Election results

[DavidMn]

First results are in from Dixville Notch, New Hampshire:







Obama 15


McCain 6




Also, this is the first time this town has voted in favor of a Democrat since Minnesota's own Hubert Humphrey in 1968.

[BombaySapphire3]

First results are in from Dixville Notch, New Hampshire:







Obama 15


McCain 6


Also, this is the first time this town has voted in favor of a Democrat since Minnesota's own Hubert Humphrey in 1968.

Awesome news I hope this is a harbinger for the rest of election day.!:thumbsup:

[LukeA]

Awesome news I hope this is a harbinger for the rest of election day.!:thumbsup:

Yeah, because it worked out so well for Humphrey too :rolleyes: LOL

[BombaySapphire3]

Yeah, because it worked out so well for Humphrey too :rolleyes: LOL

Aren't you a beacon of postive thought.

[Musicman408]

Wow, how are we getting results so early? That's awesome!!

Go Obama

I swear, if he doesn't win tonight, I'm on the first flight out to Costa Rica!

[GODDESS6]

i am so excited about this damn election i couldn't sleep since 3 this morning~
go obama!!!~

[Musicman408]

i am so excited about this damn election i couldn't sleep since 3 this morning~
go obama!!!~

I know, right?

The winner of this election will get 80 million votes.

[GODDESS6]

I know, right?

The winner of this election will get 80 million votes.

i have a 10 hour wrk day ahead of me too~ thank go for coffee so i can stay awake~

[estranged4life]

According to what has been ALREADY stated on the morning news here in Oklahoma, McCain will win this state (Once again, This state that is a majority of Democratic voters , voted against their own party's Presidential candidate) and just about any candidate listed on the ballot that has the "L" word ("Liberal") attached to their history will be going down in flames (A Moderate/Conservative Democrat can get elected in Oklahoma EASILY, Current 2nd term Gov.Brad Henry is proof - But a 'liberal' has ZERO chance...Weird, Oklahoma does have one openly gay member of state legislature, but he is a Republican, go figure)

[SuzeQuze]

Wow, how are we getting results so early? That's awesome!!

Go Obama

I swear, if he doesn't win tonight, I'm on the first flight out to Costa Rica!

Meet u in CR if he doesn't win.

[gldstwmn]

Awesome news I hope this is a harbinger for the rest of election day.!:thumbsup:

It certainly bodes well since they have long been an R town. I think today is going to be an amazing day.

[CharmedHour]

First results are in from Dixville Notch, New Hampshire:







Obama 15


McCain 6




Also, this is the first time this town has voted in favor of a Democrat since Minnesota's own Hubert Humphrey in 1968.



I saw that on the news this morning. I had to laugh. :]

[DavidMn]

Yeah, because it worked out so well for Humphrey too :rolleyes: LOLLuke, Humphrey didnt exactly get blown out by Nixon that election. Yeah he didnt win, but it wasnt exactly Mondale/Reagen in '84.:lol:

[TrueFaith77]

It certainly bodes well since they have long been an R town. I think today is going to be an amazing day.


That town also went for Obama in the Primaries though. . .

According to what has been ALREADY stated on the morning news here in Oklahoma, McCain will win this state (Once again, This state that is a majority of Democratic voters , voted against their own party's Presidential candidate)

Really??

[estranged4life]

Really??

although they won't announce it nationally since Oklahoma DOESNT APPEAR to be of importance to the NATIONAL ELECTION (The DNC hasnt even gave ANY support to Andrew Rice who could actually defeat Sen.Jim Inhofe for one of the two US Senate seats for the great state of Oklahoma), McCain already won this state.

So, the record of Republicans winning each presidential election in my homestate in my lifetime continues (Last Democrat who carried Oklahoma - JFK)

[omigodstevie]

I just so so so so SO hope Obama wins. I really think he's going to, and I'm so excited!!


GOOOBAMA!

[Chrislit18]

My friend Chelsea has on her Facebook that she is 'ready for the obama-nation', i said, 'yeah, obama-nation = abomination'

:rolleyes:
I have no life, and I thought that was funny.

But no really I am a republican, but I could care less about this election. :lol:
I thought that this thread would have more info about results...

[estranged4life]

but I could care less about this election. :lol:

I also could care less about this election, due to the obvious STRESS in my life (I went and bought a pack of cigarettes to calm my nerves) this election is a just a tiny/minor distraction from the real world that is NOW my life... :(

[LukeA]

I thought that this thread would have more info about results...

Well, ya know, the polls kinda have to close first.

[Chrislit18]

Well, ya know, the polls kinda have to close first.
Yeah, but they're updated throughout the day constantly...

[LukeA]

Yeah, but they're updated throughout the day constantly...

You're confused. Official vote results do not begin to trickle out until the polls are closed.

[StandbackStevie]

GO OBAMA GO OBAMA AND GO ALL DEMOCRATS WE NEED A BIG CHANGE AND GET RID OF THE NARROW MINDED REPUBLICAN BASTARD'S:lol:

[StandbackStevie]

I just so so so so SO hope Obama wins. I really think he's going to, and I'm so excited!!


GOOOBAMA!

YA GIRL OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA BABY IT WILL BE AN OBAMANATION TONIGHT BABY.:thumbsup:

[GODDESS6]

YA GIRL OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA BABY IT WILL BE AN OBAMANATION TONIGHT BABY.:thumbsup:

i am dying over here waiting to see who wins~ i have movies that i rented i need to watch & i don't want to watch them now, i just want to watch the news~

[StandbackStevie]

i am dying over here waiting to see who wins~ i have movies that i rented i need to watch & i don't want to watch them now, i just want to watch the news~

Me Too Girl I am dying here too with ya I am making a big margarita frozen of course to get the edge off for the results I am praying to all the political gods and hope our dreams come true and get us back into shape. And I feel Obama is the right man to do that he is like an angel from heaven to me a breathe of fresh air.:angel:

[GODDESS6]

Me Too Girl I am dying here too with ya I am making a big margarita frozen of course to get the edge off for the results I am praying to all the political gods and hope our dreams come true and get us back into shape. And I feel Obama is the right man to do that he is like an angel from heaven to me a breathe of fresh air.:angel:

his granny is watching over him, she'll send the votes over, i just know it:nod::D~

[LukeA]

I'm calling Indiana for Obama.

