said I never will share them. But now the problem is resolved so why should I explain about it? I've shared the "My Heart" song of which I knew NO ONE knew about this song before I've posted it. I've also posted other mp3s like the live version w/Bob Dylan "I Shall Be Released". So I'm definitely not a person who is not sharing something. And I don't want to fight for my mentality anymore...I really have other serious problems as this peanut.

jrpjr
02-02-2009, 07:42 PM
If someone wants to buy photographs from the actual photographer who took the pictures, by all means, hoard them away. I can understand that, to an extent. I don't quite understand the, "look at what I have but I'm not going to share..." mentality, but whatever.

However, the bootleg/demo thing makes no sense to me. These songs belong to Stevie, right? Can someone explain to me the point of having these songs but not sharing them? I mean, telling people they exist, that you have them, but not letting anyone listen to them? What is the reasoning behind this?

This individual is very angry as you can see by my previous interactions w/her. I continue to stand by the fact that her website has a lot of great pictures ...but this constant bragging and stating repeatedly: "I'm not going to 'GIVE' these things away," is what is upsetting to alot of people...it's like dangeling a cookie in front of a puppy. she just ain't getting it. read the interactions i had w/her yesterday...very hostile. I capitalize words to emphysize the actual word...she is clearly screaming at me. I have the power to block....which i did..thanks for that ability.

gold-dusted
02-02-2009, 07:43 PM
A lot of people knew about My Heart before you...I've had it for a bit now. I wasn't around here back in 2001 but I'm assuming it got leaked around that time.


Really?? So if alot of people knew about it before me....so why wasn't it posted?? As I've posted the title of the song NO ONE knew about it. And I've posted it here....

nailatixela
02-02-2009, 07:44 PM
Really?? So if alot of people knew about it before me....so why wasn't it posted?? As I've posted the title of the song NO ONE knew about it. And I've posted it here....

I deleted my post before you posted and quoted me - I was getting this confused with another song. I realized my error within seconds - you're fast! Sorry - don't get angry. :xoxo:

gold-dusted
02-02-2009, 07:45 PM
This individual is very angry as you can see by my previous interactions w/her. I continue to stand by the fact that her website has a lot of great pictures ...but this constant bragging and stating repeatedly: "I'm not going to 'GIVE' these things away," is what is upsetting to alot of people...it's like dangeling a cookie in front of a puppy. she just ain't getting it. read the interactions i had w/her yesterday...very hostile. I capitalize words to emphysize the actual word...she is clearly screaming at me. I have the power to block....which i did..thanks for that ability.


YOU really should think about what YOU are saying. You are insidous and I'm still standing for this!

gold-dusted
02-02-2009, 07:46 PM
I deleted my post before you posted and quoted me - I was getting this confused with another song. I realized my error within seconds - you're fast! Sorry - don't get angry. :xoxo:

Accepted! I remember that someone mentioned unreleased material from the TISL album. I'm not sure but it can be that someone named "My Heart" title and I just said it exists....so I had nothing else to do as to post it....

jannieC
02-02-2009, 08:00 PM
This is an odd and pointless debate- let's drop it.

gold-dusted
02-02-2009, 08:06 PM
This is an odd and pointless debate- let's drop it.

I was going to give it up but when someone is trying to fall behind my back...then I can fight for my rights. It's NOT nice to fall behind someone's back and THIS GUY has the face to complain? WOW!

bellagypsy79
02-03-2009, 09:58 AM
No, to that time I was already sick with cancer and haven't been home very much. So I hadn't the chance to be on internet very often. (You can read this on my About Me page on my website....March '01). I got the Safety Copy two or three years LATER....AFTER the release of TISL. I've bought it from an estate sale of a former Stevie fan.


I am sorry that you were sick. How are you feeling now? Hope things are better for you.:wavey:

bellagypsy79
02-03-2009, 10:11 AM
I'd like to know who the ****ty people are that are making the $$ off the stuff. This is sad & I do see both sides of the story.....Of course 'if' only this stuff would be released
"offically" than we wouldn't have to worry(Yeah like as 'if' that will happen?LOL).....heck of the many 'hundreds' of songs Stevie is 'suppose' to have written through the yrs like how many do we really have.....has anyone totaled it up. Now you can go Fmac songs of hers or solo songs.....first go the released versions....than of the released versions see how many have alternates/extended versions etc.....now how many truely unreleased songs do we really have?? Than of those unreleased songs how many have different versions or outtakes/or extended versions.....or the same song done in different yrs?? Really it doesn't add up to much considering 'HOW' much she's suppose to have written and locked in the valuets?? I do wonder....other than her actual journels that she gets her songs from.....I do really wonder how many songs are truely unreleased and NOT ever heard of before??? This is something to just ponder....does anyone wonder about this too??? IMO anyway.....I'd love to hear any thoughts in regards to this......
I do love the song 'My Heart' ...I think its one of her best songs ....unreleased songs that is........what a shame too......:shrug:
Now when I say 'supposed' to have written cause well none of us really know except what Stevie has stated in various interviews over all these years.......so it really is hard to tell.....unless you've seen or heard them.....no offence just some thoughts......:shrug:

