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ajmccarrell
09-17-2008, 04:51 PM
Someone asked about crazed athiest attackers who try to kill people... Well, here's one. Nothing against atheists, but people of any religion, or no religion, can be crazy.

http://cbs4denver.com/local/russell.bowman.atheist.2.817933.html

estranged4life
09-17-2008, 05:00 PM
I wonder if Mr.Bowman is praying to God he doesnt lose his eye :shrug:


:D

ajmccarrell
09-17-2008, 05:06 PM
I wonder if Mr.Bowman is praying to God he doesnt lose his eye :shrug:


:D

I basically like your tag picture at the bottom, it just isn't supported by the facts. Just take a trip to China or read up on the former Soviet Union to see atheism's death toll. Nothing against atheism, but people will use any religion, or no religion, or any ideological means necessary, to rape, kill, control and oppress other people.

estranged4life
09-17-2008, 05:09 PM
I basically like your tag picture at the bottom, it just isn't supported by the facts. Just take a trip to China or read up on the former Soviet Union to see atheism's death toll. Nothing against atheism, but people will use any religion, or no religion, to rape, kill control and oppress other people.

you apparently take offense at something I find hilariously inaccurate - Terrorism would exist even if religion never existed.

ashton
09-17-2008, 05:46 PM
I would be fascinated to hear about how and why the subject of crazed atheist killers came up in the first place and who exactly asked about such an odd thing.

strandinthewind
09-17-2008, 05:57 PM
you apparently take offense at something I find hilariously inaccurate - Terrorism would exist even if religion never existed.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!

Musicman408
09-17-2008, 06:13 PM
Ugghh, crazy people like this scare me.:distress:

BombaySapphire3
09-17-2008, 06:24 PM
Ugghh, crazy people like this scare me.:distress:

uh exactly whom were you referring to the man with the shotgun ..the would be decapitating atheist or ajmcarrell?:lol:

GoldDustOrphan
09-17-2008, 06:26 PM
The AP story has been corrected elsewhere.
The shotgun-owner - referred to as "another neighbor" - is actually a roommate of the two women.
Bowman was drunk and did lose the eye.
There was also a history of conflict between the two households. Bowman filed an earlier report claiming he was being harassed, which doesn't excuse what he did.

gldstwmn
09-17-2008, 06:32 PM
uh exactly whom were you referring to the man with the shotgun ..the would be decapitating atheist or ajmcarrell?:lol:

Lolz. :laugh: Go read up on China and the Soviet Union you fools!

ajmccarrell
09-17-2008, 08:24 PM
you apparently take offense at something I find hilariously inaccurate - Terrorism would exist even if religion never existed.


Sure it would. You don't think some other excuse would be used to kill people? If it wasn't religion it would be something else. It's like blaming guns for killinjg people. In places where guns aren't allowed, people use knives or whatever else they can get their hands on. Religion isn't the problem, people are the problem.

ajmccarrell
09-17-2008, 08:25 PM
uh exactly whom were you referring to the man with the shotgun ..the would be decapitating atheist or ajmcarrell?:lol:

A perfect example of YOU making the argument about me and not me doing it. :wavey:

mylittledemon
09-17-2008, 08:26 PM
I wonder if Mr.Bowman is praying to God he doesnt lose his eye :shrug:


:D

hahahaha. genius.

ajmccarrell
09-17-2008, 08:27 PM
I would be fascinated to hear about how and why the subject of crazed atheist killers came up in the first place and who exactly asked about such an odd thing.

it came up in other conversations where religion was blamed for killing people and someone asked me in I could find an example of athiesm killing people. Besides the obvious examples of Stalin and Pol Pot killing millions of people in the name of athiesm, more than religion ever killed, here was this bozo on the news.

estranged4life
09-17-2008, 08:29 PM
If it wasn't religion it would be something else. It's like blaming guns for killinjg people.

guns don't kill people, Bullets do!

Ban the bullet and the gun is a useless prop.

:thumbsup:

ajmccarrell
09-17-2008, 08:29 PM
Lolz. :laugh: Go read up on China and the Soviet Union you fools!

Pol Pot and Stalin both killed people to stop religion from spreading. They killed in the name of athiesm and if you believe the body count, they killed more people than any religious war ever did. This is documented historical fact people, again, very basic stuff; if you would take your heads out of your asses and listen to something besides party line. :wavey:

ajmccarrell
09-17-2008, 08:30 PM
guns don't kill people, Bullets do!

Ban the bullet and the gun is a useless prop.

:thumbsup:

Ah, I get it. So, if you can't defend your position, make jokes so you seem like you have a point. :laugh:

BombaySapphire3
09-17-2008, 08:34 PM
Pol Pot and Stalin both killed people to stop religion from spreading. They killed in the name of athiesm and if you believe the body count, they killed more people than any religious war ever did. This is documented historical fact people, again, very basic stuff; if you would take your heads out of your asses and listen to something besides party line. :wavey:

I am certain that she understands those particular parts of history quite well and the Democratic "party line" does not deny any of it occured :rolleyes:.Do you really want to go down this road again?

ajmccarrell
09-17-2008, 08:37 PM
I am certain that she understands those particular parts of history quite well and the Democratic "party line" does not deny any of it occured :rolleyes:.Do you really want to go down this road again?

If she understood it, she wouldn't be making that point because it is obviously wrong, unless she is wrong on purpose. It's not a matter of opinion, it isn't even debatable. The democratic party line simply ignores the point and pretends it doesn't exist, rather then deny history. For those who follow the party line, it appears that history only begins the day you are born. Russian or European terrorists don't use religion, so the point is false on it's face. As Standy said, "Res ipsa loquitur".

GoldDustOrphan
09-17-2008, 08:38 PM
I believe history begins at conception.

BombaySapphire3
09-17-2008, 08:39 PM
If she understood it, she wouldn't be making that point. The democratic party line simply ignores the point and pretends it doesn't exist, rather then deny history. For those who follow the party line, it appears that history only begins the day you are born.

Bud I'm really concerned you are cycling off of your meds again..that is one of the most preposterous things I have heard since Mooseilini last opened her trap!:lol:

strandinthewind
09-17-2008, 08:39 PM
. . . since Mooseilini last opened her trap!:lol:

she crossed her other leg while sitting?

ajmccarrell
09-17-2008, 08:40 PM
Bud I'm really concerned you are cycling off of your meds again..that is one of the most presposterous things I have heard since Mooseilini last opened her trap!:lol:

Based on what? What makes it preposterous? Because you say so? LOL! Point to some source, or else you're talking out of your ass. Again, you make the argument about me instead of addressing what I said. You really are incapable of debating ideas. You'd much rather take unfounded cheap shots, but then again, I don't expect more out of you.

estranged4life
09-17-2008, 08:40 PM
Ah, I get it. So, if you can't defend your position, make jokes so you seem like you have a point. :laugh:

to defend my position to you, simple as that...and I dont align myself down party lines as you stated earlier (Though it appears you do - kind of hypocritical dontcha think?)

Seems like when the Liberals members here show their facts, you answer by rambling and rambling not really making a case point that is totally comprehensible nor do you back up you words.

Over the years as a member here, I watched many such as yourself get burnt over and over again with the same style of debating the Democrats here...

And it seems your getting toasted in the same manner - Open mouth, insert foot and enjoy sandwich!

And unlike SOME, I dont post egotistical stuff such as "The difference is that your ego has no accomplishments to back it up."

Brian "Here before you arrived, will still be here when you're gone" j.

BombaySapphire3
09-17-2008, 08:42 PM
Based on what? What makes it preposterous? Because you say so? LOL! Point to some source, or else you're talking out of your ass. Again, you make the argument about me instead of addressing what I said. You really are incapable of debating ideas. You'd much rather take unfounded cheap shots, but then again, I don't expect more out of you.

You made the preposterous statement so you need to prove it..the burden of proof is not mine I'm afraid.

gldstwmn
09-17-2008, 08:42 PM
I believe history begins at conception.

Good one! :laugh:

gldstwmn
09-17-2008, 08:45 PM
If she understood it, she wouldn't be making that point because it is obviously wrong, unless she is wrong on purpose.

You're wrong! You're uneducated! Go read up on Stalin and Pol Pot you fools!
















Are you getting the point yet? :laugh:

estranged4life
09-17-2008, 08:46 PM
I believe history begins at conception.

Best statement yet!!! :thumbsup:

gldstwmn
09-17-2008, 08:47 PM
she crossed her other leg while sitting?

Bad ump bump! :laugh:

strandinthewind
09-17-2008, 08:47 PM
Bad ump bump! :laugh:

on festive occasions, I can be amusing :cool:

estranged4life
09-17-2008, 08:49 PM
on festive occasions, I can be amusing :cool:

us ol' Ledgies like ya.

gldstwmn
09-17-2008, 08:49 PM
You'd much rather take unfounded cheap shots, but then again, I don't expect more out of you.

We'd debate you, you just don't have any skills. When pressed, you simply change the subject to something else. That is not a debate. I'm kind of amazed at your inablility to stay on point. We've had some pretty legendary debates on here. Go read the archives.

mylittledemon
09-17-2008, 08:50 PM
Hey, cant we all keep this forum from returning to the way it was before that "other" fleetwood mac forum was formed earlier this year?

ajmccarrell
09-17-2008, 08:51 PM
to defend my position to you, simple as that...and I dont align myself down party lines as you stated earlier (Though it appears you do - kind of hypocritical dontcha think?)

Seems like when the Liberals members here show their facts, you answer by rambling and rambling not really making a case point that is totally comprehensible nor do you back up you words.

Over the years as a member here, I watched many such as yourself get burnt over and over again with the same style of debating the Democrats here...

And it seems your getting toasted in the same manner - Open mouth, insert foot and enjoy sandwich!

And unlike SOME, I dont post egotistical stuff such as "The difference is that your ego has no accomplishments to back it up."

Brian "Here before you arrived, will still be here when you're gone" j.

Again, you just attacked me and dodged my question. I did back up my position. I sent you to some readings, but you chose to ignore them.