[estranged4life]

Interesting, Oklahoma has a new political party I am guessing that replaces the Democrats:

Deomocrats???


I think the state races are more intriguing, The GOP's of Oklahoma may, for the first time in history, have control of the state senate.

The local news says John McCain's biggest win over Obama may occur in either the states of Oklahoma or Utah...

and you can call Oklahoma for McCain (Though polls are still open until 7pm CST)

(I'm trying to pay attention even though sometimes I don't feel like it - trying to go forward is HARD!)

[David]

California has just fallen into the hands of Taiwanese pirates! :(

[estranged4life]

^^^Shatner takes Quebec :D

[estranged4life]

Obama takes Pennsylvania and New 'Joisey'

[BombaySapphire3]

Florida does not look good for McCain at this moment if he loses this he MUST get PA. or the night is over for him ..

[estranged4life]

Electoral count:

Obama 103
McCain 34

270 needed to win

[estranged4life]

Florida does not look good for McCain at this moment if he loses this he MUST get Pennslyvania or the night is over for him ..

has already called Pennsylvania for Obama...I think this election is going to end VERY QUICKLY.

[BombaySapphire3]

has already called Pennsylvania for Obama...I think this election is going to end VERY QUICKLY.

I knew my home state would not let me down.

[estranged4life]

^^^Stevie Wonder could've seen the result here in Oklahoma...No shock at all (But it still confuses me because this is a state with 300,000 more registered Demos than Repubs :shrug: )

Obama takes Illinois and Maryland

[estranged4life]

McCain leading in Virginia and Indiana
Obama leading in Florida

[estranged4life]

McCain takes Alabama and Georgia

[LukeA]

McCain leading in Indiana


As I said, hours ago, Obama will win Indiana. Vigo County never lies.

[estranged4life]

Electoral count:

Obama 103
McCain 58

[estranged4life]

As I said, hours ago, Obama will win Indiana. Vigo County never lies.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27540321?GT1=43001

Exit poll data positive for Obama in Va., Ind.

Democrat appears to be running strong in two early bellwether states
By Tom Curry
National affairs writer

NEW YORK -
In two crucial states where polls closed early Tuesday, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama appeared to be performing strongly, NBC News exit polling indicated.

In Indiana, Obama received 55 percent of the votes cast by women, according to exit poll interviews, while he was tied with Republican John McCain among men.

Indiana has not voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1964, but the Obama campaign made the state a focus of its strategy.

Among white voters interviewed in Indiana, Obama and McCain were nearly tied, while Obama won nearly nine out of 10 black voters in the state.

Sixty-three percent of Indiana voters between the ages of 18 and 24 voted for Obama. The only age group McCain was winning in the state was the over-65 voters, with 59 percent.

Exit poll interviews are samples of the entire electorate — so the data should be viewed cautiously in states such as Indiana, where the race is considered too close to call.

Also running strong in Virginia
In Virginia, Obama won the votes of 52 percent of men and 56 percent of women, according to exit poll interviews.

Virginia, like Indiana, has not supported a Democratic presidential candidate since 1964.

Obama was winning more than three-fifths of younger voters in Virginia.

Among white Virginia voters, exit poll interviews suggested that McCain was winning 58 percent of them, while Obama was winning 92 percent of black voters in the state.

The proportion of black voters in Virginia appeared to be the same as it was in the 2004 election: about one-fifth.

National pessimism about the economy
In the national exit poll sample it appeared that the electorate is worried about its sinking economic fortunes,

According to early NBC News exit poll interviews with voters on Election Day, more than nine out of ten voters interviewed said economic conditions in America are “not so good” or “poor.”

Nearly the same percentage said they were very worried or somewhat worried about the future course of the economy.

And six in 10 voters picked the economy as the most important issue facing the nation.

Such pessimism is usually a grim omen for the party in control of the White House. In the elections of 1992, 1980, 1960 and 1932, economic distress, to some degree, resulted in the party in control of the presidency losing the White House.

This pessimism is hardly surprising, given the decline in personal income reported last week by the Commerce Department.

Disposable personal income decreased by $102.4 billion, or nearly 4 percent in the third quarter of 2008, in contrast to an increase of $409.3 billion, or nearly 17 percent in the second quarter.

Contrast with 2004
When voters went to the polls in 2004, they were nearly evenly split about the condition of the economy, with 47 percent saying it was in excellent or good shape and 52 percent saying it was in fair or poor shape.

The economic pessimists in 2004 tended to vote for Democratic candidate Sen. John Kerry, with nearly 80 percent of them supporting him.

Those who were feeling upbeat about the economy in 2004 voted Republican, with nearly 90 percent of them backing President Bush.


In 2004, voters were closely divided over the direction of the country. Almost half said the country was going in the right direction; a bit fewer than half said America was on the wrong track.

But this year, 76 percent of voters interviewed in the NBC exit poll said the country is “seriously off on the wrong track.”

Seven out of ten voters interviewed said they were very or somewhat worried about another terrorist attack on the United States, a level unchanged from four years ago.

But only 9 percent of the voters interviewed in the exit poll said terrorism was the most important issue facing the country.

From the early exit polling, based on a sample of about 10,000 voters in Election Day exit polls and telephone interviews, a preliminary portrait of the electorate was emerging:

Two-thirds of those interviewed said they favor drilling for oil offshore in U.S. waters where it is not allowed now.
More than half said they oppose the $700 billion government plan to help failing financial companies.
About one in ten voters were voting for the first time – which is the same level of first-time voters as four years ago.
Black voters made up an estimated 13 percent of the electorate, just a bit higher than four years ago.
Latinos accounted for an estimated 8 percent of the electorate, the same as four years ago.

© 2008 msnbc.com

[estranged4life]

Electoral count:

Obama 175
McCain 76

Obama takes New York, Minnesota & Wisconsin
McCain takes Kansas, Wyoming, N.Dakota & Hill-Billy Central (aka Arkansas)

[sara1998]

As I said, hours ago, Obama will win Indiana. Vigo County never lies.

I would give life and limb for Obama to win Indiana. It's never been blue in my lifetime...

Chewing nails... had to come say hi to you guys.

[estranged4life]

It's weird how Obama has leads in the major metropolitan areas of Oklahoma (OKC, Tulsa & Norman for example), and yet he is still losing...

Even weirder is how Republicans nationwide are having a bad night, but those here in Okie-land are EASILY winning elections.

Obama claims Ohio & New Mexico
McCain takes Louisiana & W.Virginia
Indiana is too close to call with McCain holding a slight lead

Electoral vote

Obama 200
McCain 90

[BombaySapphire3]

Obama just took Ohio..he is the next President of the United States of America!.:blob2::blob2::blob1: bye Sarah.:wavey:

[LukeA]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27540321?GT1=43001

Exit poll data positive for Obama in Va., Ind.


That's nice.

Didn't need to wait for the polls to close. Once I saw Vigo County (and a few others, including Wells), I knew Gramps was done for in Hoosierland. This was a ruby red state 30-45 days ago.

[estranged4life]

It's over but the singing if ya ask me...

But then FLOR-I-DUH is still out there, and probably still clueless on HOW to vote :D

[BombaySapphire3]

It's over but the singing if ya ask me...

But then FLOR-I-DUH is still out there, and probably still clueless on HOW to vote :D
President elect Barack Obama just got New Mexico as well ..it's over.

[estranged4life]

Three words that will haunt the GOP in this election:

Bush
Bush
Bush

Damn, McCain won Texas

Obama 200
McCain 124

[gldstwmn]

Would anyone care to join me in chorus of The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down?
:D

[BombaySapphire3]

Would anyone care to join me in chorus of The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down?
:D

I have already been singing it all day but once more won't hurt.

[strandinthewind]

Would anyone care to join me in chorus of The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down?
:D

Yes, I would.

Unless something happens to California, Oregon, Washington state, etc. - Obama is the Prsident elect.

I am happy for him, the country, and myself.

[BombaySapphire3]

Yes, I would.

Unless something happens to California, Oregon, Washington state, etc. - Obama is the Prsident elect.

I am happy for him, the country, and myself.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry with joy, actually I am doing some of both.The only thing that could happen out here to stop us going for Obama would be if the big one hit and we all broke off into the sea ..which is something the McCain campaign is likely desperately hoping for at this point.:lol:

[estranged4life]

The Far leftist in California? HUH? 527's??? Man, Inhofe is OFF his rocker if he thinks us Okies care what those Hollyweird Assclaps have to say - WE DON'T!!!! Please Sen.Inhofe STFU!!!!

Back to the chorus of "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down"....and YES, I have cd's of the Band in my collection :D

[SuzeQuze]

Yes, I would.

Unless something happens to California, Oregon, Washington state, etc. - Obama is the Prsident elect.

I am happy for him, the country, and myself.

I'm happy for you too! (Plus Obama and the country. Oh yeah, and me too)

[estranged4life]

The only thing that could happen out here to stop us going for Obama would be if the big one hit and we all broke off into the sea ..which is something the McCain campaign is likely desperately hoping for at this point.:lol:

according to the Discovery Channel when CA finally sinks Oklahoma will be the new West Coast - and I will FINALLY have that ocean view I always wanted :thumbsup:

Hah, "Stuart Smalley" is winning in Minnesota...Weird.

Obama 207
McCain 135



I wonder since Andrew Rice was only 35, (and I'm older than he is) could I run against Jim Inhofe in 2012??? I could see myself as the INDEPENDENT U.S. Senator from the Great State of Oklahoma!!!

[strandinthewind]

^^^^

Oh - I cried tears of joy. I also am a little apprehensive about Obama. I am not really a huge fan of his, though I voted for him. The one thing I cling to about him is he is very smart and a constitutional lawyer, which is a good thing in a President.

Also, I am happy it appears Mary Landrieu (D-LA) is going to keep her seat. That is saying something in that state, which has turned very religious far right in the last eight years. On edit - she may lose it now, though half the precincts are not reporting and I belive that includes Orleans Parish, which is the largest and likely will support her.

I also feel a little sorry for McCain. I see only shards of the once mostly honorable man. But, he picked his path and now he has walked down it. Such is life.

Now, the nail biter of California's Proposition 8 :eek:

[LukeA]

Yes, I would.

Unless something happens to California, Oregon, Washington state, etc. - Obama is the Prsident elect.

I am happy for him, the country, and myself.

Nothing's happening here in Oregon :)

[strandinthewind]

Nothing's happening here in Oregon :)

Well, that is a good thing :cool:

Obama will likely take it though.

[BombaySapphire3]

^^^^

Oh - I cried tears of joy. I also am a little apprehensive about Obama. I am not really a huge fan of his, though I voted for him. The one thing I cling to about him is he is very smart and a constitutional lawyer, which is a good thing in a President.


Well as you knowI have been a constant and unwavering supporter of Barack so as you might imagine if a heart could burst for joy mine is very close to it.

[strandinthewind]

Well as you know have been a constant and unwavering supporter of Barack so as you might imagine if a heart could burst for joy mine is very close to it.

Mine too. I am a big ole softy in that I am soooo Capra esq.

In the end, if Obama can accomplish 1/3 of what he set out to accomplish, that will be a boon to civil rights that will last for, hopefully, decades.

[gldstwmn]

I would give life and limb for Obama to win Indiana. It's never been blue in my lifetime...

Chewing nails... had to come say hi to you guys.

Hi Maria! :xoxo:

[strandinthewind]

Hi Maria! :xoxo:

Ditto :xoxo::xoxo::xoxo:

[gldstwmn]

Yes, I would.

Unless something happens to California, Oregon, Washington state, etc. - Obama is the Prsident elect.

I am happy for him, the country, and myself.

Amen. What a ride this last 8 years has been.

[estranged4life]

Well as you knowI have been a constant and unwavering supporter of Barack so as you might imagine if a heart could burst for joy mine is very close to it.

his last name isnt EGO, er, Clinton!!!! Hehehehe!!!

A name nationally that Democrats better get used to hearing, Dan Boren (D) "from Muskogee" - this kid keeps getting re-elected and is even more popular than his father David Boren (D), the former US Senator...The sky is the limit for this kid. I'd love to see a hometown boy succeed!

[BombaySapphire3]

mnen. What a ride this last 8 years has been.

It has been something alright ..but to see such a light after these 8 dark and dismaying years is really a balm for the heart and soul.I feel as if I am getting my country back on this very night.

[estranged4life]

Okay, I voted for a Democrat for the third straight time...So y'all better win the DAMNED thing.


Interesting, for the first time in Oklahoma history the GOP have control of the state Senate...Don't know if I should be scared or not :shrug:




It appears Obama will carry Flor-I-Duh...Wow, they finally learned how to vote, I'm shocked!!!

[estranged4life]

Electoral:

Obama 207
McCain 138

[Musicman408]

SOOOOOOO Glad to see that Obama is going to win this thing. It's like a burden has been lifted off of my shoulders... I've been anticipating this thing for a long time and I know a lot of you all have as well.

[strandinthewind]

It is rumored McCain will concede within the next 15 minutes.

Wow is all I can say.

[estranged4life]

In about 10 minutes this election may well be over with, with the next wave of polls closing...But I think it's already over with (Just trying to stay awake to make sure)

Obama 207
McCain 142

[markolas]

Also, I am happy it appears Mary Landrieu (D-LA) is going to keep her seat. That is saying something in that state, which has turned very religious far right in the last eight years. On edit - she may lose it now, though half the precincts are not reporting and I belive that includes Orleans Parish, which is the largest and likely will support her.

North Louisiana has always been far religious right. I've never really liked Mary Landrieu, but I'm glad she'll be keeping her seat - wasn't she way ahead in the polls?

I'm pretending that the marriage props don't exist for now - I looked briefly at the returns and they don't look good. :distress:

[strandinthewind]

She currently is leading 50 to 48 with 78% of the districts reporting.

I like Sen. Landrieu. Then again, I am from there and understand where she is coming from perhaps more than others. I do readily admit she could be better, though that can be said about most I suppose.

[estranged4life]

It's over!!! Obama has OFFICIALLY been elected the next president!!!

[Moz]

It's over!!!

:shocked: I can't say I'm surprised, bit this is fantastic!

[SuzeQuze]

It is. HOLY CRAP!

[estranged4life]

As soon as the polls closed in CA he went over the 270, at 284 he won!!!

Congrats!!!

[danax6]

Congratulations, America.

Europe thanks you.

[gldstwmn]

OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE IS FINALLY OVER!!! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::]

[markolas]

She currently is leading 50 to 48 with 78% of the districts reporting.

I like Sen. Landrieu. Then again, I am from there and understand where she is coming from perhaps more than others. I do readily admit she could be better, though that can be said about most I suppose.

I'm from LA, too. I don't hate her or anything, and I realize she's about as liberal a senator as Louisiana will allow...the state in general does not generate positive feelings in me at all - of course, you're from the "good" part of LA. :lol:

[macpai]

It's amazing scene right now on television.

Congrats to Obama and all his supporters. And now ALL of us need to move forward together.

[markolas]

So that's what it feels like to pick a winner. :laugh:

[estranged4life]

Obama 306
McCain 145

Abso-tive Annihilation!!!

Colorado went with Obama...My kinda ancestral state!!!

[strandinthewind]

I'm from LA, too. I don't hate her or anything, and I realize she's about as liberal a senator as Louisiana will allow...the state in general does not generate positive feelings in me at all - of course, you're from the "good" part of LA. :lol:

I was born in Lafayette and lived in NOLA for a few years growing up. I also went to school in NOLA. So, S.W. and NOLA are my former areas. I know you know no one really gets Louisiana if you are not from there, though IMO not so much so for the Louisiana above Alexandria.

Also, McCain just called Obama and conceded.

[estranged4life]

I wonder how well Obama did with us Independents? I betcha he SLAUGHTERED McCain via the Independent vote.

[strandinthewind]

OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE IS FINALLY OVER!!! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::]

Obama appears poised to take Indiana and Florida :eek:

In theory, Obama could almost hit 400 electoral votes, though I am unclear on that yet.

[markolas]

I know you know no one really gets Louisiana if you are not from there, though IMO not so much so for the Louisiana above Alexandria.

North and south of Alexandria really are different worlds.

Also, McCain just called Obama and conceded.

I was honestly a little nervous a few hours ago, but...it's a little anti-climactic. I'm staying up for McCain's concession speech.

[estranged4life]

^^^^
He is already over the 300 mark...

Talk about an asskicking!

[markolas]

NBC just called FL for Obama. :blob2:

[estranged4life]

Hello Mr.McCain, This is my friend Mr.Humble-pie, Care for a bite? :D






Y'all dont think Bush will get us NUKED off the planet before January 20,2009 do ya?

[BombaySapphire3]

Hello Mr.McCain, This is my friend Mr.Humble-pie, Care for a bite? :D






Y'all dont think Bush will get us NUKED off the planet before January 20,2009 do ya?

McCain is giving his concession speech and as huge as an Obama supporter as I have long been and as blissed out as I am at this moment I can't help but feel a bit sorry for the old coot..Now to see Palin go back to Alaska though is a sweet icing on the cake.

[Enchanted_Stevi]

OBAMA!!!
WOO HOO
This deserves the "Barack Roll!!!"
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[strandinthewind]

North and south of Alexandria really are different worlds.

Lord Child - You ain't lying on that!

I was honestly a little nervous a few hours ago, but...it's a little anti-climactic. I'm staying up for McCain's concession speech.

I am watching it now.

1. If McCain had spoke like that in his campaign, he might have won.

2. I believe Palin is wearing one of the billions dollar outfits.

Also - there is a crowd outside the White House CHEERING :eek:

[estranged4life]

Now to see Palin go back to Alaska though is a sweet icing on the cake.

the striped colored STRIPPERS pole, lol!!!



And best of all, NO CLINTON in the White House :thumbsup: :blob1: :blob2:



Obama 333
McCain 155


Irony, the only state where McCain EASILY beat Obama IS my homestate of Oklahoma (Where the GOP has complete control of the state's House and now Senate - the Democratic Gov.Brad Henry is screwed for the next 2 years...Gee thanks folks!)

[Hawkeye]

He should've been pur president the past 8 years. It's ironic. george Bush ruined his chance to win in 2000 and after 8 years of crappy leadership he ruined it in 2008. Poor guy.

[markolas]

I am watching it now.

1. If McCain had spoke like that in his campaign, he might have won.

2. I believe Palin is wearing one of the billions dollar outfits.

Also - there is a crowd outside the White House CHEERING :eek:

It really was a very gracious speech. And I don't think we've seen the last of Sarah Palin, sorry to say.

[estranged4life]

Bush called Obama, Betcha that was a FUN phone conversation...

Obama shouldve pulled a Dave Chapelle styled "My name is Rick James...BITCH" and hung up on him :D

[strandinthewind]

He should've been pur president the past 8 years. It's ironic. george Bush ruined his chance to win in 2000 and after 8 years of crappy leadership he ruined it in 2008. Poor guy.

I know - well, at least the R nominee in 2000 :nod:

[estranged4life]

Indiana, Missouri and N.Carolina are still too close to call...(Obama leads in Indiana & N.Carolina...Montana too)

NOT that it MATTERS now.

Obama 338
McCain 155

[strandinthewind]

Indiana, Missouri and N.Carolina are still too close to call...(Obama leads in Indiana & N.Carolina...Montana too)

NOT that it MATTERS now.

Obama 338
McCain 155

Well, Indiana does in the sense that it was a solidly red state. Ditto for Missouri, which McCain is barely winning.

This is all rather much to comprehend.

[BombaySapphire3]

Well, Indiana does in the sense that it was a solidly red state. Ditto for Missouri, which McCain is barely winning.

This is all rather much to comprehend.

What it is is a seismic shift in American culture ..one that has been a long time coming ..too long IMHO..but better late than never.

[estranged4life]

What it is is a seismic shift in American culture ..one that has been a long time coming ..too long IMHO..but better late than never.

WHERE you live at, I'm afraid to see what happens here now that the GOP has control of the state. It's very odd, Democrats in this state got beat badly but nationwide they did great.

Here comes the next President of the United States of America!!!

[estranged4life]

Poor Jessie Jackson, out in the audience with a look of "That should've been me, not him" on his face.

[slipkid]

It really was a very gracious speech. And I don't think we've seen the last of Sarah Palin, sorry to say.

You betcha! *wink* :eek:

This election will only force the fringe elements of the GOP to work harder. They will claim under their own delusion that the moderate McCain is why they lost.
The fact is McCain was the only reason Obama didn't win this by 450+ electoral votes.

Limbaugh will say no one listened to him (yet he had a "good feeling" about this election Tuesday afternoon, the oxycontin will free him from this memory). McCain's choice of Palin was like a snickers bar. It was satisfying for an hour. After the economic woes since the summer, I think had McCain sucked it up with Romney this election would've been closer. Palin only appealed to people who were already going to vote for McCain.

[Sorceress]

I feel like Michelle Obama tonight--so proud of America!

[estranged4life]

Damned good speech...I think he has the potential to be as big a figure as JFK.

[sara1998]

Hi Maria! :xoxo:

Ditto :xoxo::xoxo::xoxo:

Hi! I miss you guys... but guess what??

WE DID IT!!! WE DID IT AFTER 8 LONG YEARS!

I am sobbing. :blob2:

[sara1998]

Well, Indiana does in the sense that it was a solidly red state. Ditto for Missouri, which McCain is barely winning.

This is all rather much to comprehend.

It looks as if Indiana will become blue! For the first time in my existance, I am living in a blue state...

[estranged4life]

I'm sure Debbie would be laughing at those she worked with who called anyone who voted for a Democrat a "Communist"...

I liked Obama from the get-go (Not my ideal candidate, but better than any other Democratic candidate), and he did it...

"Yes We Can"

[DeeGeMe]

I keep breaking into tears. I'm so happy. I still can't quite believe it. FINALLY!

[estranged4life]

It looks as if Indiana will become blue! For the first time in my existance, I am living in a blue state...

in Indiana, it is safe to say it is indeed a blue state:

Obama 1,317,500
McCain 1,301,358

Maybe someday I can have my state become blue...

[LukeA]

in Indiana, it is safe to say it is indeed a blue state:

Obama 1,317,500
McCain 1,301,358

Maybe someday I can have my state become blue...

?

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=782927&postcount=27

I'm not the kind of person to make such bold predictions unreasonably, or otherwise talk out of my ass.

[BombaySapphire3]

Damned good speech...I think he has the potential to be as big a figure as JFK.

True that ..isn't it great to have a President that can actually speak without embarrassing us all!:blob2:

[estranged4life]

?

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=782927&postcount=27

I'm not the kind of person to make such bold predictions unreasonably, or otherwise talk out of my ass.

latest tally with 99% precincts reporting:

Obama 1,347,142
McCain 1,323,629

So I think it is safe to say Obama carried Indiana :thumbsup:


I saw a local election where one candidate had 21,000+ votes, their opponent had 0 votes...Talk about a lop-sided election

[estranged4life]

True that ..isn't it great to have a President that can actually speak without embarrassing us all!:blob2:

I grew tired of the Bush's (Both of 'em) years ago...And now it is safe to say we have someone who SOUNDS more intelligent than that burning Shrub, who will become an * in American history after Jan.20

[Sapphire Girl]

The nomination of Obama as the 44th president of the US can best be summed up by Shakespeare-

The devil hath power
To assume a pleasing shape

[gldstwmn]

It has been something alright ..but to see such a light after these 8 dark and dismaying years is really a balm for the heart and soul.I feel as if I am getting my country back on this very night.

I actually felt a sense of pride in this country during Obama's speech that I haven't felt in some time.

[LukeA]

The nomination of Obama as the 44th president of the US can best be summed up by Shakespeare-

The devil hath power
To assume a pleasing shape

So, Sapphire Girl decrees Obama as the Anti-Christ.

Anyone else? Do we need an official radio-button poll on this?

[rubytuesday]

So, Sapphire Girl decrees Obama as the Anti-Christ.

Anyone else? Do we need an official radio-button poll on this?
lol. Mmmm fewer deaths overseas, more available health, a revitalization of the most powerful country......definitely a bad day for America. The anti-christ won.

[Johnny Stew]

So, Sapphire Girl decrees Obama as the Anti-Christ.

Anyone else? Do we need an official radio-button poll on this?
When someone would tell me that they weren't going to vote for Obama because of his positions on the various issues, or because they were concerned that he's not quite experienced enough, I could respect that. Those are legitimate reasons, whether I agree with them or not.

But it's beyond me how, in 2008, anyone out there could still be gullible enough to fall for the "he's the Anti-Christ" malarky.

