Screwed @ Royce Hall 9/14/2008

[DaltreyPFD]

Hello fellow Fleetwood Mac fans. This is my first post and I want to preface it by saying I have been a HUGE Fleetwood Mac since 1977. I own everything from 1975 - the present. I have seen the band many times and Stevie solo. I have even seen the "Time" era incarnation of the band!! I had never seen LB live before until this past week and I was blown away!! His voice is perfect and he is one of the best guitar players I have ever seen. He is soooo underrated... hell he's not even rated! But, he is amazing. The show was a perfect mix of new songs (great), old solo songs and Fleetwood Mac songs. I absolutely give the show a 10 out of 10... so why was I "screwed"...

After the show ended I took my LP copies of "Go Insane" and "Tusk" outside and waited patiently by the tour bus for Lindsey to come out in hopes of getting an autograph. These LPs are for my personal collection. I have over 30 LPs signed, framed and displayed in my home. Everyone from Neil Diamond to Alice Cooper. It's a hobby and they look pretty cool too.

As I waited a few more fans gathered. I would say there were no more than 15 people including 2 in wheel chairs... I bring that up for what follows. After about 30 minutes LB appears. as he comes out to get in his car the fans approach... as LB begins signing (he only signed for 2 people) his wife begins to vocally oppose this impromptu autograph session... "No Lindsey! You can't do this tonight. We have to go. We have to put the kids to bed!" At that point Lindsey drops the pen and shuffles off to his car.

WTF!!! There were 15 of us!! No one was pushing everyone was polite. I have never witnessed anyone be so rude to their fans. It was truly disappointing given the fact that there was so few people waiting and to be honest... when will any of us have a chance to meet Lindsey again. This is not the way I would expect a musician of his caliber to behave especially to what he himself called a "hometown crowd." Remember Mrs. Buckingham... the mansion you are driving home to tonight was built with the hard earned $$$ that the fans have forked over for 30 years.

If anyone else has had a bad experience... or good for that matter. I would love to hear it.

[dougb]

Wow i am shocked he did that.If he is that pussy whipped I would be very disappointed. did he say anything before leaving? Did any one say anything to him to voice their disappointment?Also why does every show have to have his wife and kids there anyway?He needs to leave them at home.Also hes not as responsive this time around unlike say you will tour where he actually went out of his way for fans.very disappointing

[DaltreyPFD]

Wow i am shocked he did that.If he is that pussy whipped I would be very disappointed. did he say anything before leaving? Did any one say anything to him to voice their disappointment?


No one said a thing... his children were present so everyone was being very respectful which made the situation all the more frustrating.

[DaltreyPFD]

Also why does every show have to have his wife and kids there anyway?He needs to leave them at home.Also hes not as responsive this time around unlike say you will tour where he actually went out of his way for fans.very disappointing


I guess I understand having the kids there when daddy is playing at home but you know what... mommy could have taken the kids home right after the show so that daddy can finish the nights business which sometimes includes meeting the fans. If Pete Townshend can come out and meet the fans I think LB should too.

[LukeA]

Traditionally, Kristen has always looked down her nose at Lindsey's fans, so this is not entirely surprising. Over the years, she's made it pretty clear that she thinks we're a bunch of losers. All of that aside, though... she's still a pretty unpleasant person on various levels.

As for Lindsey, he does usually (although often begrudgingly) take the time to briefly meet with fans after shows. Many fans on this board have had their picture taken with him, etc. This is markedly different than his behavior towards fans on the Say You Will tour, where you never knew what Lindsey you were going to get after the show (especially at meet-n-greets) .

[DaltreyPFD]

Traditionally, Kristen has always looked down her nose at Lindsey's fans, so this is not entirely surprising. Over the years, she's made it pretty clear that she thinks we're a bunch of losers. All of that aside, though... she's still a pretty unpleasant person on various levels.

As for Lindsey, he does usually (although often begrudgingly) take the time to briefly meet with fans after shows. Many fans on this board have had their picture taken with him, etc. This is markedly different than his behavior towards fans on the Say You Will tour, where you never knew what Lindsey you were going to get after the show (especially at meet-n-greets) .

She was very unpleasant to put it nicely. If you don't want to meet the fans then sneak out!

[DavidMn]

I have to say that I have had several experiences meeting Lindsey, and he has NEVER been anything but polite to me and others. He has always taken the time to conversate and sign whatever fans had for him. I'm sorry you had a negative experience.

[DaltreyPFD]

I'm sorry you had a negative experience.

Me too. BUT I'm glad to hear you have had many great experiences.
I'm still a big fan but at first I was like... "Wait a minute... I'm supposed to go buy your new CD on Tuesday but this is how you're treating me?"

Needless to say I bought the CD.

[mylittledemon]

I have to say that I have had several experiences meeting Lindsey, and he has NEVER been anything but polite to me and others. He has always taken the time to conversate and sign whatever fans had for him. I'm sorry you had a negative experience.

He was nothing but nice to me as well. Then again, his wife wasn't around either. I don't think his family was with him at the show i was at. So, I guess in that sense I got lucky.

[TrueFaith77]

I hope he doesn't take them to ny!

[LukeA]

I hope he doesn't take them to ny!

Oh, he will. Sorry :(

[AliP]

Well, here is my experience. I've already posted about it in the Seattle thread, but I'm bored so I will do it again.

After the Seattle show, my brother and I waited at the back of the theatre hoping to get a picture and autograph. I have been to several FM and LB shows throughout the years, have amassed a huge collection of stuff, and, at this point, the only thing I really want anymore was to get a picture with LB.

At first, there was only two of us there. As people started coming out of the back of the theatre (Brett, Neal), two more people showed up. So there was a total of FOUR people there wanting autographs etc.

First Kristen comes out and then Lindsey. I said, "Lindsey can I please get a picture." Kristen gave me a snotty look, like "oh god, here we go again." I don't really give a lying flip what Kristen thinks, I have no interest in Lindsey other than being a huge fan of his music, so she just needs to chill. Lindsey looked over and said "suuuree," very very reluctantly.

He came over and I got a picture. He didn't smile or anything, seemed very uncomfortable, and just made a weird face. Then another person got a picture and two people got autographs really quickly. Literally, this took about about two minutes. He kept saying, "ok, I have to go. This is all I can do." Then he said "gotta go" and jumped in the car. He seemed very reluctant, very hurried, and just not in a good mood.

That is fine. But after reading how cool he was about signing autographs and taking pictures last tour, that was what I was expecting. I was pretty disapponted in the encounter. Granted, Lindsey doesn't have to sign or take pictures with ANYONE, but, by now, I think Lindsey knows his fan base is pretty small, but also very LOYAL. I don't care if he had to stay out for an hour to sign autographs and take pictures, I think he owes that much to his fans.

I guess I just didn't understand the reluctance and somewhat bad attitude. It kind of left me with a bad impression. I have tickets to another show, but at this point I'm debating about even going because of this experience. On a side note, Brett Tuggle came out before Lindsey and I did get a picture with him. He was so nice and very cool. He somewhat made up for the bad Lindsey experience.

[wondergirl9847]

Kristen totally has major bitchface during most fan encounters. That is pretty much fact at this point.

I met Lindsey back in January 2007 during the UTS tour in my hometown of Fort Worth (where the DVD was filmed) and Kristen was with him. She let him take his time and he took pics with people, signed autographs, chatted. It was very pleasant and not rushed. She got in the car and waited for him to finish. There were maybe 10 people back there that night. He was in a WONDERFUL mood too. I met him on other occassions too (Seattle, Denver to name a couple more) and he was really nice.

I think K (especially) and LB were in bad moods that night and I'm sorry to hear that, for the fans' sake. Everyone who waits out there (the TRUE fans and not some autograph hounds, I mean) deserves an autograph/pic as long as they are polite and patient, if you ask me.

Please don't take this to heart and I hope it doesn't tarnish anyone on Lindsey. He really DOES love his fans...trust me. :)

[dougb]

I know what you mean about bad mood in seattle. He was the same way in portland just kind of strange.i mentioned something about it to my wife but she said I read into things.But I'm glad he stayed and I was able to get a pic.

[DavidMn]

Me too. BUT I'm glad to hear you have had many great experiences.
I'm still a big fan but at first I was like... "Wait a minute... I'm supposed to go buy your new CD on Tuesday but this is how you're treating me?"

Needless to say I bought the CD.I'm not saying what happened to you was acceptable, but you have to consider he also couldve been a typical rock and roll star and looked at you and been like "Who the F**K are you, get outta my face."

[Moz]

Traditionally, Kristen has always looked down her nose at Lindsey's fans, so this is not entirely surprising. Over the years, she's made it pretty clear that she thinks we're a bunch of losers.