I know that this discussion is none of my buisness but I just wanted to say thank you to all the Ledgies who post demos, outtakes, photos all kinds of stevie stuff on this site. I am a Stevie collector and I don't have that much stuff (cd's I mean). I am really greatfull to come to a website and see the newest downloads that are being shared by everyone. I am sorry that I can't do the same. My computer is old, and it won't let me do anything that I want to do, so I always have to wait till I get to my mothers and use hers (when I can). Plus I hardly have anything of Stevie's that are demos and stuff like that. Thank you to everyone who participates and posts stuff to share with other fans. And it's ok if someone doesn't want to post their stuff. They have their reasons why, but at least we can be happy for them that they do have something and they are sharing with us that they are proud to own something so valuble and precious to them. I love to hear peoples stories and stuff they own, when they got it etc. I love talking to people and hearing their Stevie stories. I love stories period. I guess it's cause I am a writer, and I want to be inspired. Sorry for busting in on a conversation that wasn't any of my business, I just wanted to say thanks to everyone. Thank you for helping me make my Stevie collection grow. I love listening to them in my car.:wavey:

gold-dusted
02-03-2009, 10:30 AM
I am sorry that you were sick. How are you feeling now? Hope things are better for you.:wavey:

Hi Jackie,
thanks for your sympathy. Well, to be honest things are not going well for me at the moment. I'm sick again for over one year now and now I have to file an application for a pension because my doctor says I can't work with these healthy issues I have. This means I will have very less money when I do get the pension. But I'm happy that I'm still alive. I'm always saying myself that there are people out there who are more badly off as I am. The website I'm working on is a nice turning away from my problems. I will add more pages to look at when I'm feeling ok. I'm also thinking about to make a "Giveaway" page because I do have some nice originals photos and stuff on Stevie that I didn't sell at eBay and that I want to give to fans for their personal collection. I have many ideas and I hope the fans will enjoy the website.

bellagypsy79
02-03-2009, 05:13 PM
Hi Jackie,
thanks for your sympathy. Well, to be honest things are not going well for me at the moment. I'm sick again for over one year now and now I have to file an application for a pension because my doctor says I can't work with these healthy issues I have. This means I will have very less money when I do get the pension. But I'm happy that I'm still alive. I'm always saying myself that there are people out there who are more badly off as I am. The website I'm working on is a nice turning away from my problems. I will add more pages to look at when I'm feeling ok. I'm also thinking about to make a "Giveaway" page because I do have some nice originals photos and stuff on Stevie that I didn't sell at eBay and that I want to give to fans for their personal collection. I have many ideas and I hope the fans will enjoy the website.


you are in my prayers. I really like your website, and I love your photos. The "giveaway" thing sounds like fun!:wavey:

starshine
02-03-2009, 05:30 PM
I know that this discussion is none of my buisness but I just wanted to say thank you to all the Ledgies who post demos, outtakes, photos all kinds of stevie stuff on this site. I am a Stevie collector and I don't have that much stuff (cd's I mean). I am really greatfull to come to a website and see the newest downloads that are being shared by everyone. I am sorry that I can't do the same. My computer is old, and it won't let me do anything that I want to do, so I always have to wait till I get to my mothers and use hers (when I can). Plus I hardly have anything of Stevie's that are demos and stuff like that. Thank you to everyone who participates and posts stuff to share with other fans. And it's ok if someone doesn't want to post their stuff. They have their reasons why, but at least we can be happy for them that they do have something and they are sharing with us that they are proud to own something so valuble and precious to them. I love to hear peoples stories and stuff they own, when they got it etc. I love talking to people and hearing their Stevie stories. I love stories period. I guess it's cause I am a writer, and I want to be inspired. Sorry for busting in on a conversation that wasn't any of my business, I just wanted to say thanks to everyone. Thank you for helping me make my Stevie collection grow. I love listening to them in my car.:wavey:Jackie: did you have a question or something since you used my quote in your comment? If not thats ok...don't feel bad I don't know how to upload things either. I'm a slow learner. Take care.....:)

starshine
02-03-2009, 05:36 PM
Hi Jackie,
thanks for your sympathy. Well, to be honest things are not going well for me at the moment. I'm sick again for over one year now and now I have to file an application for a pension because my doctor says I can't work with these healthy issues I have. This means I will have very less money when I do get the pension. But I'm happy that I'm still alive. I'm always saying myself that there are people out there who are more badly off as I am. The website I'm working on is a nice turning away from my problems. I will add more pages to look at when I'm feeling ok. I'm also thinking about to make a "Giveaway" page because I do have some nice originals photos and stuff on Stevie that I didn't sell at eBay and that I want to give to fans for their personal collection. I have many ideas and I hope the fans will enjoy the website.Hi Melanie: I do hope you start to feel better. I won something on ebay from you a couple of years ago. I think it was you. Please let us know how you are ok. I enjoy your website too (have it saved)....the giveaway sounds cool also. My thoughts & prayers are with you. Sue :angel:

gold-dusted
02-03-2009, 06:19 PM
you are in my prayers. I really like your website, and I love your photos. The "giveaway" thing sounds like fun!:wavey:

Thank You! Well, the "giveaways" are double stuff that I have in my collection and that I couldn't get rid off at eBay. These are nice and I don't want to throw them away. So I like to give them to fans who can't spend too much money on Stevie stuff or who don't have the items. I've just added a the "Stevie and her blue lamp" page to my website. I thought there were more Stevie with lamp pics but this are the ones I have so far. Enjoy!

gold-dusted
02-03-2009, 06:21 PM
Hi Melanie: I do hope you start to feel better. I won something on ebay from you a couple of years ago. I think it was you. Please let us know how you are ok. I enjoy your website too (have it saved)....the giveaway sounds cool also. My thoughts & prayers are with you. Sue :angel:

Thanks! Yes, I'm sure that I've met you before....I've met alot of nice Stevie fans the past 25 years. Thanks for visiting my website :xoxo: