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David
01-25-2009, 11:50 AM
I know that "The Second Time" doesn't get a lot of comment from the mob, but is there a more beautifully delicate, ultimately heartbreaking ballad on any Fleetwood Mac album?

"The Second Time" is the emotional pinnacle of Fleetwood Mac's historic legacy.

gldstwmn
01-25-2009, 12:07 PM
What the hell is this song about?

wheart
01-25-2009, 12:51 PM
It is an exceptional song. I have always loved it the minute I heard it. It's definitely in my top 10 FM/Stevie song list. I"ve said this before but I think it would be amazing live!! The audience may not be familiar with it at first, but I'm sure they would grow to love it...."she could never look back..."

nicksphan
01-25-2009, 01:48 PM
I LOVE that song...very overlooked and it would be beautiful live

nailatixela
01-25-2009, 02:55 PM
I also really love The Second Time. :)

DavidMn
01-25-2009, 04:26 PM
One of my favorites as well!:)

vermicious knid
01-25-2009, 06:13 PM
It's been at least a year and a half since I've listened to this song.

mylittledemon
01-25-2009, 06:33 PM
Never even heard of it. What album was it supposed to be on?

Nicks Fan
01-25-2009, 07:06 PM
Never even heard of it. What album was it supposed to be on?

It is the last song on the Behind the Mask Album

Matt

mylittledemon
01-25-2009, 08:41 PM
It is the last song on the Behind the Mask Album

Matt

Ahh. No wonder. I never listen to that album. Although I do like "Affairs of the Heart"

Glittermoondust
01-25-2009, 10:33 PM
I absolutely LOVE this song and always have...... I remember it being discussed a while back though and there were a lot of haters for the song so I'm surprised so many are saying they love it........... :woohoo:

HejiraNYC
01-26-2009, 09:15 AM
I think this song misses the mark by just a few inches. For some reason I always get caught up on the awkward/clumsy phrasing of "...that woman used to, uh... Hollywood living..." And there are too many of those "dream-feeling-memory" phrases mashed together to make any sense. But what finally kills it for me is when the cheesy synth comes in after the second chorus. Otherwise, it's a heartfelt, moving song. Perhaps this is one of those instances where Lindsey would have been able to shape Stevie's raw material into perfection.

David
01-26-2009, 11:31 AM
I think Vito wrote the chord progression, which is what makes it so beautiful to me. Nothing spectacular in that department, but a nice progression incorporating a dominant 7. It used to be bittersweet, but now it's just sweet.

louielouie2000
01-26-2009, 12:14 PM
I'm glad to finally see some people posting positive things about this song. I think it's a great work of art the way I think When I See You Again is a great work of art. Both songs are about hitting bottom, total heartbreak, etc... and you can tell in the way Stevie sang them and in the way they were arranged and produced, that Stevie was HURTING. They're tremendous snapshots of defining moments in time in her career... even if they aren't necessarily easy pills to swallow. I agree the Second Time would definitely shine much brighter live than it ever would in it's studio version.

Regarding what it's about: I suspect it's about her hitting the reset button with Fleetwood Mac following Lindsey's dramatic departure in 1987. And that's why I love the song... when you view it's context... it's kinda sad and heartbreaking. Much like When I See You Again is.

TrueFaith77
01-26-2009, 01:54 PM
I'm glad to finally see some people posting positive things about this song. I think it's a great work of art the way I think When I See You Again is a great work of art. Both songs are about hitting bottom, total heartbreak, etc... and you can tell in the way Stevie sang them and in the way they were arranged and produced, that Stevie was HURTING. They're tremendous snapshots of defining moments in time in her career... even if they aren't necessarily easy pills to swallow. I agree the Second Time would definitely shine much brighter live than it ever would in it's studio version.

Regarding what it's about: I suspect it's about her hitting the reset button with Fleetwood Mac following Lindsey's dramatic departure in 1987. And that's why I love the song... when you view it's context... it's kinda sad and heartbreaking. Much like When I See You Again is.


:lol:



(sorry i had to)

carrie721
01-26-2009, 02:48 PM
i would bet my truck that stevie doesn't even remember this song.

trackaghost
01-26-2009, 03:01 PM
i would bet my truck that stevie doesn't even remember this song.


Klonopin. That's all I'm saying.

This song just reminds me of the Rock Steady special on Fleetwood Mac from 1990 where every time the camera cut to Stevie a mist (or maybe it was chiffon) suddenly came in front of the camera. I suspect the Vaseline on the camera lens (softer focus for Stevie, you see) reflected her Klonopin'd state of mind back then.

carrie721
01-26-2009, 03:03 PM
Klonopin. That's all I'm saying.

how dare you diss the goddess!

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This song just reminds me of the Rock Steady special on Fleetwood Mac from 1990 where every time the camera cut to Stevie a mist (or maybe it was chiffon) suddenly came in front of the camera. I suspect the Vaseline on the camera lens (softer focus for Stevie, you see) reflected her Klonopin'd state of mind back then.

that's where you're wrong sharon. stevie glows. and is naturally fuzzy.

trackaghost
01-26-2009, 03:13 PM
how dare you diss the goddess!

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that's where you're wrong sharon. stevie glows. and is naturally fuzzy.

I'm sorry :( I meant Klonopin in the best possible way of course!

I've found a picture from the show! Her natural fuzziness shines through.

carrie721
01-26-2009, 03:19 PM
^ that's exactly what stevie looked like when i saw her in '05!

Villavic
01-26-2009, 03:23 PM
i would bet my truck that stevie doesn't even remember this song.

I like the song, but I guess it would have been more beautiful if it was produced by Lindsey & Richard. Besides, Stevie's voice was not at her best that year.

HejiraNYC
01-26-2009, 03:24 PM
I want a Stevie porta-fog machine on me 24/7!