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Enchanted_Stevi
11-24-2008, 11:02 AM
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Street_Dreamer
11-24-2008, 11:37 AM
Wow... how sad. They induct Peter, Danny and Jeremy yet they are completely ignored more or less and the focus is (of course) on Rumours and that lineup. How sad.

Matt
wolfontherun
11-24-2008, 02:41 PM
Sheryl Crow always comes off as incredibly pompous to me. She does alot of charity and political things which I comend her for but her attitude and her presentation skills have always rubbed me the wrong way.
jbrownsjr
11-24-2008, 02:49 PM
I'll never get over Bob Welch and Kirwan missing in that presentation...
David
11-24-2008, 03:51 PM
Sheryl Crow always comes off as incredibly pompous to me. She does alot of charity and political things which I comend her for but her attitude and her presentation skills have always rubbed me the wrong way.
I realize it's only rock & roll, but Crow's induction speech was inane & trite. Couldn't she think of anything to commend the band for besides shag haircuts? And who cares, at such a moment, what Sheryl herself was doing in 1977?
Street_Dreamer
11-24-2008, 04:32 PM
I'll never get over Bob Welch and Kirwan missing in that presentation...

Bob couldn't be there because he wasn't inducted (a complete sham.) I have to agree with what others have said about Cow-er Crow's introduction speech. It seemed to be more of an omage to Stevie than Fleetwood Mac. Even worse is that Peter, Jeremy and Danny get next to no recognition. They're represented as the guitarists who went crazy, not as hall of fame musicians and artists.

Matt
wolfontherun
11-24-2008, 07:03 PM
I realize it's only rock & roll, but Crow's induction speech was inane & trite. Couldn't she think of anything to commend the band for besides shag haircuts? And who cares, at such a moment, what Sheryl herself was doing in 1977?

Only Sheryl. :-)
SteveMacD
11-24-2008, 07:46 PM
Let's keep in mind that Danny was too sick to make it to the ceremony, and would not have been comfortable there. And, yes, I was pissed that Bob and Billy weren't included. But, that was ten years ago. I've moved on. Now that Madonna has been inducted before much more deserving artists, like Rush, Yes, Genesis, Kiss, or Randy Bachman, the whole thing seems like a sham.
nailatixela
11-24-2008, 07:49 PM
Also I find it interesting that the band didn't even know who was going to talk after Mick. John sure didn't want to!!

Thanks for sharing, I had never seen the speech.
jbrownsjr
11-24-2008, 07:55 PM
Let's keep in mind that Danny was too sick to make it to the ceremony, and would not have been comfortable there. And, yes, I was pissed that Bob and Billy weren't included. But, that was ten years ago. I've moved on. Now that Madonna has been inducted before much more deserving artists, like Rush, Yes, Genesis, Kiss, or Randy Bachman, the whole thing seems like a sham.

rush still isn't in there... and they .. .never broke up... still tour... still put out new albums...

i just picked up the snakes and arrows tour live... dvd
GoS
11-24-2008, 08:15 PM
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Oh, no! Not Nicks harmonies!

It that his usual Chet Akins that he's playing there, or what is it?
bucklind17
11-24-2008, 08:24 PM
rush still isn't in there... and they .. .never broke up... still tour... still put out new albums...

i just picked up the snakes and arrows tour live... dvd

I'm still peeved Chicago isn't in there (some would beg to disagree, I'm sure). But come on, they still tour with four of their original members and even put out an album of NEW material a few years ago (rare for them at this point). They are now 16 years into their eligibility! Rant over!

I remember loving that Stevie was on stage with four of her exes during the jam at this induction. Good times!
jbrownsjr
11-24-2008, 08:33 PM
I'm still peeved Chicago isn't in there (some would beg to disagree, I'm sure). But come on, they still tour with four of their original members and even put out an album of NEW material a few years ago (rare for them at this point). They are now 16 years into their eligibility! Rant over!

I remember loving that Stevie was on stage with four of her exes during the jam at this induction. Good times!

I seriously don't give a crap about the RR hall of fame... and I'm from Cleveland...
joe
11-25-2008, 08:22 AM
I remember loving that Stevie was on stage with four of her exes during the jam at this induction. Good times!

I don't recall there being a jam that year. Did I miss something??? I thought the lawyers couldn't get it to work for some reason or other. Or, maybe because it was because Stevie would've been up there with 4 of her exes!
darla
11-25-2008, 11:27 AM
I think there was some bitterness within the Eagles and that is why
there was no jam.....

I don't recall there being a jam that year. Did I miss something??? I thought the lawyers couldn't get it to work for some reason or other. Or, maybe because it was because Stevie would've been up there with 4 of her exes!
CADreaming
11-25-2008, 06:45 PM
I don't recall there being a jam that year. Did I miss something??? I thought the lawyers couldn't get it to work for some reason or other. Or, maybe because it was because Stevie would've been up there with 4 of her exes!

ROFLOL!!!! I would pay serious money to see Lindsey jamming with Joe and Don...funny stuff....
michelej1
11-25-2008, 06:51 PM
ROFLOL!!!! I would pay serious money to see Lindsey jamming with Joe and Don...funny stuff....

Hey, Henley's name should have been listed in the Choose a Drummer thread from the LB forum!

Gotta say that Don and Lindsey sound pretty nice together on You Can't Make Love. I'm way into it. Yowza!

Michele
Hawkeye
11-25-2008, 09:00 PM
Why the Hell were two of the three songs they chose to perfrom just Stevie and Lindsey. BuckinghamNicks was not inducted into the Hall of Fame. It's bad enough only the Rumours line up performed but they excluded Mick and John from over half of the performances. Thats just insane.
SteveMacD
11-26-2008, 12:56 AM
Why the Hell were two of the three songs they chose to perfrom just Stevie and Lindsey. BuckinghamNicks was not inducted into the Hall of Fame. It's bad enough only the Rumours line up performed but they excluded Mick and John from over half of the performances. Thats just insane.

That was all that was televised. I think they did another Christine song that wasn't televised. But, that moment where the band and Peter walked on stage was just gooseflesh. I wish they would have done "Oh Well," but Peter didn't actually know what was going on or where they were going until they were there. His manager wanted to surprise him. (Note: I got the story from Peter, Nigel, and Mich at a Splinter Group show.)
LukeA
11-26-2008, 01:14 AM
I wish they would have done "Oh Well," but Peter didn't actually know what was going on or where they were going until they were there. His manager wanted to surprise him. (Note: I got the story from Peter, Nigel, and Mich at a Splinter Group show.)

That explains why he was dressed up, yet still had two inch long fingernails.
CADreaming
11-26-2008, 03:48 PM
Why the Hell were two of the three songs they chose to perfrom just Stevie and Lindsey. BuckinghamNicks was not inducted into the Hall of Fame.

Maybe not "offically"...but...yeah. :wavey:
michelej1
11-26-2008, 04:29 PM
At least SYLM with all of them rocked. For them to sing so beautifully 23 years in was, um . . . showed me how phrases like "took my breath away" first came into being.

Michele
jwd
11-26-2008, 04:36 PM
As I recall Stevie was sick that night, a stomach virus if I remember correctly. I think she retired to her hotel room after FM was inducted. I'm sure she would have liked to party all night long if she was feeling up to it. Kind of takes the icing off the cake for her. But all in all, it was a night to cherish for FM.
David
11-26-2008, 05:13 PM
As I recall Stevie was sick that night, a stomach virus if I remember correctly. I think she retired to her hotel room after FM was inducted. I'm sure she would have liked to party all night long if she was feeling up to it. Kind of takes the icing off the cake for her. But all in all, it was a night to cherish for FM.When Stevie said, "Our hearts are just ... so ... full ..." I was hoping John or Chris or someone would add, "... of it!"
shackin'up
11-26-2008, 06:17 PM
I've never seen this before. So thanks for posting. And again we learn one thing.......John McVie is the only real human being left in this band.
chiliD
11-26-2008, 06:18 PM
...but Peter didn't actually know what was going on or where they were going until they were there. His manager wanted to surprise him. (Note: I got the story from Peter, Nigel, and Mich at a Splinter Group show.)

Yeah, because if he knew ahead of time, he would've tried to find a way to NOT go. :nod:;)
chiliD
11-26-2008, 06:22 PM
I don't recall there being a jam that year. !

Look at the bands who were inducted...other than Santana, none of the other bands COULD jam their way out of a paper bag. Even Peter Green's "jamming" days were long out of sight in the rear-view mirror by then.
Street_Dreamer
11-26-2008, 08:14 PM
It would have been so cool for the band to break out with Oh Well in honor of Peter on that night. Another missed opportunity though... what a shame.

Matt
Nico
11-30-2008, 03:05 AM
Their lack of originality baffles me. I mean, they have a plethora of things to choose from, yet they always resort to the same tired stuff...and this is me complaining about them from 1998! They better liven it up with their setlist a little. And frankly I agree with the ones who don't really care for the Buckingham-Nicks show, but if the other men weren't aware or even prepared, they probably had to rely on that pull...but still...the same songs???!!!?? I guess I should be glad they went at all. :shrug:
David
11-30-2008, 10:43 AM
Their lack of originality baffles me. I mean, they have a plethora of things to choose from, yet they always resort to the same tired stuff...and this is me complaining about them form 1998! They better liven it up with their setlist a little. And frankly I agree with the ones who don't really care for the Buckingham-Nicks show, but if the other men weren't aware or even prepared, they probably had to rely on that pull...but still...the same songs???!!!??Remember when they both appeared on Mark & Brian on KLOS in 1998? The DJs were urging them to play something -- anything -- & all they could do -- these two who had been singing & playing together since 1970 -- was sit there & be dumbfounded at the request to perform.

What did they do? "Never Going Back Again." Gee, perfect for Stevie. (She ultimately sat it out.)

I guess I should be glad they went at all. :shrug:If you're glad, you're glad. If you're not glad, you're not glad. How can you force yourself to be glad?
CADreaming
11-30-2008, 12:27 PM
Remember when they both appeared on Mark & Brian on KLOS in 1998? The DJs were urging them to play something -- anything -- & all they could do -- these two who had been singing & playing together since 1970 -- was sit there & be dumbfounded at the request to perform.

What did they do? "Never Going Back Again." Gee, perfect for Stevie. (She ultimately sat it out.)

Well, it was LB who had to choose what to play and he was the one saying NGBA was all he could think of....however, it would have been cool if they had broke into something they didn't even write - what about all the songs they must have practiced harmony on before they did their own material? I would think with LB's Rolling Stones covers they must be inspired to sing other stuff even when they are just in the privacy of their own homes...I guess in the interview setting it is "all about them" though.
michelej1
11-30-2008, 02:55 PM
Well, it was LB who had to choose what to play and he was the one saying NGBA was all he could think of....however, it would have been cool if they had broke into something they didn't even write - what about all the songs they must have practiced harmony on before they did their own material? I would think with LB's Rolling Stones covers they must be inspired to sing other stuff even when they are just in the privacy of their own homes...I guess in the interview setting it is "all about them" though.


I like Cory's entry where she said that Stevie started singng Glenn Campbell's Southern Nights and Lindsey joined them. We all would have loved to hear that. But even Kiss and Run on the reissue is really nice. Christine was the director and she told SnL to sing and they immediately started. I would like a whole album of those little things.

Michele
snoot
12-07-2008, 01:09 AM
Bob Welch was screwed over simply because he challenged the band over perceived royalties he felt he was "shortchanged" years earlier. This whole affair erupted in the early 90's and was eventually settled in court IIRC.

Unfortunately that affront left a residual of bitterness and suspicion within the band. Shame really, as Welch deserves the same degree of recognition as any other Mac principal. Why this couldn't have been put aside for this singular event I have no idea. Grudges die hard apparently, even among artists.

But then just as an earlier commenter said, who gives a flying **** about the R&R Hall Of Fame anyway. When bands like the Moody Blues, Jethro Tull and Yes have yet to be recognized, and yet a bunch of fly by night, non-descript, wingding bands are trumpeted to the heavens and rolled in, you know the whole thing smacks of POLITICS and MORE POLITICS (uh, beyond poor taste). Alas, some things never change. :rolleyes:

PS. For all it's worth, Danny Kirwan was included in the induction but I'm not sure if he would have been up for the public recognition and the stage at that time.
HenleyFan
12-07-2008, 10:23 AM
We were at the induction ceremony that night (long story) and if I recall correctly FM only did the two songs that were broadcast.....everyone only did two songs. Also there was no jam because the Eagles insisted on performing last and you know how they are. :) Most people in the audience seemed confused over the lack of a jam. After the Eagles walked off the stage, Jann Wenner went up to the podium and thanked everyone for coming. It was a very anti-climatic ending to the evening.

L&M
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snoot
12-07-2008, 04:28 PM
Don't you love happy endings? Pfffft

Also there was no jam because the Eagles insisted on performing last and you know how they are. :) LOL

Sort of fits though... in line with the rest of the shortchanging going on. :rolleyes:

We were at the induction ceremony that night (long story) and if I recall correctly FM only did the two songs that were broadcast.....everyone only did two songs. Also there was no jam because the Eagles insisted on performing last and you know how they are. :) Most people in the audience seemed confused over the lack of a jam. After the Eagles walked off the stage, Jann Wenner went up to the podium and thanked everyone for coming. It was a very anti-climatic ending to the evening.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com
jld92
12-08-2008, 10:15 AM
Well, it was LB who had to choose what to play and he was the one saying NGBA was all he could think of....however, it would have been cool if they had broke into something they didn't even write - what about all the songs they must have practiced harmony on before they did their own material? I would think with LB's Rolling Stones covers they must be inspired to sing other stuff even when they are just in the privacy of their own homes...I guess in the interview setting it is "all about them" though.

Yeah..."California Dreaming" would have been cool...That is the first song that they sang together, correct? NGBA was a lame choice on Lindsey's part considering that they are so famous for their harmonizing. Obviously he would pick a song that is basically him and the guitar, right?
michelej1
12-08-2008, 01:07 PM
NGBA was a lame choice on Lindsey's part considering that they are so famous for their harmonizing. Obviously he would pick a song that is basically him and the guitar, right?

That's one thing I didn't like about his Soundstage with her. Even singing Second Hand News would have been better than NGBA. SHN is a duet.


As for Say Goodbye, I always said that Sunny Von Bulow came out of her coma to awake seeing them performing that song looking into each other's eyes and she promptly fell back into it. But now she's dead. So, I don't know what to say about it -- except I'm thinking it won't make the setlist this time around.

Michele
CADreaming
12-08-2008, 07:29 PM
I like Cory's entry where she said that Stevie started singng Glenn Campbell's Southern Nights and Lindsey joined them. We all would have loved to hear that. But even Kiss and Run on the reissue is really nice. Christine was the director and she told SnL to sing and they immediately started. I would like a whole album of those little things.

Michele

Wasn't that "Take Me Home Country Roads" by John Denver?? Would have loved to have heard that...