Christine's NEW Album

[dcl1964]

On the Pause & Play website (www.pauseandplay.com) there is a listing for Christine's next album (it's in the More Upcoming Releases section). The listing says due SPRING 2009. Just thought you'd all like to know.

[aleuzzi]

On the Pause & Play website (www.pauseandplay.com) there is a listing for Christine's next album (it's in the More Upcoming Releases section). The listing says due SPRING 2009. Just thought you'd all like to know.

HONK MY HOOTER!!!!!!

I had to see this for myself and indeed--between Maxwell and Megadeth--is a listing for Christine's upcoming record, sans title.

[sywlindseyfan]

I am going to go cry now from happiness, thank you guys! i just got my Varsity letter for Cross Country tonight, and this was the cherry on top!

[Moz]

CHRIST ON A CRACKER, HELL HATH FROZEN OVER!
ILU CHRISTINE :xoxo:

[macpai]

Most excellent!!! :]

[Matthew]

Why didn´t she join to Fleetwood mac for a recording new album? They planed it after the tour next yera, aren´t they? I know that Christine don´t want to tour again, but if FM make a new album and Christine also, but alone... it would be great if they worked together in studio... it was in 1987 last time...

[macfan 57]

This makes my day!! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:


Also, this is listed under new releases, so this isn't an ITM re-release.

This must be NEW MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[strandinthewind]

Why didn´t she join to Fleetwood mac for a recording new album? They planed it after the tour next yera, aren´t they? I know that Christine don´t want to tour again, but if FM make a new album and Christine also, but alone... it would be great if they worked together in studio... it was in 1987 last time...

I know - it's not like the chances of FM having a hit single are anything but slim to none. So, from that aspect only and though I'd like her to tour for other reasons, who cares if she tours :shrug:

[aleuzzi]

This makes my day!! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:


Also, this is listed under new releases, so this isn't an ITM re-release.

This must be NEW MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you believe it? I have been waiting wishing hoping

[jbrownsjr]

Wow... Does anyone agree that was the shortest 4 years ever....

[louielouie2000]

Wow... Does anyone agree that was the shortest 4 years ever....

I agree! And it's so intriguing to me how much the tables have turned. In this decade, Chris and Lindsey will have put out TWICE the number of solo albums individually that Stevie has. Just think of it this way:

1980s
Stevie: 4
Lindsey: 2
Christine: 1

1990s
Stevie: 1
Lindsey: 1
Christine: 0

2000s
Stevie: 1
Lindsey: 2
Christine: 2

I guess it has something to do with the fact the 2000s have been the least productive decade ever for Fleetwood Mac with only ONE studio album :eek: . I just love too how Lindsey and Christine have not only become more prolific, but they're also making the best music in their lives in my opinion.

[jbrownsjr]

I agree! And it's so intriguing to me how much the tables have turned. In this decade, Chris and Lindsey will have put out TWICE the number of solo albums individually that Stevie has. Just think of it this way:

1980s
Stevie: 4
Lindsey: 2
Christine: 1

1990s
Stevie: 1
Lindsey: 1
Christine: 0

2000s
Stevie: 1
Lindsey: 2
Christine: 2

I guess it has something to do with the fact the 2000s have been the least productive decade ever for Fleetwood Mac with only ONE studio album :eek: . I just love too how Lindsey and Christine have not only become more prolific, but they're also making the best music in their lives in my opinion.

And Christine Perfect just put one out from the vaults....

[michelej1]

This is amazing and it tickles me because during the same time period, FM will be touring with no new material and Chris might have a new album.

Well, as more details emerge, we may get taken down a peg or 2 when all is not what it sounds like, but right now it sounds incredible.

Michele

[jbrownsjr]

This is amazing and it tickles me because during the same time period, FM will be touring with no new material and Chris might have a new album.

Well, as more details emerge, we may get taken down a peg or 2 when all is not what it sounds like, but right now it sounds incredible.

Michele

I am thinking the same thing.... No producer listed... No title listed... could be a re-release... could be a vault greatest hits... etc etc etc...

or.........

could be a blues album w/ clapton peter green mick john .....but i digress...

[nicepace]

Of course, I hope this is for real. But I'm not getting excited yet. I've never heard of "Pause and Play." A reputable source? And the listing says "Title TBA" and "Label TBA." Sounds tentative at best. We've all been disappointed by 'rumours' before ... so let's just wait and see. (But Chris herself said: I'll be coming home again ... just you wait and see.)

I hope to see some confirmation of this from other sources soon!

[Gailh]

I wonder if this is the re-working of ITM that Martin Wyatt mentioned?

I hope it's new material. If it is it's great news. :woohoo::woohoo:

I wonder if she's fallen in love again? :xoxo:

Gail

[David]

Hey! Maybe that's why Fleetwood Mac is going to tour FIRST & then think about recording after -- to record with Chris in the fold again.

[macfan 57]

Of course, I hope this is for real. But I'm not getting excited yet. I've never heard of "Pause and Play." A reputable source? And the listing says "Title TBA" and "Label TBA." Sounds tentative at best. We've all been disappointed by 'rumours' before ... so let's just wait and see. (But Chris herself said: I'll be coming home again ... just you wait and see.)

I hope to see some confirmation of this from other sources soon!

This website(Pause and Play) did list ITM in the beginning too, also with both the album title & label(TBA). I'm not sure where they get their info....maybe somewhere on the web.

If this info is legitimate, it wouldn't surprise me if that spring 2009 release date is pushed back. That what happened with ITM.

[macfan 57]

Can you believe it? I have been waiting wishing hoping

I know.:D It usually has taken her 15-20 years to put out any of her solo albums. Five years is FAST, FAST for her.:laugh:

I really, really, really hope this is true.

[michelej1]

I wonder if this is the re-working of ITM that Martin Wyatt mentioned?

I hope it's new material. If it is it's great news. :woohoo::woohoo:

I wonder if she's fallen in love again? :xoxo:

Gail

Of course, she could have broken up again, which probably gets the creative fluids flowing even more.

Michele

[BombaySapphire3]

I agree! And it's so intriguing to me how much the tables have turned. In this decade, Chris and Lindsey will have put out TWICE the number of solo albums individually that Stevie has. Just think of it this way:

1980s
Stevie: 4
Lindsey: 2
Christine: 1

1990s
Stevie: 1
Lindsey: 1
Christine: 0

2000s
Stevie: 1
Lindsey: 2
Christine: 2

I guess it has something to do with the fact the 2000s have been the least productive decade ever for Fleetwood Mac with only ONE studio album :eek: . I just love too how Lindsey and Christine have not only become more prolific, but they're also making the best music in their lives in my opinion.

It could be that some writers have a certain amount of songs in them and Nicks got most of hers out of the way earlier.I agree Lindsey's recent albums have been stellar but IMHO Christine was always best heard in the context of Fleetwood Mac and more particularly a Fleetwood Mac with Lindsey Buckingham in it.Her Fleetwood Mac singles from 1975 -1987 are among the finest runs in the history of pop/rock IMO.

[aleuzzi]

It could be that some writers have a certain amount of songs in them and Nicks got most of hers out of the way earlier.I agree Lindsey's recent albums have been stellar but IMHO Christine was always best heard in the context of Fleetwood Mac and more particularly a Fleetwood Mac with Lindsey Buckingham in it.Her Fleetwood Mac singles from 1975 -1987 are among the finest runs in the history of pop/rock IMO.

Now see I think ITM is her best work. Her voice sounds fantastic there and almost every song is damn good. "Friend" and "Anything is Possible" would have been monster hits if they were recorded with Mac, with perhaps only a touch or two of different arranging. "Forgiveness" happens to be one of her most satisfying songs. And she turns in an amazing performance on "Calumny," where she actually illuminates the lyrics, makes them mean something beyond an "oh, daddy, I love you baby" sort of thing.

[David]

Now see I think ITM is her best work. Her voice sounds fantastic there She's the only one left from "Rumours" with an excellent voice.

[michelej1]

She's the only one left from "Rumours" with an excellent voice.

Mick's voice has not changed at all. It's still beautiful.

I agree that Christine's vocal interpretation of Calumny is what makes it so great, but I also think that about Northern Star. Casting stones, throwing bones. She sounds weary, yearning, and there's an aged knowledge in the way she turns the phrases.

Michele

[Nicks Fan]

She's the only one left from "Rumours" with an excellent voice.

I agree completely. She has the best voice by far right now. Lindsey tends to scream and growl more so then sing these days and Stevie is hit and miss. In TO 2003 on the SYW tour with some exceptions her voice was way too nazel sounding. Yet when I saw her in Philly on the 2 Voices tour she was great. I would love Christine to come back and do one last tour with the band. It would be a great way for the band to go out on a high note.

Matt

[nicepace]

I would love Christine to come back and do one last tour with the band. It would be a great way for the band to go out on a high note.

That's what 'The Dance' was supposed to be. The other four of them just kept at it after that tour, which should have been the beautiful ending. At least, I'm sure that's the way Chris considered it.

'In the Meantime' and the rumoured new solo album are Christine's retirement projects. Being in a band was her career, but she's retired now. A lot of people do a few projects in their field after their real working days are done. It just happens that Chris' first retirement project ('ITM') was superb, and we can hope for the same from the next one, if there is a next one.

[michelej1]

That's what 'The Dance' was supposed to be. The other four of them just kept at it after that tour, which should have been the beautiful ending. At least, I'm sure that's the way Chris considered it.



I'm not sure Chris considered it the final note until once the tour was underway and she realized the lifestyle was something she wanted to be done with completely. I don't think they went into it thinking it would be the end. In fact, the majority of them probably went in expecting to add more tour dates eventually. That's the thing about the Dance tour: it was the end but I don't think the band knew it and, as a fan, I didn't know it was the end. I thought it was the beginning of something. If I knew that the 5 would not be together again, I would have approached the tour with a different mindset. I would like a chance to say goodbye, knowing it is goodbye.

Michele

[SteveMacD]

I'm not sure Chris considered it the final note until once the tour was underway and she realized the lifestyle was something she wanted to be done with completely. I don't think they went into it thinking it would be the end. In fact, the majority of them probably went in expecting to add more tour dates eventually. That's the thing about the Dance tour: it was the end but I don't think the band knew it and, as a fan, I didn't know it was the end. I thought it was the beginning of something. If I knew that the 5 would not be together again, I would have approached the tour with a different mindset. I would like a chance to say goodbye, knowing it is goodbye.

I knew it was the end, well of that incarnation of Fleetwood Mac anyway. Christine made her intentions known on "Time" as to her views of her future with Fleetwood Mac. But, when "The Dance" came together, I think she thought it would be a nicer way to retire from the band. I think she went into it with the notion that it would be the grand send-off. But, I think it also became clear during that time that Stevie and Lindsey had unfinished musical business, and that Mick and John wanted to keep going.

[michelej1]

I knew it was the end, well of that incarnation of Fleetwood Mac anyway. Christine made her intentions known on "Time" as to her views of her future with Fleetwood Mac.

Yes, I knew what her intentions were at the Time time -- even her lyrics tell the story of how she is feeling. Heck, even ealier, as soon as her father died, she said she wanted to go. However, in 1997, I didn't know whether or not she'd gotten a second wind, now that the 5 of them were back together. I don't think she told the band that it was the end until after the tour started. Then, they tried to coax her into staying, but that's when it became clear that her mind was made up. Going into the tour, I thought all of them might be up for a new beginning. Michele

[aleuzzi]

I can't believe I'm gonna' say this, but I'm glad she left. I wasn't initially, but Say You Will was the most interesting FM record since Tusk, and In the Meantime was among Christine's best music of her entire career. Everyone seemed to benefit--at least on the records--from this new configuration: Stevie and Lindsey had more space to stretch and experiment, not always successfully; and Christine had a chance to prove to the world--and herself--that an entire record of her songs could be as exciting and rewarding as any MAC blockbuster of yore.

Think of the great songs that probably never would have made it to record had the band continued with the Rumors lineup: "Everybody Finds Out"; "Murrow"; "Bad Journey," "Forgiveness," and "Calumny."

[BombaySapphire3]

I can't believe I'm gonna' say this, but I'm glad she left. I wasn't initially, but Say You Will was the most interesting FM record since Tusk, and In the Meantime was among Christine's best music of her entire career. Everyone seemed to benefit--at least on the records--from this new configuration: Stevie and Lindsey had more space to stretch and experiment, not always successfully; and Christine had a chance to prove to the world--and herself--that an entire record of her songs could be as exciting and rewarding as any MAC blockbuster of yore.


Prove to the world:shrug: ..I'd be surprised if the total worldwide sales of ITM broke 50.000. some excellent songs that were heard by only a few. SYW is a good album with some real highlights as well but I think if Christine had been fully involved it could have been a classic .IMO the Rumours lineup could literally drop another Rumours tomorrow and it would get very little airplay as terrible as that may seem that is what the radio and recording bussiness has come down to.

[Gailh]

I can't believe I'm gonna' say this, but I'm glad she left.


I was sorry she left initially but I was glad she was doing what she wanted and seemed happy with her new life. The last thing I would have wanted was her staying with the band out of some misplaced sense of duty or loyalty and going through the motions.

Now we've had ITM, and possibly another new album, where she can work at her own pace without all the band politics and just enjoy it.

Gail

[nicepace]

I was sorry she left initially but I was glad she was doing what she wanted and seemed happy with her new life.

I realize my opinion is not shared by the vast majority of people who identity themselves as Fleetwood Mac fans, but of course I am glad Chris left FM. As a result of her leaving, 'In the Meantime' came into existence, and 'In the Meantime' is my favorite Fleetwood Mac-related work from the past three decades.

[BombaySapphire3]

I realize my opinion is not shared by the vast majority of people who identity themselves as Fleetwood Mac fans, but of course I am glad Chris left FM. As a result of her leaving, 'In the Meantime' came into existence, and 'In the Meantime' is my favorite Fleetwood Mac-related work from the past three decades.

Even moreso than Tusk?!!:eek:

[jbrownsjr]

Mick's voice has not changed at all. It's still beautiful.

I agree that Christine's vocal interpretation of Calumny is what makes it so great, but I also think that about Northern Star. Casting stones, throwing bones. She sounds weary, yearning, and there's an aged knowledge in the way she turns the phrases.

Michele

I too noticed how she used anguish in some of her tunes.... he just slips the noose... tight around my heart... (excellent phrasing)

[aleuzzi]

I realize my opinion is not shared by the vast majority of people who identity themselves as Fleetwood Mac fans, but of course I am glad Chris left FM. As a result of her leaving, 'In the Meantime' came into existence, and 'In the Meantime' is my favorite Fleetwood Mac-related work from the past three decades.

I couldn't have said this better myself.

[jbrownsjr]

I'm really really excited...

[nicepace]

I couldn't have said this better myself.

I'm pleased to have your agreement.

As for "Calumny," I completely agree with the posters who are praising her vocals on that song. It's one of her best vocal performances, ever. It proves she could have a career as a torch singer if she wanted it.

I just wish she'd recorded that song with grand piano accompaniment (think "Songbird"). There's nothing wrong with the arrangement as it is, but I think it would have been spectacular with a piano accompaniment.

[jbrownsjr]

I'm pleased to have your agreement.

As for "Calumny," I completely agree with the posters who are praising her vocals on that song. It's one of her best vocal performances, ever. It proves she could have a career as a torch singer if she wanted it.

I just wish she'd recorded that song with grand piano accompaniment (think "Songbird"). There's nothing wrong with the arrangement as it is, but I think it would have been spectacular with a piano accompaniment.

I love the guitar arrangement... It's adds a sparkle to this song... and I agree here vocals were beautiful here...

[michelej1]

I was just looking at this Rock Village interview Chris gave in 1998 and thinking that's exactly why I am owed a farewell.

She said, when asked if they would stay together after the tour:

You can only speculate, really. We're taking it one step at a time. We don't really know ourselves yet. We're not taking any note of the managers or record companies or anything. We're concentrating on the five of us at the moment and seeing how we enjoy ourselves. We're doing this for each other and obviously doing it for a lot of fans. It's a coming together and a celebration. We can at least, at the end of this tour, kind of hug each other and put some positive closure to the last 20 years of what has been seeming hell and also the most uproariously wonderful times, too. But this way it's going to be a positive closure. And who knows? It may not be a closure.

I did not know it was the end. She didn't goodbye me. So, I'm all for her being at peace and happy, I suppose (really, their happiness isn't that important to me, when it conflicts with my own) but I want a one off concert finale. That's all I ask.

Michele

[David]

I did not know it was the end. She didn't goodbye me. So, I'm all for her being at peace and happy, I suppose (really, their happiness isn't that important to me, when it conflicts with my own) but I want a one off concert finale. That's all I ask.I want Christine to relive her Rumours Touring. But as John Stewart taught us: "You can't go back to Kansas.

Because that was ... yesterday ..."

[David]

I'm really really excited...'Bout what?! :thumbsup:

[jbrownsjr]

'Bout what?! :thumbsup:

The FM US Festival Bootlegs of course!!! lol

[billwebster]

Questioning the site's data is legitimate, I think. But usually, they are rather reliable when it comes to new release info. Still, they did include in their list the albums "Long Road Out Of Eden" by the Eagles long before it was called that, and "Chinese Democracy" by Guns N Roses long before that came out. So their estimation for a release date should remain questionable.

Back then, they knew about "In the Meantime" at just the right moment to believe that they are accurate again now. Still, I'd like to know what their source for this info is.

Thanks for pointing us towards the rumor anyway.
What else to expect from a site which is largely about Rumors? :D

[jwd]

I just wish that the Rumours band would get back together and create some new music. Why does it have to be conditional on touring? It really makes no sense to me. :( But I'll relish another solo gift from Christine, "in the meantime". I love her!!

[jbrownsjr]

I just wish that the Rumours band would get back together and create some new music. Why does it have to be conditional on touring? It really makes no sense to me. :( But I'll relish another solo gift from Christine, "in the meantime". I love her!!

Couldn't agree more...

[SteveMacD]

I just wish that the Rumours band would get back together and create some new music. Why does it have to be conditional on touring? It really makes no sense to me. :( But I'll relish another solo gift from Christine, "in the meantime". I love her!!

Because one of her songs might be a hit. :rolleyes:

[jbrownsjr]

Because one of her songs might be a hit. :rolleyes:

hahaha... good point but doubtful ...

[michelej1]

Even if it's a reissue, I bet this means that Christine's website will come back for a little bit. Maybe she'll answer some of the old Q & A questions.

Michele

[aleuzzi]

hahaha... good point but doubtful ...

Honestly, I think MAC could get a hit - a big one - by way of one of Christine's songs. But even if she doesn't return to the band, then an almost-identical version of the same song on a solo album would go almost entirely unnoticed.

About half of the reviews from ITM savaged Christine's limitations as a lyricist and performer. However, if she'd contributed six or seven of those ITM songs to Say You Will, those same reviewers would have hailed her as the greatest asset to the band. It's all about context--and in the context of FM, Christine has usually been a critical success. This is often not the case on her own.

[SteveMacD]

Honestly, I think MAC could get a hit - a big one - by way of one of Christine's songs. But even if she doesn't return to the band, then an almost-identical version of the same song on a solo album would go almost entirely unnoticed.

About half of the reviews from ITM savaged Christine's limitations as a lyricist and performer. However, if she'd contributed six or seven of those ITM songs to Say You Will, those same reviewers would have hailed her as the greatest asset to the band. It's all about context--and in the context of FM, Christine has usually been a critical success. This is often not the case on her own.

The sum is greater than the parts. I really can't listen to any of their solo albums from start to finish. Too much of any one element gets on my nerves after a few minutes.

[BombaySapphire3]

The sum is greater than the parts. I really can't listen to any of their solo albums from start to finish. Too much of any one element gets on my nerves after a few minutes.

I can listen to a very good Buckingham or Nicks solo album from start to finish Bella Donna ,Out of the Cradle and possibly Gift of Screws would certainly qualify..Christine is just too bland to carry an entire album IMO..I repeat what I stated earlier in this thread .She is sublime in the context of Fleetwood Mac particularly with Buckingham in it.I agree the sum is greater than the parts.If all three had concentrated on Fleetwood Mac exclusively we could have had three superb FM studio albums since The Dance.

[Phoenixgypsy]

I would love to see FM (with Christine) re-record "Friend". I can almost hear Stevie and Linds in the background!

[nicepace]

I can listen to a very good Buckingham or Nicks solo album from start to finish Bella Donna ,Out of the Cradle and possibly Gift of Screws would certainly qualify..Christine is just too bland to carry an entire album IMO.

I disagree with you about that. I own a few of Lindsey's and Stevie's solo albums, which I have listened to a few times, but I'm just not that impressed with either of them, except in the context of the band. This is especially true of Stevie, whose voice and faux-poetic songwriting style I find monotonous. Her music works in the band context where her airiness is balanced by the other two songwriters.

Christine's music, on the other hand, I can listen to anytime. The vocal expressiveness, musical luster, and emotional intimacy contained in 'In the Meantime' set that album apart. As I have said before, 'In the Meantime' is my favorite FM-related work of at least the last three decades.

[Ulpian]

I disagree with you about that. I own a few of Lindsey's and Stevie's solo albums, which I have listened to a few times, but I'm just not that impressed with either of them, except in the context of the band. This is especially true of Stevie, whose voice and faux-poetic songwriting style I find monotonous. Her music works in the band context where her airiness is balanced by the other two songwriters.

Christine's music, on the other hand, I can listen to anytime. The vocal expressiveness, musical luster, and emotional intimacy contained in 'In the Meantime' set that album apart. As I have said before, 'In the Meantime' is my favorite FM-related work of at least the last three decades.

I disagree. I am a huge Christine fan, but ITM was not, I think, her best work and certainly not the best solo album released by any of the FM members. I find the second half of the album particularly weak. However, gems like Friend, You Are, Calumny and Northern Star make the whole thing worth it, its flaws notwithstanding.

I am very eager to see what, if any, new material appears from Christine in 2009. I suspect this might be the reworking of ITM we heard about, through the grape vine, a few months back. Nothing, though, would delight me more if it was something new.

[aleuzzi]

I disagree. I am a huge Christine fan, but ITM was not, I think, her best work and certainly not the best solo album released by any of the FM members. I find the second half of the album particularly weak. However, gems like Friend, You Are, Calumny and Northern Star make the whole thing worth it, its flaws notwithstanding.

I am very eager to see what, if any, new material appears from Christine in 2009. I suspect this might be the reworking of ITM we heard about, through the grape vine, a few months back. Nothing, though, would delight me more if it was something new.

We'll agree to disagree.

[nicepace]

We'll agree to disagree.

And Aleuzzi and I will agree to agree! There's room for everybody's opinion.

[BombaySapphire3]

I disagree with you about that. I own a few of Lindsey's and Stevie's solo albums, which I have listened to a few times, but I'm just not that impressed with either of them, except in the context of the band. This is especially true of Stevie, whose voice and faux-poetic songwriting style I find monotonous. Her music works in the band context where her airiness is balanced by the other two songwriters.

Christine's music, on the other hand, I can listen to anytime. The vocal expressiveness, musical luster, and emotional intimacy contained in 'In the Meantime' set that album apart. As I have said before, 'In the Meantime' is my favorite FM-related work of at least the last three decades. Bella Donna is pretty much unassailably a classic California rock album that can take it's place alongside Rumours or One of These Nights among others.The remainder of Nicks's solo catalouge is pretty uneven I will admit.I'm happy that you enjoy In the Meantime so much and hope that Christine .Lindsey and Stevie continue to provide us with new music.

[SteveMacD]

I can listen to a very good Buckingham or Nicks solo album from start to finish Bella Donna , Out of the Cradle and possibly Gift of Screws would certainly qualify..
I'll give you Bella Donna, but it's not like it's all Stevie on that. Tom Petty and Don Henley help break things up a bit. And, Stevie was in top form. After that, each album had a couple of decent to great songs and a bunch of filler.

Out Of The Cradle would have been great had Lindsey used an actual rhythm section. But the drum machine makes the album pretty unlistenable for me. If anything, that album reinforces just how critical Mick and John are to that classic Mac sound. To put it another way, I noticed the absence of Mick and John more on Out Of The Cradle than I noticed Lindsey's absence on Christine's songs on Time. I really can't comment on his most recent album, as I've not heard it. I'll get it eventually, but I'm in no particular rush.

Christine is just too bland to carry an entire album IMO.

I'd still take her 1984 solo album over any of Lindsey's albums or Stevie's album's save for Bella Donna. But, that album had Todd Sharp's fingerprints all over it, making it more of a group effort than a true solo album, and was graced with great vocal cameos from Lindsey and Steve Winwood. Even Clapton's one solo added character to the album.

[jbrownsjr]

I'll give you Bella Donna, but it's not like it's all Stevie on that. Tom Petty and Don Henley help break things up a bit. And, Stevie was in top form. After that, each album had a couple of decent to great songs and a bunch of filler.

Out Of The Cradle would have been great had Lindsey used an actual rhythm section. But the drum machine makes the album pretty unlistenable for me. If anything, that album reinforces just how critical Mick and John are to that classic Mac sound. To put it another way, I noticed the absence of Mick and John more on Out Of The Cradle than I noticed Lindsey's absence on Christine's songs on Time. I really can't comment on his most recent album, as I've not heard it. I'll get it eventually, but I'm in no particular rush.



I'd still take her 1984 solo album over any of Lindsey's albums or Stevie's album's save for Bella Donna. But, that album had Todd Sharp's fingerprints all over it, making it more of a group effort than a true solo album, and was graced with great vocal cameos from Lindsey and Steve Winwood. Even Clapton's one solo added character to the album.

Whoa... I really agree with all of this... I would add LB's amazing solo at the end of This Smile I live For.....

Also, Got A Hold on Me, is such a great tune... her keyboard work along with the great drums... stellar..

For as much as LB complained about Mick's and John's playing... his work is pitiful as far as bass and drums...

[Neb-Maat-Re]

Of course, I hope this is for real. But I'm not getting excited yet. I've never heard of "Pause and Play." A reputable source? And the listing says "Title TBA" and "Label TBA." Sounds tentative at best. We've all been disappointed by 'rumours' before ... so let's just wait and see. (But Chris herself said: I'll be coming home again ... just you wait and see.)

I hope to see some confirmation of this from other sources soon!

I'm with you on this one - especially after the number of sites that listed (and some still do) a forthcoming album called "When Will I See You Again" as the Best Of Billy Thorpe when it was actually The Three Degrees!