Obama isn't the devil, liberals aren't communists, and the gays aren't going to turn your children into deviants. The end.

[LukeA]

When someone would tell me that they weren't going to vote for Obama because of his positions on the various issues, or because they were concerned that he's not quite experienced enough, I could respect that. Those are legitimate reasons, whether I agree with them or not.

But it's beyond me how, in 2008, anyone out there could still be gullible enough to fall for the "he's the Anti-Christ" malarky.

Obama isn't the devil, liberals aren't communists, and the gays aren't going to turn your children into deviants. The end.

For way too many, its the last grasp/hope in order to rationalize to themselves how someone who makes them feel so uncomfortable and threatened could attain the approval and validation from so many- character, positions, and intellect be damned (literally).

They *must* be unholy. There's simply no other otherworldly explanation.

[trackaghost]

America, I am so proud of you!

[GODDESS6]

America, I am so proud of you!

me too, was one helliva night~ even jesse jackson looked stunned & speechless, which i have never seen before~ i loved when the played "signed, sealed, delivered, i'm yours"~

[Musicman408]

Alright, a technical question here. Have they counted the absentee votes and stuff like that, because I definitely thought the vote totals would have been a lot higher. As of right now, Obama's got about as many as Bush did 4 years ago if I'm not mistaking.

[estranged4life]

I just want, for once in my damned lifetime, to have a feeling of a UNITED COUNTRY that my parents had when JFK was president...And that may have finally happened.


Oddly, this morning I am watching a news-story about Palin who may either run for President in 2012 or may become a star on television (Be it a talkshow or what-have-you)

[JohnL]

the highest of highs and lowest of lows here in Florida. I am very proud that Florida finally woke up and voted...I mean everyone voted...not just the old fogie stogies that live here. Young people were everywhere yesterday in the polling lines. And Florida voted for Obama. Yes...it is awesome!!

At the same time, Florida had a gay marriage amendment on the ballot. There is already a law in Florida banning gay marriage. Now we have a constitutional amendment. All Florida cities will soon eliminate domestic partner coverages and rights. All because of hate! I just cant believe people are so small minded. Sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, friends, co-workers are going to start being denied basic rights of a citizen just because of who they share their life and bedroom with.

It is a strange feeling...I love this country and cant stand it all at the same time.

[estranged4life]

At the same time, Florida had a gay marriage amendment on the ballot. There is already a law in Florida banning gay marriage. Now we have a constitutional amendment. All Florida cities will soon eliminate domestic partner coverages and rights. All because of hate! I just cant believe people are so small minded. Sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, friends, co-workers are going to start being denied basic rights of a citizen just because of who they share their life and bedroom with.

It is a strange feeling...I love this country and cant stand it all at the same time.


That similar amendment was on our ballot in 2006, and idiots voted it into power without HAVING read the wording of the law. Not only did the citizens of Oklahoma vote to define marriage as only between a man and woman, but they didnt realize they had also voted to abolish ANY type of relationship that in 'legal' terms a man and woman could have (ie 'Common law' marriage is now no longer considered a legal marriage in Oklahoma, so those who may have been together for years and were happy to have a relationship in that type of manner are now considered 'not married in ANY legal sense' and NOW have no rights or priviledges that they once may have had).

Oklahoma's Democratic leaders ENCOURAGED citizens to vote IN FAVOR of this law (Odd to see the TV ads where both Democrats and Republicans agreed on a major issue)...But not against it (Which is why I ask jokingly "What is the difference between an Oklahoman Democrat and an Oklahoman Republican? Easy, there IS NO DIFFERENCE" - Hell, one Democrat who lost last night in his election had a TV ad where the National Rifle Association gave him an "A-" rating and that same ad mentions how he was FOR 'faith based teaching in public school')

In the town I currently reside in, about 1000 citizens voted in its favor, only 3 voted against it: My late-much-missed wife Debbie was one vote and I was the second.

[strandinthewind]

the highest of highs and lowest of lows here in Florida. I am very proud that Florida finally woke up and voted...I mean everyone voted...not just the old fogie stogies that live here. Young people were everywhere yesterday in the polling lines. And Florida voted for Obama. Yes...it is awesome!!

At the same time, Florida had a gay marriage amendment on the ballot. There is already a law in Florida banning gay marriage. Now we have a constitutional amendment. All Florida cities will soon eliminate domestic partner coverages and rights. All because of hate! I just cant believe people are so small minded. Sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, friends, co-workers are going to start being denied basic rights of a citizen just because of who they share their life and bedroom with.

It is a strange feeling...I love this country and cant stand it all at the same time.


This is why Obama was such an important win. What will now happen is same sex couples who marry in a state that allows it will try and make non allowing states recognize their marriages.

Article IV, Sec. 1 of the U.S. Const. states:

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

What this means is twofold:

1. Each state must recognize a marriage performed in another state as is what happens now in hetero marriage. The plain language of the Constitution must override the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), 28 U.S.C. § 1738C, which states:

1. No state (or other political subdivision within the United States) need treat a relationship between persons of the same sex as a marriage, even if the relationship is considered a marriage in another state.

2. The Federal Government may not treat same-sex relationships as marriages for any purpose, even if concluded or recognized by one of the states.

DOMA will be found Unconstitutional and overturned.

2. If a state that disallows a same sex marriage but allows a hetero marriage without providing a legitimate and, perhaps, compelling reason essentially with, perhaps, no less restrictive alternative (See Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003)) - the state disallowing the marriage will likely be seen as violating Article XIV, Sec. 1 (the so called "equal protection clause" ) - which states in relevant part that:

. . . No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
____________________________________

Once The Supreme Court makes these findings, the R's most def. will then push to amend the U.S. Const. to make marriage solely between a man and a woman. Within that lang. will also be the prohibition of civil unions, which really have nothing to do with marriage.

I'd love to get Heather's (Mad4stevie) opinion on this rather fascinating Constitutional argument and the effect of the Obama justices on it.

In the end, I just cannot see why it is so important to deny same sex couples the same benefits accorded automatically by law to hetero couples. But, the majority of Christians in this country cannot let others choose their own paths. They want to impose their widely different versions Christian principles on the masses no matter the Const. prohibition against doing so.