She's a moron. If you're going to marry a musician with lots of dedicated fans, there's going to be people who will want to meet your husband. If she doesn't want that, maybe she shouldn't have married him.

[DaltreyPFD]

I'm not saying what happened to you was acceptable, but you have to consider he also couldve been a typical rock and roll star and looked at you and been like "Who the F**K are you, get outta my face."


Whoa!! Hold the phone!! I respond nicely to your post and then this is what I get back??

First... Lindsey is NOT your typical rock star. If he was he wouldn't be playing Royce Hall a place that holds 1800 people and the tickets were on sale for $5.00 at GoldStar.com. Even with that ticket price the place was NOT full.

Second... His actions basically did say "Who the F**K are you, get outta my face." It was not cool. Maybe Lindsey saves his manners for Fleetwood Mac shows.

Third... Why would you respond so harshly to my response back to you??

[strandinthewind]

Traditionally, Kristen has always looked down her nose at Lindsey's fans, so this is not entirely surprising. Over the years, she's made it pretty clear that she thinks we're a bunch of losers. All of that aside, though... she's still a pretty unpleasant person on various levels.

As for Lindsey, he does usually (although often begrudgingly) take the time to briefly meet with fans after shows. Many fans on this board have had their picture taken with him, etc. This is markedly different than his behavior towards fans on the Say You Will tour, where you never knew what Lindsey you were going to get after the show (especially at meet-n-greets) .


I have to say I agree with this assessment of K based on some of the stories I have heard since 2003.

LB usually is way nice to the fans solo or otherwise. So, I am blamimng her, esp. with her "not tonight" outburst. Maybe she did not want to field any questions about the "artistic" photo on the cover of the new record :rolleyes:

[estranged4life]

I USED to enjoy meeting musicians, but after seeing many treat their fans (Not specifically LB - Never bothered to seek an autograph from LB) as if they are a nuisance instead of realizing that the said FANS paid for their 'lavished lifestyles', I quit caring to meet 'em.

[michelej1]

Maybe she did not want to field any questions about the "artistic" photo on the cover of the new record :rolleyes:


That's pretty funny! Hey, Warner Bros. already told Lindsey it looked like a mug shot. So, I guess she has had just a little bit of feedback.

Michele

[DaltreyPFD]

I have to say I agree with this assessment of K based on some of the stories I have heard since 2003.

LB usually is way nice to the fans solo or otherwise. So, I am blamimng her, esp. with her "not tonight" outburst. Maybe she did not want to field any questions about the "artistic" photo on the cover of the new record :rolleyes:


She photographed the cover? Interesting I did not check the liner notes as carefully as I thought.

[carol7lynn]

Gawd Lindsey sure can pick 'em! :laugh: Maybe there's "Trouble in Shangra-La"? Ten years and three kids could very well do it. What's she going to do when he does a full-blown FWM tour? Drag the kids from coast to coast to make sure Lindsey stays in line. Lawdy,lawdy!:laugh: Where'd he find this woman anyway?:confused:

Carol-Lynn

[michelej1]

She photographed the cover? Interesting I did not check the liner notes as carefully as I thought.

It just says photography by Kristen Buckingham. So, I have to assume that means all the photos in the whole thing.

Before I read that, I thought Lindsey had taken the picture himself. I thought that accounted for the strange camera angles, if he was just positioning the camera in front of him and clicking it remotely.

Michele

[LukeA]

Gawd Lindsey sure can pick 'em! :laugh: Maybe there's "Trouble in Shangra-La"? Ten years and three kids could very well do it. What's she going to do when he does a full-blown FWM tour? Drag the kids from coast to coast to make sure Lindsey stays in line. Lawdy,lawdy!:laugh:

Pretty much, yeah... stiletto boots and all, as was SOP in '03-'04 (http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.php?page=index_v2&id=455&c=9) At least for the cosmopolitan stops on the tour, that is (I doubt Kristen does Grand Rapids, if you know what I mean).

Where'd he find this woman anyway?:confused:


You don't want to know.

[Nico]

I met Lindsey in 2006 and he was an absolute sweetheart, could not have been kinder and more accommodating. It was freaking cold that night as well. Kristen wasn't there either...

I do think Lindsey is generally a moody man, though. I've read a few encounters, one from a book written by some groupie, where she met Lindsey with Kristen (possibly in '97) and he was apparently not nice and K was even worse, full-fledged eye-rolling, loud sighing, and even stomping. That's interesting.

I've seen her as well and she seems, from when I saw her, lovely. But I don't think it's cool if she's actually scoffing at fans. To be honest with herself, much of the comfort of her lifestyle is provided to her by a man who has made his money from these people, so respect, or some patience, is due.

But if the kids were with them...I might have to reconsider. I'm apt to be more understanding of parents with their kids and being protective and whatnot. Then again, 15 people...yeah, that wasn't cool.

Oh well. Maybe she's intimidated. She shouldn't worry about me. I think her husband is incredible but there's only one man in my life and even Lindsey can't compare. Sorry.:nod:

[Richard B]

Wow.
Try not to take it so personally. Lindsey is just a person you really do not know and he has good days and bad days. I'm sure he's real exhausted after a show, especially at his age.

Honestly, his wife may have been the one chosen to be "the bad guy" and to get him out of things he might not want to do.

Just cause you support him doesn't mean you control him and expect him to be a certain way, you're there for the music anyway.

[Nico]

I know what you mean about bad mood in seattle. He was the same way in portland just kind of strange.i mentioned something about it to my wife but she said I read into things.But I'm glad he stayed and I was able to get a pic.

I believe you. Like I said, he is moody with a capital M. I'd assume that since he's old-and-mellowed now, he was a PISTOL when he was younger. Like male-PMS and then some. I saw him NY when he smashed his guitar and I had very good seats and it was very much NOT in jest. That man was raging.

...I got to say I loved it though. He was hot when he was mad...

[Nico]

Wow.
Try not to take it so personally. Lindsey is just a person you really do not know and he has good days and bad days. I'm sure he's real exhausted after a show, especially at his age.

Honestly, his wife may have been the one chosen to be "the bad guy" and to get him out of things he might not want to do.

Just cause you support him doesn't mean you control him and expect him to be a certain way, you're there for the music anyway.

I agree with this. I generally don't expect anything from artists except their music. Meeting them is a bonus. Even though she has had several bad encounters, I still hold nothing against Mrs. Buckingham. Probably because she's a quieter type and seems like she's made Lindsey so happy. If she was loud-mouthed stark-raving mad wife shouting and cussing fans out I'd just think she was pathetic, but as is she's done nothing personal to me. And I think Love Runs Deeper is extraordinary.

[strandinthewind]

She photographed the cover? Interesting I did not check the liner notes as carefully as I thought.

If she did not and he paid someone else, no wonder she's a beeyotch :laugh:

[#1LiddyBuckFan]

Like DavidMN - He has always been nice when I have met him....REALLY nice. Like, I was shocked he cared about his fans so much kind of nice.

I guess everyone has different experiences.

I have never had a bad run in with Kristen either. When I saw her, she was always nice UNLESS someone was trying to talk to their kids or something. She's seems like a normal protective mother.

[DaltreyPFD]

Like DavidMN - He has always been nice when I have met him....REALLY nice. Like, I was shocked he cared about his fans so much kind of nice.

I guess everyone has different experiences.

I have never had a bad run in with Kristen either. When I saw her, she was always nice UNLESS someone was trying to talk to their kids or something. She's seems like a normal protective mother.

I'm glad you had a great experience. The point of this thread was only to relate my bad experience and to get some insight as to if this was normal or not. Thanks.

[#1LiddyBuckFan]

I'm glad you had a great experience. The point of this thread was only to relate my bad experience and to get some insight as to if this was normal or not. Thanks.

Then I guess by my account and a few others who added their good experience, it's not necessarily normal. We were just trying to add our two cents to help. Thanks. :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

. . . I have never had a bad run in with Kristen either. . . .

I met her once a long time ago at the Soundstage thingee and she was very, very nice to me. But, others have had horror stories.

[justcrazylove]

You all need to pull your heads in! the man doesn't need to say hi to everyone after the show, i have seen him 10 times and i am yet to meet him but i don't go waiting after each show expecting to.

[sands of time]

You all need to pull your heads in! the man doesn't need to say hi to everyone after the show, i have seen him 10 times and i am yet to meet him but i don't go waiting after each show expecting to.


totally...i'm almost embarrassed for the complainers in this thread...do you people KNOW how ridiculous you sound?

'screwed'? uh, not really...you would've been screwed if the show was cancelled an hour before it was scheduled to start and you wasted a trip to the venue...not getting an autograph may be disappointing, but you were never promised one in the first place...

you think buying someone's album entitles you to something other than the music? grow up...if someone is expected to warmly greet everyone who purchases their music, why even put the music out at all? if i bought two copies of the album, does that mean i deserve two encounters? how many shows do i need to attend to earn an invitation to dinner with the buckinghams?

oh, and by the way, lindsey's "mansion" was paid for with HIS hard-earned money, not "donations" from "fans"...

[DaltreyPFD]

'screwed'? uh, not really...you would've been screwed if the show was cancelled an hour before it was scheduled to start and you wasted a trip to the venue...not getting an autograph may be disappointing, but you were never promised one in the first place...



Hey Dummy! "Screwed" was a play on words because of the new album titled "Gift Of Screws"

Had the show been cancelled I would have only been out $5.00 since Mr. Buckingham's tickets were not selling.

Also... I did not expect an autograph just hopeful that it might happen. The point of this thread was to explain what my experience was not to trash the artist.

The bottom line is... if you have two fans in wheelchairs then at least make an effort to greet them don't shuffle off to your car like Woody Allen just because your wife yells at you.

Lindsey's actions toward those two fans was not very nice. Don't say from stage how excited you are to be in your hometown and then treat 12 hometown fans like crap.

[DaltreyPFD]

oh, and by the way, lindsey's "mansion" was paid for with HIS hard-earned money, not "donations" from "fans"...

One more thing... explain to me how Lindsey could have "hard earned money" without fans? That I would love to hear.

[justcrazylove]

you Paid $5 freaking dollars for your ticket! and your complaining, is there a reason why you have never posted before? i have flown from Australia for these concerts and i will not be pissed at Lindsey if i dont meet him or if his WIFE wants to go home and put her 2 children under the age of 11 to bed at a time that she feels suitable. On the ticket stub it states Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws tour" not Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws Tour and Meet and greet With fans and the disabled outside afterwards" Grow up man:distress:

[mylittledemon]

you Paid $5 freaking dollars for your ticket! and your complaining, is there a reason why you have never posted before? i have flown from Australia for these concerts and i will not be pissed at Lindsey if i dont meet him or if his WIFE wants to go home and put her 2 children under the age of 11 to bed at a time that she feels suitable. On the ticket stub it states Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws tour" not Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws Tour and Meet and greet With fans and the disabled outside afterwards" Grow up man:distress:

You are right. If you get to meet Lindsey, it's a bonus. I got lucky and things just lined up perfectly when I met him. He was very gracious.

Lindsey's got a family now, so you can't expect him to be hanging around too much.

I do think that if you approached Lindsey and had something for him to sign he would sign it. He signed a photo from the stage for me in jacksonville in 2004 because I asked him. Very cool about it.

[bucklind17]

Maybe I am in the minority, but when the show is over and done, a performer has put in his time. Everything else is completely optional and a perk to any fan's experience, not something they should expect. If Lindsey had to do press, soundcheck/rehearse, warm-up, then put on a full set, he had been working for quite a few hours at that point and probably just wanted to go home. Especially if it was his hometown show, maybe he was meeting up with some of his relatives afterwards and didn't want to keep THEM waiting. Yes, it's nice to generally be polite to people, especially the ones who support you and buy your albums, but once you do for one, it's hard not to do for all and it's very possible he was trying to avoid the situation as a whole. I can't fault the man, or any performer, for that.

[spacejunky]

you Paid $5 freaking dollars for your ticket! and your complaining, is there a reason why you have never posted before? i have flown from Australia for these concerts and i will not be pissed at Lindsey if i dont meet him or if his WIFE wants to go home and put her 2 children under the age of 11 to bed at a time that she feels suitable. On the ticket stub it states Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws tour" not Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws Tour and Meet and greet With fans and the disabled outside afterwards" Grow up man:distress:


nice work mate, couple of years back i flew to the states to see the black crowes on new years eve in new york...fantastic!!! i wish i had the bucks to travel over for lindsey!!!

oh and yeah $5 bucks for a ticket and ya complaining??? ha!! he isn't touring down under and if he did the tix would most likely be well over $100

[mylittledemon]

nice work mate, couple of years back i flew to the states to see the black crowes on new years eve in new york...fantastic!!! i wish i had the bucks to travel over for lindsey!!!

oh and yeah $5 bucks for a ticket and ya complaining??? ha!! he isn't touring down under and if he did the tix would most likely be well over $100

Yeah at least here in the States you can somewhat easily go see him. It's a shame he doesnt go "down under" more often for you Aussies. When I was in NZ, I met a lot of people in record/music shops who knew who Buckingham was (and like him!).

[tdfwiner]

:shocked:Reading this, it all seems kind of ironic considering how the lyrics in a lot of Lindsey's solo stuff are about how he thinks no one cares about him or his music. It'd seem that someone who feels that way would be incredibly gracious to the "few" people who do care.

As for Kristen, she is his wife but she really needs to keep her mouth shut if what has been said about her is true. As some of you have mentioned, Lindsey does owe his fans to a certain extent given that without us, he wouldn't be able to do what he does. Also, this is his job, and how many people go to work with their spouse? I'm sure he has a lot more free time to spend at home with his family than a father with a normal job. Let him have his what, 30-40 nights out of the year to go out and bring home the bacon and let the people who are dishing out their hard earned money know that he really appreciates them.

[mylittledemon]

As for Kristen, she is his wife but she really needs to keep her mouth shut if what has been said about her is true. As some of you have mentioned, Lindsey does owe his fans to a certain extent given that without us, he wouldn't be able to do what he does. Also, this is his job, and how many people go to work with their spouse? I'm sure he has a lot more free time to spend at home with his family than a father with a normal job. Let him have his what, 30-40 nights out of the year to go out and bring home the bacon and let the people who are dishing out their hard earned money know that he really appreciates them.

He gives what he "owes" during the show.

And it's easier said than done, but I would like to think I'd tell my wife not to be rude to fans...even the "nuttier" ones.

[hlforan]

I am just laughing my head off at these posts, especially the whiney ones...You all need to pull your heads in! Bravo! I love that term...:laugh:


I would say there were no more than 15 people including 2 in wheel chairs... I bring that up for what follows.

Remember Mrs. Buckingham... the mansion you are driving home to tonight was built with the hard earned $$$ that the fans have forked over for 30 years.

How far do you think your $5 is supposed to go for their mansion? I wonder how you know who paid for that house, maybe you noticed that she co-wrote songs with him, a photographer not exactly a gold digger! He looks happier than he has in his whole career-

you Paid $5 freaking dollars for your ticket! and your complaining, On the ticket stub it states Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws tour" not Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws Tour and Meet and greet With fans and the disabled outside afterwards":I do have to wonder the point of the wheelchair comment? If I rent a wheelchair do I get a personal meet? How about a walker? Fake leg? I am bipolar so maybe that would qualify? That's funny-

To me its all about the music, Lindseys' first language, my take is he is a shy, personal, artistic person and to expect anything more than the INCREDIBLE music he creates and shares is just petty and selfish. He gives a "Gift" and people want more...I watched him POUR himself into that performance and he just wants to chill out, man deserves it! I had a FABULOUS time at the Portland concert- patted his boot leg, just thanking him for years of music- got his pick at the end as well, I don't need his autograph (or even the pick for that matter) to impress others, what else are those material things for? Why not appreciate what life gives you, not what you don't think it does...Peace- you have everything you need...

[Nico]

While I definitely agree that no one should expect anything other than what they were there intended to see, I don't think it's fair to jump down this person's throat. He/she was just dismayed because he/she didn't get to have something signed, and that is a normal emotion. Many of us were fortunate to meet Lindsey and he was kind and generous, more so than necessary. But this person did not get to experience that so I feel he/she does have some right to be upset.

I don't think it's right to hold anything against Lindsey or his wife. It wasn't a good situation. And reevaluating it, if their children were with them I don't think Kristen did anything I myself wouldn't do.

But Daltry: just so you know, Lindsey is really great to fans for the most part. I can't begin to tell you how wonderful he was to everyone when I met him. This little old lady was there with her son, who was pushing her in a wheelchair, and Lindsey went right over to her and said something...can't remember what...but it was very touching and she seemed thrilled. And he even thanked everyone for waiting out in the cold. He's a really nice guy. Sorry about your experience.

[#1LiddyBuckFan]

Hey Dummy! "Screwed" was a play on words because of the new album titled "Gift Of Screws"

Had the show been cancelled I would have only been out $5.00 since Mr. Buckingham's tickets were not selling.

Also... I did not expect an autograph just hopeful that it might happen. The point of this thread was to explain what my experience was not to trash the artist.

The bottom line is... if you have two fans in wheelchairs then at least make an effort to greet them don't shuffle off to your car like Woody Allen just because your wife yells at you.

Lindsey's actions toward those two fans was not very nice. Don't say from stage how excited you are to be in your hometown and then treat 12 hometown fans like crap.

The name calling is ridiculous and needs to not happen again. You come here and have given your opinion and everyone else has a right to theirs. Did you expect to start this thread and not have people respond to it? Disagree with me or not on Lindsey behavior with his fans etc...I'm all for a healthy debate. As the moderator of the Buckingham board, you exploding over people's opinions, general statements and your name calling needs to stop. This is your warning.

I don't mind locking the thread.

[DaltreyPFD]

While I definitely agree that no one should expect anything other than what they were there intended to see, I don't think it's fair to jump down this person's throat. He/she was just dismayed because he/she didn't get to have something signed, and that is a normal emotion. Many of us were fortunate to meet Lindsey and he was kind and generous, more so than necessary. But this person did not get to experience that so I feel he/she does have some right to be upset.

I don't think it's right to hold anything against Lindsey or his wife. It wasn't a good situation. And reevaluating it, if their children were with them I don't think Kristen did anything I myself wouldn't do.

But Daltry: just so you know, Lindsey is really great to fans for the most part. I can't begin to tell you how wonderful he was to everyone when I met him. This little old lady was there with her son, who was pushing her in a wheelchair, and Lindsey went right over to her and said something...can't remember what...but it was very touching and she seemed thrilled. And he even thanked everyone for waiting out in the cold. He's a really nice guy. Sorry about your experience.


I totally agree and appreciate your post.

NOW... FOR THE THIRD TIME...

The reason for this post was not to bash Lindsey... it was only to share my experience and find out what other people have experienced. Lindsey's wife was... RUDE and Lindsey followed her like a lap dog. It was ridiculous behavior that I've never seen before and I have met many rock legends... Roger Daltrey, Ray Davies, Pete Townshend, James Taylor, Neil Diamond etc.

[SNLB]

These are my thoughts:

I agree that he doesn't owe anyone more than just the show. If he happens to be in the mood to sign, greet, take a picture with a fan, whatever, great. But, it also doesn't give his wife the right to be rude about it and from what I've read, if I had been in the crowd and heard her talk to Lindsey that way (like he's one of her kids), I'd have been embarrassed for him. Of course, I wasn't at the bus when it happened, so I didn't hear what was said or how it was said, but that's my personal take on it.

[DaltreyPFD]

you Paid $5 freaking dollars for your ticket! and your complaining, is there a reason why you have never posted before? i have flown from Australia for these concerts and i will not be pissed at Lindsey if i dont meet him or if his WIFE wants to go home and put her 2 children under the age of 11 to bed at a time that she feels suitable. On the ticket stub it states Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws tour" not Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws Tour and Meet and greet With fans and the disabled outside afterwards" Grow up man:distress:

I think you mean "you're" it's a contraction meaning you are.

Nice grammar.

I've never posted before because I had no reason to post. I have been visiting here and reading for quite some time.

[DaltreyPFD]

The name calling is ridiculous and needs to not happen again. You come here and have given your opinion and everyone else has a right to theirs. Did you expect to start this thread and not have people respond to it? Disagree with me or not on Lindsey behavior with his fans etc...I'm all for a healthy debate. As the moderator of the Buckingham board, you exploding over people's opinions, general statements and your name calling needs to stop. This is your warning.

I don't mind locking the thread.


Agree. Thank you I will continue to debate as heatedly as the response are but I will not name call. This should be fun.

[DaltreyPFD]

you Paid $5 freaking dollars for your ticket! and your complaining, is there a reason why you have never posted before? i have flown from Australia for these concerts and i will not be pissed at Lindsey if i dont meet him or if his WIFE wants to go home and put her 2 children under the age of 11 to bed at a time that she feels suitable. On the ticket stub it states Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws tour" not Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws Tour and Meet and greet With fans and the disabled outside afterwards" Grow up man:distress:

Those kids were already up past their bedtime at this point. If bedtime was a priority maybe Kristen and the kids should have left right after the show. Daddy would have been home shortly.


Also... what problem do you have with the disabled?? If Lindsey would have acknowledged those two people and ignored the rest of us that would have been fine by me. The fact is he wasn't even gracious enough to do that and those people were right at the front of the line!!!

[DaltreyPFD]

Then I guess by my account and a few others who added their good experience, it's not necessarily normal. We were just trying to add our two cents to help. Thanks. :wavey:


Read again... it's about 50/50 nice/not nice... that's a coin toss in my book.

[DaltreyPFD]

I do think that if you approached Lindsey and had something for him to sign he would sign it. He signed a photo from the stage for me in jacksonville in 2004 because I asked him. Very cool about it.

I had 2 LPs... Tusk and Go Insane... I asked... he kept movin'

Nice guy!

[DaltreyPFD]

Maybe I am in the minority, but when the show is over and done, a performer has put in his time. Everything else is completely optional and a perk to any fan's experience, not something they should expect. If Lindsey had to do press, soundcheck/rehearse, warm-up, then put on a full set, he had been working for quite a few hours at that point and probably just wanted to go home. Especially if it was his hometown show, maybe he was meeting up with some of his relatives afterwards and didn't want to keep THEM waiting. Yes, it's nice to generally be polite to people, especially the ones who support you and buy your albums, but once you do for one, it's hard not to do for all and it's very possible he was trying to avoid the situation as a whole. I can't fault the man, or any performer, for that.


Please for the love of god read my original post before responding. I think I explained the situation in enough detail so that everyone could understand what happened. A lot of the responses read as if people didn't read the original post.

[bucklind17]

Please for the love of god read my original post before responding. I think I explained the situation in enough detail so that everyone could understand what happened. A lot of the responses read as if people didn't read the original post.

I read the post. You said:
WTF!!! There were 15 of us!! No one was pushing everyone was polite. I have never witnessed anyone be so rude to their fans. It was truly disappointing given the fact that there was so few people waiting and to be honest... when will any of us have a chance to meet Lindsey again.

Sorry, but to me, that sounds like you were expecting more than the man's performance on stage. Hence, my comment. Thanks.

[iamnotafraid]

You're always taking a chance on getting your feelings hurt when waiting to meet or get an autograph from a star. I've had positive experiences with the few I've waited for, Lindsey being one of them. But we don't know how they're going to act for many different reasons. Their personality, real time constraints, traveling with family, or maybe being sick. What if they are in a rush to go to the bathroom? :laugh:

I do think if they have the time it would be nice if they said hello, and maybe sign a few autographs. I hope you don't let what happen make you less of a fan.

[DaltreyPFD]

I do have to wonder the point of the wheelchair comment? If I rent a wheelchair do I get a personal meet?




Sarcasm... I like it! But seriously if you really don't understand ignoring fans in wheelchairs then I can't help you.

[DaltreyPFD]

I read the post. You said:


Sorry, but to me, that sounds like you were expecting more than the man's performance on stage. Hence, my comment. Thanks.

If he didn't want to sign he could have at least been cordial instead of acting rude. He just dropped the pen at his wife's command and took off. In my book that's rude and a little odd.

[DaltreyPFD]

You're always taking a chance on getting your feelings hurt when waiting to meet or get an autograph from a star. I've had positive experiences with the few I've waited for, Lindsey being one of them. But we don't know how they're going to act for many different reasons. Their personality, real time constraints, traveling with family, or maybe being sick. What if they are in a rush to go to the bathroom? :laugh:

I do think if they have the time it would be nice if they said hello, and maybe sign a few autographs. I hope you don't let what happen make you less of a fan.

Not at all. If given the chance I will try again.

Listened to Mirage today... I love that CD.

[justcrazylove]

problem with people in a wheel chair? get your hand of it mate! don't sit there and play the politically correct card on a fleetwood mac forum! and your pathetic attempt at making me look like an idiot, grow up it's the internet for **** sake!

[Nico]

He just dropped the pen at his wife's command and took off. In my book that's rude and a little odd.

Ok, let me say this: it isn't too odd. I'm a very nice person, no shame at all in admitting that because I think it's true. But I have a tendency to be a bit, uh, demanding to put it the nicest way possible. And some people tend to think I control my man a little. But I look at it this way: he gets everything I can offer, plus unconditional, undivided love, so is it too much to ask that he do the *few* things I ask for exactly when I ask for them? And if I complain that he doesn't listen and he's rolling his eyes, I think it's fair that he also reap the consequences of that blatant disrespect. So he has learned it's best just to appease and stop, look, listen. In the end he'll reap the benefits of his respect. Plentiful. ;)

[DaltreyPFD]

hand of it mate! !


Huh?? Hand of it mate??? Where are you from? Oh that's right... "you're" from the land that could care less about disabled people.

[DaltreyPFD]

Ok, let me say this: it isn't too odd. I'm a very nice person, no shame at all in admitting that because I think it's true. But I have a tendency to be a bit, uh, demanding to put it the nicest way possible. And some people tend to think I control my man a little. But I look at it this way: he gets everything I can offer, plus unconditional, undivided love, so is it too much to ask that he do the *few* things I ask for exactly when I ask for them? And if I complain that he doesn't listen and he's rolling his eyes, I think it's fair that he also reap the consequences of that blatant disrespect. So he has learned it's best just to appease and stop, look, listen. In the end he'll reap the benefits of his respect. Plentiful. ;)


Nico rocks!

[michelej1]

If she did not and he paid someone else, no wonder she's a beeyotch :laugh:

Well, she was put to work this time around, but she didn't take the UTS pictures. Neal did.

Michele

[michelej1]

At least for the cosmopolitan stops on the tour, that is (I doubt Kristen does Grand Rapids, if you know what I mean).

You don't want to know.

It reminds me of what John said about Julie and Molly:

My girls come out on the road. They seem to enjoy New York, Chicago, Boston etc. For some reason they don't come out to places like Lincoln, Nebraska or Fargo, N. Dakota. Strange, Huh?

Michele

[Doctor]

It reminds me of what John said about Julie and Molly:Michele

Haha, I remember that quote. It hits home because I live less than 30 minutes from Lincoln!

[strandinthewind]

If he didn't want to sign he could have at least been cordial instead of acting rude. He just dropped the pen at his wife's command and took off. In my book that's rude and a little odd.

To me, it sounds like he wanted to sign you all's shiitte, but K put the nix on that, which is obeyed despite his willingness to sign. In other words, he was on his way over to do it and she told him no :shrug:

[strandinthewind]

. . . but she didn't take the UTS pictures. Neal did . . . .

That is a rather large insult to her :shrug:

[macmar71]

I think I have come to the conclusion that I would rather not meet anyone as there are those moments when the person you have loved, worshiped, enjoyed their muisc, whatever it maybe will not be what you thought they were and there may be a disappointment that will somehow ruin the whole ball of wax so to speak. I know lots of people have had awesome experiences and that is good but from my point of view, I would rather leave well enough alone as I am not good at handling something like this. I think I would be very disillusioned and not as enthusiastic of a fan. It takes something out of the magical feeling that surrounds someone famous. But keep in mind they are humans like you and me. Just my thoughts. :nod:



I USED to enjoy meeting musicians, but after seeing many treat their fans (Not specifically LB - Never bothered to seek an autograph from LB) as if they are a nuisance instead of realizing that the said FANS paid for their 'lavished lifestyles', I quit caring to meet 'em.

[#1LiddyBuckFan]

Huh?? Hand of it mate??? Where are you from? Oh that's right... "you're" from the land that could care less about disabled people.

Daltrey can you try to have an adult conversation?

Again, the insults are not necessary. Warning two. Care to go for three and lock the thread?

[sands of time]

Daltrey can you try to have an adult conversation?

Again, the insults are not necessary. Warning two. Care to go for three and lock the thread?


he can't even have an adult attitude about the relationship between artist and fan...don't just stop at the thread...use your ban powers!


Hey sands you can suck it!

anyone else gotten a similar PM?

[Madness Fades]

I think the guy who started this thread is just totally miffed about the way lindsey blanked him as a fan outside waiting to see him. I would feel the same if he did it to me.
I would hate to have travelled so far and spent so much and to get so close to a handshake just to be blanked. However as someone has said. You go to the show to see the show not to expect that lindsey will come meet you afterwards.
This a tricky one to say who is the closest to being in the right. I think this guy expected to get a lot more than he paid for but I also think lindsey was possibly somwhat rude in this case. He should have made his apologies and then at least left.
If it was me I know how much I would have meant for me to meet Lindsey. Once again as someone said "You build up this great personal image of your favourite person or idol. So when you meet them you already have these expectations almost as if they should know you too."
So maybe sometimes its best to keep the real world apart from the fantasy world because when they meet the results can be disappointing

[darla]

I hope when Fleetwood Mac tours, Kristine gets jealous of Stevie.
He is pussy whipped...Sorry that's how I feel. And I still think
Lindsay still loves Stevie...Kristin got knocked up and he had to marry
her....
Stevie has the power over Lindsay....
Can't wait until next year.....
:blob2:

Oh, he will. Sorry :(

[#1LiddyBuckFan]

Whipped? He is married. He's got kids. He's got a life outside of performing for us.

Kristen is really a big, bad, evil succubus?? :rolleyes: Please. Lindsey didn't have to marry Kristen. ;) I guess I just choose to believe that he really is happy but that's just me.

[The Catdancer]

I hope when Fleetwood Mac tours, Kristine gets jealous of Stevie.
He is pussy whipped...Sorry that's how I feel. And I still think
Lindsay still loves Stevie...Kristin got knocked up and he had to marry
her....
Stevie has the power over Lindsay....
Can't wait until next year.....
:blob2:

It's Lindsey and Kristen....

[TrueFaith77]

Why do so many people call Lindsey "Lindsay"? I don't get that. It's so common even among "fans"

[strandinthewind]

Whipped? He is married. He's got kids. He's got a life outside of performing for us.

Kristen is really a big, bad, evil succubus?? :rolleyes: Please. Lindsey didn't have to marry Kristen. ;) I guess I just choose to believe that he really is happy but that's just me.

Well, the people who know him indicated he was not happy about marrying her - not to mention she was preggers.

AS for the rest, it is speculation. But, to the point of this thread, she obviously has some issues with handling his fame and his willingness to give the fans waiting for him after the concert a little something extra.

[LINDSEY#1FAN]

Well, I am in hopes to meet Lindsey and get a pic at the Milwaukee show, but if I don't, oh well!

There are a lot of great stars out there that are VERY grateful to their fans, Kevin Costner and his band, :] , I saw them twice and even got a hug from him!:blob2: Another time he stroked my hair and said thanks for the support , then signed a pic for me!! ;) Damn ! What a sweetheart!!!! :thumbsup:

I am just REALLY looking forward to seeing Linds playing again, so if I get a pic, that would be awesome , but if I don't , I will be slightly dissappointed, but no big deal. However, if in that situation where there only a few and kind of get brushed off, I can see how it would look bad, especially disabled people being brushed off, that's just NOT cool !!

When I saw Kevin Costner, he made it a point to at least shake the wheelchair peoples hands, give a sig, just acknowledge them which I thought was so sweet!

[#1LiddyBuckFan]

Well, I am in hopes to meet Lindsey and get a pic at the Milwaukee show, but if I don't, oh well!

There are a lot of great stars out there that are VERY grateful to their fans, Kevin Costner and his band, :] , I saw them twice and even got a hug from him!:blob2: Another time he stroked my hair and said thanks for the support , then signed a pic for me!! ;) Damn ! What a sweetheart!!!! :thumbsup:

I am just REALLY looking forward to seeing Linds playing again, so if I get a pic, that would be awesome , but if I don't , I will be slightly dissappointed, but no big deal. However, if in that situation where there only a few and kind of get brushed off, I can see how it would look bad, especially disabled people being brushed off, that's just NOT cool !!

When I saw Kevin Costner, he made it a point to at least shake the wheelchair peoples hands, give a sig, just acknowledge them which I thought was so sweet!

Kevin seems like a great guy! One of my favs indeed. How cool that you got to meet him! :D

[Lee]

For me personally, I have never attempted to get an autograph of an artist after a concert. I just figure they are in a hurry & must have some place to get to. But that's just me. :shrug: The only time that I actually did get an autograph was when I joined a fan club & got an official meet & greet. Then I could get an autograph after one show which was a show very close to my home. And it just so happened that my husband & I were the only ones in the fan club attending this show. Even so, the artists appeared rushed, but it was nice to meet them anyway.

Maybe Kristen is just a little jealous of the attention that Lindsey receives (& gives back sometimes to his fans). :nod:

I know how this can leave a bad taste in your mouth so to speak. This same artist appeared at the bar in Baltimore. Security did not treat the fans very well as in everyone couldn't even take pictures of the band performing. I was not used to this as I always took pictures of them whenever they were & NEVER had a problem before. And this has cause me never to go back to this particular bar, & I have not seen this artist again though I think I've gotten over it a little more. But I still love their music regardless.

So I wouldn't hold it against Lindsey too much, especially since other people have said that he is usually very polite to his fans.

Lee :)

[LINDSEY#1FAN]

Kevin seems like a great guy! One of my favs indeed. How cool that you got to meet him! :D


It was like a dream come true!!!!!:blob2: btw - when I hugged him, his bod is JUST AS great in person as in the movies! lol :nod:;)


Here is the pic that he signed! I took this pic last year at his show, but it was signed this year !!

[dontlookdown]

This is totally ridiculous.
And I couldn't disagree with you more.
Kids come first. Period.
The level of narcissism in this country right now is beyond pathetic.

Lindsey Buckingham has kids. It was late. And although I would value my fans, I would value the health and sanity of my household the next day much more.
This is a guy that's been on the road A LOT the past few years.
So guess what? You don't come first.
Does it really have to be about you all the time?

Maybe we have George W. Bush to thank for this kind of self-involved attitude. I think we all need
to re-arrange our priorities.
Just my 2 cents.
As a busy father, I've grown very tired of people who think that their needs come before kids.

[carol7lynn]

"Lindsey Buckingham has kids. It was late. And although I would value my fans, I would value the health and sanity of my household the next day much more."

Get a grip. It wasn't that late, I was there too but did not stick around for an autograph though and besides they live in L.A. so the Mrs. could have easily had one of the roadies drive her home. And, as for Health and Sanity? Are you joking? :laugh: :laugh::lol: She said there were people in wheel chairs not respirators or straight jackets.:lol::lol:

And lastly, (in response to another post) as for being knocked up: The fact is he stuck around and had two more kids with her so she can't be that much of a skank; not that I like her but I'm just saying. I will say one thing, after three kids and a ten year marriage, during which time he had two hit albums, she'd get a bundle if they divorced. Maybe that's the glue that keeps them together. :confused:Who knows?

I'll tell you one thing, I haven't seen this much back-and-forth since Carol Ann Harris's book hit the shelves. WhooHoo!:eek:

Carol-Lynn

[strandinthewind]

. . . during which time he had two hit albums, she'd get a bundle if they divorced. Maybe that's the glue that keeps them together. :confused:Who knows . . . .

Which two albums were hits? The only financial success he has had since The Dance was the SYW tour.

But, I agree that K must have something he likes because he stuck around.

[CelticGypsy]

Hello fellow Fleetwood Mac fans. This is my first post and I want to preface it by saying I have been a HUGE Fleetwood Mac since 1977. I own everything from 1975 - the present. I have seen the band many times and Stevie solo. I have even seen the "Time" era incarnation of the band!! I had never seen LB live before until this past week and I was blown away!! His voice is perfect and he is one of the best guitar players I have ever seen. He is soooo underrated... hell he's not even rated! But, he is amazing. The show was a perfect mix of new songs (great), old solo songs and Fleetwood Mac songs. I absolutely give the show a 10 out of 10... so why was I "screwed"...

After the show ended I took my LP copies of "Go Insane" and "Tusk" outside and waited patiently by the tour bus for Lindsey to come out in hopes of getting an autograph. These LPs are for my personal collection. I have over 30 LPs signed, framed and displayed in my home. Everyone from Neil Diamond to Alice Cooper. It's a hobby and they look pretty cool too.

As I waited a few more fans gathered. I would say there were no more than 15 people including 2 in wheel chairs... I bring that up for what follows. After about 30 minutes LB appears. as he comes out to get in his car the fans approach... as LB begins signing (he only signed for 2 people) his wife begins to vocally oppose this impromptu autograph session... "No Lindsey! You can't do this tonight. We have to go. We have to put the kids to bed!" At that point Lindsey drops the pen and shuffles off to his car.

WTF!!! There were 15 of us!! No one was pushing everyone was polite. I have never witnessed anyone be so rude to their fans. It was truly disappointing given the fact that there was so few people waiting and to be honest... when will any of us have a chance to meet Lindsey again. This is not the way I would expect a musician of his caliber to behave especially to what he himself called a "hometown crowd." Remember Mrs. Buckingham... the mansion you are driving home to tonight was built with the hard earned $$$ that the fans have forked over for 30 years.

If anyone else has had a bad experience... or good for that matter. I would love to hear it.


I am sorry you had a bad experience. I agree with the poster who mentioned Mrs. B has a nice home and it surely wouldn't hurt for Lindsey to be nice to the few people that were out there waiting for autographs and pics. It only takes a few minutes for them. That goes with him being a "star" and his wife really needs to support that part of his business life.

Lindsey was nice in Portland but he seemed to be in a hurry to leave. There were not that many of us, maybe 12 people. The band seemed to fly into the bus so no autographs from them. Lindsey did stop to talk, sign some pictures, posters and tickets and take a few photos with the people that waited for him. He seemed pleasant but in a hurry and I didn't see his wife there.

[gldstwmn]

Hello fellow Fleetwood Mac fans. This is my first post and I want to preface it by saying I have been a HUGE Fleetwood Mac since 1977. I own everything from 1975 - the present. I have seen the band many times and Stevie solo. I have even seen the "Time" era incarnation of the band!! I had never seen LB live before until this past week and I was blown away!! His voice is perfect and he is one of the best guitar players I have ever seen. He is soooo underrated... hell he's not even rated! But, he is amazing. The show was a perfect mix of new songs (great), old solo songs and Fleetwood Mac songs. I absolutely give the show a 10 out of 10... so why was I "screwed"...

After the show ended I took my LP copies of "Go Insane" and "Tusk" outside and waited patiently by the tour bus for Lindsey to come out in hopes of getting an autograph. These LPs are for my personal collection. I have over 30 LPs signed, framed and displayed in my home. Everyone from Neil Diamond to Alice Cooper. It's a hobby and they look pretty cool too.

As I waited a few more fans gathered. I would say there were no more than 15 people including 2 in wheel chairs... I bring that up for what follows. After about 30 minutes LB appears. as he comes out to get in his car the fans approach... as LB begins signing (he only signed for 2 people) his wife begins to vocally oppose this impromptu autograph session... "No Lindsey! You can't do this tonight. We have to go. We have to put the kids to bed!" At that point Lindsey drops the pen and shuffles off to his car.

WTF!!! There were 15 of us!! No one was pushing everyone was polite. I have never witnessed anyone be so rude to their fans. It was truly disappointing given the fact that there was so few people waiting and to be honest... when will any of us have a chance to meet Lindsey again. This is not the way I would expect a musician of his caliber to behave especially to what he himself called a "hometown crowd." Remember Mrs. Buckingham... the mansion you are driving home to tonight was built with the hard earned $$$ that the fans have forked over for 30 years.

If anyone else has had a bad experience... or good for that matter. I would love to hear it.

Mrs. Buckingham has quite a reputation with some of the fans. This only reinforces it.

[michelej1]

That is a rather large insult to her :shrug:


Well, he may be in love, but he has sense enough to know Kristen is no Neal Preston :laugh:.

Michele

[gldstwmn]

What's she going to do when he does a full-blown FWM tour?
Carol-Lynn

Already happened.

[gldstwmn]

I met her once a long time ago at the Soundstage thingee and she was very, very nice to me.

Eh. She was okay. I got no read on her whatsoever from that encounter.

[gldstwmn]

Well, she was put to work this time around, but she didn't take the UTS pictures. Neal did.

Michele

Neal Preston?

[strandinthewind]

Well, he may be in love, but he has sense enough to know Kristen is no Neal Preston :laugh:.

Michele

Did I ever tell you about the time I was on the front row DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF LB for the first Nashville SYW concert and Neal Preston was taking pics right next to me :eek: He could not have been nicer or more polite.

[michelej1]

Did I ever tell you about the time I was on the front row DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF LB for the first Nashville SYW concert and Neal Preston was taking pics right next to me :eek: He could not have been nicer or more polite.

That's refreshing because photographers can be quite temperamental -- it's the artist in them. Sorry: I just looked and Neal actually did the People magazine stuff with Lee Lee. Frank Ockenfels did the Under the Skin photos.

Michele

[DaltreyPFD]

"Lindsey Buckingham has kids. It was late. And although I would value my fans, I would value the health and sanity of my household the next day much more."

Get a grip. It wasn't that late, I was there too but did not stick around for an autograph though and besides they live in L.A. so the Mrs. could have easily had one of the roadies drive her home. And, as for Health and Sanity? Are you joking? :laugh: :laugh::lol: She said there were people in wheel chairs not respirators or straight jackets.:lol::lol:

And lastly, (in response to another post) as for being knocked up: The fact is he stuck around and had two more kids with her so she can't be that much of a skank; not that I like her but I'm just saying. I will say one thing, after three kids and a ten year marriage, during which time he had two hit albums, she'd get a bundle if they divorced. Maybe that's the glue that keeps them together. :confused:Who knows?

I'll tell you one thing, I haven't seen this much back-and-forth since Carol Ann Harris's book hit the shelves. WhooHoo!:eek:

Carol-Lynn

Thank you... I am a man though... and a father!

[hlforan]

he can't even have an adult attitude about the relationship between artist and fan...don't just stop at the thread...use your ban powers!




anyone else gotten a similar PM?
he's abusive- there are a lot of people who like to hide behind a computer and spread their negativity definetly should be banned but then he'd just probably sign up under another name...I wish they had a "fan corner" one for those who love to hear positive fun experiences, a "critic corner" for the more debating fans, this guy would have to have a special corner of his own...

[mylittledemon]

I'm a very nice person, no shame at all in admitting that because I think it's true. But I have a tendency to be a bit, uh, demanding to put it the nicest way possible. And some people tend to think I control my man a little.

HAHAHA...Oh man. Funny stuff. You're probably NOT nice, then. Your poor, poor man. Oh well, different strokes for different folks!

[BTFLCHLD]

negative attitudes garner negative results

[DaltreyPFD]

he's abusive- there are a lot of people who like to hide behind a computer and spread their negativity definetly should be banned but then he'd just probably sign up under another name...I wish they had a "fan corner" one for those who love to hear positive fun experiences, a "critic corner" for the more debating fans, this guy would have to have a special corner of his own...

The other board members turned this post negative... not me. My initial post was to just share my disappointing experience and to find out if anyone else has had the same type of meeting.

I'm not hiding behind my computer anymore than you are. Here's my work # if you'd like to chat... (818) 475-6464

[LINDSEY#1FAN]

The other board members turned this post negative... not me. My initial post was to just share my disappointing experience and to find out if anyone else has had the same type of meeting.

I'm not hiding behind my computer anymore than you are. Here's my work # if you'd like to chat... (818) 475-6464


I understand what you were saying COMPLETELY !! :nod:

[mylittledemon]

But I look at it this way: he gets everything I can offer, plus unconditional, undivided love, so is it too much to ask that he do the *few* things I ask for exactly when I ask for them?

btw, I'm just razzin ya a bit. Not being serious on this end of the forum world. =)

[DaltreyPFD]

I understand what you were saying COMPLETELY !! :nod:


Thank you very much!

[#1LiddyBuckFan]

It was like a dream come true!!!!!:blob2: btw - when I hugged him, his bod is JUST AS great in person as in the movies! lol :nod:;)


Here is the pic that he signed! I took this pic last year at his show, but it was signed this year !!

very cool!! :thumbsup:

[LINDSEY#1FAN]

Thanks !!! It's one of my alltime favorite things that I own!!!!! :blob1::blob2:

Kevin Costner is just such a great person !!!!!!!!!!! Sexy, too !!! :thumbsup:

[LINDSEY#1FAN]

Thank you very much!

Your very welcome !!! Hey, since your into collecting autographs, etc. Get Kevin Costners ! He is THE BEST !!!! He does have a band also, Modern West - a new cd coming out October 19th! Damn - I sound like I work for him or something! :laugh:


You should really check them out !!!!

Here is their myspace site!!!!!

http://www.myspace.com/kevincostnerandmodernwest

[hlforan]

I have wasted enough of my time reading your posts, you were mean to many posters, its all right there, and why would you send such a nasty pm to another poster? Why would you twice be warned about your behaviour...hmmm..no wonder Lindsey beat feet when he saw you coming-Don't bother responding I am done with this thread and your narcissism

[carol7lynn]

Thank you... I am a man though... and a father!

Sooooo! What's your point? I hope it's not that your a man who procreated. :blob2::blob1::lol::blob2::blob1::lol:

Carol-Lynn:confused:

[DaltreyPFD]

Hear another persons version of what happened via a podcast!!


http://media.switchpod.com/users/mikeschmidt/ftp/40yobEp26.mp3

[TrueFaith77]

Your very welcome !!! Hey, since your into collecting autographs, etc. Get Kevin Costners ! He is THE BEST !!!! He does have a band also, Modern West - a new cd coming out October 19th! Damn - I sound like I work for him or something! :laugh:


You should really check them out !!!!

Here is their myspace site!!!!!

http://www.myspace.com/kevincostnerandmodernwest

I have a friend who does hair for celebrities for events and the such. Anyway, she said Kevin Costner was by far the worst person she's ever done. I love Kevin Costner by the way -- even in his flawed films, he's always trying to "do some good." I just mean it goes to show that it depends on circumstances. Celebrities are people too. . .

I have wasted enough of my time reading your posts, you were mean to many posters, its all right there, and why would you send such a nasty pm to another poster? Why would you twice be warned about your behaviour...hmmm..no wonder Lindsey beat feet when he saw you coming-Don't bother responding I am done with this thread and your narcissism

. . . I was about to say the same thing. I think it's unacceptable to send a PM like that. I'm sorry. I know sometimes I say things that probably get people upset but I'm glad that in my time here I've never had anyone be threatening or disrespcting to me. I hope everyone feels that I've responded in kind.

I only say this cuz I've seen to many web communities fall apart because of that kind of stuff.

[3rd World Man]

HAHAHA...Oh man. Funny stuff. You're probably NOT nice, then. Your poor, poor man. Oh well, different strokes for different folks!

Hey now! I've met that Nico girl, an all I can say is I don't think she has a mean bone in her body. I could see her being a little demanding maybe, but leeme tell you....I'd walk through fire to be her man:xoxo: Yeowwww!!

[Lisa1769]

Hear another persons version of what happened via a podcast!!


http://media.switchpod.com/users/mikeschmidt/ftp/40yobEp26.mp3

OMG!!:lol::lol: Who is this guy?? I seriously have been laughing my ass off! Thanks for that!!

[DaltreyPFD]

OMG!!:lol::lol: Who is this guy?? I seriously have been laughing my ass off! Thanks for that!!

A comedian from Los Angeles... Mike Schmidt

[DaltreyPFD]

Sooooo! What's your point? I hope it's not that your a man who procreated. :blob2::blob1::lol::blob2::blob1::lol:

Carol-Lynn:confused:
Someone referred to me as "she" so I am correcting them. AND... I am a father so I get it about getting the kids to bed etc... That's my point. You know if people would read carefully before they start typing these forums would be a much nicer place to be.

[Lauren]

I met Lindsey at the UTS tour after waiting outside for a pix/autograph. He did sign my CD but wouldn't do a pix with us (we had to stand in front of him in front of the "chain" that separated us from him) for a pix. He seemed a little annoyed too which surprised me to be honest. It's not what I expected. I may not even try this time for a pix although would love one of he and I! I just got the feeling he felt put out. He is totally different when he's with FM- at least with my experience. Although I never got backstage with FM, I was able to get him to sign my BN LP after the show and he was so sweet and gracious. Anyway, still looking forward to the show though but have no expectations of a meet!

[Lauren]

I think I have come to the conclusion that I would rather not meet anyone as there are those moments when the person you have loved, worshiped, enjoyed their muisc, whatever it maybe will not be what you thought they were and there may be a disappointment that will somehow ruin the whole ball of wax so to speak. I know lots of people have had awesome experiences and that is good but from my point of view, I would rather leave well enough alone as I am not good at handling something like this. I think I would be very disillusioned and not as enthusiastic of a fan. It takes something out of the magical feeling that surrounds someone famous. But keep in mind they are humans like you and me. Just my thoughts. :nod:


you are right on however there is really no way to know if it's a good experience or bad unless you try, and I guess I was and am willing to take that chance and I have two experiences from that (not both Lindsey). I felt after I did finally meet LB (in my post before) a little disappointed ya know? I mean he may have been tired, had limited time, etc. but I was like "WOW" I waited 45 min for him to come out, there were only about 6 of us out there and I just wanted my very own photo and a smile to go with it. He did sign my CD and wrote my name after I asked him (again seemed annoyed though...) but it was not the experience I had hoped for. On the flip side, my other fave artist, Marty Balin, I had a different experience with. When I saw him here in CO in 2003, I asked for a pix after his show and after we took one (my husband was taking the pix) he said "wait, let's get another" and he dipped me for the pix. He was just very gracious and sweet. Anyway, you never know of course how they will make your mark but I will say if it's a bad experience is does stick with you but if it's good, you remember it forever :-)

[BTFLCHLD]

well, having spent a considerable amount of time in conversation with Lindsey at the garden in diego, and I can tellyou that that experience, along with the others I have had, show me he is a man of great integrity, a musical genius, and extremely respectful and generous with fans that are equally respectful and generous of him. The woman behind the chain who earlier in the evening was screaming about what she was owed by him due to her purchase of GOS and attending his show, received no such love. And, I don't particularly care how Kirsten behaves, she loves him, he loves her, period. Whenever Kirsten has been at the shows that I have seen she has been sweet and friendly with fans and, yes, naturally mamabear with their children.

I hope, for those who wish to meet Lindsey, have their every wish come true. However, if greeting fans is not conducive to catching planes, scheduling demands, security, and tucking children into bed...remember they are human and do their best.

[LukeA]

It's worth noting that, in EVERY thread, you're an ass. :D

zing!!!!!!

[christierx]

I don't usually post here...guess you can say I am a lurker. But I felt the need to post my own encounters with Lindsey over the past several years. I went to 15 (or more - lost count) of the SYW shows, and Lindsey was very gracious in signing cds, ticket stubs, and even a woman's bandana (she was a cancer patient)...people actually moved out of the way for her to be wheeled to the front of the stage and he bent down and signed it for her. I had SEVERAL front row seats to these shows and after a while he was familiar with my face, as well as several others....and when he noticed us, he would either nod or wink and sometimes wave to us. The first time I met him was after a show in Atlanta - at the hotel - he had announced on the radio that morning which hotel the Mac was staying...so needless to say, it was very crowded that night. He talked to everyone there...spent more time with some than with others....we did not bombard him, just waited by the piano (in the lounge), he walked by us once and said he'd be right back, a few minutes later he did come back to us, but said he was in a hurry - one guy standing with us seemed to have EVERY lp from Mac to Lindsey solo...whereas my friend and I only had one item. He did sign our cds - can't remember if or how many of the other guy's stuff Lindsey signed...and he darted out the door. Kristen was there that night, but did not come to the lounge area, she went directly upstairs to their room. So I don't have any comments about her.

The next time I met him, was again in Atlanta at the hotel...he was very friendly, stood and talked to all of us (4 or 5), signed autographs, and even took pics with us. He was so sweet and even talked about Kristen would be at the show then they were on their way to Florida (the next stop on the SYW tour). We congratulated him on the birth of Stella and he seemed very appreciative.

At one of the concerts I went to, my friend and I made a sign that said "This is our 10th show" and when he read it, he smiled and mouthed back "REALLY, TEN???" We said "yes" and he mouthed "WOW!!!"

The only solo concert I have been to was the Atlanta UTS show. I did not try to meet him that night, but had front row with several other fans who had been to so many SYW shows, and when he came out and noticed us all on front row, he seemed thrilled. He did sign all of our cds/ticket stubs/etc from the stage, at the end of the show. So since I had had so many other good experiences with him, and had already had pics made with him, I didn't feel the need to try to get anything else.

I do know of other fans whom he actually sat down and spoke with (on a couch at s hotel)...and they talked about how sweet and relaxed he seemed to be in talking with them. Kristen was not there but when he left them he said he needed to go call her and tell the kids "goodnight." He may be a "rock and roll star" to us, but he is also a "family man." And I think its great for him to finally have it after all these years. And who knows, he may have not seen the kids in a while and made promises to them and Kristen that they would go straight home after the show and he tuck them in bed. So we should respect him for that.

Hope I don't get slammed here but I agree with others, if time permits Lindsey seems to be gracious with his fans, and he doesn't "have" to be, so we should be happy when he does, but not slam him when for whatever reasons he don't/can't.

[hlforan]

At one of the concerts I went to, my friend and I made a sign that said "This is our 10th show" and when he read it, he smiled and mouthed back "REALLY, TEN???" We said "yes" and he mouthed "WOW!!!"

I had had so many other good experiences with him, and had already had pics made with him, I didn't feel the need to try to get anything else.

He may be a "rock and roll star" to us, but he is also a "family man." And I think its great for him to finally have it after all these years.

Hope I don't get slammed here but I agree with others, if time permits Lindsey seems to be gracious with his fans, and he doesn't "have" to be, so we should be happy when he does, but not slam him when for whatever reasons he don't/can't.

It is cool to just have smile and acknowledge you in a concert!
That's awesome that you have met him pictures, autographs, it sounds like you deserve it! You must be very respectful and have good energy.
Finally, someone has mentioned that he is FINALLY a family man, he has put that off for SOOO many years, he's paid his dues for his career and fans. He could have just retired, which I would find devastating!
If the person (thankfully he is NOT a women" who started this thread came up to me I'd run as well. Lindsey, I am sure after years of meeting millions of fans knows bad energy when he feels it.
Maybe it was that "Catcher In the Rye" book he wanted Lindsey to sign that had him leaving so quickly...Respect is not a simple thing for everyone, but he and his family deserve it. There are fathers and dads, he should let Lindsey be a dad~

[LINDSEY#1FAN]

I have a friend who does hair for celebrities for events and the such. Anyway, she said Kevin Costner was by far the worst person she's ever done. I love Kevin Costner by the way -- even in his flawed films, he's always trying to "do some good." I just mean it goes to show that it depends on circumstances. Celebrities are people too

:shocked::( I know that EVERYBODY has bad days! I met the man twice and he was VERY nice to me, so idk. :shrug: We all have bad days, I have had my fair share of them lately! :nod:

[The Catdancer]

Maybe he was just pissed off that his tickets didn't sell and they basically had to give them away. I'd be pissed if it would've been my show and in my hometown.

I've met him several times and he was nothing but nice to me, always respectful and very gracious. I saw Kristen once and maybe she had a bad night but she was whining.

[goldustsongbird]

Whipped? He is married. He's got kids. He's got a life outside of performing for us.

Kristen is really a big, bad, evil succubus?? :rolleyes: Please. Lindsey didn't have to marry Kristen. ;) I guess I just choose to believe that he really is happy but that's just me.

Srsly.

I don't see the problem here. As far as I'm concerned, meeting someone after the show is a bonus - not a requirement. It can be disappointing when they just breeze past people, but it doesn't sound like he did that, did he? It wasn't that he didn't take ANY time with anyone. Just that he didn't make it to the OP.

If he had completely ignored his wife, I wonder how many people would be screaming that he's a bad husband/father, needs to put his priorities in order, etc.

[strandinthewind]

. . . If he had completely ignored his wife, I wonder how many people would be screaming that he's a bad husband/father, needs to put his priorities in order, etc.

No too many around here :laugh:

I think it is not that K said they had to leave. I think everyone is cool with that. I think it is the way she has fdor awhile now been perceived by many as being condescending and outright rude to the fans. So, in this case, I think it was more her tone, etc.

Again, the only time I ever had any interaction with her was brief but 100% pleasant.

[spacejunky]

No too many around here :laugh:

I think it is not that K said they had to leave. I think everyone is cool with that. I think it is the way she has fdor awhile now been perceived by many as being condescending and outright rude to the fans. So, in this case, I think it was more her tone, etc.

Again, the only time I ever had any interaction with her was brief but 100% pleasant.


lucky his wife isn't japanese....she gets a rough deal round here now...imagine.....

[strandinthewind]

lucky his wife isn't japanese....she gets a rough deal round here now...imagine.....

Well, it depends and there is a long, complicated history there. Here is some background info. Many people on the SYW tour reported that K was overtly rude without cause to them. Many people on the SYW tour reported that she was doing similar and other kinds of crazy and rude things. I know some of the people saying those things and they were not really people who were blind about LB and K. Granted, some were. Many people, however, rudely discounted the reports as coming from bitter females (mostly) who just hate K because LB and La Nicks should be together and K is in the way, etc. I think those people existed at the time, but and again, I know people whose complaints I agree with because they were not that way despite being lumped together. So, to discount all the opinions as just a bunch of crazy shipper fillies (CSF - a term coined by moi :cool: ) - is incorrect and unfair in my opinion. Moreover, many of the people lumping them together were so rude about it, it was ridiculous. So, people tend to be nervous and biting on this subject.

Also, there was a bunch of stuff that people, including me, saw with their own two eyes that never really got reported on a public message board. The reason for this is - if you did, as many did in the beginning, people would have the audacity to tell you you did not see what you saw. It essentially was censorship in that the naysayers wanted the CSF never to discuss the topic and gave the CSF utter hell and personal insults if the topic was discussed in any manner. The CSF were called stupid, deluded, and irrational liars who had no life. The CSF were called other names, insulted, etc. - when all they were doing was having a discussion on a topic they found interesting.

If you go to www.buckinghamnicks.net (kudos to the lovely and talented nancy :cool: ) and do a little research on the chatboard, you'll get an eyeful :laugh:

Now, almost all the CSF are gone. So, the point is relatively moot, with the exception of people who still love to bag on that faction of fans, which I think is silly.

Anyhoodle - that is just come background on this issue and why I think people act like they do on this topic.

[goldustsongbird]

No too many around here :laugh:


Let me rephrase: sane people... :D