[Gailh]

So do we think that any "new" album or re-working or whatever it is will be released in March time?

About the time of the FM tour

Gail

[michelej1]

So do we think that any "new" album or re-working or whatever it is will be released in March time?

About the time of the FM tour

Gail

Yes, about the time of the Rumours (30th) reissue. There is a method to this madness.

Michele

[SteveMacD]

Ummm...I thought Tusk was going to be 30 and Rumours 32...

[PenguinHead]

Why didn´t she join to Fleetwood mac for a recording new album? They planed it after the tour next yera, aren´t they? I know that Christine don´t want to tour again, but if FM make a new album and Christine also, but alone... it would be great if they worked together in studio... it was in 1987 last time...

Maybe perhaps she doesn't want to deal with them? Too much of a hassle, I would think.

[michelej1]

Ummm...I thought Tusk was going to be 30 and Rumours 32...

Quite frankly, they haven't reissued Tusk quite enough for me, just yet. But we can hold out hope that the DVD that goes with the CD contains some great stuff and might even have some new commentary or something from Christine. After all, Mick has seen her recently. It's easy to tote a camera and microphone to England with you.

Michele

[jbrownsjr]

Quite frankly, they haven't reissued Tusk quite enough for me, just yet. But we can hold out hope that the DVD that goes with the CD contains some great stuff and might even have some new commentary or something from Christine. After all, Mick has seen her recently. It's easy to tote a camera and microphone to England with you.

Michele

I would seriously love some Mirage or Tango Documentary footage...

[shackin'up]

Maybe perhaps she doesn't want to deal with them? Too much of a hassle, I would think.

Maybe you guys should consider the possibility that Lindsey IS right and that she HAS "burnt her bridges", and does not want to be involved in FM-whatsoever? And that that is her concious choice?

[nicepace]

Maybe you guys should consider the possibility that Lindsey IS right and that she HAS "burnt her bridges", and does not want to be involved in FM-whatsoever? And that that is her concious choice?

What? Why does Lindsey have to be consulted to come to this conclusion? Chris herself has made her intentions plain in regard to the Mac, and she's clearly not interested. Or at least that was true the last time she made any public statements, which is a while now. When is the most recent Christine interview out there?

[macfan 57]

When is the most recent Christine interview out there?

That would be the round of interviews that she did here in the U.S. just after ITM was released. One of those would be that VH1 Classic interview that I recently posted to YouTube. That World Cafe interview was another one.

In a number of those interviews, she sounded like she wanted nothing more to do with Fleetwood Mac, especially any sort of tour. The Dance was it for her and that turned out to be the end of the classic Fleetwood Mac.

[nicepace]

I knew MacFan would answer that question. Thanks, M.!

Wouldn't a current interview with Chris ... just a low-key, catch-up, how are the dogs, is the piano in tune, sort of interview be nice?

[Gailh]

Maybe you guys should consider the possibility that Lindsey IS right and that she HAS "burnt her bridges", and does not want to be involved in FM-whatsoever? And that that is her concious choice?

I think you're right.

She can do things at her own pace now and not have to refer to other band members.

She's happily (semi) retired

Gail

[nightbird28]

Of course, I hope this is for real. But I'm not getting excited yet. I've never heard of "Pause and Play." A reputable source? And the listing says "Title TBA" and "Label TBA." Sounds tentative at best. We've all been disappointed by 'rumours' before ... so let's just wait and see. (But Chris herself said: I'll be coming home again ... just you wait and see.)

I hope to see some confirmation of this from other sources soon!

I love pause and play and they are usually dead on. I've looked to them for a lot of upcoming releases and they usually have the right information. Sometimes they aren't up to date on some information, but then again. If they have it listed it probably is true and we'll hopefully get the album by spring if not summer.

[Ulpian]

Maybe you guys should consider the possibility that Lindsey IS right and that she HAS "burnt her bridges", and does not want to be involved in FM-whatsoever? And that that is her concious choice?

I really don't think this comment is very helpful at all. We all are quite clear on Christine's status regarding the band. She made it clear herself a number of times that she is done with it, not coming back, etc. Lindsey does not need to enter into the equation.

[macfan 57]

I love pause and play and they are usually dead on. I've looked to them for a lot of upcoming releases and they usually have the right information. Sometimes they aren't up to date on some information, but then again. If they have it listed it probably is true and we'll hopefully get the album by spring if not summer.

I think you're right. This website had listed the same info for ITM. They weren't right about the release date. But they were right that the album was coming.

I'll be very surprised if this hopefully new Christine album comes in the Spring. But, I believe something is coming, eventually. Christine is up to something.:D

[profjohn]

As rep0rted in a Canadian Web site,
http://mdislander.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8151&Itemid=39
on Friday, Dec. 5th, Christine attended a Fleetwood blues band performance when they played in Canterbury in October. Quoting Mark Johnstone, the band's keyboardist:

"One of the surprises was to see Fleetwood Mac singer and pianist Christine McVie in the audience for a show in Canterbury, England, he said."

Maybe there's no more to it than she only had to travel a few miles to see Mick and Rick Vito again. But I'd love to know whether she discussed business with them before or after the show. New album?

[michelej1]

As rep0rted in a Canadian Web site,
http://mdislander.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8151&Itemid=39
on Friday, Dec. 5th, Christine attended a Fleetwood blues band performance when they played in Canterbury in October. Quoting Mark Johnstone, the band's keyboardist:

"One of the surprises was to see Fleetwood Mac singer and pianist Christine McVie in the audience for a show in Canterbury, England, he said."


Oh, this is just what I had been waiting to read. I was hoping Mick would talk about her. Mention staying at her house, etc.

Michele

[Gailh]

As rep0rted in a Canadian Web site,
http://mdislander.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8151&Itemid=39
on Friday, Dec. 5th, Christine attended a Fleetwood blues band performance when they played in Canterbury in October. Quoting Mark Johnstone, the band's keyboardist:

"One of the surprises was to see Fleetwood Mac singer and pianist Christine McVie in the audience for a show in Canterbury, England, he said."

Maybe there's no more to it than she only had to travel a few miles to see Mick and Rick Vito again. But I'd love to know whether she discussed business with them before or after the show. New album?


I can't see why it was a "surprise" she only lives 4 or 5 miles away for christsake! Anyway wasn't Mick supposed to be staying at her house when they played Canterbury?

Maybe she charged too much and he changed his mind :laugh:

Gail

[Ulpian]

I can't see why it was a "surprise" she only lives 4 or 5 miles away for christsake! Anyway wasn't Mick supposed to be staying at her house when they played Canterbury?

Maybe she charged too much and he changed his mind :laugh:

Gail

I could see her as one of those chique owners of an expensive boutique B&B actually! I'd pay to stay there, though :laugh:

[Gailh]

I could see her as one of those chique owners of an expensive boutique B&B actually! I'd pay to stay there, though :laugh:

Me too!

You never know what with the credit crunch and all I bet her investments aren't worth as much as they used to be. Maybe she might need some extra cash?

She'd make a great landlady. "How d'ya want yer eggs - fried or boiled?" :laugh:

Gail

[Fannymac]

Hey, guys.....a newbie here!!!! Been trying to come aboard for years, but my e-mail address didn't allow it!
SO......MAJOR Fleetwood Mac fan, with alot of thoughts, experiences and stories (I even interned at Modern!).
But that's the past.....this post is about the future! Namely, Christine's new album!
As far as Pause & Play goes......Gerry is totally legit, with P&P being THE best website for new releases (as well as a lot of other great stuff!). I've helped him for years, and I can say he's TOTALLY on top of stuff! His dates are VERY current....of course, the upcoming releases are all subject to change, but he really stays on top of things.

As far as Christine's album goes......he actually got his first batch of info from here....someone had posted something about Chris being in the studio, working on a new album. After some more digging around, he went ahead and listed it. I've checked back here on occassion to see if there was anything new posted, but I haven't seen anything.

On a slightly different note, anyone else notice that the official website listed on Wiki takes you to Universal Music Group? Anyone hear of Chris signing with them?

[LukeA]

On a slightly different note, anyone else notice that the official website listed on Wiki takes you to Universal Music Group? Anyone hear of Chris signing with them?

In The Meantime was released by Sanctuary Records, which is a (now largely dormant) subsidiary of UMG.

[macfan 57]

As far as Christine's album goes......he actually got his first batch of info from here....someone had posted something about Chris being in the studio, working on a new album. After some more digging around, he went ahead and listed it. I've checked back here on occassion to see if there was anything new posted, but I haven't seen anything.

On a slightly different note, anyone else notice that the official website listed on Wiki takes you to Universal Music Group? Anyone hear of Chris signing with them?

Someone who regularly posts here, (Gail) had been in contact with Chris' manager, Martin Wyatt. He told her he was working with this record label to "re-work" ITM.

Just curious, but when you say "digging around". Is it possible that that this website got the new album info from Mr. Wyatt?

[aleuzzi]

Someone who regularly posts here, (Gail) had been in contact with Chris' manager, Martin Wyatt. He told her he was working with this record label to "re-work" ITM.

Just curious, but when you say "digging around". Is it possible that that this website got the new album info from Mr. Wyatt?

It sounds like we're not oing to get a bonafide new album, are we? It may be a reworking of ITM, which I would be glad to buy and listen to...Hopefully it will feature some new tracks on it. I still have my fingers crossed, however, that a full new album is coming.

[nicepace]

As far as Christine's album goes......he actually got his first batch of info from here....someone had posted something about Chris being in the studio, working on a new album. After some more digging around, he went ahead and listed it.

Oh.

That's too bad. Here's the thread where the rumour started that Chris was working on a new album:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=36723

That thread was started by someone quoting a friend. But there was no real clue as to who the friend was and whether his information was reliable. I personally dismissed it at the time as a baseless rumour.

Now we have another second-hand report from someone who claims to know the guy at Pause & Play, and claims he acquired some sort of verification of the above baseless rumour from another unnamed source.

Wouldn't stand up in a court of law!

I think that if there IS a Christine release in the future, it's far more likely to be the 'In the Meantime' re-working that we have heard about from an identified, reputable source (Martin Wyatt).

I hope I'm wrong. I'd love a new Christine album, but I'm not holding my breath.

[jbrownsjr]

I never did believe in miracles....

[Fannymac]

But why rework an album that, for all intents and purposes, is dead in the water, and has been for four years????? Just do a new album!!!

[Fannymac]

Oh.

That's too bad. Here's the thread where the rumour started that Chris was working on a new album:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=36723

That thread was started by someone quoting a friend. But there was no real clue as to who the friend was and whether his information was reliable. I personally dismissed it at the time as a baseless rumour.

Now we have another second-hand report from someone who claims to know the guy at Pause & Play, and claims he acquired some sort of verification of the above baseless rumour from another unnamed source.

Wouldn't stand up in a court of law!

I think that if there IS a Christine release in the future, it's far more likely to be the 'In the Meantime' re-working that we have heard about from an identified, reputable source (Martin Wyatt).

I hope I'm wrong. I'd love a new Christine album, but I'm not holding my breath.

I'm not "claiming" anything.....feel free to contact Gerry at P&P!

[jbrownsjr]

I'm not "claiming" anything.....feel free to contact Gerry at P&P!

I believe you...

[Gailh]

I never did believe in miracles....


But I've a feelin it's time to try

Gail

[Ulpian]

I'm not "claiming" anything.....feel free to contact Gerry at P&P!

Oh dear. Could it be that, in fact, all of this rumour-mongering is our fault? I would hope that Pause and Play takes more than our board's word for it that something is going on!

I do hope there's a new album coming, but yeah, I'd buy the reworked ITM. Hell, I'd buy "Christine McVie reads her utility bills aloud".:laugh:

[Gailh]

Oh dear. Could it be that, in fact, all of this rumour-mongering is our fault? I would hope that Pause and Play takes more than our board's word for it that something is going on!

I do hope there's a new album coming, but yeah, I'd buy the reworked ITM. Hell, I'd buy "Christine McVie reads her utility bills aloud".:laugh:

There's already a great deal of support for "Christine Reads the Telephone Directory" - perhaps the Utility Bills could be bonus tracks? :laugh:

Gail

[SteveMacD]

I do hope there's a new album coming, but yeah, I'd buy the reworked ITM. Hell, I'd buy "Christine McVie reads her utility bills aloud".:laugh:
Better still: Christine McVie reads Mick Fleetwood's utility bills aloud...

[dcl1964]

I'm getting to the point where I'm sorry I even started this thread. Live and Learn.

[aleuzzi]

I'm getting to the point where I'm sorry I even started this thread. Live and Learn.

Why? The discussion has been very good.

[Gailh]

Why? The discussion has been very good.


I've enjoyed it

Gail

[nicepace]

Why? The discussion has been very good.

It's a whole lot better than no discussion at all on this board, which has sometimes been the case.

[jbrownsjr]

I'm getting to the point where I'm sorry I even started this thread. Live and Learn.

I'm glad you started it... and grateful

[SandyMac]

I can't believe I'm gonna' say this, but I'm glad she left. I wasn't initially, but Say You Will was the most interesting FM record since Tusk, and In the Meantime was among Christine's best music of her entire career. Everyone seemed to benefit--at least on the records--from this new configuration: Stevie and Lindsey had more space to stretch and experiment, not always successfully; and Christine had a chance to prove to the world--and herself--that an entire record of her songs could be as exciting and rewarding as any MAC blockbuster of yore.

Think of the great songs that probably never would have made it to record had the band continued with the Rumors lineup: "Everybody Finds Out"; "Murrow"; "Bad Journey," "Forgiveness," and "Calumny."

I am late in reading this thread, but wanted to say this is a great post. I was sad at Christine leaving, but everything happens for a reason and great songs were created.

[billwebster]

Sorry for bumping the old wrong rumour, but I hope maybe if we speak out, people from record companies are going to notice that there is demand again for a new Christine McVie solo album.
What do you think?

[HomerMcvie]

Sorry for bumping the old wrong rumour, but I hope maybe if we speak out, people from record companies are going to notice that there is demand again for a new Christine McVie solo album.
What do you think?

The sales were pretty dismal for the last one, so good luck with that.

What she needs to do, is RECORD another album with FM!

[Gailh]

The sales were pretty dismal for the last one, so good luck with that.

What she needs to do, is RECORD another album with FM!

Well yes that would be good

If they all wanted to do it they'd find a way but I doubt the will is there for that.

Gail

[Fannymac]

People, remember.....Christine is pushing 70!! She's earned the right to just relax and enjoy the rest of her life!
Would I like to see a new solo album or some work with FM? Of course.....but it ain't gonna happen!!

[SteveMacD]

People, remember.....Christine is pushing 70!! She's earned the right to just relax and enjoy the rest of her life!
Would I like to see a new solo album or some work with FM? Of course.....but it ain't gonna happen!!
EXACTLY! She was ready to call it quits almost 20 years ago. We got WAY more out of Christine than even she expected.

Enjoy what she did, accept that it's all you're gonna get, and maybe listen to other music (there's a whole world of it out there) instead of wishing she'd release another project.

[Street_Dreamer]

What needs to happen is for the re-release of her concert and the laserdisc documentary on DVD.

Matt

[ButterCookie]

People, remember.....Christine is pushing 70!! She's earned the right to just relax and enjoy the rest of her life!
Would I like to see a new solo album or some work with FM? Of course.....but it ain't gonna happen!!

After great discussion and speculation, a friend and I have come to the conclusion that Christine just wants us to believe she's living a quiet life in Kent.

She's secretly a mafia boss. :cool:

[Gailh]

After great discussion and speculation, a friend and I have come to the conclusion that Christine just wants us to believe she's living a quiet life in Kent.

She's secretly a mafia boss. :cool:

I think she is actually Lady GaGa - I mean have you ever seen them in the same room together? :laugh:

Gail

[PenguinHead]

:laugh: good one! Better still: Christine McVie reads Mick Fleetwood's utility bills aloud...