[strandinthewind]

A cool read:

McCain's Campaign Derailed by Market, Missteps, Embrace of Bush
Edwin Chen and Hans Nichols Edwin Chen And Hans Nichols Tue Nov 4, 11:39 pm ET
Nov. 5 (Bloomberg) -- On Sept. 15, John McCain shared with a Miami audience his sense of foreboding at the unraveling of the U.S. financial system, warning that the nation was facing ``a strong headwind.''

What the Republican nominee didn't realize was that a headwind was also gathering for his presidential ambitions that would ensure his defeat by Democrat Barack Obama, 47.

McCain's campaign was derailed by the most hostile environment his party has faced in decades, with voters blaming Republicans for the meltdown of the markets, a looming recession and the burden of two wars. His troubles were compounded by his struggle to show leadership during the financial crisis, as well as the compromises he made to secure the nomination, which sullied his ``maverick'' image.

``It may have turned out that no Republican could have won,'' said media consultant Mark McKinnon, an unpaid adviser to the campaign.

McCain, speaking to a crowd of supporters in Phoenix after his defeat, said: ``It is natural to feel some disappointment tonight. Though we fell short, the failure is mine, not yours.''

When the market crisis reached its flashpoint in September, it crystallized McCain's problems: He was blindsided by events that few economists foresaw, yet his handling of the emergency also stoked doubts about his ability to take charge.

McCain, 72, had sought to calm nerves on Sept. 15 after the government bailed out the nation's largest insurer and the fourth-largest investment bank collapsed by declaring the ``fundamentals of our economy are strong.'' Obama pounced, calling him ``out of touch,'' and polls showed a growing perception among voters that the Arizona senator was weak on the economy, the issue that mattered the most to them.

A New Race

McCain then suspended his campaign and returned to Washington to help lead a financial rescue, advancing a series of proposals that lacked any organizing principle.

``The September financial crisis totally restructured the presidential race and put McCain and the Republicans forever on the defense,'' said party consultant Scott Reed, who ran Bob Dole's 1996 presidential race. ``The lead McCain had coming out of the GOP convention vanished and became an afterthought.''

Added Republican strategist John Feehery, ``If this were a car race, the financial package was the equivalent of a flat tire that McCain never seemed to be able to recover from.''

Link to Bush

McCain also never recovered from his association with President George W. Bush, who will leave office with some of the lowest job-approval ratings in history.

McCain had spent years cultivating the image of a Washington maverick, having led fights to curb campaign- spending abuses and wasteful congressional pet projects. Then, in a bid to attract the Republican base, he embraced the president's tax cuts and other initiatives. He was also among the most ardent supporters of the war in Iraq.

That enabled Obama to depict McCain as anchored in the policies of the administration and himself as the agent of change.

At the same time, McCain was unable to shake the perception that his campaign was unduly influenced by former lobbyists and Washington insiders, including campaign manager Rick Davis and top adviser Charles Black.

McCain headed into the race believing that unscripted town-hall meetings would be his ticket to victory. He had conducted more than 100 of them in New Hampshire alone, en route to a spectacular comeback there in January's primary. Such gabfests were designed to show off the real McCain -- allowing him to intersperse jokes and snippets of his life story with ``straight talk'' about America's problems.

`Double-Edged Sword'

Yet it was during town halls that McCain committed gaffes that would come back to haunt him. One occurred in December, when he said economics was ``not something I've understood as well as I should.'' The Democrats used that moment of candor against him for months.

``The town halls were a double-edged sword,'' Reed said. ``They allowed him to come back in New Hampshire, but after he became the nominee, he often went off-script and off-message. And that confused voters.''

Other McCain actions fueled skepticism about the man who first limped onto the national stage in 1973 as a celebrated ex-prisoner-of-war.

After losing the Republican nomination in 2000 to Bush, McCain began the 2008 primaries as the frontrunner, backed by the party establishment. The role didn't suit him.

As the oldest White House contender in a crowded field, he touted himself as the steadiest hand on the nation's tiller. That proved a difficult message to sell after he allowed his own campaign to spend into near-bankruptcy by the summer of 2007, while ignoring infighting among top aides.

`No Surrender'

Facing the imminent collapse of his White House run, McCain fired several senior aides, laid off others and launched a ``No Surrender'' bus tour that highlighted his call for victory in Iraq and his determination to soldier on with a low- budget, long-shot bid for the nomination.

Focusing almost exclusively on New Hampshire, McCain seemed energized to be rid of his frontrunner's mantle and pressed on with his insurgent campaign.

While his victory there paved the way to his nomination, he failed to prepare for the general-election campaign, even as Senator Obama of Illinois and Senator Hillary Clinton of New York were still fighting it out for the Democratic nomination.

``McCain had what most presidential campaigns would kill for -- an open field in front of them while two potential opponents were beating the hell out of each other,'' said Reed Galen, McCain's former deputy campaign manager.

It took McCain until May to open a field office in Ohio. ``That should have happened on March 1,'' Galen said.

Looking Desperate

For months, McCain also refused to criticize Obama for his past association with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, his former pastor in Chicago. When McCain finally began questioning Obama's links to William Ayers, a former terrorist, the belated attacks ``made McCain look desperate,'' Reed said.

McCain's selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin was also derided by Democrats and even some Republicans as a desperate attempt to hold onto the party's base, because of her anti- abortion views and support for gun rights.

While Palin, 44, galvanized Republican conservatives, her views and tenuous grasp of key issues drove away independents. Her selection also allowed critics to argue that McCain had made a mockery of his ``Country First'' motto by naming someone widely regarded as unprepared to be commander-in-chief.

The number of voters with doubts about her qualifications grew as Election Day approached.

Attack Ads

As he sagged in the polls, McCain unleashed blistering attacks on Obama that even some supporters found excessive. One McCain ad falsely claimed Obama had backed ``comprehensive sex education'' for kindergartners. On the stump, McCain questioned Obama's patriotism.

It was no small irony that McCain's tactics were the handiwork of campaign operatives who had worked for Bush and whose brass-knuckle tactics had buried McCain's bid for the Republican nomination eight years ago. The smear campaign included whispers that McCain had fathered a black child out of wedlock.

After denouncing the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003, McCain campaigned to make them permanent. He made up with evangelical leaders he had denounced as ``agents of intolerance.'' Once a champion of immigration reform, he now focused on border security.

Banishing Reporters

Another change came when McCain's top tactician, Steve Schmidt, banished reporters from his campaign bus, ending those rambling conversations that McCain credited with sharpening his thinking.

To further minimize the chances of McCain committing gaffes, Schmidt persuaded him to stop speaking off-the-cuff. Even in casual, small gatherings, McCain was reduced to casting furtive glances at note cards for his talking points.

Ultimately, it was the economy that did McCain in, playing to his biggest weakness and Obama's greatest strength.

The implosion of the markets ``just broke the back of the Republican Party,'' said Charlie Cook, publisher of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/a39d2uwjgtbi

[gldstwmn]

The nomination of Obama as the 44th president of the US can best be summed up by Shakespeare-

The devil hath power
To assume a pleasing shape


Have a nice day. God bless. :wavey:

[mylittledemon]

The nomination of Obama as the 44th president of the US can best be summed up by Shakespeare-

The devil hath power
To assume a pleasing shape

haha...well I wouldn't go THAT far.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

The nomination of Obama as the 44th president of the US can best be summed up by Shakespeare-

The devil hath power
To assume a pleasing shape

And what exactly makes you come to that conclusion?

[GoldDustOrphan]

She sees little devils everywhere. :)

[rubytuesday]

Today I wish I was American. It won't all happen in one day but you are allowed to feel that you will be safer now than you were before.

Now we can also see other news and catch up on whats been happening around the world.

[GoS]

Today I wish I was American. It won't all happen in one day but you are allowed to feel that you will be safer now than you were before.

Now we can also see other news and catch up on whats been happening around the world.

That is so true. I love the reactions of all the foreign countries, it will be great for the POTUS to no longer be a joke around the world (I remember seeing Roger Waters in 2005, before hating Bush was in fashion, and he had written on his inflatable pig "Impeach Bush now!")

(How often do you read the words "Inflatable Pig?")

[msLinds]

I am very happy Obama won.I don't normally post here.But when gldstwmn mentioned this song. I had not heard it in long time.So I looked it up on You Tube. Its kind of a cool song.I am posting two links for it.Because the first one is just from the old vinyl album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa39rAcvW-k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ksYL26lZE&feature=related


:wavey::woohoo: :thumbsup:

[estranged4life]

Talk about ironic, The total number of votes McCain received in Oklahoma was just 16 short of the same number Bush had in 2004...

All the local news broadcasts are now focused on how the Repubs have taken this state back from the Demos, and how guns sales have SOARED since Obama's win.

[GoS]

Talk about ironic, The total number of votes McCain received in Oklahoma was just 16 short of the same number Bush had in 2004...

All the local news broadcasts are now focused on how the Repubs have taken this state back from the Demos, and how guns sales have SOARED since Obama's win.

So can you guess where Obama won't be going soon?

I am soooooo excited about this eection, but I stayed up waaaaaay too late and am reeeaaallly tired. And, dispite what the irony in the last chorus of the song may suggest, it was a great day (Great day)!

[estranged4life]

Racial tensions here are going up very quickly (A high school fight happened today over race and Obama), but what did anyone expect from a state created out of racial prejudice - I even saw some IDIOT on TV state "Prepare for reverse-slavery"...and Native Americans are SPLIT on Obama - large tribes (Such as the Cherokee Nation, which I am a member of) are for Obama whereas smaller sized tribes are TOTALLY against Obama.

The local news just announced Obama will be making a visit here soon, and OF COURSE the gun issue remains at the forefront (Average gun sales per dealer pre-election were about 10 guns per day, NOW it is triple-digit per day).

Gee, this state is going to be FUN the next 2-4 years...

[Sorceress]

Racial tensions here are going up very quickly (A high school fight happened today over race and Obama), but what did anyone expect from a state created out of racial prejudice - I even saw some IDIOT on TV state "Prepare for reverse-slavery"...and Native Americans are SPLIT on Obama - large tribes (Such as the Cherokee Nation, which I am a member of) are for Obama whereas smaller sized tribes are TOTALLY against Obama.

The local news just announced Obama will be making a visit here soon, and OF COURSE the gun issue remains at the forefront (Average gun sales per dealer pre-election were about 10 guns per day, NOW it is triple-digit per day).

Gee, this state is going to be FUN the next 2-4 years...

Jesus, are you serious? It's scary to think that there really are people who are that nuts out there.
There is nothing but celebration here in Maryland.

[estranged4life]

Jesus, are you serious? It's scary to think that there really are people who are that nuts out there.
There is nothing but celebration here in Maryland.

I'm serious, but dont call me "Jesus" (Couldnt resist the ol' familiar line from the movie "Airplane", "I am serious...But don't call me 'Surely' ")

The Demos celebrated, but although not as openly as the Repubs. OK GOP party said the next couple of years they will try to pass more laws that are pro-family...oh brother.

[wondergirl9847]

Racial tensions here are going up very quickly (A high school fight happened today over race and Obama), but what did anyone expect from a state created out of racial prejudice - I even saw some IDIOT on TV state "Prepare for reverse-slavery"...

The local news just announced Obama will be making a visit here soon, and OF COURSE the gun issue remains at the forefront (Average gun sales per dealer pre-election were about 10 guns per day, NOW it is triple-digit per day).


Yeah, it's happening in Texas too. People going out buying guns because they think Obama will take away their rights to bear arms. I agree with Obama that assault weapon sales need to STOP. My dad owns guns...I don't really have a problem with people owning them, but those ginormous assault weapons are unnecessary.

As for the reverse slavery quote. LMAO! People's ignorance never fails to amuse me.

[Musicman408]

Yeah, it's happening in Texas too. People going out buying guns because they think Obama will take away their rights to bear arms. I agree with Obama that assault weapon sales need to STOP. My dad owns guns...I don't really have a problem with people owning them, but those ginormous assault weapons are unnecessary.

As for the reverse slavery quote. LMAO! People's ignorance never fails to amuse me.

Yeah, I think we need stricter gun regulations... Sometimes I just think it is too ridiculous.

[GoS]

Yeah, I think we need stricter gun regulations... Sometimes I just think it is too ridiculous.

Yeah, me too. Once, there was a bill to limit hand gun purchases to once or three times a month, and everyone was completely out raged? I just don't understand why.