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4076

Here is a nice summary of arguments made, so you won't have to read the entire books on the subject by Christopher Hitchens and the like.

ajmccarrell
09-17-2008, 08:53 PM
We'd debate you, you just don't have any skills. When pressed, you simply change the subject to something else. That is not a debate. I'm kind of amazed at your inablility to stay on point. We've had some pretty legendary debates on here. Go read the archives.

Why waste my time reading that tripe. I haven't changed the subject, no less than five times today I've asked the person responding to me to challenge my argument and not me personally. Try taking my positions down. No one has tried yet, they just accuse me of something. Come on, try it. LOL!

gldstwmn
09-17-2008, 08:53 PM
Hey, cant we all keep this forum from returning to the way it was before that "other" fleetwood mac forum was formed earlier this year?

Has nothing to do with that.

estranged4life
09-17-2008, 08:54 PM
We'd debate you, you just don't have any skills. When pressed, you simply change the subject to something else. That is not a debate. I'm kind of amazed at your inablility to stay on point. We've had some pretty legendary debates on here. Go read the archives.

irishgrl - Watching you gldstwmn and irishgrl debate others was worth the paying membership.

BombaySapphire3
09-17-2008, 08:54 PM
Hey, cant we all keep this forum from returning to the way it was before that "other" fleetwood mac forum was formed earlier this year?
you mean when we had great and interesting people like Amber ,dissention .Mari ,rickypt and others ?That would be a most welcome return IMHO.

mylittledemon
09-17-2008, 08:55 PM
Has nothing to do with that.

If you say so. I do trust you, after all...

mylittledemon
09-17-2008, 08:56 PM
you mean when we had great and interesting people like Amber ,dissention .Mari ,rickypt and others ?That would be a most welcome return IMHO.

I've actually forgotten the names of the one or two I managed to routinely piss off. No joke.

strandinthewind
09-17-2008, 08:58 PM
Why waste my time reading that tripe . . .

res ipsa loquitur - Id.

ajmccarrell
09-17-2008, 09:00 PM
res ipsa loquitur - Id.

Or superego.

estranged4life
09-17-2008, 09:13 PM
Terrorism would exist even if religion never existed.
^^^My statement

Sure it would. You don't think some other excuse would be used to kill people?
^^^Your statement

My retort: Huh? Did you misunderstand? Apparently so.

There can be terrorism without ANY religion EVER existing on this planet. Read some history books friend, white people (US Cavalry soldiers) terrorized the Indians for the wealth of land that was theirs, it was called the "Trail of Tears". How about how white people TERRORIZING those of a Middle-Easteren ethnic background for a TERROR act that they had ZERO part in (OKC Bombing). How about white people terrorizing blacks because of their skin color - So YES, three EASILY IDENTIFIABLE proofs that TERRORISM can be accomplished without RELIGION.

Terror exists without religion - and it will continue on and on and on...

Mad4stevie
09-17-2008, 10:26 PM
you mean when we had great and interesting* people like Amber ,dissention .Mari ,rickypt and others ?That would be a most welcome return IMHO.I know I haven't been around much . . . but did something happen???? :shrug:Come to think of it, I haven't seen them on here and they were always on here . . .:confused:

Sorceress
09-17-2008, 10:29 PM
If we ignore him, he might go away! Arguing with him only makes him feel more important.

BombaySapphire3
09-18-2008, 03:40 AM
I know I haven't been around much . . . but did something happen???? :shrug:Come to think of it, I haven't seen them on here and they were always on here . . .:confused:

Two of them left on their own and have not returned ..the other two were banned.:distress:

ajmccarrell
09-21-2008, 07:42 PM
:thumbsup:[QUOTEArguing with him only makes him feel more important.[/QUOTE]

Nope. I won't go anywhere. I love hearing myself talk. :lol: I've been on boards for years with tougher opposition than here and I'm still going strong after 5 years or more some places.

shackin'up
09-22-2008, 06:47 AM
Nope. I won't go anywhere. I love hearing myself talk. :lol: I've been on boards for years with tougher opposition than here and I'm still going strong after 5 years or more some places.

You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground, to quote Randy Newman in "Rednecks".

ajmccarrell
09-22-2008, 11:09 AM
You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground, to quote Randy Newman in "Rednecks".

Isn't this what you call a typical rude American style post that you accused me of making? I don't think I'd post anything that crude. :lol:

shackin'up
09-22-2008, 04:40 PM
crude? I just quoted one of the greatest songwriters in history.

ajmccarrell
09-22-2008, 04:53 PM
crude? I just quoted one of the greatest songwriters in history.

I love his work on Pixar movies. Yes, it was crude. Heck Shakespeare was crude on occasion too. Falstaff the opera was crude as well.

shackin'up
09-22-2008, 05:15 PM
I love his work on Pixar movies. Yes, it was crude. Heck Shakespeare was crude on occasion too. Falstaff the opera was crude as well.

Well, what's the problem then?

ajmccarrell
09-22-2008, 05:21 PM
Well, what's the problem then?

It was crude. I don't like crude. No biggie. :blob2: