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gldstwmn
12-14-2008, 05:08 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html

(CNN) -- President Bush made a farewell visit Sunday to Baghdad, Iraq, where he met with Iraqi leaders and was targeted by an angry Iraqi man, who jumped up and threw shoes at Bush during a news conference.

Bush ducked, and the shoes, thrown one at a time, sailed past his head during the news conference with Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki in his palace in the heavily fortified Green Zone.

Throwing shoes at someone, or sitting so that the bottom of a shoe faces another person, is considered an insult among Muslims.

The man was dragged out screaming after throwing the shoes.

As the man continued to scream from another room, Bush said: "That was a size 10 shoe he threw at me, you may want to know."

Bush had been lauding the conclusion of a security pact with Iraq as journalists looked on. Watch Bush duck the shoe

"So what if the guy threw his shoe at me?" Bush told a reporter in response to a question about the incident.

"Let me talk about the guy throwing his shoe. It's one way to gain attention. It's like going to a political rally and having people yell at you. It's like driving down the street and having people not gesturing with all five fingers.

"It's a way for people to draw attention. I don't know what the guy's cause is. But one thing is for certain. He caused you to ask me a question about it. I didn't feel the least bit threatened by it.

"These journalists here were very apologetic. They ... said this doesn't represent the Iraqi people, but that's what happens in free societies where people try to draw attention to themselves."

Bush then directed his comments to the security pact, which he and al-Maliki were preparing to sign, hailing it as "a major achievement" but cautioning that "there is more work to be done."

"All this basically says is we made good progress, and we will continue to work together to achieve peace," Bush said.

Bush's trip was to celebrate the conclusion of the security pact, called the Strategic Framework Agreement and the Status of Forces Agreement, the White House said.

The pact will replace a U.N. mandate for the U.S. presence in Iraq that expires at the end of this year. The agreement, reached after months of negotiations, sets June 30, 2009, as the deadline for U.S. combat troops to withdraw from all Iraqi cities and towns. The date for all U.S. troops to leave Iraq is December 31, 2011.

Bush called the passage of the pact "a way forward to help the Iraqi people realize the blessings of a free society."

Bush said the work "hasn't been easy, but it has been necessary for American security, Iraqi hope and world peace."

Bush landed at Baghdad International Airport on Sunday and traveled by helicopter to meet with President Jalal Talabani and his two vice presidents at Talabani's palace outside the Green Zone.

It marked the first time he has been outside the heavily fortified Green Zone in Baghdad without being on a military base.

The visit was Bush's fourth since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003.

Afterward, Talabani praised his U.S. counterpart as a "great friend for the Iraqi people" and the man "who helped us to liberate our country and to reach this day, which we have democracy, human rights, and prosperity gradually in our country."

Talabani said he and Bush, who is slated to leave office next month, had spoken "very frankly and friendly" and expressed the hope that the two would remain friends even "back in Texas."

For his part, Bush said he had come to admire Talabani and his vice presidents "for their courage and for their determination to succeed."

As the U.S. and Iraqi national anthems played and Iraqi troops looked on, he and the Iraqi president walked along a red carpet. Watch President Bush and Iraq's president walk the red carpet »


In remarks to reporters, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, who traveled with Bush, described the situation in Iraq as "in a transition."

"For the first time in Iraq's history and really the first time in the region, you have Sunni, Shia and Kurds working together in a democratic framework to chart a way forward for their country," he said.

SuzeQuze
12-15-2008, 08:25 AM
Even smirky when shoes are thrown at him.

GODDESS6
12-15-2008, 08:59 AM
when i saw this on the news yesterday i was dying laffing, best thing i've seen all week~

gldstwmn
12-15-2008, 10:05 AM
Even smirky when shoes are thrown at him.

Don't you love his response? That fukcer still can't talk.

gldstwmn
12-15-2008, 10:07 AM
when i saw this on the news yesterday i was dying laffing, best thing i've seen all week~

Truly. I got a good laugh out of that one. He ducked pretty quickly.

RoseGarden
12-15-2008, 06:35 PM
Maybe this doesn't represent the Iraqi people but it sure represented one American I know!!!!:lol: Wish he had REALLY whacked him!

Villavic
12-15-2008, 07:28 PM
Why the hell he had to go again to Irak at the end of his goverment??

RoseGarden
12-15-2008, 07:45 PM
Why the hell he had to go again to Irak at the end of his goverment??

Bush and his friends probably have oil deal $$$$$ deal, made many oily friends. Maybe he was looking for a new place to vacation.
:shrug:

iamnotafraid
12-16-2008, 12:30 AM
I would have jacked that Iraqi man with a sock full of pennies.

skcin
12-16-2008, 01:29 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

gretchen
12-16-2008, 04:15 PM
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Musicman408
12-17-2008, 09:21 AM
I heard about this and couldn't believe it. I feel kind of bad for the president because he is going out with such a tarnished legacy, but really it is all his own doing. :nod:

David
12-17-2008, 01:50 PM
Some dodo birds are calling this act "freedom of speech" in a newly liberated Iraq.

Throwing a shoe at someone is not free speech. If it were, I could walk down the street & throw my shoes at passersby without the risk of being taken into custody. See how silly the notion is? When you throw a shoe at someone, it's a case of assault and/or battery.

The credible threat of violence against another person is a tort issue, & may result in legal action or criminal charges brought or both.

omigodstevie
12-17-2008, 08:41 PM
I thought it was hilarious.
Lets face it, he probably deserves a little more than just a shoe thrown at him.

SuzeQuze
12-18-2008, 01:20 PM
Don't you love his response? That fukcer still can't talk.

Forever inappropriate.

skcin
12-18-2008, 01:44 PM
Some dodo birds are calling this act "freedom of speech" in a newly liberated Iraq.

Throwing a shoe at someone is not free speech. If it were, I could walk down the street & throw my shoes at passersby without the risk of being taken into custody. See how silly the notion is? When you throw a shoe at someone, it's a case of assault and/or battery.

The credible threat of violence against another person is a tort issue, & may result in legal action or criminal charges brought or both.

I thought Strand & Michele were the only lawyers here. :rolleyes:

JK - I agree with you - it's not an issue of free speech. This was a physical attack, no matter how minor. Still fukcing hilarious though,.

skcin
12-19-2008, 10:20 AM
Bwahaha.

http://www.sockandawe.com/

JWS
12-27-2008, 12:48 AM
Should have been a brick.

rubytuesday
12-27-2008, 03:07 AM
Some dodo birds are calling this act "freedom of speech" in a newly liberated Iraq.

Throwing a shoe at someone is not free speech. If it were, I could walk down the street & throw my shoes at passersby without the risk of being taken into custody. See how silly the notion is? When you throw a shoe at someone, it's a case of assault and/or battery.

The credible threat of violence against another person is a tort issue, & may result in legal action or criminal charges brought or both.

so bush can throw bombs without being brought to trial but civilians can't throw a shoe. now that is a ****ed up democracy

David
12-27-2008, 12:49 PM
so bush can throw bombs without being brought to trial but civilians can't throw a shoe. now that is a ****ed up democracybut we need to bomb the bad guys. We are Americans! :thumbsup:

rubytuesday
12-28-2008, 12:13 AM
but we need to bomb the bad guys. We are Americans! :thumbsup:

I'm not :shrug: we used to use those sorts of tactics in Britain but at some point realised it was barbaric

UnwindedDreams
12-28-2008, 12:50 AM
so bush can throw bombs without being brought to trial but civilians can't throw a shoe. now that is a ****ed up democracy

America abides by the Geneva Conventions even with belligerents who do not.

I'm not fond of the new President-elect, but do I throw my size 15 Nikes at him? No.

rubytuesday
12-28-2008, 06:25 AM
America abides by the Geneva Conventions even with belligerents who do not.

I'm not fond of the new President-elect, but do I throw my size 15 Nikes at him? No.The Geneva Convention relates to treatment of prisoners of war mostly. The United States invaded and occupied a country, that we can all agree upon. Now imagine if your state, whatever it is, was an individual country and now imagine that for instance the Chinese Army invaded your country, occupied it and terrorized its people, sending the country into more chaos than under your leader who has been executed by the Chinese. Terrorism is rampant, you don't know which "hood" is safe and who is really in charge, complete chaos and constant deaths. Wouldn't you be a little pissed off at the head of the Chinese Army who ordered and continued to support this invasion? And if the sole of a shoe in your culture was the ultimate insult, like being spat upon maybe is here or whatever it is over there, wouldn't you think it is perhaps deserving, that after all the people who have been blasted to pieces and maimed that the leader of that army could do would with the most disrespected act that involves non-violence. He didn't throw a bomb at him, he threw a symbol of the people's hatred at him.

desertangel
12-28-2008, 09:23 AM
I've stayed up late to watch SNL, what - two weeks now... in hopes of seeing their parody of the shoe throw and all I've seen are Fey/Palin rerun episodes... what gives?! Did I miss it? There isn't any SNL shoe throw clips on You Tube. Is SNL on hiatus? Dang!!! :mad:

UnwindedDreams
12-28-2008, 11:47 AM
So Bush shouldn't have ducked and Secret Service shouldn't have taken the guy out? :rolleyes:

gldstwmn
12-28-2008, 01:38 PM
Should have been a brick.

It would have bounced off.

BombaySapphire3
12-28-2008, 09:05 PM
It would have bounced off.

yep ain't nothin up in there but a box of rocks.